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TRUMP reveals identity of 17 (rumble.com) 🗣️ What did Trump mean? 💬
posted 2 years ago by PandaMoon17 2 years ago by PandaMoon17 +109 / -0
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– LongTimeListener 62 points 2 years ago +62 / -0

Thinking Barron is Q or on the Q team is exactly the way the death cult had us in this position in the first place. Cmon people, quit grasping at straws. there is plenty available to give you hope without resorting to believing the ludicrous.

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– FractalizingIron 45 points 2 years ago +45 / -0

Someone had to say it.

Between you and me, longtime, I think that some people are hungry but haven't learned how to cook a meal Q-style, or bake the bread, as it were.

We've still got OG anons here, but I feel like we also have a lot who joined in after Q stopped posting, and they don't really understand the need for rigorous self-reflection and critical research and analysis.

It's an understandable situation. As the breadth of the Awakening expands, it seems like a certain amount of it gets diluted. On the other hand, I guess we always had our hopium addicts (negative connotation: believing in ideas that deliver an emotional kick but which a deleterious to the mental framework over time, because they aren't grounded in solid thinking). Austin Steinbart fandom comes to mind.

As you say, there is PLENTY around to generate hope, and not only hope but optimism, inspiration and a determined outlook, but some folks will tend to lean towards the easy lift of the hopium-laced hallucinations.

What I find hard to figure out is why this post is stickied. "THIS IS AN ELITE RESEARCH BOARD" sometimes seems more like nostalgia than current description!

End rant.

Addendum: Please note. This is just a /rant/. Just sharing some mental impressions, and not meant to grieve the mods or offend the OP. Maybe I'm too harsh, but its a /rant/. This too shall pass....

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– seadevil110 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

This is a rant I can agree with, wholeheartedly. Thank you.

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– Kunkussion 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

OG fam seconds your post. I knew from the beginning Q was not one person, this op is not a fucking comic book. You are right on all points, and why I have to practice patience myself with those who are not fully achieved their own understanding of things. Not mad at them at all, but we don't stop digging and we don't define absolutes and give the media bait. And we do need to split up this forum into sub groups, it would REALLY help

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

And we do need to split up this forum into sub groups, it would REALLY help

Interesting notion.

I think it would take a lot of work and manpower, and probably, the mods are overstretched as is...

Dunno.

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– PandaMoon17 [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

No offense taken. I get that people are hesitant about being red pilled because of things like the flat earth troll and other psyops that discourage them from stretching our comfort zone on what is possible. We find ourselves being scared of ridicule on ideas even though actual logic can allow it. I think we need to ask ourselves one honest question. Is it possible for Q to have predicted the number of things that all us "OGs" know that Q has predicted if Q did not have some supernatural knowledge of the future? I don't mean supernatural in a strictly religious sense. I mean supernatural specifically in the sense of what science publicly acknowledges to be possible.

If our answer to my question is YES, if we are being honest with ourselves, we know that we are either being illogical or just don't have a clue about math or statistics by not being open to the possibilities of technology or other supernatural abilities within logical reason that exist and are unknown to the general public.

After everything that has happened in the last 8 years, if you can honestly call yourself an "OG", and still think the Baron Trump novels aren't comms and proof of time travel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Trump_novels

You are either ignorant of math and statistics, or just surprisingly missed out on the research.

If we continue to be the "BS" gatekeepers without actually having our finger on the pulse of what is possible then we put ourselves in a box, a box that is very similar to the box that the TDS libtards have put themselves in. I see it happening here already. A lot of OGs have deleted their accounts. All the real talent on this website will eventually move on, and we that remain will be locked in this box we seem to be putting ourselves in already.

Honestly I'm really starting to see what Q meant by "the end wont be for everyone"

I do get it though. I understand part of the problem. It's not like everyone knows statistics and has a good long term memory or the time to do the hard research. It's not like we have a paid full time mod team that has the time to separate ALL the BS shill traps from the next real red pill.

My real problem is why are there so many knee jerk negative reactions to stuff like this when it should be common knowledge that this is possible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_child_prodigies

https://wecapable.com/high-iq-children/

Why do people on here have very strong irrational religious beliefs that can't even be backed up by the bible (or whatever ancient text they hold sacred), let alone logic, but yet can't imagine that aliens/ETs/angels/demons/whatever, time travel, etc etc still exist with one true God ruling over all of it?

My advice to everyone here: learn statistics and science sooner rather than later. The world is either going in one of two ways, Star Trek or Hunger Games. If you think its Hunger Games then delete your account already and start prepping.

P.S. If this really ever was an "ELITE" research board, then Cats would have perma-banned flat earth on day one.

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Yeah....? Nah. I could do a point by point breakdown and refutation of your arguments here, but is the effort worth it? I'll do just a couple, and leave it there.

I get that people are hesitant about being red pilled because of things like the flat earth troll and other psyops that discourage them from stretching our comfort zone on what is possible.

Implication that I'm hesitant about being red-pilled, or that I'm sheltering in a comfort zone about that is possible. Swing and a miss.

But more importantly, the narrative nuance you start out with is to draw a picture that implies a whole bunch of reasons why I disagree with your beliefs. It's way beyond unfounded assumption, which to me implies your not really interesting in increasing understanding, only in building up your own belief system.

A more blunt way to say it would be to write: "the only reason people don't agree with me is because they are scared, hesitant and stuck in a comfort zone."

scared of ridicule

Nope. Missed again.

we need to ask ourselves one honest question

Rhetorical device to tie the person(s) you are addressing in to your own grouping. "we" This imagined "we" is a construct in which you identify others by projecting your own view of yourself. Again, it also implies that (whoever - in this case a group you conceptually put me in) is NOT asking honest questions.

Is it possible for Q to have predicted the number of things that all us "OGs" know that Q has predicted

Here you go. "all of us OG's know that Q has predicted"

I suggest that you make a post listing those things that you think "all of us OG's know" and see how much agreement you get. I think you will find that your idea that Q "predicted" 'the number of things" is not shared by all that many. Myself, I certainly do not focus on or even give much cognitive emphasis to "predictions". Actually, I disagree with the idea that Q predicted X, y and z.

supernatural specifically in the sense of what science publicly acknowledges to be possible.

You'd have to flesh this out, because I fail to see what supernaturalness "science publicly acknowledges to be possible".

I'll stop there. I find your arguments to be wholly unconvincing, and moreover, to be rhetorically manipulative and frankly, self-focused, lacking objectivity.

But you do you. At least you kept it mostly civil.

EDIT/ADDENDUM

My real problem is why are there so many knee jerk negative reactions

To be fully frank, I think your real problem is that you are unable to listen to objective feedback and utilize it to refine your evaluations and expand your view.

You think you grasp everything better than everyone else, and that the reasons they do not agree with your conclusions are all NEGATIVE. Which is a great method of being able to dismiss anything that disagrees with you, because.... they are all motivated by <negative> things: hesitancy, fear of ridicule, not being honest, putting one's self in box, etc.

Your peers have responded to you. You may want to reflect a bit and ask if maybe there isn't something for you to learn here....

NB: u/lithopedion

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– PandaMoon17 [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I have one overall response and question for you. What if I do know more than you or most of the people here about whats really going on? Would that be somehow a bad thing for everyone? ....Its really not like I'm making stupid claims about stuff that can easily be disproven eg: "the earth is flat" or "trump is actually dead and has been replaced"

I'm sure there are people on here who know a whole lot more than they will ever admit me or you. If those people they make hard to swallow claims that cannot easily be disproved, does that then make them some how at odds with their "peers" (who don't like what they say for whatever reason)?

Everyone loves reddoric like this:

u/LongTimeListener

Thinking Barron is Q or on the Q team is exactly the way the death cult had us in this position in the first place. Cmon people, quit grasping at straws. there is plenty available to give you hope without resorting to believing the ludicrous."

Because the it makes them feel like they aren't like the OP and aren't falling for that crazy jump to conclusion stuff anymore....

...but really its just because it wasn't featured in a Scotty mar10 Video.

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

If those people they make hard to swallow claims that cannot easily be disproved,

The onus to 'prove' or make a case is on he who makes the claim, not the other way around.

Because the it makes them feel like they aren't like the OP and

I think when you start making claims about what other people are thinking or what they are feeling, you're on pretty shakey territory. One of the elements that in my view, weakens your arguments (case) rather than strengthening them.

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– PandaMoon17 [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

By saying "we" I was just replying in turn to the way you were seemly making your comment to the general group. It also gave me a chance to address everyone with how I've been seeing things go around here. Also don't act like everyone disagreed with me or what trump was saying on the video or what the guy in the video was saying just because the loudest voices were negative.

Ask yourself one question: Would this post have gotten 99 updoots or 500+ 2 or 3 years ago? and remember this post was still %90 positive response

What has really changed?

P.S. The Mods unstickied my post right as I was responding to all the negative comments in order to lower visibility.

It doesn't take a conspiracy theorist to figure this one out.

I wouldn't ever delete my account here but for some reason a less than small portion of the big OGs and major contributors have have. Its a shame but they must have had good reasons.

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

and remember this post was still %90 positive response

Only if you measure upvotes vs downvotes.

The actual engaged responses overwhelmingly disagreed with your views (and approach?)

Truth or untruth is not determined by popular vote, but it's not true that the 'response' was 90% positive.

By saying "we" I was just replying in turn

OK. I can accept that, although I think your characterization of the collective is off target.

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– PandaMoon17 [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Again, The loudest drive by "thats retarded" comments don't really count as real engagement or "research" in my book....or anything close to engaging and discussion encouraging arguments.

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– deleted 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0
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– merf 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I think most of this talk is simply us delighting in our ability to speculate seriously on an outlandish possibility. This sort of mental play is one of the few joys of being a conspiracy theorist.

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– HunnyB 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Thank you, the Q team had things planned long before they approached Trump to run.

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– photobuf 34 points 2 years ago +34 / -0

Baron is not Q. 7 years ago, he was 11 and I do not believe Baron would have Q clearance or have the knowledge of a military operation that was planned for decades. Slip of the tongue or trolling the media. Look here and look stupid! Keke

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– skf93 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

It could be possible if Barron is a time traveler. Dundundun!!!

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– photobuf 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah and monkeys are always flying out of my butt! Keke

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– LukyNumbrSlevinteen 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

It's Melania.

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– AmberWins 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Watch the wives

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– Mister_Winston 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I'm thinking it could be Melania because Q had to be someone who was always proximate to Trump but wouldn't arouse suspicion.

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– photobuf 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I am not thinking Melania either. Dan is probably on the Q "team" and he is always with Trump. Q team is less than 10 but more than 1.

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– sAVAge_bEaST 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

You guys have to be Joking. Team Q is Kennedy’s dead man switch.. (the good guys that want what’s best for their Nation & Grandchildren.. they hired us Anons - to help out our brothers become “Awakened” & we do it free of charge.

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– HunnyB 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Agreed, I stopped trying to figure out who Q was long ago. I certainly don't think it's Melania although I believe she has been used to send comms with some of her dresses and the white house Christmas tree stuff, that was long ago. I believe she's a woman that loves and supports this country just like President Trump does, and she does what she can, but I believe her concern is more with the children being trafficked, which people often lose focus of by debating theories like this.

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Q team is less than 10 but more than 1.

What I find interesting about this idea is that I think there is a bit more too it than some think. I guess I would contrast between the "Q team" and the Q operation.

Some folks think that the entire operation is only this "Q team" but I don't think that's the case. Looking at what Q actually wrote:

Q first mentions the "less than ten" motif on Nov 2, 2017

u/#q60

You can count the people who have the full picture on two hands.

Of those (less than 10 people) only three are non-military.

So the less than 10 refers specifically to a group of people who have the full picture. I guess we can label this as "the Q team", but what we should also pay attention to is the contrastive point: "have the full picture"

This implies that there are others who are part of the operation but who do not have the full picture.

Outside of a potential operator who has been dialed-in w/ orders (specific to his/her mission) nobody else has this information.

To me it the Q operation could well have a large number of operators, well beyond the less than ten, maybe many more. We know or highly suspect that Q communicated with some operators via the board: drops were made for various audiences: Anons, for enemy operatives, for White Hat operatives, etc.

For example, Dan the man may have very well been informed about certain parameters of the operation, but only those that specifically related to his mission, i.e. working with Q+ on social media posts and at times coordinating with Q on the chans.

I guess I can go with the "less than 10" = the Q team concept, but I don't think this precludes others being involved in the Q operation to greater or lesser extents. Need-to-know basis is big thing when it comes to military and security.

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– photobuf 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Looking at it like that, every Anon is part of the Q PLAN but we are not in the know!

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Well, yeah. We know something about the plan: we know that Q was posting on the chans, that Q was coordinating with Q+, that the purpose of the operation involves the awakening of a lot of people, etc.

We are certainly part of the plan, and part of the plan was to recruit and activate us!

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– PandaMoon17 [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

If trolling then it could be said of literally any comm that trump does if your opinion disagrees with it. That is not a argument. Why would he say 17 when the number that is comms 99 percent of the time when mentioned by trump? Why wouldn't he just say teenager especially when he knows hes 18. Trumps truth record is impeccable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_child_prodigies

https://wecapable.com/high-iq-children/

Why couldn't the son of very and powerful and smart parents with access to IA and knowledge we probably can't imagine be the head of the Q team?

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– photobuf 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

You think when this started in 2017 that Baron was head of the Q team? Keke

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– LRAD 27 points 2 years ago +27 / -0

He said Barron is 17 when he knows he's actually 18. This was a nod to Anons who are still paying attention. That's all.

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– queue-anon 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

will the media say "Trump doesn't know his own kids age"

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– HelloDolly 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I think they already did.

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– GodBlessAmerica58 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

I don't think He is Q, but he may be a part of the Q plan in some way...

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– PandaMoon17 [S] 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

Q is multiple people but hes apparently the main one. Trump literally said "he is 17" when hes obviously 18 years old. Don't need a complicated q proof for this one.

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– lithopedion 29 points 2 years ago +29 / -0

You think Barron Trump was talking to us on 8Chan, at the age of 10? Mam, you might actually be retarded, and not in the fun way.

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– MudDog 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

who said the time traveler was 10 at the time?

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– FractalizingIron 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

You mean, Barron is actually Austin Steinbart? Wow. I never suspected.....

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– Qtoad 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Hey,

don't assume her gender.

edit: this was sarcasm lol

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– FractalizingIron 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Note: not all pedes can read sarcasm.

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– Qtoad 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I personally don't like to add "/s" unless really necessary, I feel like it takes away from the humor of the sarcasm itself.

Good sarcasm to me is when you second-guess yourself whether it's sarcasm or not.

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– FractalizingIron 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Note: not all sarcasm requires an /s.

I thought your comment was extremely kekful. And obvious.

Sometimes even adding an /s doesn't help some folks to get it..... !

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– Qtoad 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Sometimes even adding an /s doesn't help some folks to get it..... !

Sad!

edit: I also left my comment open for more memes, I said "don't assume her gender." meaning I was assuming it to, but nobody held me accountable for my bigotry.

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– PandaMoon17 [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_child_prodigies

https://wecapable.com/high-iq-children/

So you're calling me retarded? The son of very and powerful and smart parents with access to IA and knowledge resources you probably cant imagine couldn't be the head of the Q team? Get a grip...

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– lithopedion 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Yes yes I am. You trot out two links about the idea of child prodigies, neither of which mention Barron - just that smart children exist, as your proof? Do way way better.

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– PandaMoon17 [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Oh, I'm sorry! My mistake. Now that I know that since he isn't listed publicity as a child genius that means that he couldn't possibly ever be one. Thanks for the "community notes"

....Come on people.

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– lithopedion 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I dunno m’am, You provided nothing of value about Barron’s potential. It’s like me saying “I think so and so is a murderer” and then I send you the Wikipedia page of famous murderers. That’s not research, it’s reaching.

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– PandaMoon17 [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Do you even Q bro? Literally everything Q does has plausible deniability behind it.

Thats akin to saying well trump didn't ever publicly or directly confirm that Q was a military op so there is no proof its not just huge larp.

Go back to patriots.win already and while you're at it get a booster. Don't be a science denier dude.

Why don't you go do something useful prove that he is and impress everyone on here....or go back to pw and jerk to the latest low effort libtard hate meme like all the other trolls

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– LBTrumplican2 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

Barron's birthday was March 20th. This was obviously recorded before then.

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– FractalizingIron 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

apparently the main one

Don't need a complicated q proof for this one

<facepalm>

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– GodBlessAmerica58 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

On a post re: the same topic someone mentioned when did Trump say that? Baron's just past his birthday... Do we have a confirmed date when Trump made the statement?

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– PandaMoon17 [S] 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Recall that when Trump entered the White House with Baron and Melania, Baron's shirt said "The Expert." It's been in our faces the whole time.

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– HunnyB 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

https://youtu.be/F2e2csDIPMw?si=wsTj_3psg4s9GS4p

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– winn 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

This is retarded

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– arturia 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Q is Qeqe, Pepe's older more greener frogbro.

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– Magasperger 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

u/#q206

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– Striker1 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

He’s trolling!! The next clip from cnn complains about how people aren’t seeing the live trial so “even though msm does a pretty good job of reporting it” (my ass), the people need to see it to understand who Trump is. My response—Please televise it! I think we’d all be interested!

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– Captainzoomer 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Maybe that's why Trump is "sleeping" and "farting" in the courtroom, so they televise it.

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– Zzirg720 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Even putting aside time travel, I don't put it past a hyper intelligent probably vaguely autistic 10 year old to be able to be part of something like the Q operation if born into that world and absorbing information like a sponge for that entire time. I'm not saying it's likely or that they'd even be in the lead position back then but to dismiss the possibility so easily as some do seems foolish to me. And then of course when you add in time travel it gets all kinds of confusing, is there more than one running around at a time? Etc.

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– americanjerky 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I’ll tell you who Q is.

Q is you, me, all of us. None of us. It doesn’t matter. Nothing can stop what is coming.

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– God_wins 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Hmm.. trump is a father to a kid who grew up with a father who is in the elite societies of the world. We have blackmail, child trafficking, pizza gate, and much more.

Somewhere I remember and I need to look it up in the Q posts -but if I remember correctly there was a post on the subject of what would a father do for his children or child…

Maybe what trump is saying is his son is his motivation/inspiration for this involved of this endeavor?

In the Bible God asked for a son to sacrificed and this man named Abraham. In evil the same requirement is that. Maybe Trump refused to sacrifice his son to their evil and this is why he is hated by them so much?

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– moebop 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Q+

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– SpaceForceTribunals 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Just an excuse to say the number

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– WestCelt 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

it isn't Barron, Trump would NEVER put his son in harms way. And, it would mean Barron was in all this when he was 14. come on......

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– PandaMoon17 [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

That's funny. As if his whole family isn't probably the most "in harms way" while also being the most protected family in history.

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– phatey 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Barron = Alien = Q

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– SOGWAP 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The young man refused the opportunity to be a delegate. But trump did say it was cute.

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– MuckeyDuck 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

When was this video made, because DailyMail is reporting: Melania Trump reveals son Barron, 18, has pulled out of being a delegate nominating his father for president because he has 'prior commitments'

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– escapegoat 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Barr-ON, Bar-bie, Bill Barr. Could be saying it's a go for the BBQ. They already roasted Brady. Foreshadowing...

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– OXRanger 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

IMO, disinformation. Perhaps an affirmation that families and children are most important or that youth are very important as the number 17 has a positive aura. Then again there is that Art of War thing? If the opposition goes after Barron another line is crossed and opposition will be divided.

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– PandaMoon17 [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I can totally dig that that point of view but disagree on this one.

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