What was widely perceived as an act of war was, in truth, nothing more than a clever comedy, a charade orchestrated to serve far different ends. The American strike on Iranian nuclear facilities was not intended to set the Middle East ablaze, but rather to make a wider conflict impossible. The atomic weapon, brandished like a scarecrow, was never anything but the pretext; the true ambition of certain parties, particularly in Israel, was regime change in Tehran.
The military futility of the entire endeavor becomes glaringly obvious when one considers the very instruments of this supposedly divine wrath. These famous, much-vaunted bunker-buster bombs can penetrate no more than sixty meters of rock. Yet, Iran's nuclear sanctuaries, such as the one at Fordow, lie buried beneath hundreds of meters of mountain—a depth no conventional charge can possibly reach. To strike the mountain's peak in order to destroy what lies at its base is an act of theatrical absurdity, designed not to annihilate, but to create an illusion.
The stagecraft continued with a series of blatant clues for anyone willing to see them. Iran's formidable air defenses remained curiously silent, as if under orders not to disturb the performance. Furthermore, the American bombers, these stealthy phantoms built for invisibility, flew their mission with their transponders on, their progress tracked and broadcast live on American television. Never has a surprise been more thoroughly announced. This operation mirrors, in every respect, the one conducted in Syria years prior: a pre-arranged, symbolic strike with no strategic consequences, following a now well-established protocol.
With this Machiavellian masterstroke, Trump placated the warlike appetites of his allies only to disarm them. By conducting this operetta of an attack, he destroyed the belligerent narrative. He gave the hawks their moment of false bravado, then immediately proclaimed the threat eliminated and the time for peace talks at hand. And so, Netanyahu, the apostle of preemptive war, finds himself entirely stripped of his sole justification. By declaring the threat annihilated, Trump snatched away his casus belli with the skill of a magician, leaving him trapped, forced into silence lest he appear an isolated warmonger.
Far from being crippled, the Iranian regime is paradoxically strengthened, as America has just publicly relieved it of its greatest burden. The nature of the game has changed: we move from the arena of war to the arena of negotiation, Trump's preferred domain. The objective was never destruction, but the creation of the conditions for a "deal."
Def Sec / Chairman during their press briefing specifically mentioned that as far as they know there were were no shots fired at the package either on the way to the mission or on the way out of the mission.
It also fits perfectly with stealth characteristics. The point of stealth is not to make the aircraft categorically invisible. It is to reduce its signature to the point of being undetectable until it is at short range. And then to prevent any fire control system, operating at shorter wavelengths, from being able to pick up their signature.
Trump posted a Truth several days / week ago saying that they / we have "total control of the skies over Iran"
To me, that would mean that We took out their ability to see, hear, and certainly launch anything at the B-2's we were planning on sending in.
Which makes sense; AFAIK, that's exactly how it's supposed to work; take out the enemies radar / defensive / offensive measures BEFORE you send your big, expensive, slow & less maneuverable bombers in to do the heavy destruction.
To put it another way; I can't imagine a scenario where we'd send our B-2's into even SLIGHTLY contested airspace. Not worth the risk.
Actual quote:
“We now have complete and total control of the skies over Iran,” Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social. “Iran had good sky trackers and other defensive equipment, and plenty of it, but it doesn’t compare to American made, conceived, and manufactured ‘stuff.’ Nobody does it better than the good ol’ USA.”
What has stealth got to do with that? No surprise that "retaliatory actions" did not occur before the bombing. And no surprise that the Iranian command-and-control system is probably severely damaged, hindering any damage assessment, deliberation over what to do, and execution of any plan. There is such a thing as a response time loop (Col. John Boyd's OODA Loop).
My understanding is that Israel cleared the way, the bombers took a route that was already cleared by Israeli Forces. The entire operation was coordinated with Netanyahu.
Narratives, narratives, narratives. The only accurate analysis is to assume everyone is lying. Did you see it happen? No? Then it didnt happen or it was staged.
And who provides the insight that "everyone is lying"? Doesn't it follow that such a person is also lying?
The only accurate analysis is to determine whether anyone is lying. Plenty of real things happen when you are asleep or out of your line of vision. Living in the real world depends on them being real. You are the person who throws all the history and science books out of the library. When you do that, you are left with ignorance. And you say things like "everyone is lying." Which would include you.
It's a case of "So what?" If you can't pick them up on radar or establish a firing solution, it makes no difference. The transponder position error & interval is not good enough for target engagement. It's not clear if they shut down the transponder return for the actual target run and resumed it afterward.
as I guessed and hoped they arranged the attack with opposing force, in a way
Where to hit you to satisfy our war hawks and their dancing I monkeys then they are out of any more options. War over Iran can build whatever it wants.
I watched the video of the explosion’s of the “attack”, my take away is that it looks like an oil or gasoline fire in the distance, not an underground strike. What was burning? Was the mountain on fire? Such an attack should have produced dust and maybe some debris and most of the fireworks would have been 90ft underground. Impressive looking from a distance but not the type of aftermath you would expect.
How would they do that ? By telling the truth ? They are stuck. They cannot call him weak, or TACO now, and they cannot call him a warmonger since it was a very short operation and he called for peace. And I think the one who should be the most furious is Netanhyaou, since he cannot use any excuse now to continue attacking Iran to create the "Greater Israel".
if he do, he will turn whole world MORE against them, as the world is not silent anymore, nobody cares about Holo... stuff but everybody cares about needles dying of children and total Gaza destruction.
it is quite visible in all circles.
No, just a small minority of racists like yourself. A level of Q has swept the world, but you’ve always been wrong about Israel and where both God and Trump stand on the matter ☺️
like you know Trump's or God's stance.
Blasphemy !
Also you try to trick the almighty God with chickens, sacrificing and eating them
blaming them for your misdeeds. Is it working for you?
Modern poisoning of the wellss > Moderna , AZ, Pfizer
Modern Children sacrifice > child predation and Gaza
Modern opening the gates of Toledo > Massive lawless importing of migrants to US UK and EU.
Say it isn't so ?
Because the narrative of “Yahweh hates Israel, Trump is liberating terrorist nations from themselves” does not comport with reality. This is nothing more than a push of the goalpost to satisfy the anger and soften the insanity of people who want Israel to be destroyed. I liken them to the people being deported by Trump and Homan for terrorizing the U.S./Jewish college students and U.S. campuses overall with defeated Iran propaganda. They’ll likely never admit it here, but they would fund those terrorists to regain entry to the U.S. just to perpetuate a racist narrative and appease their own agenda ☺️ meanwhile, Trump continues stomping out their narrative by bombing Iran (as they deserve to be).
The stagecraft continued with a series of blatant clues for anyone willing to see them. Iran's formidable air defenses remained curiously silent, as if under orders not to disturb the performance. Furthermore, the American bombers, these stealthy phantoms built for invisibility, flew their mission with their transponders on, their progress tracked and broadcast live on American television. Never has a surprise been more thoroughly announced.
This is only partially accurate, but not in the way that supports the above statement and the overall message:
planners devised a deception: on June 21, one group of B-2 bombers from Whiteman Air Base, Missouri, flew west toward Guam with traceable transponders, while seven others, transponders off, headed east to Iran undetected, per General Dan Caine’s Pentagon briefing.
If you destroy the ways in and out of a bunker, it is effectively destroyed. If you destroy the air handling it becomes uninhabitable. So, if that was the goal then President Trump succeeded.
What good is it if you can no longer get to it? Even if it's fully intact it's no good.
If there really was uranium still there, it would be uninhabitable. Even if there wasn't, the Iranians wouldn't have been able to remove the equipment that was processing the uranium - and they are radioactive as well.
It seems to me that the Trump detractors have to find a new rhetorical approach to diminish this great achievement because if they don't they're left with egg on their faces.
Check out how what is Happening with Iran with what is going on in China. 40% of its oil comes from Iran. Economically the tariffs from the US and EU have devastated their economy. A large decrease in Chinese population (estimates about 400 million missing Chinese) now, and a loss of 40% of their oil supply has them in a decline…..the CCP is desperate!
I saw a youtube video a month or 2 about China's devastation from the tariffs - and from COVID. The moderator also put blame on the Chinese people that buy multiple houses/apartments but only use one of them. I believe she said the Chinese don't have all of the wealth storage options free countries have so they put their money in houses. I think that also gets them some sort of subsidies as well because with 3 houses a family of 4 becomes 12 people (4 in each house).
What that ends up doing is tricking the system to think there are 100s of millions more people than they really are. There are statistics out there that say China has somewhere between 400 and 600 million real people.
With these things (COVID, tariffs, and real estate gaming) they are slowly destroying China from within. Schools and other infrastructure are being built for the "ghost people". More welfare is given to counteract the people starving from poor locally-grown food, bad agriculture, and no jobs. There are housing shortages because of the people gaming the system - and because of their big real-estate companies not being able to meet their debt payments. Now they aren't getting the USAID and other US scams that ran wild under the demons. They can't just turn their manufacturing from export to local use because their people (for the most part) can't afford the prices (even if discounted) and don't have jobs to give them enough money to even buy it.
I just wonder if the "Xi is being isolated so he can be fired" talk is all fake. As many of us believe Trump could be working with Putin and Xi, I could conceivably see another Trump "production" where Xi comes out and asks for peace and agrees to play nice. Meaning no more currency manipulation, Taiwan becomes recognized by the UN and the rest of the world, we become allies first with Taiwan, and then China itself, Both nations wipe each other's debt (China still owes us from WWII, and with interest it is likely $2T by now) and we strengthen our trading ties. The CCP will disappear, like the USSR broke up - and the world will probably help stabilize the new China.
Think about it. Trump solidified ties with Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, and some other nations this term. He stopped a war in Africa, one in the Middle East, and one in Asia (Pakistan and India) and it's only June. He got NATO to push for %5 of each country's GDP for NATO dues and Article 5 protection. He exposed the South African President to the world. He appears to be moving at lightning speed across the world to fix the problem areas - while also fixing our issues as well, and it is becoming easier to see for everyone.
China is the big dog. We depend on them for a TON of stuff we need to survive and even defend ourselves. They do the same with us. I think he may just be telling all these world leaders that if MAGA is ever out of power and we get another Obama, Biden, or Bush-like POTUS they could certainly go all George Bush/Axis of Evil and destroy both countries just by severing trade and locking them out. It works for Trump because he isn't threatening to do that to them - he is reminding them of the neocons and/or the communists that will eventually cheat their way back in.
If Trump, Xi, and Putin are working together, it really fits well with the Q drops, like "sometimes you can't tell them - you have to show them" (paraphrasing here), or "you're watching a movie" or likely a bunch of other stuff I'm leaving out. Trump is bringing world peace and solving centuries old problems, and I think China and Russia are next. Look for Russia/Ukraine to have a peace deal soon. Who knows - maybe China will happen first, although I think he may deal with Brazil and their corrupt Supreme Court and communist president that stole the Presidency from Bolsonaro.
What was widely perceived as an act of war was, in truth, nothing more than a clever comedy, a charade orchestrated to serve far different ends. The American strike on Iranian nuclear facilities was not intended to set the Middle East ablaze, but rather to make a wider conflict impossible. The atomic weapon, brandished like a scarecrow, was never anything but the pretext; the true ambition of certain parties, particularly in Israel, was regime change in Tehran.
The military futility of the entire endeavor becomes glaringly obvious when one considers the very instruments of this supposedly divine wrath. These famous, much-vaunted bunker-buster bombs can penetrate no more than sixty meters of rock. Yet, Iran's nuclear sanctuaries, such as the one at Fordow, lie buried beneath hundreds of meters of mountain—a depth no conventional charge can possibly reach. To strike the mountain's peak in order to destroy what lies at its base is an act of theatrical absurdity, designed not to annihilate, but to create an illusion.
The stagecraft continued with a series of blatant clues for anyone willing to see them. Iran's formidable air defenses remained curiously silent, as if under orders not to disturb the performance. Furthermore, the American bombers, these stealthy phantoms built for invisibility, flew their mission with their transponders on, their progress tracked and broadcast live on American television. Never has a surprise been more thoroughly announced. This operation mirrors, in every respect, the one conducted in Syria years prior: a pre-arranged, symbolic strike with no strategic consequences, following a now well-established protocol.
With this Machiavellian masterstroke, Trump placated the warlike appetites of his allies only to disarm them. By conducting this operetta of an attack, he destroyed the belligerent narrative. He gave the hawks their moment of false bravado, then immediately proclaimed the threat eliminated and the time for peace talks at hand. And so, Netanyahu, the apostle of preemptive war, finds himself entirely stripped of his sole justification. By declaring the threat annihilated, Trump snatched away his casus belli with the skill of a magician, leaving him trapped, forced into silence lest he appear an isolated warmonger.
Far from being crippled, the Iranian regime is paradoxically strengthened, as America has just publicly relieved it of its greatest burden. The nature of the game has changed: we move from the arena of war to the arena of negotiation, Trump's preferred domain. The objective was never destruction, but the creation of the conditions for a "deal."
Def Sec / Chairman during their press briefing specifically mentioned that as far as they know there were were no shots fired at the package either on the way to the mission or on the way out of the mission.
Fits perfectly with this scenario.
It also fits perfectly with stealth characteristics. The point of stealth is not to make the aircraft categorically invisible. It is to reduce its signature to the point of being undetectable until it is at short range. And then to prevent any fire control system, operating at shorter wavelengths, from being able to pick up their signature.
Does it fit the fact that even after the bombing, and on the way back from the mission there was still no retaliatory actions ?
Trump posted a Truth several days / week ago saying that they / we have "total control of the skies over Iran"
To me, that would mean that We took out their ability to see, hear, and certainly launch anything at the B-2's we were planning on sending in.
Which makes sense; AFAIK, that's exactly how it's supposed to work; take out the enemies radar / defensive / offensive measures BEFORE you send your big, expensive, slow & less maneuverable bombers in to do the heavy destruction.
To put it another way; I can't imagine a scenario where we'd send our B-2's into even SLIGHTLY contested airspace. Not worth the risk.
Actual quote:
Source: https://newrepublic.com/post/196916/donald-trump-threat-israel-iran-airspace
What has stealth got to do with that? No surprise that "retaliatory actions" did not occur before the bombing. And no surprise that the Iranian command-and-control system is probably severely damaged, hindering any damage assessment, deliberation over what to do, and execution of any plan. There is such a thing as a response time loop (Col. John Boyd's OODA Loop).
You have to ask the guy who wrote “ It also fits perfectly with stealth characteristics”
Stealth had to do with why no shots were fired at them coming in or going out.
Stealth had nothing to do with Iranian retaliatory actions.
I am only repeating myself for your sake.
So the answer to my question is “no it does not”. That’s all i needed to know. It was not an argument, but a simple question.
My understanding is that Israel cleared the way, the bombers took a route that was already cleared by Israeli Forces. The entire operation was coordinated with Netanyahu.
Narratives, narratives, narratives. The only accurate analysis is to assume everyone is lying. Did you see it happen? No? Then it didnt happen or it was staged.
And who provides the insight that "everyone is lying"? Doesn't it follow that such a person is also lying?
The only accurate analysis is to determine whether anyone is lying. Plenty of real things happen when you are asleep or out of your line of vision. Living in the real world depends on them being real. You are the person who throws all the history and science books out of the library. When you do that, you are left with ignorance. And you say things like "everyone is lying." Which would include you.
~ James Grear
But as the OP noted, the bombers flew with their transponders ON.
It's a case of "So what?" If you can't pick them up on radar or establish a firing solution, it makes no difference. The transponder position error & interval is not good enough for target engagement. It's not clear if they shut down the transponder return for the actual target run and resumed it afterward.
as I guessed and hoped they arranged the attack with opposing force, in a way Where to hit you to satisfy our war hawks and their dancing I monkeys then they are out of any more options. War over Iran can build whatever it wants.
I watched the video of the explosion’s of the “attack”, my take away is that it looks like an oil or gasoline fire in the distance, not an underground strike. What was burning? Was the mountain on fire? Such an attack should have produced dust and maybe some debris and most of the fireworks would have been 90ft underground. Impressive looking from a distance but not the type of aftermath you would expect.
If I knew any French speakers, I would send them this video. Good find! And very well summarized. Mercí.
I like your analysis. But, why wouldn't the MSM machine roast him about this? Why are the war hawks seemingly appeased?
How would they do that ? By telling the truth ? They are stuck. They cannot call him weak, or TACO now, and they cannot call him a warmonger since it was a very short operation and he called for peace. And I think the one who should be the most furious is Netanhyaou, since he cannot use any excuse now to continue attacking Iran to create the "Greater Israel".
if he do, he will turn whole world MORE against them, as the world is not silent anymore, nobody cares about Holo... stuff but everybody cares about needles dying of children and total Gaza destruction. it is quite visible in all circles.
No, just a small minority of racists like yourself. A level of Q has swept the world, but you’ve always been wrong about Israel and where both God and Trump stand on the matter ☺️
like you know Trump's or God's stance. Blasphemy ! Also you try to trick the almighty God with chickens, sacrificing and eating them blaming them for your misdeeds. Is it working for you? Modern poisoning of the wellss > Moderna , AZ, Pfizer Modern Children sacrifice > child predation and Gaza Modern opening the gates of Toledo > Massive lawless importing of migrants to US UK and EU. Say it isn't so ?
You lost. Get over it.
Never. Until last. You know who you fear the most. My people are one of them.
No power money or worlds can stop us now when we are awake.
Because the narrative of “Yahweh hates Israel, Trump is liberating terrorist nations from themselves” does not comport with reality. This is nothing more than a push of the goalpost to satisfy the anger and soften the insanity of people who want Israel to be destroyed. I liken them to the people being deported by Trump and Homan for terrorizing the U.S./Jewish college students and U.S. campuses overall with defeated Iran propaganda. They’ll likely never admit it here, but they would fund those terrorists to regain entry to the U.S. just to perpetuate a racist narrative and appease their own agenda ☺️ meanwhile, Trump continues stomping out their narrative by bombing Iran (as they deserve to be).
FYI YHWH is Israel. They BOTH are the same entity; Saturn.
Excellent. ThankQ
This is only partially accurate, but not in the way that supports the above statement and the overall message:
https://www.jfeed.com/news-israel/trump-iran-airstrike-operation-midnight-hammer
SO.......IDK........
If the strikes aren't real and "just for show", why does israel applaud them and/or take them seriously??
This.
Israel could simply say "Your bombs didn't penetrate deep enough"
If our bombs weren't good enough, why did they publicly say they needed our bombs?
If you destroy the ways in and out of a bunker, it is effectively destroyed. If you destroy the air handling it becomes uninhabitable. So, if that was the goal then President Trump succeeded.
What good is it if you can no longer get to it? Even if it's fully intact it's no good.
I think I heard someone say,
Data (like 3 TB on DVDs) might survive. SEALING the gates keeps the rats out.
If there really was uranium still there, it would be uninhabitable. Even if there wasn't, the Iranians wouldn't have been able to remove the equipment that was processing the uranium - and they are radioactive as well.
It seems to me that the Trump detractors have to find a new rhetorical approach to diminish this great achievement because if they don't they're left with egg on their faces.
Plane fags, were the transponders on?
They would only be on for misdirection, not for OpSec. But if they were on for deception, that would be pretty obvious, I think.
Maybe the B-2s that went to Guam were there as a way to keep Xi from thinking about any funny ideas about Taiwan while Trump was dealing with Iran.
🕳️🕳️🕳️🕳️🕳️🕳️🕳️🕳️ 📣 don’t listen to Trump, we’re actually winning
Check out how what is Happening with Iran with what is going on in China. 40% of its oil comes from Iran. Economically the tariffs from the US and EU have devastated their economy. A large decrease in Chinese population (estimates about 400 million missing Chinese) now, and a loss of 40% of their oil supply has them in a decline…..the CCP is desperate!
I saw a youtube video a month or 2 about China's devastation from the tariffs - and from COVID. The moderator also put blame on the Chinese people that buy multiple houses/apartments but only use one of them. I believe she said the Chinese don't have all of the wealth storage options free countries have so they put their money in houses. I think that also gets them some sort of subsidies as well because with 3 houses a family of 4 becomes 12 people (4 in each house).
What that ends up doing is tricking the system to think there are 100s of millions more people than they really are. There are statistics out there that say China has somewhere between 400 and 600 million real people.
With these things (COVID, tariffs, and real estate gaming) they are slowly destroying China from within. Schools and other infrastructure are being built for the "ghost people". More welfare is given to counteract the people starving from poor locally-grown food, bad agriculture, and no jobs. There are housing shortages because of the people gaming the system - and because of their big real-estate companies not being able to meet their debt payments. Now they aren't getting the USAID and other US scams that ran wild under the demons. They can't just turn their manufacturing from export to local use because their people (for the most part) can't afford the prices (even if discounted) and don't have jobs to give them enough money to even buy it.
I just wonder if the "Xi is being isolated so he can be fired" talk is all fake. As many of us believe Trump could be working with Putin and Xi, I could conceivably see another Trump "production" where Xi comes out and asks for peace and agrees to play nice. Meaning no more currency manipulation, Taiwan becomes recognized by the UN and the rest of the world, we become allies first with Taiwan, and then China itself, Both nations wipe each other's debt (China still owes us from WWII, and with interest it is likely $2T by now) and we strengthen our trading ties. The CCP will disappear, like the USSR broke up - and the world will probably help stabilize the new China.
Think about it. Trump solidified ties with Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, and some other nations this term. He stopped a war in Africa, one in the Middle East, and one in Asia (Pakistan and India) and it's only June. He got NATO to push for %5 of each country's GDP for NATO dues and Article 5 protection. He exposed the South African President to the world. He appears to be moving at lightning speed across the world to fix the problem areas - while also fixing our issues as well, and it is becoming easier to see for everyone.
China is the big dog. We depend on them for a TON of stuff we need to survive and even defend ourselves. They do the same with us. I think he may just be telling all these world leaders that if MAGA is ever out of power and we get another Obama, Biden, or Bush-like POTUS they could certainly go all George Bush/Axis of Evil and destroy both countries just by severing trade and locking them out. It works for Trump because he isn't threatening to do that to them - he is reminding them of the neocons and/or the communists that will eventually cheat their way back in.
If Trump, Xi, and Putin are working together, it really fits well with the Q drops, like "sometimes you can't tell them - you have to show them" (paraphrasing here), or "you're watching a movie" or likely a bunch of other stuff I'm leaving out. Trump is bringing world peace and solving centuries old problems, and I think China and Russia are next. Look for Russia/Ukraine to have a peace deal soon. Who knows - maybe China will happen first, although I think he may deal with Brazil and their corrupt Supreme Court and communist president that stole the Presidency from Bolsonaro.
Got sauce for that?