3 things though... his pharma billions and pre-covid posturing (as if he knew it was coming), his earlier pro-lockdown and vax stances, and his fresh off the farm Obama 2.0 perfectly crafted persona, all lead me to think he was in fact working for the black hats, now he is leaving before people dig too deep imo.
even if he endorses Trump he's gonna be on my shit-list, prettttty much indefinitely.... sorry
People are allowed to change their stances as they get more information. Remember both Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump started out as democrats. I don't think someone controlled by the cabal would be calling out J6 the way he is doing.
But so was JFK. The Democrat Party of 2024 is not the Democrat party of 1960.
I don't think someone controlled by the cabal would be calling out J6 the way he is doing.
Someone controlled by the Cabal and given the mission of a manchurian candidate to infiltrate Maga or undermine Trump would exactly call out J6 the way he is doing. IMO.
That's what struck me when I watched his 'resignation' speech. Wow. So 'polished' like Obama. And so fake.
But maybe, just maybe, he's not as scummy as Obama. Maybe he's just opportunistic. But I doubt it.
Wheat and chaff. Now is the time when they are being separated. The fact that Vivek ran against Trump, and attempted to co-opt the Trump base by talking like Trump, that doesn't give Swamy much credit.
The only problem I have with this line of reasoning is it implies a level of being in touch with the populace that [whatever you want to call the bad guys here] just haven't had up until vivek enter the race... One of the reasons that, even though I didn't plan on voting for him, I thought he was useful to the movement, was he moved the overton window aggressively in the direction of maga, in a way that doesn't really align with the way the [bad guys here] always seemed to want to pull things back, just a little bit.
Even with Desantis, whom I think got set up for failure to kneecap trump, there's still that career politician stink that I just can get out of my nose...
I could be wrong, of course, but it's a big plothole that needs to be filled...
it implies a level of being in touch with the populace that [they] just haven't had up until....
Not necessarily. It can also be explained by desperation. If they have been squeezed into a corner, if the only possible potential they have to edge out DJT is to field someone like DJT but who isn't, because his ideas and thinking and message is so darned popular that nothing else gets traction.
Step by step, over the past 3 years, their room for maneuver in terms of political messaging has been decimated.
I agree that he may have been useful. And that is how game theory works. If you have the upper hand in a game of chess, for example, you can narrow the opponents choices to such an extent that the moves he makes actually help you and undermine his own objectives.
In chess, of course, once the opponent realizes that, he normally resigns.
Is this the current state of the game? Whatever the [bad guys] Deep State / Cabal does, they end up helping Trump and the movement towards freedom.... Raid him? His popularity goes up. Prosecute him? More people in the middle side with him. More and more lawsuits? His wins caucuses without even showing up. Run pseudo-candidates against him? His qualities shine out even more.
#Q3673
How many coincidences before mathematically impossible?
It was over before it began.
nah, that's fair. Game theory's one of the bigger game-related channels, and it was weird when you watch his "retirement" video. There's been a lot of speculation about why, and it could be nothing, but it just seems...off somehow. =/
guy hasn't been the largest critic of youtube, but he's definitely pushed back a little bit here and there, and between the timing and the way he acts like someone twisted his arm, you can't help but wonder...
Of course he did. Do you think he would ever not? His aim and goal has always been to ride on Trump's coattails and gain some glow off of him. But Trump sees through him very clearly.
Agreed. I didn’t expect this, because the last couple weeks he was looking more and more like a plant to steal votes from Trump. But this move definitely shifts my view back to “unknown” for him, which is better than it was earlier today.
He made some slimy moves pre-caucus, but maybe he is legit, and is evolving from his shady past?
I know I'm somehow not supposed to like Vivek, but at the very least he knows the right things to say. The way he owned the rest of the debaters and was uninvited from further appearances is pretty badass. I don't know much about his past, but he went into this with both middle fingers blazing and for that I appreciated the show. Despite what GEOTUS said, I think he is a bit MAGA. I never take Trump at face value. Look at the way he treated Bannon, yet Bannon and he still get along fine. "Enjoy the show."
The way he owned the rest of the debaters and was uninvited from further appearances is pretty badass.
Debates were a show. Nothing more nothing less. Vivek is posturing for a 2028 run and will represent a return to the bush republican years. He talks tough when the spotlight is on but his history and views on Trump raise huge red flags. Real patriot wouldnt have even stepped into the race if Trump was running
But you can also look at it as Vivek was Trump’s stand-in at the debates, and to be fair, did a better job than Trump could have done.
Total nonsense. Trump diddnt need a "stand-in" nor could Vivek could have done a better job. Vivek talks smart but he gives me controlled opposition vibes the way he tries to appeal to voters. He would not have run against Trump if he wasnt controlled op. Im calling it now if he gets elected in 2028 hes going to start reversing progress under the guise of bipartisan compromise. There is nothing to compromise on. You dont give shit leftists an inch
I really like the suggestion of placing him as press secretary.
He gets massive exposure to the American people while delivering deathblows to corporate reporters, helping Trump and positioning himself for a successful 2028 bid.
A long way out, certainly, and we still have the problem of election fraud which I haven’t seen any significant improvement to since 2020.
I’m not sure he was taking a lot of votes from Trump. It’s pretty clear that Ron/Vivek/Nimrata are splitting the non-Trump vote and they’re going narrow it down to one contender pretty soon here.
And it still won’t work. Vivek + Trump puts him at a 20 point lead over Haley + DeSantis.
Iowa caucus isn’t everything, but that was definitely everything for DeSantis. He put all of his eggs in the Iowa basket. If he drops, I think most of his supporters would vote Haley just to spite Trump, and go with RFK in the general.
But even still, Trump has it in the bag, as long as he doesn’t do something insane like offer Haley the VP spot.
The real fight will be at the polls during the general election, and fighting like never before against the fraud.
I think that these people are narcissist at heart. They love themselves so much they just can't imagine, can't comprehend that every one will not love them too. They see themselves as so smart, appealing, that everything the say is cleaver that it blinds them to the image the average voter see in them.
Ole Neocon Nikki speaking here as if she won the night. She assesses that with 12 candidates in race she was at two percent, but look at where we are now. (Third place out of four) Does she even know that with just 4 candidates in the race, being at 19%, especially when your opponent has 55+% is not any better.
So I decided to actually listen to his speech as presented by NBC in the linked article, and boy oh boy.
In early 2016, when I decided to listen to a few Trump speeches, I was immediately blown away by the authenticity and directness that Trump exuded, unlike ANY politician I have ever heard. In fact, unlike ALL the politicians, he struck me as being completely the real deal. The vibe was unmistakeable.
Listen to Vivek Swampy directly is a similar experience, except inverted. Instantly, Swampy seems so utterly polished, contrived, someone acting a role, by which I mean, almost all politicians play the role of [politician's image].
Tuning in to his facial expressions, eye movements, etc, I can see now why so many based Pedes have been likening him to Obama.
Same polished turd. It may be polished, but it's a turd. (Pardon my French.)
What a total charlatan. And he's right out there, his target audience being normies who think Trump has some good points, but who are still plugged in and feeding off of the mainstream narrative machine. Those who failed to recognize the TRUE nature of Donald Trump as a man, as a President, as a patriot, and who still believe the fake political behavior still advocated by the swamp creatures from left, right and center.
"We had to recognize there is no way for me to become president absent [things we don't want to see happen] in this country...."
Translation: "There's no way for me to become President unless the Cabal assassinates Donald Trump, but then, obviously I am the one who should be President!!!!"
<insert expression with (feigned) deep and serious concern>
Having had training in Hypnosis and NLP techniques, I find Swampy's methods here are so transparent. What he is doing is embedding a proposition, not out in the open, but slipping it under the rug.
ALL of his talking points are perfectly crafted for his maga and conservative audience.
"We have done everything in our part.... to make.... everyone of us in this room has done our part...."
Clearly rehearsed, then fluffed, muddling the expressions "done everything in our power..." and saying part instead, and then its like, oops, cannot focus on [we] (aka my backers, masters, etc) - have to make it about the common folsk, the people here, so he switches mid-sentence to "everyone of us in this room has done our part".
"to save this country..."
They all did their part to save the country? So, its over? They have no more part to do? Them campaigning for Swampy is equivalent to 'doing our part to save this country'???
Jeepers.
If you train in NLP & hypnosis, etc, you automatically watch people's eye movements, as they are most often indicators of which part of the brain/mind people are accessing when they speak, etc.
Watch Swampy's eye movements and how they go with his facial expressions.
The blinking when he says "we're a campaign founded on the truth" indicates he's lying, and he know's he is lying. The blinking is a mechanism to insert energy into his facial in order to hide and subvert any expression of the lying, which given free rein will naturally show.
"And I'm also making the decision..."
At key moments in his statements, he looks away, down, anywhere but directly at the people watching him. Clear giveaway. He's not really communicating with his audience openly and heart to heart. (Like Trump would, for example) He's telling a story, presenting an image that is other than who or what he really is.
"There are TWO America first candidates in this campaign...."
In other words, associating himself with Trump. Look! I'm with Trump. He and me are the two real America first candidates.
Blatant example of attempting to win points by association. What does DJT think? "Swampy is not Maga"
This is what corrupt politicians do. They spin, they create an image essentially to swindle voters in to supporting them.
"and now he will have my full endorsements for the Presidency...."
As if Trump needs Swampy's endorsement???? Give me a break.
A core part of the Q operation was dropping drops that inspired or sometimes directed anons to question, ask, poke around, and to essentially break free from the group think matrix.
This requires not only waking up to external information, but also an internal awakening, where we discover and confront our own prejudices, preconceptions, thinking methods and see how and where we have internalized the internal matrix. Combining these brings discernment towards truth, something you cannot develop simply with external information alone.
If someone cannot see the swamp in Vivek Swampy, I encourage them to dig a little deeper or a lot deeper.
If your eyes are open, it's so bleedingly obvious who this man is.
Slick-talking con man who comes from a society with a strong in-group preference, another fake Republican.
He and Bennie Shapiro are the same person. They both would use the wealth and resources of this nation to benefit their own race at the expense of every American citizen.
Don't trust used-car salesman no matter how good they make you feel, the sale is all that matters to them.
Yeah. It is interesting. If he took money from Schwab and his business magically increases without any output. It is very interesting.
We know them by their fruit.
He is definitely acting like his name, masculine. He says what an ear tickler would say to his victim for sure.
Next couple years will see more of what he is.
There is two ways to defeat an enemy (assuming we are the enemy to him), one is to mock and the other is to slither us into submission.
One major reason things traditionally never get accomplished is we on the right often fall for the same deception as V is dishing out. Then we complain when we realize it was all a lie.
3 things though... his pharma billions and pre-covid posturing (as if he knew it was coming), his earlier pro-lockdown and vax stances, and his fresh off the farm Obama 2.0 perfectly crafted persona, all lead me to think he was in fact working for the black hats, now he is leaving before people dig too deep imo.
even if he endorses Trump he's gonna be on my shit-list, prettttty much indefinitely.... sorry
Yup.
Trump is crystal clear on this… “Vivek is not MAGA”
Reminds me of his comments about Ron DeSanctimonious long before we saw his true colours.
People are allowed to change their stances as they get more information. Remember both Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump started out as democrats. I don't think someone controlled by the cabal would be calling out J6 the way he is doing.
But so was JFK. The Democrat Party of 2024 is not the Democrat party of 1960.
Someone controlled by the Cabal and given the mission of a manchurian candidate to infiltrate Maga or undermine Trump would exactly call out J6 the way he is doing. IMO.
Always perceived him as the republican version of the Obama actor.
That's what struck me when I watched his 'resignation' speech. Wow. So 'polished' like Obama. And so fake.
But maybe, just maybe, he's not as scummy as Obama. Maybe he's just opportunistic. But I doubt it.
Wheat and chaff. Now is the time when they are being separated. The fact that Vivek ran against Trump, and attempted to co-opt the Trump base by talking like Trump, that doesn't give Swamy much credit.
And of course there was this.... https://greatawakening.win/p/17s5ozqTy5/they-did-not-even-bother-to-chan/c/
The only problem I have with this line of reasoning is it implies a level of being in touch with the populace that [whatever you want to call the bad guys here] just haven't had up until vivek enter the race... One of the reasons that, even though I didn't plan on voting for him, I thought he was useful to the movement, was he moved the overton window aggressively in the direction of maga, in a way that doesn't really align with the way the [bad guys here] always seemed to want to pull things back, just a little bit.
Even with Desantis, whom I think got set up for failure to kneecap trump, there's still that career politician stink that I just can get out of my nose...
I could be wrong, of course, but it's a big plothole that needs to be filled...
Not necessarily. It can also be explained by desperation. If they have been squeezed into a corner, if the only possible potential they have to edge out DJT is to field someone like DJT but who isn't, because his ideas and thinking and message is so darned popular that nothing else gets traction.
Step by step, over the past 3 years, their room for maneuver in terms of political messaging has been decimated.
I agree that he may have been useful. And that is how game theory works. If you have the upper hand in a game of chess, for example, you can narrow the opponents choices to such an extent that the moves he makes actually help you and undermine his own objectives.
In chess, of course, once the opponent realizes that, he normally resigns.
Is this the current state of the game? Whatever the [bad guys] Deep State / Cabal does, they end up helping Trump and the movement towards freedom.... Raid him? His popularity goes up. Prosecute him? More people in the middle side with him. More and more lawsuits? His wins caucuses without even showing up. Run pseudo-candidates against him? His qualities shine out even more.
#Q3673
completely off-topic, but did you hear about matpat "retiring"? kinda sad on it's own, but something weird about that one...
Had to netsearch matpat.
Haven't played PC games for years, except for angband, which I returned to after about 12+ years, over a boring holiday season.
nah, that's fair. Game theory's one of the bigger game-related channels, and it was weird when you watch his "retirement" video. There's been a lot of speculation about why, and it could be nothing, but it just seems...off somehow. =/
guy hasn't been the largest critic of youtube, but he's definitely pushed back a little bit here and there, and between the timing and the way he acts like someone twisted his arm, you can't help but wonder...
Agreed, however, something just doesn't sit right with me about Vivek. Too good to be true, perhaps?
He said all the right things perfectly to get elected and when he gets in, he'll turn on the entire country. Obama 2.0
Trump kept telling us story of the snake being rescued and ate his savior for a reason.
Yep, they will cart him back out for next round, when they think everyone will have forgotten ... and they probably will.
I disagree!
...you shouldn't be sorry, lol. You're correct, IMO
Vivek endorsed Trump going forward
I've been calling this
Same. Found a post from 5 months ago, prediction correct :)
Yup the narcissist thinks he will charm Trump for a high level job in his next admin.
I am pulling for Tucker Carlson for the VP slot. Then my next pick is Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai (Or Trump should put him somewhere)
Of course he did. Do you think he would ever not? His aim and goal has always been to ride on Trump's coattails and gain some glow off of him. But Trump sees through him very clearly.
"Vivek is not Maga"
so? His wef agenda has to continue. He's a planted snake.
I respect him more now. This was the right decision.
Agreed. I didn’t expect this, because the last couple weeks he was looking more and more like a plant to steal votes from Trump. But this move definitely shifts my view back to “unknown” for him, which is better than it was earlier today.
He made some slimy moves pre-caucus, but maybe he is legit, and is evolving from his shady past?
Time will tell.
I know I'm somehow not supposed to like Vivek, but at the very least he knows the right things to say. The way he owned the rest of the debaters and was uninvited from further appearances is pretty badass. I don't know much about his past, but he went into this with both middle fingers blazing and for that I appreciated the show. Despite what GEOTUS said, I think he is a bit MAGA. I never take Trump at face value. Look at the way he treated Bannon, yet Bannon and he still get along fine. "Enjoy the show."
Debates were a show. Nothing more nothing less. Vivek is posturing for a 2028 run and will represent a return to the bush republican years. He talks tough when the spotlight is on but his history and views on Trump raise huge red flags. Real patriot wouldnt have even stepped into the race if Trump was running
Perhaps.
But you can also look at it as Vivek was Trump’s stand-in at the debates, and to be fair, did a better job than Trump could have done.
I’m not sold on Vivek yet either, but as it stands currently, he has only helped Trump’s campaign.
Total nonsense. Trump diddnt need a "stand-in" nor could Vivek could have done a better job. Vivek talks smart but he gives me controlled opposition vibes the way he tries to appeal to voters. He would not have run against Trump if he wasnt controlled op. Im calling it now if he gets elected in 2028 hes going to start reversing progress under the guise of bipartisan compromise. There is nothing to compromise on. You dont give shit leftists an inch
🤷♂️ Time will reveal all.
He’ll make a good Trump surrogate taking on the media.
I really like the suggestion of placing him as press secretary.
He gets massive exposure to the American people while delivering deathblows to corporate reporters, helping Trump and positioning himself for a successful 2028 bid.
A long way out, certainly, and we still have the problem of election fraud which I haven’t seen any significant improvement to since 2020.
But it is fun to think about.
This is a very good development.
I’m not sure he was taking a lot of votes from Trump. It’s pretty clear that Ron/Vivek/Nimrata are splitting the non-Trump vote and they’re going narrow it down to one contender pretty soon here.
Why?
and supports Trump!
Will we now see a Haley-DeSanctus consolidation? That is really the last thing the DS can do on the Republican side to thwart Trump.
And it still won’t work. Vivek + Trump puts him at a 20 point lead over Haley + DeSantis.
Iowa caucus isn’t everything, but that was definitely everything for DeSantis. He put all of his eggs in the Iowa basket. If he drops, I think most of his supporters would vote Haley just to spite Trump, and go with RFK in the general.
But even still, Trump has it in the bag, as long as he doesn’t do something insane like offer Haley the VP spot.
The real fight will be at the polls during the general election, and fighting like never before against the fraud.
Trump has to ensure that his VP is a SOLID MAGA person and not some appeasement appointment recommended by Jared Kushner.
Fuck the smooth talking traitor.
BuT aT LeAsT hE sAyS tHe rIgHt tHiNgS
Vivek was never going for the presidency. A cabinet position was always his aim.
I think that these people are narcissist at heart. They love themselves so much they just can't imagine, can't comprehend that every one will not love them too. They see themselves as so smart, appealing, that everything the say is cleaver that it blinds them to the image the average voter see in them.
Ole Neocon Nikki speaking here as if she won the night. She assesses that with 12 candidates in race she was at two percent, but look at where we are now. (Third place out of four) Does she even know that with just 4 candidates in the race, being at 19%, especially when your opponent has 55+% is not any better.
Nikki is a delusional psychopath. I couldn't believe her 19% of the vote "victory" speech lol
Lmao he knew when he saw the results that he had zero chance against trump
Wow. I haven't been paying much close attention to Swampy, apart from listening to analysis and views around him, and of course that excellent post by
https://communities.win/c/GreatAwakening/p/17s5kGttIv/
So I decided to actually listen to his speech as presented by NBC in the linked article, and boy oh boy.
In early 2016, when I decided to listen to a few Trump speeches, I was immediately blown away by the authenticity and directness that Trump exuded, unlike ANY politician I have ever heard. In fact, unlike ALL the politicians, he struck me as being completely the real deal. The vibe was unmistakeable.
Listen to Vivek Swampy directly is a similar experience, except inverted. Instantly, Swampy seems so utterly polished, contrived, someone acting a role, by which I mean, almost all politicians play the role of [politician's image].
Tuning in to his facial expressions, eye movements, etc, I can see now why so many based Pedes have been likening him to Obama.
Same polished turd. It may be polished, but it's a turd. (Pardon my French.)
What a total charlatan. And he's right out there, his target audience being normies who think Trump has some good points, but who are still plugged in and feeding off of the mainstream narrative machine. Those who failed to recognize the TRUE nature of Donald Trump as a man, as a President, as a patriot, and who still believe the fake political behavior still advocated by the swamp creatures from left, right and center.
"We had to recognize there is no way for me to become president absent [things we don't want to see happen] in this country...."
Translation: "There's no way for me to become President unless the Cabal assassinates Donald Trump, but then, obviously I am the one who should be President!!!!"
<insert expression with (feigned) deep and serious concern>
Having had training in Hypnosis and NLP techniques, I find Swampy's methods here are so transparent. What he is doing is embedding a proposition, not out in the open, but slipping it under the rug.
ALL of his talking points are perfectly crafted for his maga and conservative audience.
"We have done everything in our part.... to make.... everyone of us in this room has done our part...."
Clearly rehearsed, then fluffed, muddling the expressions "done everything in our power..." and saying part instead, and then its like, oops, cannot focus on [we] (aka my backers, masters, etc) - have to make it about the common folsk, the people here, so he switches mid-sentence to "everyone of us in this room has done our part".
"to save this country..."
They all did their part to save the country? So, its over? They have no more part to do? Them campaigning for Swampy is equivalent to 'doing our part to save this country'???
Jeepers.
If you train in NLP & hypnosis, etc, you automatically watch people's eye movements, as they are most often indicators of which part of the brain/mind people are accessing when they speak, etc.
Watch Swampy's eye movements and how they go with his facial expressions.
The blinking when he says "we're a campaign founded on the truth" indicates he's lying, and he know's he is lying. The blinking is a mechanism to insert energy into his facial in order to hide and subvert any expression of the lying, which given free rein will naturally show.
"And I'm also making the decision..."
At key moments in his statements, he looks away, down, anywhere but directly at the people watching him. Clear giveaway. He's not really communicating with his audience openly and heart to heart. (Like Trump would, for example) He's telling a story, presenting an image that is other than who or what he really is.
"There are TWO America first candidates in this campaign...."
In other words, associating himself with Trump. Look! I'm with Trump. He and me are the two real America first candidates.
Blatant example of attempting to win points by association. What does DJT think? "Swampy is not Maga"
This is what corrupt politicians do. They spin, they create an image essentially to swindle voters in to supporting them.
"and now he will have my full endorsements for the Presidency...."
As if Trump needs Swampy's endorsement???? Give me a break.
A core part of the Q operation was dropping drops that inspired or sometimes directed anons to question, ask, poke around, and to essentially break free from the group think matrix.
This requires not only waking up to external information, but also an internal awakening, where we discover and confront our own prejudices, preconceptions, thinking methods and see how and where we have internalized the internal matrix. Combining these brings discernment towards truth, something you cannot develop simply with external information alone.
If someone cannot see the swamp in Vivek Swampy, I encourage them to dig a little deeper or a lot deeper.
If your eyes are open, it's so bleedingly obvious who this man is.
Wexner faggot drops out
I was just saying that DeSantis would drop out before Vivek. I was dead wrong.
Slick-talking con man who comes from a society with a strong in-group preference, another fake Republican. He and Bennie Shapiro are the same person. They both would use the wealth and resources of this nation to benefit their own race at the expense of every American citizen. Don't trust used-car salesman no matter how good they make you feel, the sale is all that matters to them.
https://rumble.com/v3d2pay-18-year-old-vivek-ramaswamy-challenges-al-sharpton-over-lack-of-political-e.html
Vivek as a wimpy, power hungry Harvard student in 2003 with fat Al Sharpton
https://rumble.com/v3htvi7-vivek-ramaswamy-on-msnbc-with-al-sharpton-9.2.23.html
Vivek as a well-groomed, power hungry swamp creature in 2023 with skinny Al Sharpton
*Edit: Pete Bootieguage was also among the Harvard students permitted to ask Sharpton a question at the event in 2003.
Perhaps he's bailing because of the fraud on his nomination papers.....
Obama means -bent over Vivek means-wisdom
Obama did and does bend over and Vivek tries to be wise.
It seems to me that they were both created by the same people behind the scenes.
Almost like Americans are like the person in the hole and the DS is Buffalo Bill. :)
Except a DS plant would never endorse Trump. V is a white hat or working for them
Yeah. It is interesting. If he took money from Schwab and his business magically increases without any output. It is very interesting.
We know them by their fruit.
He is definitely acting like his name, masculine. He says what an ear tickler would say to his victim for sure.
Next couple years will see more of what he is.
There is two ways to defeat an enemy (assuming we are the enemy to him), one is to mock and the other is to slither us into submission.
One major reason things traditionally never get accomplished is we on the right often fall for the same deception as V is dishing out. Then we complain when we realize it was all a lie.
That was quick.
Next up; vivek seen on the curb taking a fat shit
Well Bye!
It's trump or the final death of freedom.
now he wants to be VP and Pence 2.0 and Judas?
I still think he's the best outlook for 28. End the fucking ATF Trump.