A close family member angrily told me last night that my wife, children and I are no longer welcome around her and her children (and MY PARENTS!) until we are all fully vaccinated. She called us "selfish idiots". She interrupted every factual objection I attempted to raise about the vax with "Fauci says...."
I asked her if she had read Fauci's emails. HER: "What emails are you talking about?" ME: "The 1000+ released through a FOIA request several weeks ago." HER: "Oh, don't be ridiculous. Those emails were debunked." ME: "How so?" HER: click.
It is disgusting and heart breaking how the MSM has brainwashed the masses and caused mass psychosis and panic. Common sense and logic have been completely abandoned.
I have not encountered a single liberal or vax zealot that is willing or able to have an actual rational and fact based discussion on any topic that is counter to the narratives. I give up.
Sometimes I feel as though people like this have already died, their bodies just haven't caught up yet, but mentally, they are gone. I'm sorry you are dealing with this.
If you are this afraid of dying to the point where you don't dare living...I agree, they are already dead.
Yes! That was the point I made when speaking at the school board meeting. We are teaching our children to live in fear even when the odds are in your favor. I am choosing not to live in fear.
Gosh I say this every day...people have become so afraid to die that they are afraid to live!!
Don't Teach Fear.
It ought to be the God people who are unafraid to die, since they're going to heaven, and the goat fuckers who are afraid, since they're going to hell. People are doing this shit backward.
Honk honk
This God people is not afraid to die. I know what and who are waiting for me on the other side.
I'm so looking forward to it!
Remember, the whole reason some of them is doing this is the promise of immortality.
Many actually think if they do enough they will live forever, and therefore exempt from fire pits and eternal damnation (or at least live long enough on earth they won't care).
There's a comic strip of two kids playing with toys, they're aged 5 or thereabouts. One asks the other:
Yep. I accepted the terms. Peace out, brainwashed family.
Hope they have Jesus in their heart. The only thing you can do is pray for them and pray that your enemies turn to the lord.
Using your words will not work now they are too far gone.
So they sacrifice family for the risk of less than a percent of death??
Sounds like someone who would report you to the Stasi, nicht Wahr?
Exactly. My entire family is liberal, and won't listen no matter how much evidence I present. My own mother mentioned that she would take my kid to get vaccinated if I leave them with her.
Needless to say, we haven't gone to see her in the better part of a year.
Anyone in my family tried that shit they would never see my children for as long as I breathe!
Same. That’s completely out of line.
My brother and sister took the jab and convinced my 91 year old mother to take it too. I'm not on speaking terms with my sister. My brother is mute.
I agree. That was a horrible thing for a grandmother to say or do.
My rule with those types of family members... I can't live with them, I can't kill them... so I ignore them. With family like them, who needs haters?
Du hast rechts, mein Freund. The Explanation is Mass Psychosis:
https://conservativeplaylist.com/2021/08/19/mass-psychosis-is-the-most-viable-explanation-for-what-were-seeing-in-america-today/
With thanks to the anon who posted this link, earlier.
Very interesting… very interesting.
I'm really beginning to hate stupid people.
NPCs gonna NPC.
I was immediately turned down for a job I interviewed for yesterday bc I answered honestly that I'm not and wouldn't be. Blatant medical discrimination. Unreal
Yes, but you left the building with a clear conscience, your pride, integrity and honor still in tact. Your counterparts will never know what any of these things are unless they're being strong-armed against their will, which is possible.
Sure but if you're maimed for life, work will cease to be a priority or even a capability soon enough.
Howdja get maimed for life
Mostly weakened immune systems, spike proteins dispersed in major organs and micro clotting, but there are others…
Ummmm… I thought the whole point of your post was that you refuse to get the jab. Now you are telling us that you got maimed by the jab. I’m confused.
I believe that what Murphy71 is implying is that those who get the jab will sooner or later be maimed for life, not that he is.
When people start dying from the vaccines in massive numbers, they aren't going to be able to be so picky. Of course they will just open the fucking borders, sooner or later.
Curious....what state do you believe the border to be in at present?
who knows for sure. I'm from Idaho. Depends on who you think is really in charge. I know this David Straight has said that on 25 miles of each side of the border is now United Nations property.
Source please.
aw look up David Straight on youtube. I don't care if you believe me but it is there if you care to look. Im not your secretary.
Blah, blah, blah. I don’t care enough to sit through his bullshit. The UN says many things and they too are bullshit. UN forces are too busy trafficking and raping children to attempt to enforce any of this crap. The blue berets and white vehicles are too good as aim points.
sloth I put the time right there dipshit. 20 seconds is all it would take so if you don't have that kind of time then please GO FUCK YOURSELF. I spent more time looking it up.
I was reluctant because I have watched over 5 hours of his videos and didn't write down which one I heard it on. I took a stab that it was the last one I watched and was right.
Fuck it, here ya go. 1:55 3 seconds listen up as he says the first part softly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7am3RlqgdxM&t=1343s
So, ignoring your attempt to be as big an asshole as possible, what is the actual effect of this supposed takeover of border-adjacent territory? As I noted earlier, the UN talks a lot but their actual effect has been historically nil. Will the blue berets invade the territory to force open borders? Will they create parks with playgrounds for their trafficked children?
Your source reminds me a lot of crazed preachers who claim to be able to interpret God’s will and they even have hand-drawn, multi-colored charts to prove their points.
Blah, blah, blah
Chinese army willing to fill slots.
It's ok. I'm self employed. I just thought I'd interview for the hell of it BC he was offering a "shareholder/ partner" type position. Sour grapes? But I don't want to own a piece of his cucked ass company anyway. Dueces
Did you ask them if they were going to require everyone they currently hire to get "vaccines" for Chicken Pox, Hep C, Annual Flu, etc?
If they don't, sounds like it could be a good lawsuit since the current shots (NOT vaccines) are NOT approved for use in humans by the FDA. You would be a lab rat.
When their employees start dying off... they'll be scrambling thru the HR files trying to find unvaxxed "rejects". Expect calls from all the companies that reject you now.
They honestly can’t use critical thinking. I’d challenge my husbands Grama to political debate (after SHE starts it) and once I have her “cornered” with her own words she ALWAYS says “I don’t want to have a fight about this!” Who said we’re fighting? YOU brought up the debate points, tired of always losing? Lol
It’s like they’re trained to think they’ve won once they start losing cause they “shut it down”. We will see who really wins this information war.
Well, one type of "fight or flight reaction" is the freeze response. The person shuts down and cannot fight. This is what you are seeing. Deep down, they probably know you are right, but they have no ammunition to fight, so they freeze and shut down. Feel sorry for them.
It's this and it's ego. Some folks just can not handle that they may have been lied to. Everything thinks they're smart enough to not get conned or taken advantage of.
Everyone believes what they believe is true and just. Finding out your entire belief system and WAY you are may be based on a lie is so much of an ego blow to people they can't handle it. They're very easy to find.
I don't "tell" anything when I attempt a red pill, I ask questions. I ask primer questions to confirm they agree on 'basics' or 'known facts'. I then ask questions that basically forces them to contradict the primer with their answers. Works every time.
They start getting mad / upset = you've hit the ego.
"Why are you getting mad? I"m just asking questions, you already know the answer to. If YOU get mad because I ask you questions, maybe the problem isn't with the one asking the question"
Reminds me of supervisors at work. When they accuse you of something, and you explain all the details of what and why you did it, they never say: "Yes, you are right. I'm sorry for accusing you".
MOST COMMON RESPONSE: SILENCE.
The ability to admit one is wrong is apparently a fucking superpower on the level of common sense...
Correct. I've even seen it referred to as the fight, flight, or freeze response.
Repeating what they are told is what they think is thinking, but it is not, it is programming.
Someone starts spouting shit at me, i whip out a pencil and paper, and start taking notes. Freaks them right tf out. I let them talk until exhaustion, and then i point to my notes and proceed to make my points.
Typical woman ...
j/k !!!
;-)
I also have lost family. Two dead likely from the jab, others because I won't get the jab. I am about to lose my job because I won't take the jab. This movie sucks, and no ending will make it better. there is no picking up the pieces for me at my age. I know I am not the only one who feels this way. God is the only way now. Pray. I really believe that the antichrist will be here soon.
There are going to be millions of job opening in the pretty near future, if you get my drift. Just survive right now. Do what you have to do. Don't get the jab.
I do get your drift, and I think it's really the only way. There is no making peace with the other side. I have struggled with how I could ever forgive the other side after this shit show is over. After all of the shit that they have put us through in the name of waking up. I really believe that the only way anyone else wakes up at this point is watching millions die off because of the jab. Only then will the survivors open their eyes. So sad. God bless you for your kind words.
i understand that as believer in God i need to forgive but this is not going to be easy. i dont see a way now but time will tell. either way life will never be the same.
There is a difference in forgiving someone, and forgiving going back to before the rift. Just because you forgive someone, doesn't mean you will put up with the stuff that caused the rift. You can love someone, but dislike with a passion some of their actions.
Hang in there. I pray we are shielded with God's armor to not only survive, but thrive through all of this and to be a shining example of dignity and grace for others who are asleep at the moment.
"I really believe that the only way anyone else wakes up at this point is watching millions die off because of the jab."
What about.
Aghhmm.... CDC here, you all took poison and will be dead within 5 years, sorry, our bad. Please line up in an orderly manner to be dispensed Trump's cure of Hydox and Inver, Zinc and D.
..as a hypothetical example.
Use your imagination....there are plenty of ways to wake these poxy sleepers up. What about an incoming missile alert, they might take stock whilst running around pulling their hair and freaking out. It might at least make porn hub run faster for a while!
You are right, however, that it will take something to personally effect their insular little lives and pull their heads out of their asses, ShitPhones, and watching "reality" TV. What a dull lot.
When people die from the jab, they will blame it on the unvaccinated.
Yep, and it will ultimately fail dismally.
I think even when massive amounts of vaxxed people drop dead they will STILL cling to the narrative that it's our fault. Despite that we are healthy and well.
They will blame on a variant.
Honestly, if you want to keep your job for whatever reason, I think it’s fully justified at this point to lie your ass off,tell the boss you’ve been jabbed, show a phony vax card, and continue with your job. Screw them if they want to believe the media’s lies, there is no reason to lose a good job over this.
But, if you chose to make a sacrifice in war, you sacrifice yourself, not others who have no idea that there's even a war.
Some bad choices have been made. Very bad.
Interesting, I always thought the ac would be young, like 33 because that is where Jesus left at.
Trump does fit the role to an extent especially with the peace talks he was working on in the Middle East.
However saying he isn't as close to fame as Jesus and speaking at the March for Life rally tells me otherwise... I mean if the Anti Christ is allowed to be THAT convincing it's pretty bullshit, if you ask me.
I think Kushner is more likely, but at this point, I don't know and we won't know until they stand on the Temple Mount after it's rebuilt.
Show her what's happening in Australia, might change her tune.
Probably not. Cognitive dissonance is a powerful social force that is in play right now.
Really makes you wonder how many people actually "live" versus those who just mindlessly exist...
20/80. It's an almost universal law.
Why is this person able to regulate your access to your parents?
Cognitive Dissonance is a real thing. She is fully brainwashed, does not derive her beliefs from information and logic, she derives them from the media and the state.
I am sorry you are going through this, I have not to this point had this happen. Keep in mind this family member is truly in a state of psychosis. There is nothing you can do except wait and pray.
If all goes according to plan she will be awakened, then it will be time for you to forgive her.
lib here, from the other side of the conflict.
I don't think it's that common sense has been abandoned, it's that both sides -- lib and based -- are rewriting their common sense in response to the evidence they see, which is rarely a complete picture of a big complicated mess. All the common sense in the world won't help you if you assembled your way of thinking from bad evidence: the foundation is poisoned.
Make them a deal: come into the debate willing to admit you're wrong, as long as they're willing to admit the same. If you both come in willing to accept the possibility of being wrong, maybe there's a way to crack a hole in that brick wall between yourself and family.
But if you both plant your feet down, you clash and end up in a stalemate, and the wall -- so to speak -- gets another ten feet higher.
EDIT: Just a curious outsider here, trying to understand more about Q/anons straight from the source.
Good for you for being open minded enough to have questions, and search out and find this site.
That's how we got here, liberal shit is always fucked up. wrong is wrong period and can't be negotiated with. not everyone will like how it ends.
You're wrong, actually. How we got here is more complex, but debates are NOT conducted as nomadic indicates and that's the problem. Faggots like Shapiro contributed to the downfall of discourse. It's not about what IS right it's about BEING RIGHT. People are more interested in BEING right than seeking what IS right and they would rather inflate their egos by making someone looks stupid rather than actually articulate their stance.
Liberal shit isn't always fucked up and if you really believe the right is somehow infallible, you're a bigger fool than OP's family member.
When they changed homosexuality from a mental disorder to a sexual preference many years ago, some of us warned what would happen. what compromise do you want to make? what debate is there? time to put the genie back into the bottle.
That’s why I’m always open for discussion vs a debate. If I’m wrong about something I want y to I know.
Rejection of the clotshot can be the only choice if anyone else in your family has taken it. Its not an easy conversation, but you need to be the steely-willed one who is unmoved by and unflinching in the face of the most seductive, demanding or threatening of the drug-pushers who we know want to kill people. And you must keep this resolve intact and the rage burning while your own loved ones begin dying in their ignorance having brushed aside your warnings, because someone has to be strong. Someone has to be the adult. Someone has to be sane in a world that has gone mad.
And so survivors guilt needs to be crushed mercilessly and discarded, and you need to be the life-boat captain for the survivors, for children that will be parent-less, for the people who will need to rebuild the shattered society that follows. And to bring down divine retribution and wrath upon all those who have done this.
The 4-6% . Sorry, a lot of us have family members belonging to that sad category.
More than likely it is going to be FAR more than 4-6%. My guess is almost 25%, judging by how many people have gotten jabbed.
They'll be the ones with the medical issues and high chance of death. It's sad, but stay strong. We're the ones trying to save humanity.
I would just call your parents and tell them you love them but ______ wont let me come to visit you. I cant take the chance of hurting my family over an experiment. I hope you understand.
No point in arguing it will make things worse for everyone. Call your parents occasionally but sever ties with the others. Time will tell all.
Debunked: verb, past participle
Luke 12:51-53
Do you think that I have come to give peace on earth? No, I tell you, but rather division. For from now on in one house there will be five divided, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”
My family sacrificed me 20 years ago on behalf of one of my sisters. I completely disengaged, moved on and moved away, and I'm now only in contact with the one sister who accepts and understands why I did what I did. The last 20 years have been my happiest ever because they aren't fraught with the unnecessary drama and conflict of my family's dysfunction. I empathize that what you're experiencing hurts your heart, but you continue to have a very important part of your family and that can be your saving grace. Enjoy what you have and let the rest of them go.
This is the worst part of this for me during this Covid time. Family. It sucks when you have Liberal family members. You can't talk to them.
You are dealing with mass hysteria. They have been terrified by media and are acting out in fear.
They are scared of you because the tv told them to be scared of you.
Good luck hopefully this understanding will help you find a way to deal with this terrible situation.
This situation has revealed that most humans are ruled by fear and easily manipulated, lack critical thinking and are just not very bright. I've concluded that I have grossly overestimated the intelligence of the average person.
Sorry that happened to you. Stay strong. Perhaps time will help her open her mind.
While I believe it's true the media is the enemy of the people, the people themselves bear at least some responsibility. If you don't want to know the truth, if you refuse to hear the truth, if you refuse to listen to anybody else's (including scientists and doctors in this case) view of things, than that is your fault and your responsibility. Honestly, it puts me in mind of what some might say when they face God one day ... 'but - but - but - I didn't know. Nobody told me.'
My son's half-sister did this to him. Made him get a flu shot in order to visit his dying father, and made him get the Covid shots in order to meet his new baby niece. He caved, and I'm heartbroken.
Mass psychosis has overcome many of our friends and family.
The best thing we can do to help them is continue to insist on the truth.
I had a similar experience with a vax-Karen. Wouldn't shut up when I spoke, would always interrupt, didn't believe a single word I said even though I told her to "fact check" everything I said, which she started to do on her phone then eventually gave up because she realized I was right but didn't want to admit it.
These people are beyond help. They've gotten their jabs and now their booster shots are coming up. And from what I've heard those boosters are going to be the ones to really start killing people. So be patient. Once these people's "fully vaccinated" families start dropping like flies around them they might, MIGHT, have a spark of clarity, or they'll dig themselves deeper into their graves (figuratively and literally) and we won't have to worry about them anymore. If they want to die, that's on them.
It’s the fear that’s making her act that way. Pray for her.
They are fully demoralized. No matter how much evidence you put in front of them, they will never change their mind. When you and your family are still alive 20 years from now, they will still be angry you didn't take the vax. Nothing will change them.
Stay strong the storm will blow over soon.
I imagine it would be tough to hear and accept that you've been lied to. When you add in the dangers of the vaccine to someone who has already been jabbed, that can be a very scary truth to accept. It makes sense a person would vehemently deny that truth out of fear.
If you wanna go see your family, go see your family.
That really sucks. Pretty much all of my extended family have taken the shot. I gave up trying to convince them not to do it. We all just agree not to discuss politics or anything controversial anymore and pretend everything is hunky-dory.
If/when shit goes south for all those who got the Graphene Oxide + mRNA shot, it's going to be some sad challenging times, but the rest of us that are left will have a bond of knowing that we were all red-pilled and awake to the same shit.
There will be hell to pay for the perpetrators.
It is their religion: Fauci is their priest they worship with masks on at the altar of the 5 Covid 💉
Uhhhmmm I think your parents get to decide who they see, not your other "close" family member.
So, carry on, if you can, with one less psychopath in your company.