Forgive me if this sounds like its in bad taste or crass. I didn't particularly like the man (too pro Israel for me) but it's horrible what's happened to him and his family. HOWEVER, I try to look at most thinks objectively and not let my personal emotions get into it when I ponder and think about large events like this.
Here's my two cents on the topic, while trying to maintain that objective, not overly emotional viewpoint.
The left is dead. It's been on life support for a while now, but now its dead. That's clear to everyone who can read. They've been losing support for years now, and even their cheating wasn't doing it anymore in most places. But now they're dead.
They've lost ANY support they had from the middle ground. I'm not talking about conservatives or even moderate liberals. I'm talking about the apolitical independents who make up the OVERWHELMING majority of people. Let's be real, most people ARE apolitical and don't care about politics. They vote based on one or two issues every election and whoever fits their desires best regardless of party.
Those people are now absolutely disgusted with the left.
Looking at twitter, newsfeed comments, forums (beyond here) etc. Basically everywhere but reddit (which is a liberal shithole) the consensus is the same. Democrats are officially a terrorist organization in the same vein as a third world dictator. They've opened up the door to assassination culture when they tried to kill Trump multiple times, but thankfully if failed each time.
This time they succeeded, and I truly believe this is "the shot heard round the world" that will be the death of the democrat party. They have fully embraced political assassination as a legitimate means of dealing with opposition. And normal people will not tolerate this.
I of course don't KNOW this for certain, but I've seen and read many people calling for the DNC to be labeled a terrorist organization after this, and that MAY actually end up happening. It appears we're slowly drifting towards that anyway.
I've long said that we as a culture are rapidly swinging further and further to the right. And the longer this goes on, the more I'm convinced we may end up actually far right. Not as in a fourth reich type of sense, but in that the pendelum is gonna swing so far right that normal people will be radicalized in the exact opposite direction the cabal wants in order to achieve things that are currently uconstitutional. Like banning islam, mass deporting muslims regardless of citizenship status, banning gay propaganda, banning socialist and communist propaganda, etc.
Regardless of your personal feelings on this stuff, people are just tired of this crap. You can debate about Christian nationalism and theocracy all you want, both of those are up in the air as to whether we'd end up THAT far right. I'm PERSONALLY not opposed to it, but I can see how it would be a slippery slope in the OTHER direction, and why some wouldn't want it. Which is why I don't have a strong opinion on it.
But the point is this. The left has officially embraced political assassination as a legitimate means of dealing with political opposition. Combine that with DECADES of aggressive tension buildup over the gay and trans shit, religious and political persecution, stealing our wealth, actively trying to replace us with third worlders, and actively making the average person's life as miserable as possible, and well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see where I'm going here.
The left is dead, and I highly suspect when this is over we'll have two "right wing" parties that are basically far right vs moderate right because of how far normal people have been pushed. What happened to Charlie is awful, but I legitimately wouldn't be surprised if this is the "shot heard round the world" that Q mentioned. We all thought it was Trump, but the amount of outrage, disgust, revilement, and call to action I'm seeing from NORMAL APOLITICAL people both online and IRL is honestly astounding and leads me to believe this is a turning point for society as a whole.
Historically speaking, political assassinations DO tend to signal some kind of turning point in whatever society they take place in. I'd imagine this will follow that trend
Well put. I was just expressing similar conversations to my wife. The nature of the incident was insanely graphic, causing much more of an emotional response. This will reach the ends of the earth. I am a fan of Charlie, I watched his content on a daily basis. But this has spiritual, societal, and geopolitical implications that we may never fully understand. RIP Charlie Kirk
That video should be required viewing as a reminder of what happens when you abuse your power in media and try to portray those you disagree with as Nazis/Facists/evil etc
You drive people to feel justified in murdering an innocent political commentator, a father, a human being. I pray this sparks some kind of change
I agree with your point.
However, until they prove otherwise, my working assumption is that this was a professional hit, and not some crazy old man with his pants around his ankles.
The media always pushes a fake narrative right away. That's how you know its planned.
I would advise forcing the left to watch that video, A Clockwork Orange style if need be.
They should be made to see what their rhetoric has caused.
You are making the assumption that they would care. They are so jaded and hard hearted there will be no affect.
This is a fantastic post. Thank you for your thoughts.
I can’t escape the feeling that the destruction of the left has been purposely orchestrated. I’m not sure even the Dems are this stupid. Perhaps the NWO gang is normalizing the non-existence of a two-party system. They want us to scream, “This isn’t working!” So they dehumanize the Dems so we will reject them. So much of what they do is leaked to us, advertised, replayed over and over…on purpose.
Let’s just clarify things a bit. The left has now OPENLY embraced political assassination. They have been hiding it for YEARS under the guise of school shootings. I think they have mistakenly thought this would be viewed the same.
You misspelled "decades"
Yes, indeed and only with our persistence have we understood the truth.
I see people saying that "The left has now OPENLY embraced political assassination", but I don't remember them openly saying that. Did I miss something?
I know that MSNBC was saying bulls##t like "maybe it was a fan who brought a gun" or something along those lines. That is sick and demonic s##t to be saying. But are we considering that an open admission?
I'm genuinely curious, did I miss something?
The people you can see on reddit, in comments on youtube, twitter, etc. who're VERY openly left wing are basically celebrating his death. Not sure how else you'd take that other than a full on embrace of political assassination.
Liberals openly celebrating someone's political assassination isn't good optics no matter how you spin and can't really be taken any other way other than they accept and embrace it.
Oh, well yea of course normies are going to celebrate it. I'm talking media and official messaging.
Well several people have already been fired over this. There was just a post made about some political commentator being fired from MSNBC over it. But the point is less about some "official messaging" and more the people who're VERY openly liberal projecting "this is what the democrat party stands for and supports".
I can't be bothered to start listing off influencers, but that's more who we're talking about. The average person doesn't care that much or know about many politicians beyond the president, and maybe their state governor. But a lot of them DO have some passing knowledge of political influencers simply by virtue of seeing or hearing them in passing on social media when they do something viral.
For example, in my research while leading up to this post, you could find all kinds of examples. Here's one I book marked that got deleted by the mods on reddit because they're all retarded (even on the asmongold sub): https://www.reddit.com/r/Asmongold/comments/1ndrqf6/removed_by_moderator/
The original title of the post (before it was deleted) Was Hassan Piker (a well known far left extremist influencer) saying Charlie Kirk's death was his own fault and there was a bunch of clips from his stream that I can't find anywhere else now (probably deleted it from backlash or privated it), doing nothing but badmouthing Charlie and talking about how he deserved it while praising the assassin.
I reckon now he's trying to do damage control on instagram and other social media, but this was his initial reaction and it's not just him. ALL of those stupid breadtubers (the term for liberal political youtubers) and liberal influencers ALL had similar takes and their retarded followers and subscribers parroted them.
Then they all went viral for being vile scum of the earth for showing open acceptance of political assassination, and here we are. Normies now associate the left with open political assassination.
It doesn't help matters that democrats in actual government are, while not openly praising the killer, are being massive shitbags about it. Like when they tried to have a moment of silence in congress for Charlie and the liberals kept booing and making noise instead, of which there IS still video of and was posted on here at some point.
Yes, you missed something.
Thanks for pointing it out (I'm rolling my eyes IRL)
Shouldn’t have been Charlie. 😞
He didn't deserve to die for debating college kids
Me too man, shits horrible
She was in the tent I read. The kids too.
When he was assassinated? Oh lordy, I truly hope that's wrong. That just compounds the horribleness of the day.
It would have been a miracle if he survived, he would have definitely been a future President.
My EXACT thoughts as well. Charlie had a YUGE future ahead of him...
I would've voted for him if he made it that far
I don’t think we can promote donations here.
Turning Point USA. No reason.
Please remove this comment if needed. 🥺
Shot heard around the world.
Charlie Kirk’s death was a political assassination.
today's Q Delta 2134
Anonymous 09/10/2018 16:29:13 ID:0bd9b8
Buckle up, buttercups - it's about to get bumpy!
I agree with everything apart from your implication that the third reich was a right wing movement. It was not. It was a centralized, top-down government by the central planners. There was nothing right-wing about it
Facism and Communism are both left wing ideologies
100%!
Technically Fascism IS right wing, but when you get to the extreme end of either political ideology the differences are basically semantical. The main difference was in communism you owned nothing, while in fascism you DID own everything, but you still had to comply with government quotas and the like.
There's other small differences, like communism being collectivist and fascism being individualist but nationalist, but as far as functional purposes go, they operate quite similar at a macro level. Fascism is marginally (and I DO mean marginally) better if you can actually get it to work, but pretty much every fascist government to ever exist was a cult of personality rather than an actual government. The absolute closest example of a working fascist government would have been Rome during the time of Triumvirate council where power was held by three people instead of a single dictator, but this is all just semantics.
My main point with the political shift rightward was that we have to manage this VERY carefully in order to avoid the rise of a fascist faction in various western nations. That's my main worry, since I don't trust anyone in power enough to hand them near absolute authority
I am a very elderly lady now, and my beloved husband is now deceased... but back about 1966 when we were "courting" as they used to say, we talked one beautiful spring day as we walked in Mill Creek Park, Youngstown Ohio.
He responded to one of my questions about why we seemed to be going the wrong way (back in the days of protesting all over campuses, down south, etc...
He told me that people seem to all fall off one side of the horse at a certain point in time... then, recognizing their error, they would then decide to correct the error, but then go too far, and fall off the horse on the other side.
We were not that serious, just wondering about how/why those "current events" were turning so darkly rebellious, and then what might be the result.
I think you are right about the potential for a harsh and equally over-reaction amounting to a similar quagmire. This is the Forth Turning. We may not make it this time without our collapse into anarchy, and I then think of the poem.
"On Dover Beach".
Fascism is a left wing thing. It is enforced via large government, which is the opposite of right wing.
Fascism is not even close to individualist. Anyone who has actually read the writings of fascist philosophers like Benito Mussolini or Giovanni Gentile would never say that. Syndicalist ideologies have labor unions own the means of production. The Republic of Salo was even more socialist.
Furthermore, the Roman Triumvirate wasn't fascist since fascism wasn't invented until the 1900s.
"Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state” -Benito Mussolini
Doesn't sound very right wing to me.
The true political spectrum is sump'n like...
Fascist Communist Socialist Democrat Moderate Republican Libertarian Anarchist
Total Government Control to Zero Government Control
This.
People dont understand right vs left. They are philosophies, not policies. Right wing is oriented around hierarchy and competence (might is right), while left wing is fairness and welfare (from each ability to each need). Fascism is government enforcement of the right wing. Fascism only exists as a counter to communism (government enforcement of the left wing, which does not work on a societal level, but excels at establishing itself in a liberal setting)
Both are celebrating Charlie's death. Ukrainian nazi telegram is absolutely ecstatic right now.
This.
NAZI National SOCIALIST Workers Party.
Turning Point USA
I fear this will embolden the left. They're already crazy and may take this as inspiration for further acts of violence. I don't think it matters if anyone else thinks their party is dead as long as they think that continuing to fight will further their cause. These are communists. They don't think like normal people.
I think that will depend on whether they achieve the outcome they were looking for. The key is to not go the direction where they are trying to drive us - more violence and hate. Yes, we are heartbroken and horrified. But if we refuse to react in the way they thought we would and don't take the bait, the only thing they accomplish is being further alienated and kicked to the curb by more Americans that see them for what they are. We are much further along in that process than we were even 5 or 6 years ago. So, the tide is turning and we must stay the course - just like Charlie would.
Exactly.
Add to the mix that many are (literally) mentally ill and may soon find out they have a “condition” from the jabs and they have nothing left to lose.
Strapped with heads on a swivel anons.
Good post. I kinda needed something like this to help me process today's events. It still doesn't make it right what happened but we know the DS doesn't care who they take out.
What they had already done did not allow them to have a "take a it easy and we will see what happens" approach. It was serious from day 1 with Trump because they knew the old arrangements were no longer in place. They tried everything else they could think of and nothing worked, and they had to keep elevating their actions. So here they are, with no defense against what they have done. This the level of desperation they have reached....and as you said, in the public eye, they don't have anywhere lower to go.
Well said fren.
Great read fren! Truth is tough to handle at times, but necessary.
Sometimes it takes a big kick in the head to open someones eyes. If this doesn't do it, you're the enemy.
Great post, Cathole. I suspect this is dead on.
I was like, "Did he just call him...? Oh... okay I see now" 😵💫😵💫😵💫
LOL
Interesting. I can't say you're wrong. 🇺🇲
"The shot heard round the world" is accurate
Interesting Far Right and Moderate Right, would be a good description of the GOP and Dems in the late 1950's before the JFK assassination.
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Good one! 👏
Or are we watching "a movie?"
Is Kirk dead?
Is Epstein?
If you look at the Twitter footage there are 3 people giving weird signals immediately preceding the shot. Two were on the stage with Kirk. You have to slow it down, but it's very obvious. White hat guy (!), man in black, and then white shirt guy in the stands.
Excellent post. I don't think you realize just how right you are cathole953.
Charlie Kirk's murder was Q559, Q560, & Q572
"THE SHOT HEARD AROUND THE WORLD."
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It's going to prove to be a pivotal, galvanizing event.
Mathematically impossible.
If this was the shot heard round the world, that would imply they knew this was going to happen. And they let it? Would that not be just as bad as the left who knowingly sacrifice their people and the public for their agendas?
I am with you, was not a big fan but it is horrible what happened. I would at least hear him out on the things he'd say which most of it is accurate and I do agree with but too pro-Israel for me too and 7 mountainy for me. But that is zero reason for violence or death.
To me, lately it really feels like something is trying to be stirred to kick off an event. Too many things are causing emotional reactions (which isn't necessarily a bad thing) but critical thinking is going out the door for some of it. It's been definitely building to a point. Lord help us all.
Well I really have no explanation for this kind of thing that will satisfy anyone, but I'm a realist. This IS a war, and sometimes, sacrifices have to be made to win. It sucks, and I REALLY wish it wasn't so, but reality sucks sometimes.
Assuming I AM right, then yeah, that means they knew about it ahead of time and did nothing, which sucks, but if it's a strategic move to bring down the entire cabal then in the grand scheme of things, a single life compared to the nuclear holocaust they'd have occur to wipe out all but 500 million people (remember that was their plan, cull the population to 500 million) is a "small" but unfortunate price to pay from a pragmatic viewpoint.
Like I said, I don't like it, and I don't even know if I'm right, but tough decisions we don't like HAVE to be made at some point. This may have been one of them. I have this conversation semi-often with my family as several of them have a hard time with this topic just like you apparently do. And I don't really have a satisfactory answer other than what I said.
Sometimes, people die in war. It sucks, but one life for billions is a decision that leaders have to make sometimes when the threat of a nuclear holocaust is hovering overhead.
Regardless, I'm with you on the last point. It's obvious to everyone paying attention that SOMETHING HUGE is being built up to. The last several months in particular have just had that eerie "feeling" that something is coming about them.
We are at war and there will be casualties. Sad, but true. It seems most of the world right now is operating in emotional overdrive with things kicking off all over. Like most unrest, I have no doubt that much of it is being orchestrated. Therefore, we must not play their game and simply stay the course. They are desperate and desperation will make mistakes.
if this is NOT a turning point then i don't believe theres any event that will rile up conservatives.
We are riled up and have been for a very long time. We’re just decent law-abiding citizens, and we I’ll fight with the law on our side.
We WILL defend each other, but we will NOT stoop to their level (aka “riled up” to violence).
If the left wanted to maintain their power they would have dropped the charade and moved closer to the center, but they have always remained steadfast to nurture their paramilitary force. Now the veil has been lifted where it would be would be near impossible to win an election, they are still a major threat to peace and that can only be dealt with a boot over their neck.
This was exactly my thought a couple hours after it happened. One single shot. Whoever the shooter was only took one single shot. He didn't start shooting into the crowd. Charlie was his target. He got him in one shot. One shot heard around the world. One single shot heard around the world. You're right. This is truly that shot.
I can't escape how precise this shot was. This was not done by some rando who just bought a gun. Even with a rifle at 200 yards with a scope, if you've never shot a gun before it would be easy to miss. But this shooter got him right in his neck. His target was likely Charlie's head, and he missed by small margin. This was not an amateur or first-time shooter. Whoever did this knew what they were doing. They knew they only needed one shot, even if they missed his head they knew they could easily target the rest of his body.
The question now is whether this was a lone actor, the usual narrative, or was this a more coordinated effort - like Trump's assassination attempt. Unfortunately, we, the public, may never know.
Even the Misinformation Shopping Network is trying to save their bacon:
There's no such thing as the perfect conservative. Some of us are socially liberal. Some of us are hard almost extremist fundamentalist. A lot of us are in the middle. But ultimately what makes conservatism what it is comes down to we all truly believe and would die for the ideal and promise of America. So while our views may not always overlap we will always come together and put God and country first
Shot heard around the world?
Definition of fascism.
What do we mean that this is the shot heard round the world that Q mentioned? Didnt Q say that a long time go? Is Q a psychic? Unless youre making the case that Q has some God-like supernatural foreknowledge of specific events in history, then that statement is nonsense. Im not trying to be mean its just doesnt make sense
.......That's like, 90% of what Q does? Predict things years in advance with scarily accurate detail? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not a shill or troll, but that's literally Q's thing.
Im not…sincerely curious how do we know that those things are predicting THIS event and if so how is Q able to do it? Isnt it confirmed Q is human or a team of humans?
Dude, you obviously missed 2017-2022 when Q was posting live. You have to read the source material of any subject if you want to try to understand anything. Read the Q drops from beginning to end and stop trying to get someone else's interpretation. Everyone is doing their best to understand how to survive this WW3 situation we are in.
Well I said that's MY belief, I could be wrong. And no it was never confirmed WHAT Q was. There's all kinds of theories and it's a whole rabbithole.
Off the top of my head, here's some of the theories I can remember (not a comprehensive list mind you, you'd be better off asking this in your own post and getting some of the OLD anons to answer for a comprehensive list. The VOAT guys are in a class of their own when it comes to esoteric Q knowledge):
An advanced AI that runs off of a Quantum computer (meaning it can predict the future accurately using quantum string theory and chaos theory)
A literal time traveler using a stargate to travel back and forth from the future
A team of people using Some kind of esoteric advanced technology of unknown composition or mechanism that allows them to see into the future and how certain events will change the future (look up project looking glass to go down this rabbit hole further)
Literally God or a prophet like in the old testament giving literal prophetic predictions divinely inspired by God.
Personally I think it's either all of them but the time traveler one are feasible to SOME extent or another. But ultimately none of us KNOW what Q actually was at this point. The literal only thing we have to go off of, is that in one post Q said we would never believe who/what we're talking to when talking to them.
Other than that, we have no hints.
As to the Q team -
From Q drop #244
Dec 01, 2017 12:38:08 AM EST
"Less than 10 can confirm me
. . .
Q"
From Q drop #60
Nov 02, 2017 7:03:36 PM EDT
"You can count the people who have
the full picture on two hands.
Of those (less than 10 people) only
three are non-military.
Why is this relevant?
Game theory.
Outside of a potential operator who
has been dialed-in w/ orders (specific
to his/her mission) nobody else has
this information.
Operators never divulge.
Alice & Wonderland.
Q"
https://qalerts.app/?q=%23%2360%7C%23%23244
We’re not sure exactly how but there have been speculations of Operation Looking Glass which can supposedly show possibilities for the future, or a super intelligence extrapolating trillions of current vectors to calculate how they’ll interact, or President Ttump’s uncle who came into possession of Nikola Tesla’s reports of secret time travel experiments, or something to do with Ingersoll Lockwood and the stories of Baron Trump from one hundred years ago, or that maybe the Q team are just very careful planners with layers of contingencies and a cast of thousands including Kirk who just faked his death as part of the Plan. “What makes a good movie? Good actors.” I don’t know but some of the proofs and deltas get eery.
Shot heard around the world indeed... the real storm is almost here. Buckle up, I think this Christmas is THE Christmas.
I hope so. Even their most brainwashed appear to be waking up.
I agree, also. This is hitting hard, everywhere, even with people I did not expect. Every walk of life. Everyone touched by this. I do believe this is an actual Turning Point, which is very fitting. RIP Charlie, I know you are with the Lord!!!
The left is supposed to be anti-gun, but guess what they use for assassinations?
Only when it suits their agenda.
I believe you are correct in thinking a big change will come from this. My mom is devastated about this, said she feels like its jfk again. Not exactly comparable but still very devastating. The sane will be sad or share no opinion. The insane will be mocking. Lines will be moved and redrawn.
Thank you and certainly I hope you are right because The bad evildoers are always getting away with killings and horrible things that are happening to USA and the world. I wonder when Jesus will come back.?
That turning point happens when people turn back to Christ. Its what kirk would want. Making him thr martyr would not be what he wants. Make known Christ as charlie did if you want to honor him.