What do you do when some family and friends say "all you say / think are negative about the world"
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I get this a lot. "You are so negative about everything, your outlook, worldview, nobody will want to be friends with you"
Sometimes I get "all the people you praise, most people view negatively, and the people you praise like Trump most people frown upon"
I stand my ground insisting I tell the truth at any cost, but in some ways, it hurts because it does feel isolating and alone. I get that being alone is one of the costs of telling the truth in this world. How do ya'll handle this?
I tell them it's only from their perspective that I'm negative or dooming, because in fact I am speaking hope and of a glorious future. I'm enjoying the show these days and not worried any longer about being placed in a dissident camp. I suggest they too could see the amazing future if they can break the chains
I Tell them not to be so naïve because its the Truth and if they took the time to look they would see...and Facts don't care about their feelings....
Yup, it is 100% acknowledging the bad and the ugly and working on cleaning that junk controlling us out of the world for a way better future for all. Many want to stick head in sand and keep pretending they saw notin, heard notin and don't like to be reminded of it, would rather ignore it until they can no longer do so. I got a "You are so negative" once and I laughed and said, na, just doing my part to make sure it all comes to the light for everyone to even know that it is there in the first place, quietly chipping at everyone's life and making the world a worse place to be alive in. Same as they keep screeching how MAGA people are hateful for those who do not personally know someone who follow MAGA as a way to do the cleaning up. I am a very positive person in general, always happy to help out, even the little things like an elderly lady having hard time putting her groceries onto the belt or trying to reach across it to get the lil divider, round up step ladder to climb into neighbor's window to let her in when she locked herself out. Everyday things, someone around me struggling, no problem dropping what am doing to give a quick hand.
Came here to say this.
Yeah same.. i got this from my closest members of the family and it hurts lots but I got over it. I can't change anyone and I don't want to keep arguing w/ one another at home.
God gives us free will. I've tried to warn/tell everyone I know and in my conscience, I've at least tried.. If they don't listen, it's on them whatever life brings. I'll keep praying for them but no expectations. I've surrendered all to God. That's my resolve
Another response that works "I understand that thinking about all the things you have loved all your lives in a different light can be painful ... personally I would rather know the truth than live in false comfort, but I completely respect your choice not to"
I've yet to meet anyone who regrets having taken off their blinders.
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This is me exactly- and I made a resolve to not mention it at all- the cabal- etc. but will say something if it’s brought up. I’ve decided to kill them with kindness & love- no more arguing or anger involved. I now try to keep my focus on God & just try to be an example & they are all witnesses to that.
Don't share too much to fast.
Wait for an opportune moment.
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Honestly I just avoid any discussion about reality with brainwashed friends and family. They know there's alot of corruption out there but they still watch the news and believe them. They believe journalism can't be hijacked or something. Even now after the lab conspiracy theory has been proven right, the laptop from hell has been proven right, the rigged elections has been proven right... and more. I mean at this point why I have to waste my time to change other people opinions. They are completely brainwashed and in a state of hypnosis.
I think we lead by example. I refused the vax, while 90% of my family willingly gave their arm, and more than once. I post daily on social media different memes and ideas that they’ll see about the reality we live in. I sneak truth into innocent conversations. Through the years, as their reality continues to show them what’s true, they begin to listen to me more. Two days ago, my daughter, a nurse, finally said she wasn’t getting any more vaccines. That’s victory right there. It was slow and hard won, but it’s victory. Lead by example. Be strong in your convictions. Offer a few morsels here and there when you can. Basically, ride a tall horse through your family without saying a word. Live by your convictions. Some will come around.
first you should consider the possibility that you may be dooming. the best is yet to come.
you might want to remind them that relying on government mandated shots and useless masks is the fear-based viewpoint.
those people me encourage me to focus on the solution rather than the problem.
people may think its psychotic to approach these dark issues lightheartedly. its not, but you have to be the judge of how people will respond.
convincing people to be afraid is usually not a winning strategy in the long run.
you have to be a shining example of an anti-doomer.
that doesn't mean shying away from the issues...
but also realize that not every person needs to deal with every issue.
One person's dooming is another person's pointing out uncomfortable truths that people, even the awake, don't want to hear.
not really. the truth is good. you can be aware of what is going on and still look forward to the future. and some people are in a position where they will be most effective by not even knowing what we know.
Sounds like it is affecting your personal attitude. Not everyone wants to hear about it. Try to rouse those who are stirring rather than those still fast asleep. It is not your assignment to try to change the views of everyone.
My brother-in-law went through what it sounds like you are going through. He alienated himself from all of his friends. In the end, it was helpful to no one. Everyone does not have to see what you see. Likely you have one person who is on, at least, a similar wavelength. Talk to them when you need to come to terms with, or just want to discuss what you know and learn.
Remember it is their goal to sow division. The left is the side that requires you to think as they do. Learn when to express you views and when to bite your tongue. The latter is never easy, I know. When it comes to the vaccine, express your views and take solice in that. It is not easy to watch friends and family die, but once you have said your peace, you must make peace. Everyone else is entitled to their own views and choices. Learn what seeds planted may grow with time and leave it at that. It is not weakness to remain silent at times, it is strength.
But wouldn't it bother you, that the side of evil and lies keep coming out on top, coming out of the mouths of the people you care about, at least.
What would we be, if we allow the evil and lies to continue, and not intervene? Could we live guilt-free like that?
If we just let the propaganda sink into them and completely consume them, wouldn't the cabal have already won?
Absolutely it bothers me. I have been to four funerals in the last year. Only one if them did I get to plead with a dear friend, begging them to not get vaccinated. Fell on deaf ears. It will always bother me, but I spoke up, gently and often. I can live with that because I have to. I often wonder if I could have gotten through more if she hadn't heard my crazy stories about the rest of it all. If I had just picked that one battle, maybe it would have carried more weight.
Speaking up is important, but it doesn't take a trained psychologist to see when people close up and are being pushed away. At that point the only thing you gain is the satisfaction of speaking your mind. Keep your friends close. Where you can answer questions as they arise. Why push them away? Your influence is lost forever.
But again, in my case, I wasn't the one pushing people away or rejecting them for political opinions or other views. It is the opposite. It's them rejecting me because of MY opinions and beliefs.
That's what's super unfair. And I haven't told a single lie to them.
It's a matter if persistence. You seem to have trouble seeing it, but some people don't want to hear it. They will see. It's not worth pushing away friends and family. Ideally you will be there when they are forced to see to help them along with the process. You and I both know that it is not an easy thing to digest. It will be even less so when they are force fed the reality by the world around them. Love is the only thing real, don't regret pushing it out of your life. Your friends don't have to see through your eyes to be good friends.
We are not alone. Occasionally I run into the awoken. Feels good.
I get avoided for similar behaviors.
'When did you become so political' is one that stabs me in the leg. Haven't really. I just pay attention.
I have a habit of not wanting to be around the mindless. I try not to be in full retreat but I've tired of the sleepy folks. Slow boilers, they are.
Eagerly waiting to play my part and point to the right direction when these idiots finally open their eyes. Until then I just work hard at being friendly and giving a shit.
We started praying as a family to find other like-minded people for affirmation. Well, sunuvagun, wouldn't you know it, they've started coming out of the woodwork. It's amazing how our weekends suddenly filled up with new friends.
i get the same thing about politics. i've been told that's all i talk about. i was shocked, because i've never been a political person. then i said, apparently the reason i talk about politics a lot is because it's through politics that they are destroying our country.
I've learned to pick my battles.
Like drug addiction, you aren't going to convince the addict to stop taking drugs by going on about the downside of drugs.
All you can do is live your life with integrity and be an example of Good. This draws people to you to ask advice on other topics. Once they respect you in that way, you can make side remarks now and again. Eventually, they will want more information from you on the subject.
But if you go in guns blazing, the "any costs" you mention will be that they never listen to you again. You may already be at that point with them. I always told my son that you have to put 100 hrs of good work to overcome 15 secs of bad... and with some people that won't even work.
Stop trying to control the situation. Instead live the life of a patriot - humble, strong, right hearted, and patient.
Welcome to our world. Friends seem to drift away and even family members come by and call less often. BUT if the watchman did not sound the alarm, the blood of the people would be on his hands, If the watchman sounds the alarm and the people don't listen, their blood is on their hands. Lonely world we have chosen!
I will say this, it's pretty freakin' scary being fearless...
"Scary" comes with COURAGE
Fearlessness comes with habitual courageousness.
Always come across as positive but when the time is right get them to question. It took a friend of mine 7 years to come around to 911 but he still remembered me being the one to plant the seed and saying I was right.
Some may never admit it.
But always stay positive. In the end even if we ended up being completely wrong no one can take away your freedom of religion and your independence. What are they going to do? Bankrupt you? Already happening to many. Kill you? Well death is better than their system. So that sounds like doom but really is the ultimate positive mindset. It’s kind of like you have nothing to fear but fear itself.
I sympathise, only one member of my blood family has been open to talking about any of what's going on. However, the more I contest the lies that they believe with truth - the more I sense they retreat from discussing anything. Currently, I think we can talk about cats and weather with any back and forth. I am seeing in real time, the proof that Yuri Bezmenov was so right about the effect of the 'demoralisation' on the useful idiots. He said something like - you can shower them with proof of how the things they are told are lies, but they will deny the things their eyes and ears show them.
It is bemusing to me that so many have been brain-washed to such an extent that they can quite comfortably deny observable reality.
I think history will not view humanity well for how most of the population capitulated to slavery over the past 20 years.
I think the whole "4-6% will be lost forever" Q post is completely wrong - I think only 4-6% will NOT be lost forever.
now, i just plant seeds and stop. i used to go all in with explanations and it would end up in fights. i'm tired of fighting. you know what it's like to fight with a liberal, it's all feelings with them and when you bring up FACTS they start yelling and screaming, i can't take it any more.
so take my seed and plant it or let it blow away in the wind. i did my part, they need to do theirs.
I tried that with a group of coworkers as well (plant seeds of truth) - few of them went on to "get boosters" for themselves and their kids. However, one of them shared with the group that they were looking for child daycare facilities and it's getting difficult to find a spot, especially those that don't require the clot shot.
At least the latter made me ecstatic - this person originally took the shot.
People who are programmed will always judge the cover of a book and it's contents will be left by the wayside.
The reason is simple: it challenges their worldview.
One of the hookpoints is to recognize were these people were 10 years ago. Where they, for instance, in the belief that government would never do a certain thing, like, locking everybody in their house, or mandate a transfection that turn anyone into a spike producer. Or even, the FBI would never meddle in: whatever their theme.
The trick is to take people one step further. Not 20 steps. The device I use is question. Depending on the person, I use a closed line of questions (3) before throwing in the kicker. And before I do, I usually say something like: let's look at this together.
It is simply a.matter of overcoming resistance. This method is something different than dropping links and memes. It is quite time.consuming.
A judgement about what I have to show then only possible in relation to knowledge based on proof.
I am also conscious about the fact, that I do not have to convert them. Only to find the hook and hang something on that hook. The burden what to do with it, is theirs.
Q wrote: the choice to know has always been yours.
Aan honest person, who is cpable of looking at himself/herself in the.mirror, to reflect on themselves, will change his ways. Those not there yet, will face a tougher situation. That is simply the way nature works.
Trump once called truth a force of nature. And yes, truth has a habit of being found in every nook and cranny. That is the beauty of nature. It is what it is.
Realism, the habit of recognizing what is real, or in accordance with nature. Is simply that. It is not judgemental, it just points out what is.
The beauty of it could be described as follows: it makes clear the emotional make-up of everyone confronted with truth.
So, I often ask: what is below this? What fear are you now becoming aware of?
This is the point where there is a shut down, or an opening up. Either way, it is their choice. I have given them an easier way out.
Try to be kind. Find other interesting things to talk about. If someone starts to talk anything remotely political I tell them you really don't want me to start talking about politics because you probably won't like what I have to say. If they persist, I will, unfiltered.
Remember that Solomon wrote that wisdom increases sorrows.
Talk to God. Live your life and get your affairs in order. You have enough to things in your life to tend to. You don't need to drag people with you. Either Q has this, or God has different plans. I find that either outcome doesn't much matter, the actions in my own life seem to converge toward an inevitable harvest.
Your not alone, I just stopped talking, now a few will ask questions- my response is usually just repeating exactly what they have told me. "I don't KNOW anything" followed by "I can't make it make sense for you, you need to do that yourself."
I'll agree with their findings & thoughts on topics if they merit it, but that's it.
Because there is a difference between truth and value.
If I told you 2 + 2 = 4. Is that not true?
It is true, but it has little value. So it’s useless information.
The Cabal knows this.
They know that the truth movement loves to call out the truth.
What they also know is that the truth movement doesn’t understand that people care about value.
If you tell the truth and it destroys the mindset of others. You are pushing out negativity that is of low value to the brain.
So the average person isn’t going to care what you say. They will move away from you because what you are saying destroys their mind.
How you package and deliver information to people matters more than the actual message.
I tell them they cant keep their head in the sand and run from it like its all going to go away just because they dont want to deal with it. It is fact, it will remain as such. If talking about it is being megative they have already admitted its an issue. Why are they more willing to burn bridges than work on correcting the issue.
Great line
"I would rather be negative and right than naive and wrong"
Ask them: So who was smarter during the holocaust? The Jewish people that left early or the ones that stayed in Germany till the end? Who predicted what was coming correctly? The people who could see the evil coming or the ones with their heads in the sand?
Loving people and caring for them opens opportunities to have conversations about hard topics. As the quote implies, opportunities for those conversations are secondary to loving and caring for people. We know that shouting at people in the streets is not persuasive, and continually or aggressively pushing a topic can make people unreceptive.
Dunno anon, I lost most of my friends when I told them I liked Trump.
I hate toxic positivity. Another narcissistic trait of the left. I’d ask them why it wasn’t negativity when they were all doom and gloom about Trump
They are outwardly over the top positive, but deep down they are depressed.
Whereas people like us might be outwardly perceived as being negative, but inside we know NCSWIC and God’s got this.
“Truth isn’t always good news. Truth takes bravery. It takes discernment and willingness. But the only way to ensure a better world for future generations is to ride to the truth like Paul Revere and don’t stop until the coast is clear.”
Avoiding negativity is a blanket for people to hide in. They use it as a shield to keep themselves comfortable and tell themselves they have control.
Hiding isn't an answer, though. It just delays.
FACTS. IF the Truth seems 'negative' to them, They are the lost.
Maybe their insistence on ignoring negative things is what is causing more negative things to happen.
You got a Friend in Jesus.
People are terrible judges of character & what is ethically / morally right. Speak out (respectfully). It is better to be hated for doing the right thing than being loved for doing the wrong thing. That being said, just tone it down for the sake of your friends and family. They're telling you, so don't ignore them. Someone who is constantly negative with nothing positive to say should be quiet often. They bring down the mood & morale. Try to sandwich your red pills in-between more mundane conversation topics. You could also try adding a positive spin at the end like: but I have faith these wrongs will be made right / not all is lost / there's still good ppl out there.
There's a lot of bad things coming to light so the more you follow events, the more you reflect what is happening. The opposite is what your friends and family are exhibiting. Remember the saying "ignorance is bliss". and that's what they are.
But conversely, have faith in God and in the white hats working with Trump. I'm watching the Dems and RINOS panic with each new revelation about vote fraud, pedos getting exposed, Biden, Inc corruption being uncovered. It's drip, drip drip everyday. Soon, a flood of info will start that the MSM and social media won't be able to stop. As it does, watch your family and friends. See if any of it starts to enter their consiousness and their conversations.
Remember this is a big show. Don't get wrapped up in the negatives. A big change is coming so get more popcorn and be entertained.
"Hey look, if you think learning about truth makes you feel negative, and you would rather live in the comfort of not knowing, I will be happy to not bring up any of this stuff to you".
Red pill is always a choice, until at the precipice where it becomes a suppository.
Focus on the silver lining - for example tell them even if the COVID vax kills people at least it’s only the people too dumb to realize what’s really going on who are taking it
Be the lighthouse, many will attack you for it, but they are corrupted, continue to shine bright. The truth is a Lion! When they see you are strong in your resolve, they will think twice and maybe even awaken some.
Just listened to audiobook of “Live Not by Lies” by Rod Dreher. The book gives stories and advice of Christian dissenters who survived Soviet totalitarianism. Also good advice for all dissenters, Christian or not. Gave me a lot to think about.
The central message is to get firm in your beliefs and principles and try to avoid saying or doing things you don’t believe for the sake of expediency. Sounds like you are doing that. Avoiding repetition of lies will preserve you from becoming corrupted and brainwashed. Also, form connections with others who are like minded, as we are doing here in GAW - but should also seek to do in our local communities.
I invite them to imagine a world where Americans from all races and backgrounds are united. Where we come together to stop the sexual exploitation of children and women. Really take care of the homeless , military veterans, and senior citizens. And, we work together to build a country we can all be proud to call home. That’s what MAGA and President Trump are about.