It's a Republic and our voting system is "democratic" ("little D").
But yeah, folks say "Our Democracy" because they are liars and scoundrels trying to drag our glorious Republic beneath the waves. Fuck those people forever. In the case of "oceanside13" I don't think that is what he/she meant.
In 1787, anxious citizens awaited outside Independence Hall to hear the results of the constitutional convention. As the delegates left the building, a woman in the crowd asked , ''well,Doctor, what have we got?'' ...Without hesitation , Franklin replied, ''A REPUBLIC, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT ! ''
"Democratic" is an adjective, here. Which stands in contrast to a government by the Aristos, the Aristocracy. This is what I mean in the prior posts that we are "little D democratic".
We have a Republic. It is a Federal Republic with checks and balances that is designed to limit power in just about every way (across, up, down, etc.). In fact it is the most perfect ever formed, and I marvel at the intelligence that was employed in creating it. The system enables us to soar as individuals, yet that same system thwarts those who would enslave us. Truly amazing, and I stand in awe of the wisdom of our Founders.
Our Founders hated the idea of a Democracy, because they rightly knew that all Democracies throughout history have failed. Athens, for example. Our founders were very familiar with the histories of Athens and the other Democracies. All perished in fire of their own making.
Sic semper tyrannis.
However, our Republic is a participatory form of Republic, where the populace votes (for the Electors in the Electoral College, in the case of a President, for example). Voters vote for everything from dog catcher up to POTUS. The word in Greek for the Populace is Demos. Therefore, a government by the people, for the people, is therefore always "democratic". But is not per force a Democracy. We therefore here have a Federal Republic with democratic voting/participation (e.g. it is "democratic"), not a Democracy.
And yes, tyrants are scum. Liars are scum. Not American.
The Greeks had no constitutional oversight. They had a democratic system.
The moment that constitution comes into view and majority SCOTUS decisions are measured against that constitution, to make sure they have their principles straight, it is a republic.
The term republic comes into force, when there is a constitution, capping the rights of the more common in erasing the rights of the less common.
You can try to pretend there can be more to it, but the moment those constitutions come into play, limiting the rights of the majority, it's no longer democracy.
Even if you and every member of SCOTUS can't think of the REAL WORD, it's a representative republican model.
Not a representative democracy model, it has become a representative republic model.
Not maybe.
I know your temptation is to say ''Wayle, fellur, yew jist ain't a lawy fellur, cause smart fellurs frum the guvurmint done to have sed.''
Fantsy fellurs from the guvurmint done to have sed their ain't no voter fraud and besides, there's no standing. Almost every one of them smart fellurs.
They're lying.
Every word they're saying is a calculated lie to manipulate, and mis-represent reality in your face, daring you
to say otherwise.
Fantsy guvurmint fellers with college educations in knowing
who's criminal or not, has done sed cause you come here,
you're the most likely person to look at
if there's any widespread burning, terroristic killings, lootings, and general purpose violent terroristic attacks on strangers.
Are you a terrorist cause everybody in the FBI and Homeland Security agrees you're one? No?
Well, the moment that constitution comes into play, the word democracy is gone, and it's a representative republic,
not a representative democracy.
Definitionally so. You looked up the definition of one, go look up the definition of the other.
Presence of a small c constitution, protecting rights from the majority,
makes it a small r republican model,
not a small d democratic model.
That's how you know. ''Is this a democracy, or a republic?''
''Is there a constitution that the majority can't erase the rights of the minority?''
''No?'' Then it's a democracy like the Greeks had.
"Yes,'' then it's a constitutional republic, like the Europeans invented.
And republics have representative voting.
It's why they're called, ''representative republics.''
All that other stuff is just manipulators, trying to evade having to admit it.
I realize I'm coming across as this inflexible troll, and I apologize for that, but it's a great example of people simply creating FAKE language, out of something that's whole cloth.
When the small c constitution,
supplants ''whoever buys the biggest mob,''
and both aristocrats and common class proles are subject to the same,
superceding law built specifically to protect the less common from the more common or the more sophisticated - it's a representative republic.
The Greeks had a democratic answer to aristocracy.
Europeans invented the republican answer to both.
This is a very good example of the very fabric of your legal system simply being hijacked, with this ''democracy, democracy'' bullshit.
When a big mob of Shia move into a town in Iraq, the majority decides that now we're all gonna obey Shia law. All you Sunni now go to the backs of buses, etc.
But everybody votes it's just the majority is obvious.
That is a representative democracy.
The Confederacy had a representative democracy. Biggest mob did what they wanted, everybody else could do what they wanted, as long as they didn't get in the way of the biggest mob doing what they wanted.
The United States, from President to dog catcher, is a republic. The dog catcher can't come kill your dog, because you're an Episcopalian, and that's just too bad, because everybody in this town, isn't Episcopalian.
The dog catcher has to obey that republic's constitution.
So for the past few months this has been one of my pet peeves about people not even being allowed to make the proper distinctions because it's just silly to use truthful words about things.
No, TYRANTS are pretending the CONSTITUTION isn't the boss, the biggest criminal gang is.
So that's my story, and until pressured to cave in, I'm sticking to it.
The election process is democratic. At least at the state level where popular vote determines who gets the state's votes. Of course, all that goes out the window when thereis fraud.
Just saw your post after I submitted mine :) (I don't like the way this site arranges comments; it's hard to see which comment is responding to which comment, and then when you get a notice that some comment you made has been commented to, unless you just made it, you most likely don't know what the comment was, and have to click on the comment to find your original comment)
I should add that it makes more sense in Trump's way anyway. A big lie is described as something that "nobody would believe someone so respectable could distort the truth so horribly."
The left definitely doesn't think Trump is respectable, but lot's of misguided patriots still trust the media and the establishment and believe they could never get away with stealing an election or ad nauseum spamming how fair it is. But then again, I shouldn't expect the people who constantly misuse terms and words that they think make them sound smart and witty to use another term correctly (like "snowflake", "whataboutism", "fallacy", or straight up just posting on a subreddit like mildlyinteresting to shill political shit, "but the name says mildlyinteresting and so and such doing this and getting away with is mildlyinteresting".)
Tick... tock... tick... tock... nothing can stop what is coming...
Buckle up, DS deceivers (on both sides of the aisle)... the exposure of your crimes, your trials and your resultant punishments are bearing down on all of you.
Exactly what he did 4 years ago when he took their statement "fake news" to talk about what Trump was saying and started using it for their news stations.
Now we all associate fake news with CNN! POTUS Trump is masterful at this type of thing.
Some of these RINOs were very convincing, telling us what we wanted to hear and pretending to be our champions. It took Trump actually doing what they claimed they were trying to do - only to meet with opposition from them over absolute nonsense ("But he tweets mean things") - to expose them.
Not too sure about before 2016, but during Trump's presidency they kept talking about how Trump is an illegitimate president and banged on for years about how they had to get him out of office.
Well, TGA is about doing research, looking up facts and piecing things together. The left tends to do very little of the former and skip right to the latter. TGA is about accountability, morality and the rule of law. The leftist's side do what they can to not be held accountable, have deemed morality as subjective and malleable and often are criminal-sympathizers.
THE BIG LIE - Goebbels SOP "built back better" for the new National Socialist movement promulgated by DS and the Democrat party. WE WILL NOT SUBMIT you traitorous bastards. Our forefathers will rise from their graves before your God Damned tyranny flourishes here.
It's obvious she's hiding shit. If you have a valid argument, you don't attack the messenger and the fact that she's engaging in this is evidence that she feels threatened by an audit of the 2020 election.
ironically, SHE is poison to democratic system.
The left projects almost 100% of the time...
Bye Felica,,,
THIS ☝?
THIS Twice.
THIS Thrice
Moar of this.
It's "both". Sort of.
It's a Republic and our voting system is "democratic" ("little D").
But yeah, folks say "Our Democracy" because they are liars and scoundrels trying to drag our glorious Republic beneath the waves. Fuck those people forever. In the case of "oceanside13" I don't think that is what he/she meant.
In 1787, anxious citizens awaited outside Independence Hall to hear the results of the constitutional convention. As the delegates left the building, a woman in the crowd asked , ''well,Doctor, what have we got?'' ...Without hesitation , Franklin replied, ''A REPUBLIC, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT ! ''
Yes, one of my favorite stories. I think it might even be true. Franklin was such a badass. Love him.
But the idea that our voting or even our voting system is "democratic" is also true.
Demos = of the populace.
As opposed to an Aristocratic system, etc.
What we are not is a "Big D Democracy", like these assholes (basically every Democrat and most of the "Republicans") claim.
Shut your dirty mouth, to anyone who claims we are a Democracy. We are a Republic, and yes we intend to keep it.
No, it's not. This is not a Democratic system it's a Federal Republic.
End of story. It's over. Anyone who told you otherwise is lying, slavery, child molester party criminal scum.
"Democratic" is an adjective, here. Which stands in contrast to a government by the Aristos, the Aristocracy. This is what I mean in the prior posts that we are "little D democratic".
We have a Republic. It is a Federal Republic with checks and balances that is designed to limit power in just about every way (across, up, down, etc.). In fact it is the most perfect ever formed, and I marvel at the intelligence that was employed in creating it. The system enables us to soar as individuals, yet that same system thwarts those who would enslave us. Truly amazing, and I stand in awe of the wisdom of our Founders.
Our Founders hated the idea of a Democracy, because they rightly knew that all Democracies throughout history have failed. Athens, for example. Our founders were very familiar with the histories of Athens and the other Democracies. All perished in fire of their own making.
Sic semper tyrannis.
However, our Republic is a participatory form of Republic, where the populace votes (for the Electors in the Electoral College, in the case of a President, for example). Voters vote for everything from dog catcher up to POTUS. The word in Greek for the Populace is Demos. Therefore, a government by the people, for the people, is therefore always "democratic". But is not per force a Democracy. We therefore here have a Federal Republic with democratic voting/participation (e.g. it is "democratic"), not a Democracy.
And yes, tyrants are scum. Liars are scum. Not American.
E Pluribus, UNUM.
And So Say All of Us.
The Greeks had no constitutional oversight. They had a democratic system.
The moment that constitution comes into view and majority SCOTUS decisions are measured against that constitution, to make sure they have their principles straight, it is a republic.
The term republic comes into force, when there is a constitution, capping the rights of the more common in erasing the rights of the less common.
You can try to pretend there can be more to it, but the moment those constitutions come into play, limiting the rights of the majority, it's no longer democracy.
Even if you and every member of SCOTUS can't think of the REAL WORD, it's a representative republican model.
Not a representative democracy model, it has become a representative republic model.
Not maybe.
I know your temptation is to say ''Wayle, fellur, yew jist ain't a lawy fellur, cause smart fellurs frum the guvurmint done to have sed.''
Fantsy fellurs from the guvurmint done to have sed their ain't no voter fraud and besides, there's no standing. Almost every one of them smart fellurs.
They're lying.
Every word they're saying is a calculated lie to manipulate, and mis-represent reality in your face, daring you
to say otherwise.
Fantsy guvurmint fellers with college educations in knowing
who's criminal or not, has done sed cause you come here,
you're the most likely person to look at
if there's any widespread burning, terroristic killings, lootings, and general purpose violent terroristic attacks on strangers.
Are you a terrorist cause everybody in the FBI and Homeland Security agrees you're one? No?
Well, the moment that constitution comes into play, the word democracy is gone, and it's a representative republic,
not a representative democracy.
Definitionally so. You looked up the definition of one, go look up the definition of the other.
Presence of a small c constitution, protecting rights from the majority, makes it a small r republican model, not a small d democratic model.
That's how you know. ''Is this a democracy, or a republic?''
''Is there a constitution that the majority can't erase the rights of the minority?''
''No?'' Then it's a democracy like the Greeks had.
"Yes,'' then it's a constitutional republic, like the Europeans invented. And republics have representative voting. It's why they're called, ''representative republics.''
All that other stuff is just manipulators, trying to evade having to admit it.
I realize I'm coming across as this inflexible troll, and I apologize for that, but it's a great example of people simply creating FAKE language, out of something that's whole cloth.
When the small c constitution, supplants ''whoever buys the biggest mob,'' and both aristocrats and common class proles are subject to the same, superceding law built specifically to protect the less common from the more common or the more sophisticated - it's a representative republic.
The Greeks had a democratic answer to aristocracy.
Europeans invented the republican answer to both.
This is a very good example of the very fabric of your legal system simply being hijacked, with this ''democracy, democracy'' bullshit.
When a big mob of Shia move into a town in Iraq, the majority decides that now we're all gonna obey Shia law. All you Sunni now go to the backs of buses, etc.
But everybody votes it's just the majority is obvious.
That is a representative democracy.
The Confederacy had a representative democracy. Biggest mob did what they wanted, everybody else could do what they wanted, as long as they didn't get in the way of the biggest mob doing what they wanted.
The United States, from President to dog catcher, is a republic. The dog catcher can't come kill your dog, because you're an Episcopalian, and that's just too bad, because everybody in this town, isn't Episcopalian.
The dog catcher has to obey that republic's constitution.
So for the past few months this has been one of my pet peeves about people not even being allowed to make the proper distinctions because it's just silly to use truthful words about things.
No, TYRANTS are pretending the CONSTITUTION isn't the boss, the biggest criminal gang is.
So that's my story, and until pressured to cave in, I'm sticking to it.
The election process is democratic. At least at the state level where popular vote determines who gets the state's votes. Of course, all that goes out the window when thereis fraud.
No, it's not. It's the election process of a Federal Republic.
People voting has NOTHING to DO with whether a system is democratic.
Pilot to bombardier: "We're over the target."
Hopefully they drop a house on her.
One more wicked witch bites the dust.
As I understand it, a bucket of water will also melt a wicked witch.
The house would be much more entertaining ;)
Need to find a golf cleat
Lol. ?
Okay, I'm willing to compromise. We'll tie a house to the witch, then drop her in the ocean. :-P
With sharks in the water.
While being stomped with golf cleats.
And skies full of vultures.
That's a woman?
Watch the water!! :D
Just saw your post after I submitted mine :) (I don't like the way this site arranges comments; it's hard to see which comment is responding to which comment, and then when you get a notice that some comment you made has been commented to, unless you just made it, you most likely don't know what the comment was, and have to click on the comment to find your original comment)
"Watch the water!" :)
Or perhaps, a Chinese rocket?
45 dropped a MOAB with that statement..
It's a direct reference to Hitler and the Jews
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie
That is some great info ! Thanks ??
Yep, Hitler coined it and the good guys, the real anti fascists, turned it on him.
Just like Trump, the real anti fascist, is going to turn in on them.
I should add that it makes more sense in Trump's way anyway. A big lie is described as something that "nobody would believe someone so respectable could distort the truth so horribly."
The left definitely doesn't think Trump is respectable, but lot's of misguided patriots still trust the media and the establishment and believe they could never get away with stealing an election or ad nauseum spamming how fair it is. But then again, I shouldn't expect the people who constantly misuse terms and words that they think make them sound smart and witty to use another term correctly (like "snowflake", "whataboutism", "fallacy", or straight up just posting on a subreddit like mildlyinteresting to shill political shit, "but the name says mildlyinteresting and so and such doing this and getting away with is mildlyinteresting".)
Holeephuk that's some filthy propaganda. Words cannot describe the evil that pens those articles.
When the Arizona audit is complete... WE will see who's spreading the Big Lie.
I think I despise the RINO's (Cheney, Romney) in the government more than the Dems at this point.
Hurts worse when your family stabs you in the back. I concur with this statement.
So true.
Tick... tock... tick... tock... nothing can stop what is coming...
Buckle up, DS deceivers (on both sides of the aisle)... the exposure of your crimes, your trials and your resultant punishments are bearing down on all of you.
u/#timebomb
Exactly what he did 4 years ago when he took their statement "fake news" to talk about what Trump was saying and started using it for their news stations.
Now we all associate fake news with CNN! POTUS Trump is masterful at this type of thing.
Make them live in your frame.
She's got to keep up Her Big Lie in order to keep all her stolen laundered money that she and her father have.
Such a commitment to lying so brazenly is not just human weakness, but unmistakably demonic in the extreme.
We are not a democracy Liz, you dope!
republic. not democracy.
How is she not getting impaled on Twatter?
https://twitter.com/Liz_Cheney/status/1389225154639695881
Because Twitter has banned many, many of us!
Look at their stock lately and you'll see why. Buh-bye Twatter.
You can see...THE WHITE’S OF THEIR EYES!!
Ray-cist!!!
Don't trust a person of power with the name Cheney.
or McCain
I can't believe that years ago when she appeared on shows like Crossfire, I was a fan. How little I knew then.
She was good at pretending she was a "conservative" back then. Now we all see her true self.
Some of these RINOs were very convincing, telling us what we wanted to hear and pretending to be our champions. It took Trump actually doing what they claimed they were trying to do - only to meet with opposition from them over absolute nonsense ("But he tweets mean things") - to expose them.
Liz Chen-reeeeeeeee!
Wonder if she felt that way during Trump's presidency when all the libs cried about election fraud for years.
I only awakened in October 2020. What were the MSM and politicians talking about before 2016 and before they got it all wrong?
Not too sure about before 2016, but during Trump's presidency they kept talking about how Trump is an illegitimate president and banged on for years about how they had to get him out of office.
And do you know if there's a Left/Democratic version of the great awakening? Or is their version just to get us to socialism?
Well, TGA is about doing research, looking up facts and piecing things together. The left tends to do very little of the former and skip right to the latter. TGA is about accountability, morality and the rule of law. The leftist's side do what they can to not be held accountable, have deemed morality as subjective and malleable and often are criminal-sympathizers.
Thieves got to do thieves thing.
THE BIG LIE - Goebbels SOP "built back better" for the new National Socialist movement promulgated by DS and the Democrat party. WE WILL NOT SUBMIT you traitorous bastards. Our forefathers will rise from their graves before your God Damned tyranny flourishes here.
It’s NOT a “Democratic system” you whore of a satanist!!!
It's obvious she's hiding shit. If you have a valid argument, you don't attack the messenger and the fact that she's engaging in this is evidence that she feels threatened by an audit of the 2020 election.
Also, she's ugly.
PAIN IS COMING LIZ!
Whatever we have now, it is not democratic, and it is poison itself.
. . . Said the lying, elitist skank in yet another moment of irony . . .
Eat a bag of dicks you dirty commie.
Updoot... but she probably enjoys eating bags of dicks.
Touche!
Why is she so SCARED?
Pshhh waves hands
We should believe her statement that it was not stolen over the many who claim it was because...she's special.
Big Lie.
Bro, these RINOS are getting a lefty following now lol. They need their sheep to thrive.
Unintelligible mutterings from a suicidal Psychopath. I pray for an end to her misery.
Running interference for her Dad's international pipeline investments, no doubt. Got to have Syria.
"It's afraid"
I can't wait to watch her eat her words, and choke on them!