So does the HBO documentary even mention the Air Force One window proofs that Q posted to show continuity of source? Or do they just pretend that didn’t happen and then normie idiots who did none of their own research outside of watching a TV show on HBO come here thinking they’re the smartest guys in the room because THEY watch a little something called, ahem, H. B. O.
Just curious about the Air Force One window proofs. I haven't seen them yet. Just started going through the "Book of Q Proofs" pdf so haven't got very far yet. Are they in there?
Not sure about Book of Q Proofs, but look in the replies. u/Neverstoptrumping posted a link with more explanation. Praying Medic covered this in a video on YouTube back in the day, but that’s been deleted.
To be fair, most of us nonbelievers don’t think the photos prove Q was anywhere near AF1. I haven’t figured out how they’re supposed to prove anything.
Even if they are from AF1, professional photographers take hundreds of photos a session.
There are lots of professional photographers on AF1 literally every time the President uses it, taking thousands of photos, only a couple of which will ever be published. The rest probably end up on their blogs and in unedited Photobuckets and forgotten.
Fact is that there are almost certainly millions of photos of AF1 during Trump’s Presidency that are unpublished, and posting a couple of pictures of Trump that weren’t on CNN goes nowhere near proving Q was on that plane.
I have always been interested in smoking gun proof that Q MUST be an intelligence agent. I want to see a post that would have literally been impossible for a troll to write. But the supposed AF1 photos don’t really cut it for me.
I am looking for proof that makes it literally impossible for Q to be some unimpressive mid-20’s troll.
The entire body of work of Q is what proves that. There is no chance that an "unimpressive mid-20's troll" could have produced 5% of what Q did.
Q was an insider of some type. It could reasonably be debated which side Q was on, but the idea that he was just a troll, which implies no inside knowledge, only shows that you have not read much (or any) of Q's actual writings.
If you have not read any or much of Q's writing, and yet you have concluded that he might be an "unimpressive mid-20's troll," then it is reasonable to conclude that you are a troll.
I have read most, if not all of Q’s posts, and have been unable to prove that any of them couldn’t be fabricated by a bored news junkie.
That doesn’t make me a troll. From my perspective, it makes me a skeptic. From yours, it probably makes me an idiot.
But I’ve promised a lot of people here, including at least one mod, that I will be here if the Plan comes to fruition so you can all rub in my face how much smarter than me you are. So I intend to wait for the Plan and be here at the end, one way or the other.
I’m saying exactly the same thing that you guys are saying. I’m just saying that I reached a different conclusion using those methods. There is nothing remotely trollish about that. In fact, that is exactly how the scientific peer review process works.
First off, I wish people wouldn't downvote you and would like to thank you for actually engaging in a civil manner.
I'm sure we can all agree, left, right or center, that there are countless corrupt figures trying to screw all of us over without being held accountable.
As such, the only way to heal as a planet is to come together regardless of beliefs and to actually discuss, with a serious and open mind, the possibilities.
Thus, I am more than interested in knowing precisely what you have done in your attempt to research and what you have seen so far.
Would you care if I kindly asked you to start a thread in which you go into as much detail as you possibly can? I understand that this could take a lot of time out of your day, but perhaps that can help others fill in some gaps.
As far as 100% conclusive proof is concerned. I don't think that's possible without the person / group behind the account coming out and exposing the entire thing as real or larp.
That said, there are countless pieces of suspiciously precise coincidences. Now, given the volume of posts and the emphasis on "think mirror", time deltas and whatnot, it's the first valid working hypothesis is that someone is throwing shit around and seeing what sticks to the wall.
That explanation, however, quickly ceases to function due to the needlepoint precision of so many of those coincidences.
Which in turn leaves a number of possible options:
Q is real, the individual/team have access to certain key figures to make those coincidences (news, actions) possible, and:
Q is on "our" (e.g. the people, you included) side and uses the drops to various ends (different topic)
Q is an "enemy" or psyop
or
Q is a larp, and:
Several figures relevant to the news landscape decided, for whatever reason, to align news stories with Q drops
It's all a series of infinitesimally likely coincidences.
All that in mind, you have to sift through quite a volume of pieces of evidence to start getting a sense of what is happening, along with reading the drops themselves to get a clearer picture of what we're looking at if real.
Well, discussion is one thing, saying the same thing over and over is quite another. The "enlightened" attitude of smarminess they project is just annoying. They claim to want to save all the poor schmucks from believing a lie, thus proving they are smarter. They have the same attitude about Christianity, they want to "save us" from our religious delusion, b/c Richard Dawkins told them we believe in a spaghetti monster. The people that keep stating Q is a larp are the same people that spend 5 minutes reading the Bible(which now makes them a biblical expert), pull a scripture out apply it completely out of context, then say unilaterally religion is bad, and God is fill in the blank label to prove their point. There was a an idiot in the flat earth thread the other day doing just this.
They do the same with the Q drops. Pull out a random number drop, say this didn't happen therefore I.M. smart U R dum. They miss the entire message, not just parts of it. They miss the main point, and that is people who have the means to help, are doing just that, they know what is going on, and are alerting you to what is to come. Hmmm isn't God doing the same thing with the N.T., showing you how to correct yourself, and help others prior to what will come in revelations? You can't simply remove one number out of formula or equation, then say math doesn't work, you can't take a single drop out of the ocean and then claim there is no such thing, a cat or dog isn't a single hair.
The Q drops encompass a lot of information, taken at once it can be overwhelming, but there are parts of it everyone can understand w/o issue and b/c of that, you now have a starting point based on the things you do now. You can now start researching the things you don't know and tie it to what you already understand. That is the big key to the drops, YOU are doing the research and investigating, all we are given are slight nods, nudges, and bit of clarity, then we are off to the races. The drops got people to look for themselves instead of being spoon fed garbage as these young skulls full of mush are at the paid daycare, I mean university. Some of us have been looking into things that didn't make sense for quite a long time. The Q drops helped fill in the missing pieces, take any aha moment you have had, and that is what the Q drops enabled.
As far as proofs go, there are a lot of them. No, I am not going to list them out b/c at this point in time, if you don't know any of them you haven't been paying attention. There is a point when we need to stop going into remedial mode for every so called new person, who typically is a lefty trying to prove there is no such thing as Q. Peruse through the "book of Q"( it is poorly named imo), there are several very very good videos that lay out proofs.
Now if we could only get people to study the Bible in the same manner, we'll have made some serious progress.
I’ve been talking with the Q community since the 8chan days. I probably have more time around this than a lot of current GAW users. And I look at every piece of evidence that comes through, as far as I am able.
I don’t like the idea of making a giant thread with me tearing down Q, because that’s not really why I hang out here. I am just trying to see how we both look at the same piece of evidence and come to different conclusion.
I personally haven’t yet been able to prove Q is anything other than one of many trolls back in the 4chan days who claimed to be an anonymous insider. I don’t think that the “coincidences” are infinitesimally unlikely. I think that you guys are just interpreting anything that might seem related to a vague prophecy as being confirmed (confirmation bias).
How many different times have people here said, “watch the water” in response to a random news story involving water? Charles Flynn, the hospital ships off Cali, the Evergiven, flooding, and even the Texas ice storm.
And when none of those actually turned out to be anything productive for Q, it gets memory-holed until someone find that particular interpretation of “watch the water” useful again.
That’s why I’m trying to focus mostly on the smoking gun for Q. Because people have claimed a LOT of proof for non-falsifiable entities like Q or God by citing what they interpret to be a string of unlikely coincidences, rather than them seeing and interpreting non-events according to a worldview that is based on faith.
And downvoting doesn’t bother me. I have a thick-enough skin to handle disapproval. :)
Who Q is does not matter. What Q has done is what matters.
Millions now see that News, Finance, Politics, Health, Courts, Business, Pharmaceuticals, Banks.... are all connected by a dark purpose. Millions know blackmail controls the public face puppets. Millions understand false flag operations, can spot them, and can sometimes even counter those operations. Millions are prepared to resist because of Q.
Gee, I believe that falls under “Q Supporters ONLY” guideline? We don’t need to spend what little valuable time we get each day convincing or defending to a Reddit Q-denying faggot ANYTHING. You Sir, can fuck right-OFF 🖕🏻
How am I (or most of us) enabling their plan? We’re trying to wake people up toThe Plan To Save The World here. That’s not extremism or helping in any division. Maybe I’m missing your point, OP? And yes, I fully agree that an open/inquisitive mind is preferable to ANY extremist’s rhetoric. Aren’t we inquisitive? Reddit people who ADMIT they’re anti-Q aren’t open & inquisitive...they’re here to divide us.
We’re trying to wake people up toThe Plan To Save The World here.
By antagonizing even those who, despite believing otherwise, remain civil in discussing the issue?
Reddit people who ADMIT they’re anti-Q aren’t open & inquisitive...they’re here to divide us.
If I saw any such evidence from ARandomOgre I would be pointing it out. He raises fair points, though those are not free of well deserved critique. But his posts are unlike what I generally find on the Qult subreddit, which are really just FB tier shitposts.
Regardless, you're certainly not going to convince anyone of the very real enemy that we are facing by shitting on them for not believing in a batch of 4000 chan posts. It takes significant time and effort to study those and the entire establishment is dead-set on painting them as "flat earth lizard people" tier bullshit. If you want to wake people up, imagine you're them and then think of how you would react if the roles were reversed.
Maybe we live in different realities, but I doubt that telling people to fuck off or assuming you can mind-read their position and beliefs is going to be very fruitful in "trying to wake people up".
NCSWIC, so it really shouldn’t matter what I’m here to do as long as I’m being respectful. I am not interested in constantly reassuring people otherwise. Either trust Q that I am incapable of hurting your movement, or don’t.
LOL, they can take ZILLIONS of photos, lose 99.9996% in their "Photobuckets," but NONE of them them will show definitive proof of secret AF1 flights to N. Korea.
This "oh, I'm blind, and I makes teh different conclusions" act is wearing thin.
And I’m sure the thousands of proofs released by mike and co are not convincing enough for you too, if you were as smart as us you would realize that you’ve been lied to. And one day you’ll have to thank us for opening your eyes, we were the first to decipher the secret codes that super spy Q team sent us, it's funny to think that we are thought as crazy when it’s the rest of the world who is.
Do you really believe that Biden got millions of votes? My bet would be had maybe 25 millions votes maximum, Trump won
Instead of focusing on whether Q is legit or not, it would be better for everyone if you focused more on the crimes of the elite.
In the end, proof of Q is irrelevant. If you believe that almost all of the “news” outlets, including all the “right-wing” ones are flat out lying to you A LOT, then that’s what matters.
You believe your worst-case scenario is that Q is a psyop designed to pacify you.
But the non-Q world doesn’t even think Q is anybody. Just a troll. Just Watkins. Just some other unimpressive nobody.
Which is why they aren’t engaging with you. They aren’t scared of the truth. They just have absolutely no reason to invest their time and effort into the anonymous postings of a troll.
Proving Q’s identity as a high-level intelligence agent would be THE SINGLE GREATEST THING you could do to jumpstart the Great Awakening.
Because even if people thought Qposts are lunacy, they’ll still respect the credentials of someone who actually would have access to that info. At least enough to read his claims.
The world isn’t blind to the fact that rich criminals get away with stuff. We’ve all read Monte Cristo. We get it.
We just don’t have any reason to accept that Q has any special insight into this, because Q is an anonymous poster on the internet, and that’s literally all I can prove he is. Just an anonymous internet voice among billions.
You believe your worst-case scenario is that Q is a psyop designed to pacify you.
Actually, no I don’t, and I’ve never posted that ever.
But the non-Q world doesn’t even think Q is anybody. Just a troll. Just Watkins. Just some other unimpressive nobody.
I couldn’t care less, see my previous comment about what is more important.
Which is why they aren’t engaging with you.
Once again, I couldn’t care less. I don’t engage people on the street about Q, I engage them on the lies of the MSM and their controlled opposition, which is more important.
They aren’t scared of the truth. They just have absolutely no reason to invest their time and effort into the anonymous postings of a troll.
Once again, you conflate knowing truth with belief in Q. But I would say people who know the truth, and have read Q’s insight into that truth, are going to be closer to the truth, regardless of Q’s credentials, than someone who knows the truth, and has never heard of Q. This is just classic controlled-op counter narrative: attack the messenger and hope people ignore the message.
Proving Q’s identity as a high-level intelligence agent would be THE SINGLE GREATEST THING you could do to jumpstart the Great Awakening.
Yes but that path is denied by propaganda. Most people are programmed to search Qanon and the results are pages and pages of negative info about Q. If you think that’s the means to accomplish some great awakening, then you have no idea what drives this movement. Once again, uncovering the depths of the MSM lies to the public is of more importance, and most Q followers know how to do it without even mentioning Q.
The world isn’t blind to the fact that rich criminals get away with stuff. We’ve all read Monte Cristo. We get it.
And the MSM covers for them. I doubt you truly grasp the depths of the crimes involved and how coordinated they are, and level of government involvement with them, including the division tactics at play to pit you against me instead of the true criminals. And if you do, then you’re just here to troll for fun because you could care less.
There are plenty of rabbit holes that give just a glimpse of the evil we are dealing with to go down that existed before Q ever even posted. What we lacked before Q was guidance on what was bullshit and what was real. Sure, he was an anonymous poster and had no reason to be trusted, but when you piece the puzzle together understanding more fully how much we’ve been lied to by people we thought we could trust, the truth becomes apparent on its own. I’ve looked back at past world events I’ve lived through that made no sense to me at the time, that make a lot more sense now.
As I stated originally, proof of Q is meaningless at this stage. If that’s all you focus on then you ignore the reality of the situation and you completely misunderstand the message Q was trying to send to as many people as possible. There is a true reason Q content is attacked and heavily censored, and it’s not because of “fear of terrorism” or because “he’s a LARP” or “he’s a psyop”.
If Q was unmasked as a high-ranking intelligence agent and not a troll, that would be national news, probably international.
There is no way that gets stifled. None.
If for no other reason then Democrats would get to show that Q was a Trump official and that any violence or insurrections linked to Q supporters is now linked to a movement run by a Trump intelligence official. The MSM wouldn’t be able to help itself but to legitimize Q supporters by legitimizing Q himself with an identity.
But it would still convince people to actually read his stuff. If Q has the Truth, then being unmasked can only make the movement stronger.
And there is a zero percent chance that if you guys can prove who he is, that this would get buried. I’d be right there on your side helping get the word out.
I’m moving on. If you want to discuss how controlled the MSM and their controlled opposition is, their propaganda, how it is all connected, and how we fight back against it, I’m all ears.
If your obsessed with proving Q is who he claims to be, you’ve lost focus and wasting your time.
The amount of time you spend here is highly suspicious, don't you think?
What would motivate a person to spend hours on a forum full of people they disagree with, contributing nothing to the conversation, and taking brick after brick to the face in the form of logical retorts to your obtuse statements??
Surely no reasonable person would do what you do without achieving some sort of personal benefit. Maybe if a person were deathly afraid of Q being real, there could be a psychological factor. Fear is a hell of a motivator - even more so than cash.
If that is the case, and I’m just afraid of the truth, then I’m right where I should be. Since many of you see yourself as shepherds for exactly the frightened sheep you believe me to be.
I don’t blame you guys for being distrustful, but I am not out to get you. I don’t think you’re capable of trusting anyone who doesn’t agree with you, so I’m pretty accepting of it at this point.
I don't think he is Q, but what do you think about him saying he's Q at the end of the documentary? He slipped up and the guy called him out on it then he didn't deny it.
Ron is a grifter. He was so wrong on so many things after November 3rd. The stuff in Georgia. Just seem like he was a hopium dealer. On that same note maybe I am so angry about everything that I do use Ron a scapegoat. Lol
They're working several forums. Like poal.co and voat.xyz (the new voat) - both forums that are truly uncensored. Their goal is to silence Q proponents. And they glow really hard.
They are a bunch of moms basement reddit people who act like this q thing is to pacify everyone, but they are living in basements with no action taken at all, on any level.
I love that these guys keep saying Ron is Q, like that isn't the fucking craziest possibility. Imagine thinking the guy in charge of an anime tiddy board has control of the President of the USA, predicted John McCain's death one month before it happened, and is crashing planes over the Rothschild's house.
It's absurd to think Ron Watkins is Q, but what always sticks out to me about the identity of Q is all of the behind the scenes photos that were posted. The pen and watch photo, the photo reflecting inside the oval office, the photos from Air Force One, etc. Obviously Q or members of Q is somebody with close access to Trump, not Ron Watkins.
The Q team is real. That's been proven to me beyond a shadow of a doubt. What isn't real to me is that we are winning. What was promised to all be a show is all too real. This isn't a movie. Tens of thousands are dead, millions are being threatened with serious injury, death, and financial ruin. My wife and I are personally on the verge of losing everything. Real or not real, plan or no plan, what those in charge are doing to my family and to the American people is Evil. If this is the plan, fuck the plan.
You need to go back and study/re-read the Q posts. The Q team never said it was going to be peace and love for everyone and we all make it to the finish line. They explicitly stated multiple times we are in the greatest WAR in the history of mankind. They told us humanity would be pushed to the "precipice" before Justice happens. They told us 4-6% would be "lost forever". Just know that no matter what happens God wins in the end and all will be ok. Never stop praying. God bless. WWG1WGA!
I don't need to do anything. As a matter of fact. I don't need to understand how the cake was made to know it tastes like shit. You may be willing to sacrifice 4-6% of the worlds' population, but I am not. That's Evil with a capital E. I refuse to accept that that side of God would willingly murder that many people to claim whatever hollow victory it would be.
Okay, so what are you going to do about it? You can’t bitch and complain about how you’re not going to take it and how precious your time is and expect someone to come save you.
If you’re fed up, do something about it instead of LARPing online on Q boards.
You think I'm pretending to be upset? This is exactly what the problem is. I bring up facts and you throw out insults. Thanks. I'm sure insulting each other will fix the problem.
You are falling in their trap, the plan is real and we actually already won, do you think that the greatest team of spies and our genius Trump would let the country go to shit? You are believing the MSM, the country is doing fine and patriots never lost control, this a smoke screen and you have to keep fighting with us , we are a key part of the plan and maybe the greatest heroes of our lifetime
We've won by destroying people's lives? By the time whatever plan comes to completion there won't be anything left to save. The plan isn't supposed to be a suicide pack and Q isn't Jesus Christ. He doesn't get my devotion or even my trust. At the end of the day, people's lives are being destroyed, and I see absolutely NOTHING being done about it. If millions of innocent people have to be sacrificed for this plan then I'm out.
What is your source for millions of lives destroyed ??? The MSM I guess, you should know by now that we are watching a movie, a lot of what you seem to believe is just a show organized by the Q team to confuse the DS, patriots are in control, have faith in our lord Christ, he would never let this dirty satanic cabal destroy our wonderful country
Better dead then? Is that your point? There is no waking up from that. It's not a matter of a little suffering here and there, so people can understand what Evil is capable of. People are dying. People who have taken oaths to prevent this are doing nothing. I remember when it was no man left behind. Now it, sacrifice however many innocent people as needed to win. Fuck that plan.
I know people have it MUCH worse than me. I'm just ranting. I've actually prayed to God for an answer and I received it. I will NEVER give up my convictions. I WILL hold the line. No matter what hardships come.
Hahahaha! HBO has no clue that Q-Drops tie to The United States Law of War Manual! And the Drops are in no certain order due to Future Proves Past. Q is not a person per Juan O’Savin. Q is a quantum computer kicking out the highest algorithm probabilities through Quantum Bundling and possibly future Quantum Echos (look that up interesting). Plus no matter what the Cabal does now or they know, it’s already all over for them! They’ve been caught, all of them! HBO also doesn’t know crap about the French Underground, WWII Code Talkers, or Hanoi Hannah for that matter! How quickly people forget how messages are sent back/forth to allies. This is why they’ll lose in the end no matter what they think. God bless our Patriots and God bless America! WWG1WGA.
Look, the Deep State is, without a shadow of a doubt, real. Epstein's "suicide" makes it pretty apparent. Is a team, aware of it's inner workings fighting back from the shadows really that much of a stretch?
Because there is a high probability that any of us would be one if we were born in a slightly different environment.
Many know this from their own friends and families. To others it's just common sense.
Whatever the case may be, the elites are playing divide and conquer. We divide ourselves, they win, period.
Without the DS constantly fueling the flames, most of us would very quickly agree to live and let live. In the cities nobody gives a shit about homesteads beyond watching some on Youtube. Further out, nobody gives a shit about who larps as what gender if it's not shoved down their kids' throats.
All the problems are planted and exacerbated by the actual enemy of all people.
If you don't know your enemy you're going to have a hard time waging war against them.
Few greater weapons than discrediting propaganda by highlighting how heavily flawed it is exist.
The fact that anyone can register here and pretend to be a Q supporter in an effort to create screencaps for their QultHeadquarters should give anyone pause to ponder.
Anyone who recently woke up, or is on the verge of waking up, will likely not have considered the myriad of different ways to gaslight the public.
Is propaganda still effective to the perspective of someone who knows that it is propaganda? Fuck no. Lmao you’re retarded. Propaganda only works if you’re a moron and all of the people on here already have a good eye for it so it is ineffective against most of us. Idk why you’re tripping out about this lol
Propaganda works when people don’t push back on it. Bringing bs to light is the only way to counter it. Staying silent is precisely why it’s gotten this bad, because we’ve allowed one side to parrot talking points uncontested.
You're right in the sense that if it were proven then obviously there's nothing left but to admit it.
The thread is more about the Qultists (note especially the other handshake, who looks much more like a shill than a researcher) cherry-picking random screencaps and twisting them into fuel for their deranged delusions about what is going on here.
Their cute little subreddit is a prime example of an echo chamber circle jerk void of logic and reason. They might as well be Facebook moms sharing bullshit about the moon being in retrograde.
You're absolutely right man. Reminds me of when I first started lurking GAW in early 2021.
I remember appreciating your guys willingness to talk openly about the various Documentaries that have been put out to discredit and gaslight the Q movement. It really did help build an effective framework for being able to see that if Q was truly tied into the highest levels of military intelligence these are the exact kinds of amateur, surface level "debunking" and smear campaigns one would expect to see.
Nah man, that cuck isn’t Q. I can assure you. Go watch the Vice version and you can see the cucks trying way too hard at bad acting to say that Ron is Q
So does the HBO documentary even mention the Air Force One window proofs that Q posted to show continuity of source? Or do they just pretend that didn’t happen and then normie idiots who did none of their own research outside of watching a TV show on HBO come here thinking they’re the smartest guys in the room because THEY watch a little something called, ahem, H. B. O.
Just curious about the Air Force One window proofs. I haven't seen them yet. Just started going through the "Book of Q Proofs" pdf so haven't got very far yet. Are they in there?
Check out "Ultimate Q Proofs Volume 1" on Rumble. It took me from being Q-neutral to being bi-Qurious.
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Not sure about Book of Q Proofs, but look in the replies. u/Neverstoptrumping posted a link with more explanation. Praying Medic covered this in a video on YouTube back in the day, but that’s been deleted.
To be fair, most of us nonbelievers don’t think the photos prove Q was anywhere near AF1. I haven’t figured out how they’re supposed to prove anything.
Even if they are from AF1, professional photographers take hundreds of photos a session.
There are lots of professional photographers on AF1 literally every time the President uses it, taking thousands of photos, only a couple of which will ever be published. The rest probably end up on their blogs and in unedited Photobuckets and forgotten.
Fact is that there are almost certainly millions of photos of AF1 during Trump’s Presidency that are unpublished, and posting a couple of pictures of Trump that weren’t on CNN goes nowhere near proving Q was on that plane.
I have always been interested in smoking gun proof that Q MUST be an intelligence agent. I want to see a post that would have literally been impossible for a troll to write. But the supposed AF1 photos don’t really cut it for me.
I think he means him and his sock-puppets.
Yes.
Well… correct… I base my beliefs about reality on evidence. I don’t pick which evidence to accept based on my beliefs.
I am looking for proof that Q MUST be who he claims to be, someone with access to the info he claims to have.
I am looking for proof that makes it literally impossible for Q to be some unimpressive mid-20’s troll.
I am not rejecting the AF1 photos because they don’t support MY belief. I’m still looking at the evidence.
I am rejecting those photos because as far as I can tell, they don’t support YOUR belief.
The entire body of work of Q is what proves that. There is no chance that an "unimpressive mid-20's troll" could have produced 5% of what Q did.
Q was an insider of some type. It could reasonably be debated which side Q was on, but the idea that he was just a troll, which implies no inside knowledge, only shows that you have not read much (or any) of Q's actual writings.
If you have not read any or much of Q's writing, and yet you have concluded that he might be an "unimpressive mid-20's troll," then it is reasonable to conclude that you are a troll.
I have read most, if not all of Q’s posts, and have been unable to prove that any of them couldn’t be fabricated by a bored news junkie.
That doesn’t make me a troll. From my perspective, it makes me a skeptic. From yours, it probably makes me an idiot.
But I’ve promised a lot of people here, including at least one mod, that I will be here if the Plan comes to fruition so you can all rub in my face how much smarter than me you are. So I intend to wait for the Plan and be here at the end, one way or the other.
I’m saying exactly the same thing that you guys are saying. I’m just saying that I reached a different conclusion using those methods. There is nothing remotely trollish about that. In fact, that is exactly how the scientific peer review process works.
First off, I wish people wouldn't downvote you and would like to thank you for actually engaging in a civil manner.
I'm sure we can all agree, left, right or center, that there are countless corrupt figures trying to screw all of us over without being held accountable.
As such, the only way to heal as a planet is to come together regardless of beliefs and to actually discuss, with a serious and open mind, the possibilities.
Thus, I am more than interested in knowing precisely what you have done in your attempt to research and what you have seen so far.
Would you care if I kindly asked you to start a thread in which you go into as much detail as you possibly can? I understand that this could take a lot of time out of your day, but perhaps that can help others fill in some gaps.
As far as 100% conclusive proof is concerned. I don't think that's possible without the person / group behind the account coming out and exposing the entire thing as real or larp.
That said, there are countless pieces of suspiciously precise coincidences. Now, given the volume of posts and the emphasis on "think mirror", time deltas and whatnot, it's the first valid working hypothesis is that someone is throwing shit around and seeing what sticks to the wall.
That explanation, however, quickly ceases to function due to the needlepoint precision of so many of those coincidences.
Which in turn leaves a number of possible options:
Q is real, the individual/team have access to certain key figures to make those coincidences (news, actions) possible, and:
or
Q is a larp, and:
All that in mind, you have to sift through quite a volume of pieces of evidence to start getting a sense of what is happening, along with reading the drops themselves to get a clearer picture of what we're looking at if real.
Well, discussion is one thing, saying the same thing over and over is quite another. The "enlightened" attitude of smarminess they project is just annoying. They claim to want to save all the poor schmucks from believing a lie, thus proving they are smarter. They have the same attitude about Christianity, they want to "save us" from our religious delusion, b/c Richard Dawkins told them we believe in a spaghetti monster. The people that keep stating Q is a larp are the same people that spend 5 minutes reading the Bible(which now makes them a biblical expert), pull a scripture out apply it completely out of context, then say unilaterally religion is bad, and God is fill in the blank label to prove their point. There was a an idiot in the flat earth thread the other day doing just this.
They do the same with the Q drops. Pull out a random number drop, say this didn't happen therefore I.M. smart U R dum. They miss the entire message, not just parts of it. They miss the main point, and that is people who have the means to help, are doing just that, they know what is going on, and are alerting you to what is to come. Hmmm isn't God doing the same thing with the N.T., showing you how to correct yourself, and help others prior to what will come in revelations? You can't simply remove one number out of formula or equation, then say math doesn't work, you can't take a single drop out of the ocean and then claim there is no such thing, a cat or dog isn't a single hair.
The Q drops encompass a lot of information, taken at once it can be overwhelming, but there are parts of it everyone can understand w/o issue and b/c of that, you now have a starting point based on the things you do now. You can now start researching the things you don't know and tie it to what you already understand. That is the big key to the drops, YOU are doing the research and investigating, all we are given are slight nods, nudges, and bit of clarity, then we are off to the races. The drops got people to look for themselves instead of being spoon fed garbage as these young skulls full of mush are at the paid daycare, I mean university. Some of us have been looking into things that didn't make sense for quite a long time. The Q drops helped fill in the missing pieces, take any aha moment you have had, and that is what the Q drops enabled.
As far as proofs go, there are a lot of them. No, I am not going to list them out b/c at this point in time, if you don't know any of them you haven't been paying attention. There is a point when we need to stop going into remedial mode for every so called new person, who typically is a lefty trying to prove there is no such thing as Q. Peruse through the "book of Q"( it is poorly named imo), there are several very very good videos that lay out proofs.
Now if we could only get people to study the Bible in the same manner, we'll have made some serious progress.
I’ve been talking with the Q community since the 8chan days. I probably have more time around this than a lot of current GAW users. And I look at every piece of evidence that comes through, as far as I am able.
I don’t like the idea of making a giant thread with me tearing down Q, because that’s not really why I hang out here. I am just trying to see how we both look at the same piece of evidence and come to different conclusion.
I personally haven’t yet been able to prove Q is anything other than one of many trolls back in the 4chan days who claimed to be an anonymous insider. I don’t think that the “coincidences” are infinitesimally unlikely. I think that you guys are just interpreting anything that might seem related to a vague prophecy as being confirmed (confirmation bias).
How many different times have people here said, “watch the water” in response to a random news story involving water? Charles Flynn, the hospital ships off Cali, the Evergiven, flooding, and even the Texas ice storm.
And when none of those actually turned out to be anything productive for Q, it gets memory-holed until someone find that particular interpretation of “watch the water” useful again.
That’s why I’m trying to focus mostly on the smoking gun for Q. Because people have claimed a LOT of proof for non-falsifiable entities like Q or God by citing what they interpret to be a string of unlikely coincidences, rather than them seeing and interpreting non-events according to a worldview that is based on faith.
And downvoting doesn’t bother me. I have a thick-enough skin to handle disapproval. :)
Who Q is does not matter. What Q has done is what matters.
Millions now see that News, Finance, Politics, Health, Courts, Business, Pharmaceuticals, Banks.... are all connected by a dark purpose. Millions know blackmail controls the public face puppets. Millions understand false flag operations, can spot them, and can sometimes even counter those operations. Millions are prepared to resist because of Q.
Gee, I believe that falls under “Q Supporters ONLY” guideline? We don’t need to spend what little valuable time we get each day convincing or defending to a Reddit Q-denying faggot ANYTHING. You Sir, can fuck right-OFF 🖕🏻
I'd take an open and inquisitive mind over either side's extremists any day.
Their game is divide and conquer. You're part of the people enabling them and their plan.
How am I (or most of us) enabling their plan? We’re trying to wake people up toThe Plan To Save The World here. That’s not extremism or helping in any division. Maybe I’m missing your point, OP? And yes, I fully agree that an open/inquisitive mind is preferable to ANY extremist’s rhetoric. Aren’t we inquisitive? Reddit people who ADMIT they’re anti-Q aren’t open & inquisitive...they’re here to divide us.
Correct...
By antagonizing even those who, despite believing otherwise, remain civil in discussing the issue?
If I saw any such evidence from ARandomOgre I would be pointing it out. He raises fair points, though those are not free of well deserved critique. But his posts are unlike what I generally find on the Qult subreddit, which are really just FB tier shitposts.
Regardless, you're certainly not going to convince anyone of the very real enemy that we are facing by shitting on them for not believing in a batch of 4000 chan posts. It takes significant time and effort to study those and the entire establishment is dead-set on painting them as "flat earth lizard people" tier bullshit. If you want to wake people up, imagine you're them and then think of how you would react if the roles were reversed.
Maybe we live in different realities, but I doubt that telling people to fuck off or assuming you can mind-read their position and beliefs is going to be very fruitful in "trying to wake people up".
ARandomOgre only pretends to be inquisitive. If you engage him directly he will flake out and go back to his weak attempts to undermine our community.
Make no mistake - he's here to deceive, not to learn.
NCSWIC, so it really shouldn’t matter what I’m here to do as long as I’m being respectful. I am not interested in constantly reassuring people otherwise. Either trust Q that I am incapable of hurting your movement, or don’t.
Thought the flair the mods helpfully provided in bright red letters would have given it away, but I will no longer operate under that assumption.
That makes sense and I hadn’t considered that. As I said, I will not make the assumption that the flair is visible to everyone anymore.
LOL, they can take ZILLIONS of photos, lose 99.9996% in their "Photobuckets," but NONE of them them will show definitive proof of secret AF1 flights to N. Korea.
This "oh, I'm blind, and I makes teh different conclusions" act is wearing thin.
And I’m sure the thousands of proofs released by mike and co are not convincing enough for you too, if you were as smart as us you would realize that you’ve been lied to. And one day you’ll have to thank us for opening your eyes, we were the first to decipher the secret codes that super spy Q team sent us, it's funny to think that we are thought as crazy when it’s the rest of the world who is. Do you really believe that Biden got millions of votes? My bet would be had maybe 25 millions votes maximum, Trump won
Airman Lindell says Biden received 68million votes.
I would bet he got 4 or 5 millions at most
kek
Instead of focusing on whether Q is legit or not, it would be better for everyone if you focused more on the crimes of the elite.
In the end, proof of Q is irrelevant. If you believe that almost all of the “news” outlets, including all the “right-wing” ones are flat out lying to you A LOT, then that’s what matters.
Oh, I disagree.
You believe your worst-case scenario is that Q is a psyop designed to pacify you.
But the non-Q world doesn’t even think Q is anybody. Just a troll. Just Watkins. Just some other unimpressive nobody.
Which is why they aren’t engaging with you. They aren’t scared of the truth. They just have absolutely no reason to invest their time and effort into the anonymous postings of a troll.
Proving Q’s identity as a high-level intelligence agent would be THE SINGLE GREATEST THING you could do to jumpstart the Great Awakening.
Because even if people thought Qposts are lunacy, they’ll still respect the credentials of someone who actually would have access to that info. At least enough to read his claims.
The world isn’t blind to the fact that rich criminals get away with stuff. We’ve all read Monte Cristo. We get it.
We just don’t have any reason to accept that Q has any special insight into this, because Q is an anonymous poster on the internet, and that’s literally all I can prove he is. Just an anonymous internet voice among billions.
Actually, no I don’t, and I’ve never posted that ever.
I couldn’t care less, see my previous comment about what is more important.
Once again, I couldn’t care less. I don’t engage people on the street about Q, I engage them on the lies of the MSM and their controlled opposition, which is more important.
Once again, you conflate knowing truth with belief in Q. But I would say people who know the truth, and have read Q’s insight into that truth, are going to be closer to the truth, regardless of Q’s credentials, than someone who knows the truth, and has never heard of Q. This is just classic controlled-op counter narrative: attack the messenger and hope people ignore the message.
Yes but that path is denied by propaganda. Most people are programmed to search Qanon and the results are pages and pages of negative info about Q. If you think that’s the means to accomplish some great awakening, then you have no idea what drives this movement. Once again, uncovering the depths of the MSM lies to the public is of more importance, and most Q followers know how to do it without even mentioning Q.
And the MSM covers for them. I doubt you truly grasp the depths of the crimes involved and how coordinated they are, and level of government involvement with them, including the division tactics at play to pit you against me instead of the true criminals. And if you do, then you’re just here to troll for fun because you could care less.
There are plenty of rabbit holes that give just a glimpse of the evil we are dealing with to go down that existed before Q ever even posted. What we lacked before Q was guidance on what was bullshit and what was real. Sure, he was an anonymous poster and had no reason to be trusted, but when you piece the puzzle together understanding more fully how much we’ve been lied to by people we thought we could trust, the truth becomes apparent on its own. I’ve looked back at past world events I’ve lived through that made no sense to me at the time, that make a lot more sense now.
As I stated originally, proof of Q is meaningless at this stage. If that’s all you focus on then you ignore the reality of the situation and you completely misunderstand the message Q was trying to send to as many people as possible. There is a true reason Q content is attacked and heavily censored, and it’s not because of “fear of terrorism” or because “he’s a LARP” or “he’s a psyop”.
The simple answer is this:
If Q was unmasked as a high-ranking intelligence agent and not a troll, that would be national news, probably international.
There is no way that gets stifled. None.
If for no other reason then Democrats would get to show that Q was a Trump official and that any violence or insurrections linked to Q supporters is now linked to a movement run by a Trump intelligence official. The MSM wouldn’t be able to help itself but to legitimize Q supporters by legitimizing Q himself with an identity.
But it would still convince people to actually read his stuff. If Q has the Truth, then being unmasked can only make the movement stronger.
And there is a zero percent chance that if you guys can prove who he is, that this would get buried. I’d be right there on your side helping get the word out.
None of what you wish is going to happen.
I’m moving on. If you want to discuss how controlled the MSM and their controlled opposition is, their propaganda, how it is all connected, and how we fight back against it, I’m all ears.
If your obsessed with proving Q is who he claims to be, you’ve lost focus and wasting your time.
We’ll see. But I suspect we wouldn’t disagree about the media and how it’s used by the elites.
The amount of time you spend here is highly suspicious, don't you think?
What would motivate a person to spend hours on a forum full of people they disagree with, contributing nothing to the conversation, and taking brick after brick to the face in the form of logical retorts to your obtuse statements??
Surely no reasonable person would do what you do without achieving some sort of personal benefit. Maybe if a person were deathly afraid of Q being real, there could be a psychological factor. Fear is a hell of a motivator - even more so than cash.
If that is the case, and I’m just afraid of the truth, then I’m right where I should be. Since many of you see yourself as shepherds for exactly the frightened sheep you believe me to be.
You are not a sheep, you are a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Albeit, a weak and pathetic wolf with no fangs whose only means of attack is by deception.
I don’t blame you guys for being distrustful, but I am not out to get you. I don’t think you’re capable of trusting anyone who doesn’t agree with you, so I’m pretty accepting of it at this point.
I don't think he is Q, but what do you think about him saying he's Q at the end of the documentary? He slipped up and the guy called him out on it then he didn't deny it.
Ron is a grifter. He was so wrong on so many things after November 3rd. The stuff in Georgia. Just seem like he was a hopium dealer. On that same note maybe I am so angry about everything that I do use Ron a scapegoat. Lol
Yeah, I always hear habbenings and coming soon from CodeMonkey and 9/10 fails to deliver
Reddit is here.
Is Reddit similar to the F_I or C_A? If so, then I would like to welcome our newest faggots to our lil’ club.
F_G
They're working several forums. Like poal.co and voat.xyz (the new voat) - both forums that are truly uncensored. Their goal is to silence Q proponents. And they glow really hard.
They are a bunch of moms basement reddit people who act like this q thing is to pacify everyone, but they are living in basements with no action taken at all, on any level.
They don't even know who their real oppressors are.
they seem really confused.
I love that these guys keep saying Ron is Q, like that isn't the fucking craziest possibility. Imagine thinking the guy in charge of an anime tiddy board has control of the President of the USA, predicted John McCain's death one month before it happened, and is crashing planes over the Rothschild's house.
Not to mention unique pictures from within Air Force 1 and GEOTUS
Tiddies are also an intentional meme misspelling of titties.
I can't tell if some people on reddit are actual people who are so far behind, or if they're some sort of paid actor/shill/bot
Shills activate their almonds, then Reddit fags act smug because they’re caught up on their latest narrative updates.
Ron isn't Q. That's disinformation.
Next....
Does Ron know he's not Q?
Of course. Do you?
Lmao. HBO...even if it were to be Ron, these guys made a documentary to try to disprove something they are afraid of. The left are pussies.
Lol....I totally understand why people are confused.
But this is some low IQ shit for reals.
It's absurd to think Ron Watkins is Q, but what always sticks out to me about the identity of Q is all of the behind the scenes photos that were posted. The pen and watch photo, the photo reflecting inside the oval office, the photos from Air Force One, etc. Obviously Q or members of Q is somebody with close access to Trump, not Ron Watkins.
The Q team is real. That's been proven to me beyond a shadow of a doubt. What isn't real to me is that we are winning. What was promised to all be a show is all too real. This isn't a movie. Tens of thousands are dead, millions are being threatened with serious injury, death, and financial ruin. My wife and I are personally on the verge of losing everything. Real or not real, plan or no plan, what those in charge are doing to my family and to the American people is Evil. If this is the plan, fuck the plan.
You need to go back and study/re-read the Q posts. The Q team never said it was going to be peace and love for everyone and we all make it to the finish line. They explicitly stated multiple times we are in the greatest WAR in the history of mankind. They told us humanity would be pushed to the "precipice" before Justice happens. They told us 4-6% would be "lost forever". Just know that no matter what happens God wins in the end and all will be ok. Never stop praying. God bless. WWG1WGA!
I don't need to do anything. As a matter of fact. I don't need to understand how the cake was made to know it tastes like shit. You may be willing to sacrifice 4-6% of the worlds' population, but I am not. That's Evil with a capital E. I refuse to accept that that side of God would willingly murder that many people to claim whatever hollow victory it would be.
You really do need to go back and read the Q posts. 4-6% being "lost" doesn't refer to deaths, it refers to sheep who will never wake up.
Okay, so what are you going to do about it? You can’t bitch and complain about how you’re not going to take it and how precious your time is and expect someone to come save you.
If you’re fed up, do something about it instead of LARPing online on Q boards.
You think I'm pretending to be upset? This is exactly what the problem is. I bring up facts and you throw out insults. Thanks. I'm sure insulting each other will fix the problem.
You are falling in their trap, the plan is real and we actually already won, do you think that the greatest team of spies and our genius Trump would let the country go to shit? You are believing the MSM, the country is doing fine and patriots never lost control, this a smoke screen and you have to keep fighting with us , we are a key part of the plan and maybe the greatest heroes of our lifetime
We've won by destroying people's lives? By the time whatever plan comes to completion there won't be anything left to save. The plan isn't supposed to be a suicide pack and Q isn't Jesus Christ. He doesn't get my devotion or even my trust. At the end of the day, people's lives are being destroyed, and I see absolutely NOTHING being done about it. If millions of innocent people have to be sacrificed for this plan then I'm out.
What is your source for millions of lives destroyed ??? The MSM I guess, you should know by now that we are watching a movie, a lot of what you seem to believe is just a show organized by the Q team to confuse the DS, patriots are in control, have faith in our lord Christ, he would never let this dirty satanic cabal destroy our wonderful country
Better dead then? Is that your point? There is no waking up from that. It's not a matter of a little suffering here and there, so people can understand what Evil is capable of. People are dying. People who have taken oaths to prevent this are doing nothing. I remember when it was no man left behind. Now it, sacrifice however many innocent people as needed to win. Fuck that plan.
I know people have it MUCH worse than me. I'm just ranting. I've actually prayed to God for an answer and I received it. I will NEVER give up my convictions. I WILL hold the line. No matter what hardships come.
Which rule am I disobeying exactly?
What is a handshake account? I’ve seen the logo next to usernames on here but I’m still confused as to what being a handshake account means.
Newly registered accounts are handshakes.
Gotcha, thank you!
My understanding is that it's a new user/account. You'll see the same thing on here for new accounts.
Ahhhh I understand now. Thank you!
If they have a handshake next to their name they're a handshake. New accounts get it until they're old enough/have enough karma.
I thought they were spam accounts, not new. Thank you!
Did the HBO doc have any evidence other than their smoking gun of Ron Watkins saying "I am not Q."?
Excellent example! Usually we just downvote, comment & go. I appreciate your sharing!
It's HBO. The documentary is as truthful as one produced by any other cabal network.
Who the F on this board thinks Ron is Q? That's just stupid. Can we just delete the retard and move on?
I love how they talk about Q as if they've done a scintilla of research or read the posts..🙄
Hahahaha! HBO has no clue that Q-Drops tie to The United States Law of War Manual! And the Drops are in no certain order due to Future Proves Past. Q is not a person per Juan O’Savin. Q is a quantum computer kicking out the highest algorithm probabilities through Quantum Bundling and possibly future Quantum Echos (look that up interesting). Plus no matter what the Cabal does now or they know, it’s already all over for them! They’ve been caught, all of them! HBO also doesn’t know crap about the French Underground, WWII Code Talkers, or Hanoi Hannah for that matter! How quickly people forget how messages are sent back/forth to allies. This is why they’ll lose in the end no matter what they think. God bless our Patriots and God bless America! WWG1WGA.
Yes, spoon-feed me my thoughts. Of course I will accept them as gospel. I have no ability to think for myself. Yes, more please.
rooftopendie posts here as well....no?
Mr. Watkins goes with the winds
Look, the Deep State is, without a shadow of a doubt, real. Epstein's "suicide" makes it pretty apparent. Is a team, aware of it's inner workings fighting back from the shadows really that much of a stretch?
I dont understand why we care so much about these normies?
Because there is a high probability that any of us would be one if we were born in a slightly different environment.
Many know this from their own friends and families. To others it's just common sense.
Whatever the case may be, the elites are playing divide and conquer. We divide ourselves, they win, period.
Without the DS constantly fueling the flames, most of us would very quickly agree to live and let live. In the cities nobody gives a shit about homesteads beyond watching some on Youtube. Further out, nobody gives a shit about who larps as what gender if it's not shoved down their kids' throats.
All the problems are planted and exacerbated by the actual enemy of all people.
Where we go ONE
Are you so feeble minded that you can't make fun of idiots when you see them without worrying of becoming one?
If you don't know your enemy you're going to have a hard time waging war against them.
Few greater weapons than discrediting propaganda by highlighting how heavily flawed it is exist.
The fact that anyone can register here and pretend to be a Q supporter in an effort to create screencaps for their QultHeadquarters should give anyone pause to ponder.
Anyone who recently woke up, or is on the verge of waking up, will likely not have considered the myriad of different ways to gaslight the public.
I am pointing out one of them.
Is propaganda still effective to the perspective of someone who knows that it is propaganda? Fuck no. Lmao you’re retarded. Propaganda only works if you’re a moron and all of the people on here already have a good eye for it so it is ineffective against most of us. Idk why you’re tripping out about this lol
Pretty sure I didn't inject anyone and specifically told them how it works.
Propaganda works when people don’t push back on it. Bringing bs to light is the only way to counter it. Staying silent is precisely why it’s gotten this bad, because we’ve allowed one side to parrot talking points uncontested.
Oh my friend.
We. Are. At. War. So. Many. Cannot. See. They. Are. Blindly. Obedient.
Shill, gtfo
You're right in the sense that if it were proven then obviously there's nothing left but to admit it.
The thread is more about the Qultists (note especially the other handshake, who looks much more like a shill than a researcher) cherry-picking random screencaps and twisting them into fuel for their deranged delusions about what is going on here.
Their cute little subreddit is a prime example of an echo chamber circle jerk void of logic and reason. They might as well be Facebook moms sharing bullshit about the moon being in retrograde.
You're absolutely right man. Reminds me of when I first started lurking GAW in early 2021.
I remember appreciating your guys willingness to talk openly about the various Documentaries that have been put out to discredit and gaslight the Q movement. It really did help build an effective framework for being able to see that if Q was truly tied into the highest levels of military intelligence these are the exact kinds of amateur, surface level "debunking" and smear campaigns one would expect to see.
Q isn’t one guy…understand THAT.
Nah man, that cuck isn’t Q. I can assure you. Go watch the Vice version and you can see the cucks trying way too hard at bad acting to say that Ron is Q