So, I went to visit my parents after almost a year of them refusing physical visits. They now feel somewhat safe. My dad decides to start trashing Trump. He was spitting out every lie that we've seen shared by CNN/MSNBC/ fake news. He claimed that there was no voter fraud, no antifa at the capital and that the Proud Boys are the ones who burned down cities last year and that BLM was trying to protect their communities. He then went on a rant that I shouldn't have a right to say anything because I didn't vote when I was 24 years old. He made the ridiculous statement that we came SO close to losing our Democracy. My son and I sadly got up and quietly walked out from the visit. My parents are lost. They spent the last 4 years being programmed and there is no hope. They have been lied to so much that no amount of "proof" will change their minds.
My parents are gone, I've lost them.....
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Sneak over there at night and cut their cable.
Parents are people too. Subject to the same shortcomings and weaknesses. It may be sad to have to love them while they are in this state - but as a parent you have the next generation to focus on. Blessings fren.
haha, and I was going to say the same thing about the younger gen.
Boomer.... grew up believing that you should Trust No One! Government is bad and they are out to screw you out of your money. My Dad was in WWII, and that's where I learned it. During Vietnam, we had perfect screenshot of how we had been lied to by the media/govt.
what happened?
The media turned against Vietnam so although it would appear that people were skeptical of war and corruption and government, they were actually just following the media. There isn’t much philosophical or strategic difference between the Korean War and the Vietnam War, yet the Vietnam War is constantly bashed and the Korean War never is. That suggests people aren’t really thinking for themselves. If the media had presented Vietnam as a rah rah patriotic war, then I think most of these people would view it as that. This even continued through into the ‘80s and ‘90s when every Hollywood movie depicted Vietnam as a shitshow and a failure. Are there any Hollywood movies presenting the Korean War like that?
My parents are boomers. It’s a two-fold problem with them. They are naturally skeptical, and extremely conservative. But they still believe the tv.
I think they know something’s wrong..... but they don’t want to seem they’ve lost their senses.
The second issue is, at least for MY parents, is that they never really retired. They went from working 40 hours a week paid, to 40 hours a week unpaid, volunteering at the church (cleaners), helping neighbors, making day trips to visit and help family and get them dr appts, cut their grass- whatever.
This is first chance they’ve had to rest, since they were about 10 years old.
So I just try not to bother them. They voted for Trump, but are scared to death of CV. I have expressed my concern and stated I wouldn’t take the vaccine, and my mom told me they were old enough to feel comfortable risking it.
SOOOOO- I just really respect them. They’ve done right their entire life. (Didn’t even get a phone that could text until last year.... and they share it, but still pay by the month)
Luckily they don’t press me, and I don’t press them. I genuinely feel sorry for anyone in that situation.
You make great points without bashing boomers for once. It's true I grew up listening to Walter Cronkite (and that's the way it is) and we hung one every word. Was it all truth? I know now it probably wasn't, but it certainly wasn't like it is now. There are certainly boomers asleep but so are many millennials. Many boomers have managed to learn the technology. But what we have is experience that is passed on to the next generation because we lived it and we can see the frog in the pot progression over the decades.
The wild west that was the internet in my preteens and early teens has been consolidated and swallowed up by mega corporations.
Even good meaning people who try to research hop on google and get swarmed with MSM.
I would say it is unfair to lump an entire generation in to one stereotype. Younger Millennials might act the way that you are describing but older Millennials do not. The current age range for Millennials is 25 - 40 and they are the ones raising the "more based" zoomers that you are thankful for.
In my personal experience it is Boomers and Gen-X that are more brainwashed and follow the leftist agenda. I live in the south so the Boomers are old school democrats that "vote blue no matter who". They were born democrats and they will die democrats. The Gen-X crowd are more in line with the ideals of Bernie Sanders/AOC. They believe in socialist programs and that we must save the world from climate change.
I myself am an older Millennial (36 years old) and a diehard conservative. I am raising a zoomer (14 years old) and fight everyday to keep the media/school system from trying to program him with they propaganda.
Sorry but 1981 - 1994 are Millennials. So if you are currently 40 and will be 41 this year you are Gen-X but if you turn 40 in 2021 you are a Millennial.
Our youngest child is a millennial and you are so right. He thinks we are the dumbest people he knows. We invest in gold, Siler, platinum, us energy etc and he is into cryptocurrancy and video games. We get along great and let's see who comes out ahead. Grandkids are better.
Maybe because generally the hippies did drugs and the Elvis gen. did not.
I've done a lot of drugs and Ive always been based outside of a few years in college. Those "human intercultural relations" forced courses and how the SJW infiltrates even courses that have nothing to do with sociology really do a number.
You start off spouting the talking points to get the A, and 5 classes a week for 4 years, particularly in certain fields....tell a lie enough it becomes truth.
After events like JFK 9/11 and the Iraq War how can anyone trust the MSM? Not even including all the slanted bias with Trump and conservatives
This process can be called "zombification" by now. The Mainstream Propaganda Media are turning humans into mindless, useless drones.
The zombie craze of recent years was our predictive programming. I think it's gonna be pharma that does the zombification too.. I mean, already happening wirh the numbed up non-feeling people walking around on antidepressants.
I was on antidepressants a few months, after my first suicide attempt. I realized I'd rather feel sad than not feel at all.
It felt like I was on pause and the world was passing me by.
I'm much better now, still get episodes but over the years the duration has decreased and the severity has as well. It helps to have an outlet of people where I know I'm not alone and crazy in a sea of liberalism that surrounds me.
I have felt for a long time that the invasion of the body snatchers happened in the 60s and the Pod Peeps have come into their own...
My parents think im nuts when i go off about the amount if meds their docs put them on. My dad has some lung & heart issues so needs more but still. They never ever mention to them anything else they could also do that doesnt involve meds.
Exactly....the f'n statins
Whats wrong with people that some companies can take control of their lives? Askin for a friend
Sorry to hear it.
You did the right thing. For them to say you have no right to say anything is abusive to both you and your son.
"We almost lost our democracy!"
"You don't have the right ..."
Sorry fren, but this is peak stupidity.
In my area there were videos of middle aged white men starting the fires and breaking windows. Agents of some sort were responsible for starting at least some BLM riots. Not sure if black or white hat.
I recall one of the first videos out of Minneapolis showing a white guy breaking windows of an auto parts store, people yelling he was 'police'.
Seems like there were at times more whites than blacks rioting FOR blm...that still makes it blm. And antifa has a very white presence.
But there is something about the 'presence' of all these groups that usually make it possible to distinguish one from another.
That Auto Zone hammer weilding phony WAS an off-duty police officer.
Yes! Do NOT cave to their verbal and mental abuse!
I feel your pain. My parents (80) spent the entire 2020 in a vacuum sealed house glued to CNN and the local liars, curled up in a ball scared as shit..."trusting the science". If CNN told them to go to their bedroom and off their selves, they absolutely would. I rarely speak with them. #1, they talk in headline speak. #2, I can promise you, if they knew about me and my faith in Q, they'd be calling every law enforcement agency they could find to "turn him in". My parents were good conservative people....now they are basically dead, brain dead zombies.
"headline speak" I love that. Might have to steal it. :D
I keep a low profile with my family members. "Qanon? What even is that??" lol (so they don't "turn me in" also. Big brother is literally big brother).
LOL, I'm just happy to hear someone else experiences that!!!
I'm surprised my parents haven't turned me in yet, LOL.
my inlaws.....perfect way to describe it. 'They talk in headline speak' and get upset and hang up on you if you contradict the fauci/cdc/who/gates outline for life.
I feel your pain, too. My own dad, 73, threatened to call my husband's employer and CDC because he was around someone with COVID but refused to get tested. A while back he texted me when Q first made headlines, and asked me if I was a member. I simply replied I had never heard of Q.
Dang, that's a rough one. It will be interesting, after all the dust settles, to see if they wake up or die in denial. My wife and I talk about this almost everyday. It's distressing as hell, but not within our control. We just pray for the best and prepare for the worst. Take care.
That's dark.
Often times the truth of this world, at this moment, is very dark. Hence, why we hope to see a crap ton more light soon. Hopefully my parents see it, if not, then I’ll cross that bridge when I get there.
Somethimes you must SHOW them the TRUTH, not TELL them.
I fear they're they're part of the 4-6%
I know how you feel, fren. My parents spent their careers in media here in DC and they are so over the top loony, you can't fathom. I stopped discussing anything remotely political a few years ago, because I didn't want to damage the relationship (and my inheritance) any further. My father once yelled at me to stop jamming facts down his throat - a mathematician said this. Full blown TDS.
I'm confident they will be in the 4-6% group. Let them get their vax. My mom can coddle her Fauci bobblehead (literally). My father can play with his fucking cats. I really don't care any more. And when the time comes, they'll get My Pillow to the face....J/K ; )
My in laws are very wealthy - I will let the inheritance burn and show them who I am and what I believe in. No amount of money in the world will Trump the plans that God has in store for me ?? God bless you patriot
Sorry...I had to laugh? ?
I’m pretty sure some of my in laws are as well, they PRAISE the vaccine and the crap for brains moron they chose to support. I’m not sure anything will wake them up :(
It’s way higher than. 4-6%. At least 35% in my opinion.
I live in an area that's jam-packed with goners. I feel the numbers are much higher than 4-6%. It must be sad to find out your parents are unreachable. Smart, kind, good people can be brainwashed just as easily as morons.
My parents are the same, however, things are changing.....my mother was a librarian.....She's starting to wake up with the Dr. Seuss fiasco lol !! There is hope yet....if the Bible gets banned it is GAME ON. My dad sent me a pic of the silver coins he's been collecting so he's been listening to me rant about the Trillions of dollars spent in the last year.....can you say hyperinflation anyone.
They are coming around fren
I'm at the point where I dare the libs to ban the Bible....I think Game On....if that doesn't wake everyone up what will? I can think of some pretty horrible things that might wake everyone up but banning the Bible would do it to the masses and its something we can fix.....it would not be tolerated and if it is tolerated then we deserve what we get.
Bring it on, exactly. Watch the fury of God fill our bodies with the force of a billion men.
We'll need it ....China has a few billion to spare
China has a few satanic demonic entities at the top of their evil regime that have been keeping their poor people under communism for so long. They don’t have a billion people with them. They have a billion blood thirsty family loving gun hungry citizens ready for Trump to rescue them and put them in a position to reclaim their nation. They HATE the cabal, probably more than us Americans. Pray for the poor people of China...
China literally tracks the mensural cycles of their women. They will take you off the street and perform an abortion against your will and make you view the deceased body of your infant while recovering from the abortion. The women are broken when this happens - a lot of this commit suicide. They are ready for evil to leave their country.
10.4 I saw some evidence of this....hardly believe humans can do that. However, should the Red Army step foot on this soil.....behind every blade of grass brother!
The people who do this to others aren’t people, they are demons. They don’t get to be in the same category as I am. I will always fight ❤️ For God and country; and for other countries when the time comes. Its time to free the world and ascend as a united human race against demonic entities.
This is common among older folks. When they believe something, they refuse to believe anything else. Even if you prove it. Stubbornness is hard to break. They get set in their thoughts, and beliefs. It sucks, but only they can decide to research to find the truth.
Well, some of us are also experiencing millennial age adult children who may well fall into that 4-6%, and have grief from this side of the generations, too.
That is true. My daughter is a post millennial, and she is in that 4-6%. I blame the schools for pushing this crap. I am Gen X , and I think , we are the last group that got through without the nonsense they push.
Fellow Gen X'er here, and I agree!
Mom and dad sent her!
4-6% might be the biggest mistake Q has posted. It’s way higher than that.
It's far from over, thankfully.
When Trump is reinstated as president, there will be absolutely no denying that our theories were correct. What are his parents gonna do, turn around and say Biden is still president? Or that Biden will be reinstated soon? That would be too ridiculous
In this case, someone else needs to show it to them. Just love them and agree to disagree.
They call TV shows "programs" for a reason... cable TV = cabal tell-lies-vision programming.
Walked away from my family last June....Feeling pretty good about it!
sorry for your loss! we have family members too that watch nothing but tds-msm... they're gone off the deep end.... our only hope is that our movement proves victorious and that they get the slow-release redpills and eventually come back to the land of the living. evil wants a house divided... it's much easier to conquer that way.
I know somebody like that. There is NO DEPROGRAMMING. Don't waste your time. I showed them the truth and they just don't believe it.
It’s just the fear. They don’t want to be deprogrammed because if they allow any other thoughts/ideas/fact/points of view they’ll have to face up to the idea that our govt is corrupt and not acting in their best interest. That the world is as cold and evil as it is. And that is a very difficult and scary reality to face. Some of these older folks aren’t ready to set aside 60 years of belief systems even if it’s true. A comforting lie vs. a had truth.
Trump being reinstated as president will be the ultimate deprogramming.
So there are two options, either Trump gets reinstated and his parents will be deprogrammed (along with millions of other normies), or Trump doesn't get reinstated and we/Q were wrong and we get "deprogrammed" over time. Either way, God wins.
HOW DOES GOD WIN IF WE ARE WRONG AND GET "DEPROGRAMMED" I.E. KILLED OFF
Do you believe in God? Do you believe He is unstoppable? Do you believe He is in total control?
By the way, at no point did I mean 'killed off' when I said deprogrammed. By deprogrammed I mean the act of realising truths and disregarding current beliefs, which is what will happen to all the normies when Trump is reinstated.
No I don't.
I'm so sorry you had to experience that nonsense. You went to visit with good intentions and instead you watched a meltdown. So sad.
Awful to say, but I'm glad my mother is long gone. Although it would be interesting to see what she thought of this mess. Family dinners were always lively with politics. I have a lot less patience for nonsense these days.
Can you use parental controls on their cable and block CNN?
I’m sorry your mom is not with you anymore, mine gained her wings a few yrs ago, and I was going to say the same thing. Maybe God decided it was time to take them when he did to spare them from these last few years. I’ve been wondering why he needed my mom when he did, reading this thread has me wondering if this is why. So she didn’t have to see our family pulled in different directions because we disagree. Though my mom (& my sis) didn’t like Trump at all, I don’t think they voted for Hillary either. I wish mom was still here because I miss her terribly, but at same time I’m glad she didn’t have to witness this last year. My sister who is a teacher in a private school in Fl., her son, who is in college in California, also my aunt & her family live in California all listen to msm.
They believe masks work, they are taking the vaccines, well my sis is actually on the fence about the vaccine (was actually shocked by this news because how she feels about masks) but my aunt & I may not talk again for a long time because the topic of masks & vaccines came up & she got pissed. My dad is another msm nutcase (TDS) but he has a friend who isn’t and that guy can deal with my dad. He’s my dad but was never around much growing up so... don’t care really. He lives in Jersey.
My wife is a social worker. She has always said that you don't attack someone else's religion or beliefs, because it may be the only thing holding them together.
Fake news is sort of a religion. There is no evidence, no proof... the audience takes it on faith that the preachers of the main stream media fake news wouldn't lie to them.
Unfortunately, people will often violently cling to their beliefs, even though they are wrong. They can slowly change, but decompressing from brainwashing and indoctrination is uncomfortable and can be frightening to them.
Just let them be. The world will change around them... and they will slowly find ways to adapt to the changes. They may never realize how badly the fake main stream media lies have affected them, but that's OK. When the lies are removed, eventually they will find a new normal.
Unfortunately my fren I see this as a matter of the heart and I pray to Jesus that he gives them peace trues and understanding
So very sorry your parents are asleep. Gain comfort in the fact it isn’t a choice that we can influence. I never said a word about politics to my folks until one day after the election when my mom called Trump a spoiled brat.she has been locked in a nursing home for a year now. She WANTED the vaccine so she could at least leave the building. I started to respond but in mid sentence decided it just want worth it. My dad brought up politics and we actually talked. The problem is that as we were tucking him in he said “I don’t think I’m gonna sleep” I asked him why and with tears in his eyes he said “ I just can’t believe this is my country”. It broke my heart. That an 84 yo Air Force vet was in tears over this. I resolved to not say anything that would make him worry. What’s the point. I did tell him not to watch MSM. My point is that what is the point of having these discussions when we know the stress of the situation will cause them pain? They have no control over the situation and it does nothing to red pill the elderly. Let it ride. Their delusions hurt no one. We do not have to be right when it comes to causing them pain.
This is the adult response. Some people have a hard time being the adult when it relates to their parents, but it is a natural progression as they get older. At some point they become the kids. There is no reason to make their end years problematic. Tuck them in, tell them bed time stories. They don’t have long left. You will miss them when they’re gone. You will never miss a conversation about politics.
omg...you brought tears to my eyes describing what your Dad said. -USAF Vet
Thank you for your service. May the lord bless you
Thanks for sharing.. Awesome advice.
My Lovely Wife seems to be more upset that we lose Family than that we are losing Freedom and Humanity.
And we may 'never' be able to prove to them what is Reality and what is propaganda, but when enough people believe propaganda I reckon it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Those Family members who are like that may well never be saved, but our job remains the same as it has been all along; we have to help Society, normies', come to grips with Reality as it is revealed to them. You'll have to go back to your parents later, Love them and help them, it will be very hard on them, they may toy with insanity, you have to be their Rock.
We all are going to have work to do.
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Literally the same exact story for my in laws, except we won’t be taking any trips to see them when they finally feel “safe.” My husband and I had a baby in Dec 2019 and the in laws were present and around the baby - then when COVID hit, they up and abandoned my daughter. They asked us to keep face-timing and we were just like... you know what? No! Come see her in person I am not doing this!! So they have literally no relationship with my daughter, their ONLY grandchild. I wouldn’t care if they wanted to quarantine away from my husband and I; whatever right? But no, they let COVID ruin the relationship with their grandbaby. Who the fuck does that. Bridges have been burned. I pray for them to find Jesus. Please God reach those people! I can’t even stand to look at pictures of them anymore. The icing on the cake is they are avid anti Trumpers cause muh media said so and “we do our research, Trump is a hateful child imprisoning racist.”
Blame those who make and serve the poison, not those who have become addicted. Be ready for when they wake up and begin to change. Pray it will happen soon. My 2 cents. Also, a lot of kids gave their parents plenty of grief when they were kids... maybe it's just time to pay some of it back...
Maybe. Its just revolting to think they wasted this time with their granddaughter.
Agreed. I get angry at people who choose fear, because it's a horrible way to live life. But the anger is selfish, because I also miss them. I hope they all recover from fear and come back to the world, vibrant with love and opportunity. But it's a long time coming. Hopefully they come back to their senses. Your daughter will be the first to forgive them when it happens. Until then, keep hope for them in prayers. Good luck.
You are very right. She would forgive them and I would have to, too. Its hard to see in this storm right now but I am hanging on for dear life, thanks to God.
Oh totally! I have asked them. They say stupid shit like “I want to see your sources and don’t send me to any of those maga sites; or anything Q conspiracy!” You can’t win with these folks. The globalists tell the sheeple that a source isn’t bonafide unless its brand named (CNN, Snopes, BUZZFEED). The in-laws are spineless and brainless. I didn’t know this until COVID hit. I always thought they were pretty smart people. They don’t have God, thats their issue. They don’t want Him in their lives.
As far as COVID goes, they are brainwashed into believing that the science is settled. My MIL literally told me (in the middle of COVID) that Trump is responsible for small businesses closing; not the lockdowns. Give me a fucking break
Oh yeah, we have tried to just send it. They think my husband and I are idiot low IQ conspiracy theorist Trump supporters.
You might have to take the first step to mend the relationship. Pray on it. Thanks for sharing.
I know its not very godly of me but I just don’t even want to. You know? They disgust me.
I’m hearing you in stereo.
He actually believes the Proud Boys burnt down cities and BLM was protecting everyone. Man, that's just so sad, I'm so sorry to hear that.
My dad thinks that Antifa fights to preserve our republic. I am not kidding. :(
I’ll say it again...I really love your username. I raised my children to think for themselves and used to mess with their heads in comical, non-sensical ways (like Dr Suess). For example as it relates; when we were out driving if I saw a McD’s I’d say “who wants an unhappy meal”?!! Laughter always ensued. (That’s just Dad).
The only way to reach someone like this is to use this approach. Show them you understand what they believe. Then slip them the tiniest, most sugar coated red pill possible. Sincerity is mandatory. Say something like:
Sorry we argued about politics. I understand your point of view. I know you agree that crimes against children and human trafficking is something we should be united against. That’s my main political focus, the politicians who stand up against those terrible crimes. I’m just struggling with trying to understand why positive policies to stop those crimes were canceled on day one.
Maybe some day when we can agree to not argue you can help me understand why letting illegal immigrants flood into the country is a good thing. I’m confused how that can be good for them to come here and live illegally. And it’s a proven fact illegal immigration is a cover for human traffickers to sell women and children as sex slaves. Nobody can be for that, so why have policies that enable it? Sorry again that we argued.
I have no words, just empathy for you.
Sounds somewhat like my own parents except without the social distancing. My parents listened to what I had to say and then got all concerned I would be depressed after the 6th and 20th. God revealed things to me so I’m not going to back down.
Sorry, that's a hard thing to face. Be ready to gently help them if they are ready once the truth starts coming out.
It is so freaking hard. My daughter (23 years old) literally brags about being a “commie”. I homeschooled her! She literally grew up using Ron Paul curriculum. She has known about the war on information for the last ten years. We are at the point of not talking. My heart is broken. This is such an important topic, OP. Many of us are experiencing division in our families. I’m so sorry you are hurting.
Same
what changed her?
Put an iPod in her hand when she was 13.. I was not diligent about checking her web access, and I thing the internet honestly just got ahold of her in a weird way. She was raised understanding false flags, questioning the narrative of 9/11, told about architects and engineers for 9/11 truth. Now she supports blm and has totally gone off the deep end. Her Dad and I pray for her.. it’s in Gods hands.
how though?? this is important for the rest of us to understand as I thought homeschooling would be the antidote to all this, so what was the point where she became indoctrinated? This stuff doesnt happen overnight especially if you brought her up as an awakened red pilled person.
Maybe get her to read Part 2, Chapter 9 of 1984 and show her that the insidious methods the Party use in that part of the novel is exactly what the Communists are using today to subvert and gain power. She is being manipulated.
She was absolutely brought up as an awakened, red-pilled person.. when she was old enough to understand things, maybe 12, 13 and up. She was on FB, and brought up in a homeschool community, but it wasn’t news, or MSM, as MSM back then wasn’t as blatantly propaganda material back then (of course we had Obama-era press-titutes and media lapdogs but it wasn’t as bad as now, right? So I think the social pressure of social media, combined with certain music -she got into Lana Del Ray and in that time a whole sea of 14 year old girls thought it was “cool” to be depressed. (I’m certainly not baggin on depression and anxiety here, it’s just that it actually became trendy. I saw it.) And the movement of telling people they’re “compassionate” when they support democrat victim subgroups (that the Dems exploit for power) was really playing the hearts of people. She is just like me, all for justice, for truth, for compassion, but she was manipulated completely into thinking there were groups being victimized that really aren’t. Other than that I can’t say what happened, but I’m praying for God to open her eyes to truth. She says she loves God, but honestly I don’t know how you can say that and support pedo Corrupt Dems.
That's rough. It is strange to me that someone who was once very questioning and truth-seeking (red-pilled, so to speak) would turn back. Seems to be somewhat rare. Best of luck with her.
Thanks! She knows the truth. Just tryna be “woke.”
I’m lucky. My old man is a retired Navy Captain who is the definition of conservative. I also was Navy. He knows I follow Q and when he started hearing the bad press he told me(because he has Alzheimer’s setting in) he trusts me 100% in what I was telling him and would trust my every word with his mind declining. Back in the early 90’s I used to laugh at him when he would say the only way the One World Order will take over is if they break America. Can’t be done without that. Now I think how ahead of me he was. And mom. She’s going nuts with what’s happening.
God Bless your family.
Chapter 9 of 1984 explicitly tells us how The Party took over Oceania and it's exactly what is happening now. Doublethink, Blackwhite and Uncrime. Newspeak and "controlled insanity."
Orwell was clear because he knew the Communist playbook.
I can relate. I've been at war with family, but sadly I've come to the realization that no amount of proof or logic can reverse the "Fully Demoralized" state. Thankfully digging for proof I found TDW and GAW. I've also accepted that because of this, [IT HAD TO BE THIS WAY] which is why it's not going to be quick or easy. Stay strong!
My mother is the same way. She told me that c-span was a far right organization.
I'm not sure there is anything that can be done at this point.
Just goes to show that some people believe whatever they want to believe even when it's wrong, and when you show them they're wrong, then they just continue to say you're wrong.
With my parents, it's as though the truth will have to come from the same MSM that has done this to them.
Given all the MSM CEOs that have recently "stepped down" the military very well may be working to take over MSM and use it to slowly red-pill the sheeple because the MSM propaganda machine must be stopped in order to have peace
Who is taking their place is the real question.
Ditto for adult children who are snowed.
My mom absolutely worshipped Donald Trump all while growing up. She died in 2010 in a car accident, so she never got to see him as president.
I always think about how she would probably be a bigger Trump supporter pede than I am, and probably had been with Q from the beginning since she was a victim of pedophile abuse.
As long as your parents draw breath, there is hope.
She’s with you. And proud. ?
I have people like that in my family too. Sadly they think we’re the ones who are brainwashed. Prayers for them is all you can do now. Pray that somehow they start to see the truth and have discernment.
I've thought about that but I think that they are so programmed that it wouldn't matter what was shown to them. They will think it is a lie. They have formed their own reality.
ideological subversion and demoralization is not something you can come back from. I really question Q's assertion that only 4-6 per cent are lost. I'd say it's closer to 20 per cent at least.
Unfortunately there isn't much we can do OP. My dad told me he is getting the vaccine as soon as he can and he is not in great health. I was blown away because I always thought he was a smart guy but him and my mom looked at me like a crazy person when I told them how dangerous the vaccine was.
Oh I told them that it's not FDA approved and only emergency approved due to the "pandemic".
I told them they have been trying to develop coronavirus vaccines for decades but never made it past animal trials because all the animals died as soon as they were introduced to a wild virus.
I told them that healthy people are dying shortly after being vaccinated but more importantly, older people with weakened immune systems are dying at an alarming rate.
I told them that we are guinea pigs because they list it on their on website that phase 3 trials wont end until 2023.
It doesn't matter. They got mad and asked me why all the nurses in a town near aren't all dead after being vaccinated. They don't understand that the real damage won't be seen for a while still.
They looked at each other like I was nuts during all this. For some people it simply doesn't matter. When I offered to send them videos, or articles, they would not even look.
Agreed. The people complicit in this should be punished. How many people will die because of the lies they spew over and over? It's like Hitler said. Tell a lie. Keep repeating it, and eventually they will believe it.
I also mentioned the Bells Palsy, deafness, blindness, body paralysis, convulsions. Doesn't matter, they think they are "at risk" and need to get vaccinated. It's truly sad. They do watch the MSM religiously.
I have a bit of this too, but I say live and let live. They're adults and can believe what they like, if that causes them to make poor choices at the end of the day that's on them, just focus on raising your child as best as you see it and try and avoid topics that cause friction, that's what I do with my family and its ok.
Great advice
That's my brother and sister in a nutshell. It is sad. I think it would feel worse if it were parents. So glad your son is on your side! He's the future, after all.
I would have said to dad - when you get your head out of your ass and the shit out of your ears, call me.