Exactly. Reading/understanding an analog clock is very important. I used to urge my (2nd grade) parents to purchase an analog watch IF they intended to buy a watch for their kids.
Being able to read and write in cursive also helps with cognitive learning abilities like discernment. If you can effectively read cursive, you are better able to cognitively spot differences in context clues because the subconscious human mind will always find a way to tell others what you're really thinking versus what you're saying, whether thru spoken or written words, especially if you don't truly believe what you're wroting. Cursive betrays the author more readily than print writing when it comes to discerning certain contextual clues like the author's true meaning, therefore allowing the reader to discern the author's true meaning. The brain will inherently create micro fluctuations in the author's script that readers are able to find and analyze when using critical thinking as the key to unlocking what an author is putting out. Cursive is also an art form, and art has long been a way for people to find deeper meaning in what the artist is trying to convey. This is also how a trained person can spot forged signatures.
Social engineers know this, which is why I believe [they] quit teaching the art of cursive writing. It's also why [they]'ve removed art from the curriculum of most public schools. Art class wasn't just about learning to draw, it also teaches critical thinking. And critical thinking is a skill that [they] simply cannot allow The People to possess in any meaningful way.
Ancestral documents are also a mystery to these non-cursive writing people.
I deliberately make liberals crazy by writing cursive notes in the office. You have to have something to entertain yourself with!
After some months, my Russian teacher explained that I should do my homework in cursive, as only children print, and it is expected to write in cursive on the State Language Exam. So, I found a PDF of a children's workbook for cursive and over 2 weeks I learned it.
You are exactly correct! They print their names like a first grader. Anyone can forge that! Plus they cannot read any old documents written in cursive. It is all very intentional to dumb down our population.
I don't think it is an intentional plot. Having lived with a (good) primary school teacher for 30 years and seen something of the environment, it is far more credible to think the abandonment of cursive is simply the teachers not wanting to spend time on it, either through laziness, lack of skill, or being overstuffed with priorities. It is the teachers who first dumb themselves down. And parents don't care. (They are often somewhat dumb as well.)
Yes teachers are lazy we all know this. Taken from a comment above yours, laziness does not account for this.
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Being able to read and write in cursive also helps with cognitive learning abilities like discernment. If you can effectively read cursive, you are better able to cognitively spot differences in context clues because the subconscious human mind will always find a way to tell others what you're really thinking versus what you're saying, whether thru spoken or written words, especially if you don't truly believe what you're wroting. Cursive betrays the author more readily than print writing when it comes to discerning certain contextual clues like the author's true meaning, therefore allowing the reader to discern the author's true meaning. The brain will inherently create micro fluctuations in the author's script that readers are able to find and analyze when using critical thinking as the key to unlocking what an author is putting out. Cursive is also an art form, and art has long been a way for people to find deeper meaning in what the artist is trying to convey. This is also how a trained person can spot forged signatures.
Social engineers know this, which is why I believe [they] quit teaching the art of cursive writing. It's also why [they]'ve removed art from the curriculum of most public schools. Art class wasn't just about learning to draw, it also teaches critical thinking. And critical thinking is a skill that [they] simply cannot allow The People to possess in any meaningful way.
Well, I accept the existence of graphology, or whatever the name is for handwriting analysis, but as a motive, I think it is bunk. I have written by hand for all my life, and my handwriting varies from all kinds of causes having nothing to do with my intent of communication. If it takes a graphologist to figure such things out, it is like saying door locks are no good because they can be picked by a locksmith.
Laziness is only part of the possible problem. I was focusing more on ignorance. And there is also bureaucratic distraction resulting from sociological pushing. There are plenty of hard-working teachers, in an environment that undermines what they are trying to do.
What nobody has mentioned is that cursive writing is excellent training for hand-eye coordination, the ability to direct one's hands and fingers to make delicate motions. It does tie in with instruction in art. I find it deplorable that so many of the classes that I grew up with in school seem to have been eliminated by an uncultured "educational" bureaucracy: wood shop, metal shop, music, art... The less you have to learn, the less you will ever know.
Cursive was the biggest waste of time in grade school. 90s curriculum still had it and I hated it.
Touch typing is being lost even in an all digital age, and I think that is a way bigger concern.
Typing is way more important. Two decades later I can still 100wpm blind even though I use an actual keyboard less often. The average kid these days cannot accurately break 30-40wpm and take away predictive/context typing and their spelling goes out the door
I say this as someone who loves and owns multiple fountain pens. The amount of time needed for good penmanship is higher than learning a language. Cursive is irrelevant.
The real issue is literacy, let's make sure students can read before we worry about floofy letters
Correlation does not equal causation. Cursive is definitely good to know for a slew of reasons, but you're not going to be illiterate if you don't know it.
That comment is straight out of pharma's playbook. We're not talking about vaccines.
Teaching cursive teaches a method of creative learning. That creative learning creates new unique pathways in the brain. Each new pathway opens other creative learning opportunities.
Everyone has their own unique signature, right? Less creative learning (cursive) equals a step to dumbing down the masses
"That comment is straight out of pharma's playbook."
No, it's a fact. We can't blame people being dumber because everyone isn't taught cursive anymore. The reason cursive isn't being taught is because it's largely irrelevant. Cursive was invented to write quickly and efficiently, since all communications are electronic now, cursive is obsolete. You don't see people being taught how to use typewriters, telegrams or fax in school for the same reason. Even paper checks are slowly starting to become obsolete!
Once again, I'm very much in favor of cursive being taught. But let's pump the brakes on the pearl clutching regarding cursive being essential to creative and unique children.
Typewriters are not computer keyboards. It's a completely different mechanism especially since they have to be manually reset for each line. Hand a kid a typewriter and they will have a hell of a time
Anons here have been on top of this for awhile. Good to revisit though, I teach my young children it, but then again I teach them to stop at stop signs when we bike/walk/roller blade unlike the other 95% that live around us, so many scooters zipping past such weeak legs it is creating(which Iβm sure is the plan). This could be a whole separate post of the pussification of kids, however the parents that are βrearingβ them are the real reason. GAW search history Cursive
I have been ranting about this since it first started. My grandchildren will not be able to read the papers left to them by their own ancestors. It needs to change now.
I'm not against children being taught in cursive but let's be real. It's not a foreign alphabet like cyrillic. It's loopy print, not exactly rocket science to read it.
Also, the act of forming the letters as you handwrite something, helps to cement this knowledge in your brain. By having kids type everything on keyboards, they are missing out on this important tool for learning.
How to frighten the new generation. Put them in a room with a rotary phone, an analog watch and a tv with no remote. Then leave directions on how to use in cursive.
They can't read an analog clock either.
Exactly. Reading/understanding an analog clock is very important. I used to urge my (2nd grade) parents to purchase an analog watch IF they intended to buy a watch for their kids.
The dementia test is a an analog clock.
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Wait until you get to their logic and reasoning, and problem solving skills....
Or use a manual can opener
Yes.
Sure can't.
Being able to read and write in cursive also helps with cognitive learning abilities like discernment. If you can effectively read cursive, you are better able to cognitively spot differences in context clues because the subconscious human mind will always find a way to tell others what you're really thinking versus what you're saying, whether thru spoken or written words, especially if you don't truly believe what you're wroting. Cursive betrays the author more readily than print writing when it comes to discerning certain contextual clues like the author's true meaning, therefore allowing the reader to discern the author's true meaning. The brain will inherently create micro fluctuations in the author's script that readers are able to find and analyze when using critical thinking as the key to unlocking what an author is putting out. Cursive is also an art form, and art has long been a way for people to find deeper meaning in what the artist is trying to convey. This is also how a trained person can spot forged signatures.
Social engineers know this, which is why I believe [they] quit teaching the art of cursive writing. It's also why [they]'ve removed art from the curriculum of most public schools. Art class wasn't just about learning to draw, it also teaches critical thinking. And critical thinking is a skill that [they] simply cannot allow The People to possess in any meaningful way.
Cursive requires intenxsive concentration to do correctly. An ability to avoid distraction. This is lost in today's schools.
they used to have typewriters that typed in cursive.
I'm not sure I ever realized that. The typeface is beautiful. Now I want one! Wonder how hard it is to get ribboms for them.
https://i.redd.it/h0w0bwub6g761.jpg
Olivetti . I had one, too, but my professors at Syracuse hated it.
Brilliant post. The brain forms synapses by being made to ratiocinate.
Ancestral documents are also a mystery to these non-cursive writing people. I deliberately make liberals crazy by writing cursive notes in the office. You have to have something to entertain yourself with!
You have won my admiration!!!
This.
Kek!! keep going!
LoL! Today it's cursive, tomorrow it's using letter case, and punctuation -- important clues for the reader. Oh wait, I think tomorrow is also here.
After some months, my Russian teacher explained that I should do my homework in cursive, as only children print, and it is expected to write in cursive on the State Language Exam. So, I found a PDF of a children's workbook for cursive and over 2 weeks I learned it.
Cursive Cyrillic is actually quite beautiful.
You are exactly correct! They print their names like a first grader. Anyone can forge that! Plus they cannot read any old documents written in cursive. It is all very intentional to dumb down our population.
I don't think it is an intentional plot. Having lived with a (good) primary school teacher for 30 years and seen something of the environment, it is far more credible to think the abandonment of cursive is simply the teachers not wanting to spend time on it, either through laziness, lack of skill, or being overstuffed with priorities. It is the teachers who first dumb themselves down. And parents don't care. (They are often somewhat dumb as well.)
Yes teachers are lazy we all know this. Taken from a comment above yours, laziness does not account for this.
βΌ β SuckaFree 10 hours ago +23 / -0 Being able to read and write in cursive also helps with cognitive learning abilities like discernment. If you can effectively read cursive, you are better able to cognitively spot differences in context clues because the subconscious human mind will always find a way to tell others what you're really thinking versus what you're saying, whether thru spoken or written words, especially if you don't truly believe what you're wroting. Cursive betrays the author more readily than print writing when it comes to discerning certain contextual clues like the author's true meaning, therefore allowing the reader to discern the author's true meaning. The brain will inherently create micro fluctuations in the author's script that readers are able to find and analyze when using critical thinking as the key to unlocking what an author is putting out. Cursive is also an art form, and art has long been a way for people to find deeper meaning in what the artist is trying to convey. This is also how a trained person can spot forged signatures. Social engineers know this, which is why I believe [they] quit teaching the art of cursive writing. It's also why [they]'ve removed art from the curriculum of most public schools. Art class wasn't just about learning to draw, it also teaches critical thinking. And critical thinking is a skill that [they] simply cannot allow The People to possess in any meaningful way.
Well, I accept the existence of graphology, or whatever the name is for handwriting analysis, but as a motive, I think it is bunk. I have written by hand for all my life, and my handwriting varies from all kinds of causes having nothing to do with my intent of communication. If it takes a graphologist to figure such things out, it is like saying door locks are no good because they can be picked by a locksmith.
Laziness is only part of the possible problem. I was focusing more on ignorance. And there is also bureaucratic distraction resulting from sociological pushing. There are plenty of hard-working teachers, in an environment that undermines what they are trying to do.
What nobody has mentioned is that cursive writing is excellent training for hand-eye coordination, the ability to direct one's hands and fingers to make delicate motions. It does tie in with instruction in art. I find it deplorable that so many of the classes that I grew up with in school seem to have been eliminated by an uncultured "educational" bureaucracy: wood shop, metal shop, music, art... The less you have to learn, the less you will ever know.
Very good point
Makes sense in my very level.....pjre evil.
Cursive was the biggest waste of time in grade school. 90s curriculum still had it and I hated it.
Touch typing is being lost even in an all digital age, and I think that is a way bigger concern.
Typing is way more important. Two decades later I can still 100wpm blind even though I use an actual keyboard less often. The average kid these days cannot accurately break 30-40wpm and take away predictive/context typing and their spelling goes out the door
I say this as someone who loves and owns multiple fountain pens. The amount of time needed for good penmanship is higher than learning a language. Cursive is irrelevant.
The real issue is literacy, let's make sure students can read before we worry about floofy letters
Cursive went away and literacy goes down. Maybe not a direct relationship but probably related.
Hot take that disrupts the circle jerk within this thread: literacy is down for other reasons other than "we stopped teaching cursive".
Maybe because we don't encourage reading comprehension anymore.
'shhh somebody might hear you.'
I do believe you are bang on .
Correlation does not equal causation. Cursive is definitely good to know for a slew of reasons, but you're not going to be illiterate if you don't know it.
That comment is straight out of pharma's playbook. We're not talking about vaccines.
Teaching cursive teaches a method of creative learning. That creative learning creates new unique pathways in the brain. Each new pathway opens other creative learning opportunities. Everyone has their own unique signature, right? Less creative learning (cursive) equals a step to dumbing down the masses
"That comment is straight out of pharma's playbook."
No, it's a fact. We can't blame people being dumber because everyone isn't taught cursive anymore. The reason cursive isn't being taught is because it's largely irrelevant. Cursive was invented to write quickly and efficiently, since all communications are electronic now, cursive is obsolete. You don't see people being taught how to use typewriters, telegrams or fax in school for the same reason. Even paper checks are slowly starting to become obsolete!
Once again, I'm very much in favor of cursive being taught. But let's pump the brakes on the pearl clutching regarding cursive being essential to creative and unique children.
QWERTY keyboard has exited the chat.
Typewriters are not computer keyboards. It's a completely different mechanism especially since they have to be manually reset for each line. Hand a kid a typewriter and they will have a hell of a time
Point taken. I must know smart kids.
The part always left out is, "yes, but without correlation no causation can ever be established."
But would you and others still not be able to read documents and information that is written in cursive?
The part always left out is, "yes, but without correlation no causation can ever be established."
We had a typing class in 7'th grade which helped me tremendously in typing instead of hunt and peck for the letters. This was circa 1966.
Same here in 1974. It was an intensive summer class and I learned in 2 weeks. It was rough, but I was so proud of myself!
it is a good skill to learn.
WOOSH
Spell-ing....
Curse-ive....
Majick...
Pen-man-ship
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Nero Linguistics
Anons here have been on top of this for awhile. Good to revisit though, I teach my young children it, but then again I teach them to stop at stop signs when we bike/walk/roller blade unlike the other 95% that live around us, so many scooters zipping past such weeak legs it is creating(which Iβm sure is the plan). This could be a whole separate post of the pussification of kids, however the parents that are βrearingβ them are the real reason. GAW search history Cursive
Real Signature?
I have been ranting about this since it first started. My grandchildren will not be able to read the papers left to them by their own ancestors. It needs to change now.
I'm not against children being taught in cursive but let's be real. It's not a foreign alphabet like cyrillic. It's loopy print, not exactly rocket science to read it.
Reason #1 - AI can't read cursive
Also, the act of forming the letters as you handwrite something, helps to cement this knowledge in your brain. By having kids type everything on keyboards, they are missing out on this important tool for learning.
This is also one of the strategies to overcoming dyslexia.
Exactly.
Only thing I use cursive for is when I physically sign documents.
It isn't just the schools not teaching it, it professions dropping it. I can type in cursive in Office 365, any email has the same ability.
E-signature's have eliminated the need to write in cursive.
The US Miltary teaches writing in all caps for watch standing log entries.
If we mandated tying documents in cursive, then the issues would disappear overnight.
Balancing a checkbook is far more valuable than learning cursive. Numbers don't lie.
Using block chain as part of chain of custody is way more valuable than cursive
Only whites can read/write cursive. It's our own secret language.
It WAS own secret language.
Itβs up to us parents, ultimately. Iβve taught all 5 of my kids cursive for this exact reason
I have a meme somewhere that says:
How to frighten the new generation. Put them in a room with a rotary phone, an analog watch and a tv with no remote. Then leave directions on how to use in cursive.
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It always stimulates neurological pathways and connections within the brain that the kids are missing out on!!!
I learned cursive in school, and still can't read my Grandma's hand writing
Truth!!! Ignorance entraps.
But look at up side.
Mom and dad can communicate with notes and kids has not a clue what is said. :)
Sad state of affairs for sure.
I'm burdened by age being a granpa I guess :)
Karen Morgan - Gen Z can't read cursive.
https://www.tiktok.com/@drybarcomedy/video/7241281933840370986?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc
Excellent
John Rich is a retard, his attempt to get Jordan Peterson to accept JC as his Lord and Savior is the most cringe thing I've ever seen
sure you arenβt a handshake -that was an incredibly ignorant comment
Did you watch it? Cringe