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posted ago by AquaEyes777 ago by AquaEyes777 +305 / -5

This is my opinion only. I believe that if Pence had not certified the election, where would we be?

  1. We would still be trapped in the deep state, with Trump's power neutered to a certain extent. There would be NO PATH to draining the swamp.

  2. Trump does not trash Pence AT ALL! He doesn't praise him. He doesn't even mention him. Do you really think that if Trump had been counting on Pence, he wouldn't be pulverizing him at every turn since 1/6?

  3. Pence has been very quiet about Trump. Pretending to get ready for 2024.

Again, this is just my opinion.

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TheJake 67 points ago +67 / -0

Get where you're coming from, unless the accusations against him for child rape and plotting to assassinate Trump are true.

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jEs2We9Qbw 36 points ago +38 / -2

Exactly!

Pedos have really no good purpose in life and should die a painful death.

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InmatesRunTheAsylum 13 points ago +14 / -1

Anybody who ruins a child's sexuality should be shot.

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DrMcCoy 11 points ago +12 / -1

Indiana had the HIGHEST rate of child trafficking when Pence was governor.

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Judesama 8 points ago +8 / -0

You are right... kind of. Children dont have sexuality... until they know what sexuality or sex is. For example. My mom married some fucking stranger when I was 3 and fucked right in front of me. I knew what sex was by 3. My mom and that fucking asshole, IN MY OPINION, abused me. I knew fully what it was to be attracted to a girl at the age of 5. Imagine the shit I went though as a kid... SHUDDER. Not the worst... but still, abuse in my opinion.

So yes, your statement is correct, but when sexuality is introduced to them at a young age... like what they are doing now, with these weird ass leftist sex ed classes and DRAG QUEEN STORY HOUR, shit is getting really fucked up.

WE NEED TO STOP IT, or our kids will be fucking by the age of 8... and with the WRONG FUCKING PEOPLE!!

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Judesama 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nah I hear ya bro! Its all good tho, I wasnt raped, molested, such and such. I just happened to figure out the whole process before I was supposed to.

But I see your point as well.

I mean, even physically kids dont have sexual characteristics until they reach puberty. So yeah.

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Wtf_socialismreally 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hmm, do we? Making people feel uncomfortable with child abuse is a good thing. It means they have to think about why it makes them uncomfortable.

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VetforTrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

That wasn't how I was exposed but my story is nearly the same. I was about 5.

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Judesama 1 point ago +1 / -0

HAHAHAHAHA!!! Hopefully it was just with your mom and dad. Its really disturbing as a kid to see you mom be that close with a stranger.

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InmatesRunTheAsylum 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sexuality might not have been the proper term. Not sure what the proper term should be.

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Questionable 1 point ago +2 / -1

That's not what I said, and you know it. +2 Instant up votes on a handshake account.

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Questionable 3 points ago +4 / -1

No, I really didn't. That's something you are actively making up in your own head to justify your own incorrect statements. Which by the way, is the definition of "Mental Gymnastics"

Do you really not know the difference between criminal actions and disorders of the mind?

Next time you are to quote me. I expect you to quote me verbatim, and not just make up stories in your own mind.

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MNisahellhole 4 points ago +5 / -1

Fuck outta here. Defending pedos? Fuck around and find out.

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FreeTrumpian 2 points ago +3 / -1

Pedophilia cannot be cured. Pedophiles should be executed. You are calling it a psychiatric disorder which would imply you think it can be treated when it cannot. Then you have the nerve to gaslight the guy who calls you out on it. That is not acceptable behavior, at all.

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Questionable 2 points ago +2 / -0

Murderous urges, are not a crime, murder is. Only murderers should be punished. Thoughts of violence is a psychiatric disorder, which implies one is a crime, and the other is a thought crime. Then you have the nerve to try and gaslight me, a guy who is now calling you out on that action. That is not acceptable behavior, at all.

Go find the definition of the word you are using. Keep looking until you find one that fits the definition you assume it means. You won't be back. Because it doesn't exist.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pedophilia

We don't prosecute or execute people for thoughtcrimes. Only actual criminal actions.

Which again, was not the point. The point being further down the comment thread, one which you are INTENTIONALLY ignoring, to try and gain leverage on a parent comment. Because you don't care about the truth, you only care about winning. Does that sound like someone you wish to be?

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FreeTrumpian 1 point ago +1 / -0

Best to keep your head down and your thoughts pure then pedo. Since you are so determined to defend the indefensible that I can only assume you are a pedophile.

To answer your question, yes, I care very much about winning and making a world where pedophiles are forced back deep into the shadows where they belong. I would never even consider to defend the thought of pedophilia but for some reason you are.

Here on GA.win there are shills of all kinds. Usually the best indication of a shill is that they argue the indefensible, never know when to give up, and always play mind games. Did someone hire you or are you trying to stay one step ahead of the justice you know is coming?

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Questionable 1 point ago +1 / -0

You again react with your heart and not your head. Making up stories in your mind.

May I remind you again. The person I was trying to talk to never came back.

He never acknowledged how that he derailed a thread on Pence's actionable crimes, or of how his reply was not related to to parent comment at all.

You continue to derail that thread further. Not caring at all about the actual topic.

Just as he had.

Outlandish accusations, baseless statements. Implications of mind games, and even fictional back stories, and narratives for motivations.

Again, you care only of winning. Even if that victory takes place exclusively in your head, and is based in fiction, and lies.

Personaje no jugador.

Es hora de despertar a LibreTrumplan.

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FreeTrumpian 1 point ago +1 / -0

"You again react with your heart and not your head. Making up stories in your mind."

Merriam Webster: gaslighting noun Gaslighting is a term, often used by mental health professionals (I am not one), to describe manipulative behavior used to confuse people into thinking their reactions are so far off base that they're crazy. — Yashar Ali

I'm not making things up weirdo. You're defending pedophiles. I don't care if the other guy got off topic. You chose to stick your neck out for pedophiles and you continue to do so.

You don't have to do so, and there is not good reason to stick your neck out.

That means one of two things:

  1. You are a pedophile.

  2. You are a shill, here to sow discord.

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Queef_Anon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Can't be cured? Yeah, I don't know about that.

"With men this is impossible but with God all things are possible."

Only the Lord can fix such a sickness but He can do so. He isn't called the Great Physician for nothing. Is God a liar?

That said, there's no defending such heinous actions but you need to think twice before you act out of vengeance. Is killing a pedo worth going to prison for life, losing your family, friends and freedom worth it? It's not for the chomo's well-being but yours.

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FreeTrumpian 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why would I do anything? Pedophilia is illegal. They will lose their freedom at the least. My preference would be that they are executed, it's what they deserve and I never insinuated that I would do it myself. You inserted that into the conversation and I don't appreciate it.

How do you possibly trust someone who could do that to a child. You cannot, ever again. Pedos are evil. There exists the possibility for them to be forgiven by God. I doubt it though and I along with the majority of society would not forgive such crimes. Maybe that makes me less of a Christian but I couldn't care less. I hate evil.

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Queef_Anon 1 point ago +1 / -0

I understand where you're coming from and, no, you shouldn't trust anyone who has offended a child. I spoke in general, for everyone, not just you. This board is full of people rightly pissed off but who vow to take matters into their own hands. All I was saying is that the cost of doing so isn't worth it.

The apostle Paul stated that he was the worst of sinners. That includes pedophiles. He killed Christ followers and blasphemed the Spirit. Did God forgive him? Did God use him?

Fren, it's good that you detest evil but it's not about being a Christian. It's about knowing the Lord, knowing His viewpoint and being in agreement with it.

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TheBRAINz 0 points ago +1 / -1

Who are you saying has the psychiatric disorder?

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Junionthepipeline 0 points ago +1 / -1

What the fuck is wrong with you

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Questionable 2 points ago +2 / -0

I am asking a really simple question. How did the people in this thread, go from judging something on the bases of merit, to reacting emotionally.

How did we get from here:

"Get where you're coming from, unless the accusations against him for child rape and plotting to assassinate Trump are true."

To here:

"Exactly! Pedos have really no good purpose in life and should die a painful death."

This is not a continuation of the conversation. It is not even addressing it in any way. His reply makes no sense in context. It derails the conversation, and he never replied to me. Don't you find that odd? Don't you ever Question anything?

Take this for example:

"What the fuck is wrong with you"

That's not a Question I can answer, it's not even a proper sentence. Do you not find it troubling that you communicate in sound bites? What kind of response did you expect from such an open ended Question?

This is the actual conversation thread, and it has been supplanted by emotional reactions.

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Ogcarvattack 2 points ago +2 / -0

Conspiracy to commit murder is a crime. Say you pay a hitman to kill someone and the hitman turns you in with receipts...

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Tradox 19 points ago +19 / -0

and the supposed coup with Ryan.

full disclosure, like the OP I'm still not fully convinced Pence is the opposition.

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Greekish 9 points ago +10 / -1

Pence was allegedly replaced with a body-double actor. A very good likeness (unlike "Biden"). I think there's a reason why "Biden" isn't a perfect replica. I think that awake people are meant to know. But with "Pence", we are not supposed to disclose the truth.

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Kektrain 1 point ago +1 / -0

Or was flipped, or dia operative. Was it Chris Miller that praised Pence and greatest military ops ever, supposedly speaking in regards to space force?

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SirCamembert 1 point ago +1 / -0

Pence looks generic as fuck, there’s probably 1,000s of look-a-likes in the world for him.

Not only do you have the trouble of finding someone who looks like creepy Joe but you have to find someone willing to actually play such a fucking dumb and risky part where they will always be in the limelight.

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emptychairday 7 points ago +7 / -0

He was going to run with Ryan. That much is a fact but that's more politics to me than anything else.

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AmericanVictory 2 points ago +2 / -0

I tend to agree

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PaineThomas 6 points ago +7 / -1

I'm not buying it. He's weird, but he's religious weird, not pedo weird. A guy that doesn't like to be away from his wife isn't banging kids.

Trump wanted him because he was a deadend politician without a real future with connections to the GOP. I doubt he would sacrifice all of that to run in 2024 when the entire party would hate him. It just doesn't make any sense.

I've been saying for months now that there is more to Pence than meets the eye. But I less Trump explains his involvement in a national address once this is over, Pence will always be tainted. People won't forgive him unless he is fully exonerated by GEOTUS.

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HunnyB 8 points ago +8 / -0

Trump didn't want him, the GOP told Trump he had to take pence or he wouldn't get the nomination.

I believe Flynn was the original choice Also was Penve lying about Flynn to get him arrested a part of Pence being a good guy?

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PaineThomas 1 point ago +1 / -0

Do we know that for sure? I've heard that speculation for years, but it's always remained speculation afaik.

The Flynn removal and arrest still confuses me. Trump had to know somebody was compromised if Flynn was an insider and got shut out like that.

There are so many unanswered questions.

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SirCamembert -2 points ago +1 / -3

GOP made him? According to who, anonymous CNN sources?

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HunnyB 4 points ago +4 / -0

Common knowledge unless you've been sleeping under a rock.

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SirCamembert 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wow sounds like I'm speaking with a liberal. Cool story bro.

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HunnyB 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not a man, and like I said common knowledge, easily verifiable I'm not going to hold your hand and provide you information you can look up yourself. You're the one sounding like a liberal using personal attacks to win your argument

I'm done with this now I lost a close family member last night and was only on here because I couldn't sleep, but pence isn't worth arguing over.

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SirCamembert 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wow I just said it sounds like I’m speaking with a liberal and you’re already crying about personal attacks? Are you really a liberal?

Get prepared for more personal attacks when you refuse to provide source for claims faggot.

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JediMasterPepe 4 points ago +4 / -0

Pence is a bad guy that had to play his part to lessen his sentence(not get executed)

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DrMcCoy 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think we have Pence, but Trump will make him confess to America and the World, his involvement with the Deep State, their plans, his pedophilia, murders and homosexuality, etc. in exchange to not receive the death penalty.

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TheAwakened 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trump should just tell all the evil people: confess your crimes and you can live out life on a luxurious island together, all of you

Then just shoot em all

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PaineThomas 1 point ago +1 / -0

I dunno, man. I never much liked the guy beyond his smooth voice and incredible hair, but he just doesn't seem to fit in with the rest of the bad apples. I remember Q saying that not everybody is evil (less than you think), so take that as a hint that not everyone we believe is bad truly is.

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Vests123 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree. Hopefully he did play his part and did what was expected of him by POTUS Trump. If so, I hope his name is cleared at some point, if this is what occurred.

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Thwok 1 point ago +1 / -0

After what he did to the children that we know of he can never have a clear name.

His best outcome is fading away from the spotlight and retiring to anonymity.

I have a feeling if he tries to come back or help out his Deep State buddies in any way, they WILL drop the hammer on him.

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Vests123 2 points ago +2 / -0

Possibly, but I'm still not convinced about those allegations.

I hope he was part of the plan and all the rumors of such activity is false and meant as a disinformation campaign.

I do hope we get the full story later on at some point, but it also may all be true.

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sparty_girl -1 points ago +1 / -2

Not trying to start anything and I know many of you don't believe in the prophets, but on July 13th, Robin Bullock had the spirit speaking through him and he stated that Pence has done his penance and no one should be speaking poorly of him anymore.

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WalkerTXSRanger1776 4 points ago +4 / -0

Trump also did say about pence: It takes more courage to do nothing.

That statement could go either way. Either he did nothing, allowing certification for the trap. Or he did nothing to stop the fraud.

I think that pence making a deal redeeming himself as much as possible makes the most sense. Pedo stuff is unforgivable, but if he helps take down the cabal I'd say he earned some points. Maybe he will have a heart attack, keeping his family name intact, and allowing his kids & wife to not be dragged through dirt or be harrassed. Not that I agree with it but sometimes in war you have to do what you have to do to win or get the upper hand.

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MileHiLife 3 points ago +3 / -0

THIS! Remember this exact statement from Trump, anons?

Think... critically

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MAG768720 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trump also did say about pence: It takes more courage to do nothing.

He meant it would have taken more courage to not allow the questionable electors to be counted, and to wait for the states to clarify which electors were the real ones. Pence would have "done nothing" in the sense of not certifying questionable electors. That would have taken guts. Especially since it would have gone against the deep state criminals and their scheme.

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Thwok 2 points ago +2 / -0

I can't speak well of a Child Rapist and Murderer, regardless of how he made up for his political crimes.

Sorry, it's a bridge too far; I just can't.

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Cook_My_Robin 2 points ago +2 / -0

Either Pence really is an evil child molester....or Lin Wood is incorrect.

Just don't think Lin Wood was chosen to tell ANY specific "white lies".

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NOTWOKE 2 points ago +2 / -0

@johnheretohelp

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undine53 33 points ago +34 / -1

We are watching a movie: expect plot twists, red herrings, secrets revealed and surprising revelations.

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gnuguy 29 points ago +29 / -0

I remain noncommittal on him. It confused me when Trump said that Pence acting "doesn’t take courage," but "what takes courage is to do nothing." Like you say, this is the only way to destroy the deep state/cabal.

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TheAwakened 1 point ago +1 / -0

If Pence did nothing = not certifying election

Which he didnt, he certfied it

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yomammasayshi 23 points ago +24 / -1

I’m not “CONVICTING” pence until all is revealed. But I’m assuming he’s a filthy treasonous pedo Santanic commie piece of dog shit till then. But at the same time I hope he’s innocent and it was all part of the plan. We shall see

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AReckoningIsComing 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yep. He got an envelope and even Tory Snith exposed Pence as a pedo trafficker back in June 2016 before all this started. What are the odds.

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TXBeeLady 20 points ago +20 / -0

Here’s my take:

  1. Pence was foisted on Trump as a running mate by GOP.
  2. Trump found out the truth about Pence (cabal/pedo/whatever).
  3. Trump and team used Pence to further the plan by making him NOT object to the electors. (Anything that happened to Pence after that was his karma. )
  4. The mission was handed over to the American people on January 6th. Most of us expected a miracle prior to Jan 20. We knew there was fraud. But when did WE wake up and realize that WE needed to get involved to fix it?

It’s been a slow boil ever since.

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Phishhed44 2 points ago +2 / -0

This☝🏼

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SmolPedeBestPede 15 points ago +16 / -1

Lin Wood himself confirmed that Pence is a traitor.

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Greekish 14 points ago +14 / -0

His opinion or he provided real proof?

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Plantmedicine 5 points ago +5 / -0

Opinion but i believe he knows what pence has done with boys.

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Dardar 10 points ago +10 / -0

You're watching a show.

It's a good show.

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AReckoningIsComing 7 points ago +8 / -1

Tory Smith accused him of being a pedo in June 2016 shortly before he was poisoned and murdered. His videos are still on youtube.

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DrMcCoy 6 points ago +6 / -0

Tory Smith, a retired police officer made numerous videos about Mike Pence's pedophilia and murders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9WKL_UNxds

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AReckoningIsComing 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yep and then got poisoned and murdered a few months later. Says it all. Pence was dirty.

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colonial113 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don't trust Lin. Something is way off with him.

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AReckoningIsComing 1 point ago +1 / -0

what?? he's got balls of steel and destroyed his reputation and his livelihood to fight to save the kids and expose people like Pence. He's a freedom fighter and we need to support people who put their lives on the line whilst we sit in our bedrooms making memes on the internet.

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AReckoningIsComing 1 point ago +1 / -0

He saw the extent of the deep state when he went up against them 20-30 years ago with Richard Jewell. He knew about and was fighting all this corruption way before many of us.

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needorganization 1 point ago +1 / -0

Research the things Brian Cates has dug up on Jonheretohelp (Lin Woods "whistleblower"). Doesn't look good, and calls all of what was said into serious question.

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FreeTrumpian 2 points ago +2 / -0

Brian Cates is clearly controlled opposition, he denies elite pedophilia. He also came out of the blue after the election. If actually read Dr John McGreevey's deposition, he has explanations for Cates accusations of him. For example, he claims that he was waterboarded with kerosene after blowing the whistle the first time. The resulting damage explains some of the drug issues. To be fair I'm not entirely sold on the guy either but be careful when listening to Cates. I wonder what McGreevey has to gain from making such serious allegations about such powerful people.

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GreatNipples 12 points ago +12 / -0

I think Pence is a good man/white hat. It’s an unpopular opinion and I don’t care.

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VforVendetta2021 5 points ago +5 / -0

Innocent until proven guilty.

I personally think he’s a traitor... but that’s my OPINION. I am forced to be reasonable and wait until more evidence comes out.

I can’t make an informed, rational, just opinion about him until this plays out. (Even if my emotions want him tarred and feathered.)

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Ophelia 4 points ago +4 / -0

I am ruined because I believed in Sessions and Barr.

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SirCamembert 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why would you believe in Barr? Q never told you to trust him. His father was involved with Epstein and wrote a book on child trafficking.

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CQVFEFE 1 point ago +1 / -0

Q called Barr the stealth bomber, B2

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SirCamembert 1 point ago +1 / -0

What post?

I hope you're not thinking of the one where Bill Barr doesn't fit in the spaces provided and we are asked to reconcile.

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Mountaing8 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think he's a good speaker. I don't trust him one bit.

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Cook_My_Robin 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you're right then Lin Wood's witness is a fake witness.

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GreatNipples 2 points ago +2 / -0

We may find out the complete truth. We may not. We shall see.

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naahbruh 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think the new Pence very well may be a white hat

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10lbsBass 11 points ago +11 / -0

Remember when he was given a coin after he certified the election? The military gives them out to commemorate a good mission. People were assuming it was nefarious, maybe not. Maybe his role was to give them enough rope to hang themselves. All these traitors scrambling now are being watched. IMO.

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AquaEyes777 [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

Right! I mean, it is so obvious that if he had certified, we would not have been able to affect ANYTHING!!!!! The election fraud would not have been exposed, it forced all these state people to certify a fraud and do the crime. The election would NOT HAVE BEEN AN OFFICIAL CRIME had it not been certified. See what I mean? We have to use intellectual honesty and not emotion to understand things.

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Thwok 2 points ago +2 / -0

The Masons also give out coins .... and in a sneaky, slippery palming-handshake.

From what I've seen, the military openly give their coins out with great respect and don't try to hide it.

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10lbsBass 2 points ago +2 / -0

I watched Defense Secretary Chris Miller just walk up to a soldier and hand him one. It was not a big display or ceremony. I think the whole point of the Illuminati is secrecy. They would do something like that behind closed doors. IMO

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Thwok 2 points ago +2 / -0

well, look at the handshake crap and symbolism they do in pictures. they love doing things in the open that they think we won't see.

now that I think about it, it's a great point to support Pence either being replaced (like HRC's body double that she's known to use), or [more likely] flipping to work with/for the Patriots/White Hats ... acting like he was confused and didn't know what it was so that the cameras would catch it and reveal it to us.

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chicagotrauma 11 points ago +11 / -0

Opinions are like aholes. Most everyones got one. That said. It's as good as any. Who knows?!?

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AquaEyes777 [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

That's an old saying! LOL

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notkizzalvin 9 points ago +9 / -0

best I can tell is there are like 300 truly evil creatures in control. They pull the strings, and they have a lot of them to pull. Most of this has been cutting the strings. Good people in bad situations. "What would you do if they could hurt everyone you know?"

playbook was received and the pen went to work. the SHOW MUST GO ON, but follow the pen. it looks the same but something is off. Unless someone has some of those "they live" glasses I can borrow I am just assuming that everyone is part of the show. no idea who is who yet

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Pollycracker 9 points ago +9 / -0

Pence was captured. I believe he was part of the plan, much like Linsey Graham, offered a way out and carefully monitored. Pelosi may be involved as well, double agents if you will.

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TheJake 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep, also there was a point where AF2 callsign was no longer used and Pence flights were SAM callsign. Also remember military send-off Pence and his wife...Punisher on helicopter. Their emotions seemed in line with fear of dying.

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Rubieroo 7 points ago +7 / -0

A lot of people were said to be under control of white hats years ago. Those under control are not white hats themselves - more like grey.

By the way, if you recall the color codes of Twitter....some of their banners went grey. During the rona days when Hanks went missing, Spade was freaking, along with Madonna, Drew Barrymore, Maria Shriver, and Matthew McConaughey....a lot of banners turned a solid color.

Side note: Matthew McC's Twitter is all about orange. Hanks went silent and his banner is grey.

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Mungfatchee 2 points ago +2 / -0

I did a little research. Many"celebs" Doo not have a grey banner - including Rita Wilson. BUT, Lady Gaga's banner is also grey!!!!

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Rubieroo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Many of them later changed as well - and some remained blank. It was really weird.

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Rubieroo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Surfing Twatter and noticed: Grassley's page is grey!

https://twitter.com/ChuckGrassley

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Mungfatchee 2 points ago +2 / -0

Who else do you think might be ‘out’? Clintons and BO have children in their banner - not their children.

Hmmmmmmm

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Rubieroo 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'll stay paying attention to those banners again. When I saw some of them change from solid colors I stopped watching.... But then there are some that never switched again?! Now that's really strange.

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solarsavior 7 points ago +7 / -0

We simply don’t know, because there was no way Pence was going to certify the election.

Say Pence is Deep State. Pence is not going to certify the election. Deep State desperate to get back power.

Say Pence is a Patriot. Pence is not going to certify the election. The crime will be allowed to happen so the full scope and participants can be known and prosecuted.

Trump did trash Pence to a certain degree.

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Helpus2021 7 points ago +7 / -0

I have been thinking this all along! I think Barr is a white hat too

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tstr 7 points ago +7 / -0

I think Pence was to Trump what Bush was to Reagan. A deep state plant to take over when they get rid of him.

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malooch 6 points ago +6 / -0

Everything about 1/6 was weird

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HunnyB 6 points ago +6 / -0

That's all well and good but you're forgetting one key thing. The envelopes.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/fk4XYjIzDysX/

Pence's wife got one too.

Also the Pence Flynn, the Pence Ryan the whole thing on the RNC pushing for Pence to run with Trump, I could go on, but nothing will convince me Pence is good.

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AquaEyes777 [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

But we don't know what is in each envelope. It seems 100% likely that each envelope contained a specific message for each recipient. They wouldn't have copied the same note over and over, know what I mean?

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HunnyB 1 point ago +2 / -1

Keep defending the traitor all you want. I've done enough research besides the envelopes. I knew what he was before the election even happened.

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AquaEyes777 [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm not defending him. I didn't say he was a good guy or a bad guy. I said he was playing a role. Whether willingly or unwillingly, I don't care. The POINT is that the certification HAD TO HAPPEN or else we would never get to where we are. No one seems to be able to understand this. I guess I'm not explaining it properly.

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Deplorable_in_PA 5 points ago +5 / -0

I guess you never know what is in a man's heart..but Mike Pence seemed like the very last person to cuck out. Certainly his political future is tied to Trump. If anyone had a vested interest in winning it would have been him. And you can't tell me Trump had no idea of what his VP was going to do during that joint session of congress.

A lot of people are mad a Pence for punting on this one, but I'm not so sure kicking it back to the states was the answer. They could have just as easily done a phony "audit" and declared Gropey Joe the winner. Not to mention the enormous pressure that would have been on state legislators to re-certiy.

How in the hell would YOU like to be a rep in PA and be the deciding "no" vote? Armed Antifa goon squads camped outside your home. Losing your business interests. Phony criminal charges against you. Your kids harasssed and hounded at school, your wife followed by Antifa goons. What would YOU do?

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AquaEyes777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

EXACTLY! Very well observed and well stated. Trump knows precisely where all the chess pieces are and how to use them properly. He told us, if we would just listen, that it takes more courage to do nothing. People just need to allow their minds to travel down that though process and suspend their disbelief and let the intellectual honesty flow.

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Jackdagger 5 points ago +5 / -0

I just remember him saying to Miller with space force they were running the most complex military operations in the history of the United States military.

In a time that is relatively peaceful the only complex operation could be Q and uprooting China and deep state. Can't think of any others?

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HunnyB 3 points ago +3 / -0

No. Miller thanked him for running the most complex military operation.

You're totally twisting it.

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Jackdagger 3 points ago +3 / -0

Oh damn ill have to rewatch. But even still what was that complex military op?

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HunnyB 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nobody knows except the military, I don't think Pence knew either.

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Jackdagger 1 point ago +1 / -0

My only theory that would counter that is if he was the Judas Goat. They needed to know the VP would support the bullshit certification or they wouldn't go through with the fraud so he was a double agent that led them to the treason? Just a theory if it is a mil op.

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HunnyB 1 point ago +1 / -0

He was doing what he was told to do, remember his wife got one of the envelopes.

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Jackdagger 1 point ago +1 / -0

We still don't technically know what was in those though and it has been a long time. But yeah you are probably right

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AquaEyes777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, it's not just about the election.

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R3tro 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think many people trump trashes is kabuki theatre... take bill barr... traitor right? Screwed over trump right? Or, did he play his part. If barr was a traitor, why did he assign durham as special council before leaving? Doesnt make sense to do if you are a deep state shit bag right? Same goes for kelly, mattis, milly, sessions, etc.... some maybe deepstate yes, or is it all part of the show to make the deep state completely lost on who they can trust or not... we will find out in the end !!!

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MaxdOut 4 points ago +4 / -0

Still like to know what Pence and Chris Miller were up to last summer.

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420TrumpDaddy 3 points ago +3 / -0

No, Pence fucks kids. Trump did it because he was the most vulnerable asset for the cabal in fooling the awakened conservatives.

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AquaEyes777 [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

Both are not mutually exclusive.

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Greekish 2 points ago +2 / -0

The original Pence might have fucked kids but there's no proof that the current body-double actor did.

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VforVendetta2021 6 points ago +6 / -0

There hasn’t yet been proof of Pence being a Pedo— just other people’s claims about this (albeit, many different claims), but without receipts.

I have Lin Wood in my “probably a White Hat, but still not sure.”

I have Pence in my “probably a POS traitor, but perhaps not.”

I’m only going to say one name as evidence that we HAVE to keep Pence in the “maybe” pile:

JEFF SESSIONS.

This may or may not be political theater. Time will tell.

“DISINFORMATION IS NECESSARY.”

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VforVendetta2021 8 points ago +8 / -0

Also... there has yet to be ANY real proof of body doubles (other than Hillary).

Did Q ever indicate this?

Stop following GhostEzra.

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BlaineBug 3 points ago +3 / -0

The types of people who constantly try to convince me that all of these arrests have been made and that there are body doubles or cgi or aliens or whatever are all vehenemently anti-pence and claim he's a pedofile and child trafficker.

So who really knows. The Q people, I don't believe, would believe THIS plot-twist.

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AquaEyes777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I get a little weary of every conspiracy theory being mixed into the election fraud. This isn't a judgement one way or the other on those theories. I just feel like it's: "SQUIRREL!!!!!!"

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BlaineBug 1 point ago +1 / -0

We tell our dog that all of the time to giggle at his reaction of looking out the window. Seems to be amusement solely for the "master."

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TDanonDJTJR2024 3 points ago +3 / -0

Eh I dunno, I felt pretty betrayed. As much as I wanna believe the Pence = Snape narrative, Pence's wife got an envelope at the George H.W. Bush funeral too. But that could be part of the ploy. At this point who knows? I want to believe the silver fox is pure, but I just don't know. I'll have to wait and see.

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AquaEyes777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

We don't know that those notes all said the same thing. I'm sure they were handwritten.

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NorthusMaximus 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes this has occurred to me also. But there is one more issue: A lot of suspicious pedo and trafficking data has been linked to Pence now. And it ain't pretty. He would never have my trust so WHEN our one true POTUS takes back the reins, I would hope for someone else to be his VP.

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DCGRITS 3 points ago +3 / -0

All I gotta say, the fly landing on Pence was a sign for me. I didn’t know at the time what was gonna happen but that fly made me think he wasn’t a good guy. I believe in signs.

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ep3n0r 3 points ago +3 / -0

The fly is fake. Go watch the news clips again in slow motion. It appears in his hair in a single frame.

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AquaEyes777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

LOL I was playing Maria in a stage production of The Sound of Music and the Reverent Mother and I were singing "Climb Every Mountain" (the play is different than the movie) and our theatre was extremely hot in New Mexico and this huge fly was buzzing around both of us during this emotional and reverent song. The Rev Mother, with one beautiful movement waved her arm slowly in reverent gesture to chase the fly over to me! LOL I guess we were also "marked." (screaming in laughter)

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DCGRITS 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yea it’s one thing for it to happen in an open fly friendly venue as but in a closed, indoor, air conditioned, studio…..

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JoeBidenEatsBabies 3 points ago +3 / -0

I’ll forgive Pence when he proves himself worthy of forgiveness. Until then he can circle the drain with the rest of the RINO swamp creatures

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GodWins_76 3 points ago +3 / -0

I have always believed Pence played his role. He did not want to continue in politics. His whole goal was to become the ambassador for Israel. That is why I laugh when I hear he is throwing his hat in for 2024. That man does not want any more scrutiny. He was to move out of the limelight. We needed a Judas to push this to forensic audits.

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AmericanLionXVII 3 points ago +3 / -0

Pence had an envelope at Bush Sr funeral

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Thwok 3 points ago +3 / -0

I believe you are correct, sir; Pence indeed played a role. But it wasn't willingly; it was part of his punishment.

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AquaEyes777 [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm a woman, but I appreciate your comment!! :-)

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Thwok 1 point ago +1 / -0

My apologies, ma'am :)

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AquaEyes777 [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

haha, no need! I think it is a compliment that you couldn't tell by my writing! ;->

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ultra_star -1 points ago +1 / -2

You're definitely not just some airhead Stacy!

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MAG768720 3 points ago +3 / -0

Nope. What Pence did was treason.

if Pence had not certified the election, where would we be?

That's easy. The states in question would have done the audits then, not now. Same result.

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swimkin 3 points ago +3 / -0

I am neutral on Pence. I am waiting to see how it all falls out.

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Mavdick96 3 points ago +3 / -0

Pence is a traitor in my eyes until it's proven.

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AquaEyes777 [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Innocent until proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt. So far, it's all guessing and supposition.

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Swifty2727 3 points ago +3 / -0

Silence on him by Trump does confuse me.. he did rip him in January but nothing since. Sometimes I think he rips people who are good to him to throw dems off the scent trail .... that said the jury is still out for me on pence as I have little substantial evidence he’s bad, for now it’s a lot of rumor but those rumors do t look good.

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AzTrumplican 2 points ago +2 / -0

Without a doubt this could be completely plausible. I’m certain there will be several key players on both sides who will soon be revealed as “traitors.” The Patriots are always in control.

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Vbusce 2 points ago +2 / -0

Eh. Pence is as good as Barr

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PassLord 2 points ago +2 / -0

When the electoral college process fails and it goes to a vote by the states, it only takes 26 people + the VP to elect the POTUS. That’s the kind of thing that could be done in a side room during an “insurrection.”

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Nowsthetime 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree with you. In any case, it’s something to think about. Many here do not agree, I’ve explained my point of view on this several times, but let’s see how things work out. I’m keeping an open mind.

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S11houette 2 points ago +2 / -0

Of course pence is compromised. We knew that the second the democrats started pushing impeachment we just didn't want to believe it.

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callmedesdinova 2 points ago +3 / -1

Pence diddles kids. Is that part of "the plan?"

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javixpimraj 2 points ago +2 / -0

Trump barely mentioning him after him seemingly betraying Trump when he most needed it, is the strongest part of your argument.

If all is as is being portrayed, Trump would never have shut up about him. Instead after a few "How disappointing"s, has he even mentioned Pence?

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AquaEyes777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Precisely! Thank you!!

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TewaPatriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

I could be wrong but I don't see patriots getting multimillion dollar book deals. Pence is DS. Trump administration knew he was the whole time.

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AquaEyes777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't think both scenarios are mutually exclusive. Pence can be deep state and everything else and still play a role for whatever reason. Also, the cards at the funeral probably all had different things written in them.

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tobeselfevident 2 points ago +2 / -0

I have been convinced of this for quite some time.

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SherryLusk 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think Pence's move might have played a role in God's plan, but I don't really believe Pence is a good guy. If he was a good guy, then he would have done the right thing that day.

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AquaEyes777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

But we wouldn't be able to eliminate the deep state that way. Trump has so much more power and leeway to affect things.

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SherryLusk 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah, that's why I think it was part of God's plan.

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Camden105b 2 points ago +2 / -0

I HOPE Pence turns out to be a good guy. But I don’t think he will. He is part of the Deep State, same as Barr. All he had to do was call for forensic audits across the land on Jan 6–they should’ve been ready to do so. We all knew the night of the election that they were cheating. We knew BEFORE the election that they were going to cheat. So, there is no excuse. We can make rationalizations for it by saying, “Look how much we know Now!” but that is just stupid because we can say that at ANY POINT IN TIME. Justice deferred is Justice denied,

My guess, is that while we all say NCSWIC, actually a lot of things have stopped it. We have been waiting patiently with popcorn for 3.5 years and much said has not been true—Not Sessions, Not Wray, Not B2 (Bill Barr). So while I love coming on here for the camaraderie, and it’s fun to dream about the Clintons at Gitmo, the fact is that the Biden administration is causing massive harm to this country and we are back to insanity by the Dems and rogue 3 letter agencies running amuck. And I blame Pence for letting this happen.

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AquaEyes777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Very true. But if Pence had not certified it we would not be able to remove the fraud and so magnificently show the populace how corrupt everything is. If Trump had been awarded the election somehow by Pence not certifying, where would we be? Trump would be stuck in office with an even crazier deep state. I just don't see how people think Pence not certifying the election is what should have happened! It's just crazy.

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ultra_star -1 points ago +1 / -2

Once Pence was revealed as pedo, he was WAAAAAY past the point of redemption. All he can do now to help is publish all he knows about his leftist masters and commit a dignified hari kari.

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Jolo 2 points ago +2 / -0

"it had to be this way"

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basilpesto 2 points ago +2 / -0

Pence is sort of like Epstein….

We all want Epstein buried for his crimes, but we know he’s giving us the intel, so we root for him not being dead and imagine him locked up somewhere in an undisclosed secret military prison. Every morning the warden arrives, carrying a cardboard tray into his cell… on it are 3 very non-spectacular times.

  1. A styrofoam bowl of Oatmeal, topped with 3 raisins, and a dash of Cinnamon

  2. Four sheets of yellow paper, with dark yellow grid lines

  3. A non-toxic crayon, blue, oil-based, 4.5”

“Good morning Mr Epstein, today is an opportune day. Today you will tell me about the character we here like to call ‘Judas’. You do know who I’m referring to yes? Good… now let’s get start with sheet #1. Oh, the oatmeal is rather warm, but you only get to eat it once sheet #4 is finished … both sides please. Do hurry, your insight into the Haiti trafficking ring was well received, I’d like to gear up as soon as possible.

OK, now let’s begin”

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DarQ2light 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm sold.