I would like to add here once again, for the statistically illiterate;
the unvaxxed are vastly oversampled in positive testing by simple virtue of there being minimal cause for a vaxxed person to get a test, and by the fact that asymptomatic cases are far, far more common with vaxxed individuals.
Please, lads, get that 8 hour course in statistics. It genuinely is a fucking necessity for "doing the research"
It is linked to a www.lifesitenews.com video which I think is one of the best red-pills there is for normies. It takes a few seconds to load the site and you have to scroll down a bit to get to the video (the video takes a few seconds to load). The video is over an hour long, but is clearly divided into topic sections. The PCR Test section starts at the 7:30 mark and I think it will clearly answer your question. I recommend watching the whole video though after checking out the PCR Test section. WWG1WGA.
I'm going to say this as emphatically as possible, THESE CRIMINALS MUST BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE
Fauci knew damn well what he was doing was criminal. Doctors that are going along with the criminal acts, know what they are doing is wrong. Pfizer executives should be beheaded, at the minimum.
And I'm going to say this too. Trump is guilty either by commission or omission (incompetence) in letting the criminals push this fake pandemic narrative and get away with it. He did not have to listen to doctors and scientist who among the whole lot, had never treated one single Covid patient.
You go to a bookshelf in a strangers home and you want to test them for communism. You rip the spine off every book, and throw all the pages in a random pile on the floor.
You have a team of workers who each pick up a page at random, and put it through a photocopier a certain number of times, then throw all the paper back into the pile at random.
Then, the workers go through the entire stack and count the occurrences of each unique sentence. This results in a list of every unique sentence in every book on the shelf occurring however many times each page got photocopied.
At the end of the day, they total up the number of times any of the following words occur: "people's", "comrade", or "bourgeois".
If this total exceeds a threshold, then the person has tested positive for communism and should be pushed out of a helicopter.
The amplification factor (or cycle threshold) is the number of photocopies the workers will make.
The more photocopies, the more sensitive the result.
If the word "people's" appears once in one book but a million photocopies are made, it would have the same result as if the entire bookshelf was full of communist propaganda and a thousand photocopies were made. That's how the false positives happen.
Or it could be compared to securely deleting data on a hard drive (in this example using ccleaner), or scanning for deleting files (with Recuva).
If you want to simple delete data from a drive, the head makes one pass over the data, and writes over top it if. If you do a very secure delete, it makes 35 passes over the data and writes X's over it 35 times. One time, and 35 times are not equal due to the amount of inexactness in the head positioning on the disk, sort of like in the old days with tape tracking.
When you run scan of a disk using Deep Scan method, all it's doing is making more passes over the same Volumn-Cylinder-Head-Sector address to see if it can pick up data using multiple passes, where as it would not using one pass.
And they don’t count any symptoms of vaccinated as vaccinated until “fully vaccinated” 14 days after the last dose they said was last dose. Which one are we on now... 8?
I believe this is only true for what data is collected by the CDC on breakthrough cases. When I have had to get tested they never ask whether I am vaccinated, how would they know to change the threshold?
Seems to me you need to get a course on common sense
there being minimal cause for a vaxxed person to get a test
Yet they are getting tested anyway, because the narrative is they can still get sick from it even after the 2 doses
I find it humorous you think these people act with any basis in logic, have you been watching?
Now think about this for a second, if someone is refusing the vaccine, it most likely means they are not deathly afraid of the kung flu as the sheep are, hence they would hardly even look to get tested in the first place
While the sheep are still running to get tested because of a little sniffle, even after being "fully immunized"
Also by "asymptomatic" you of course mean "false positive on a perfectly heathy individual because of BS tests"
The conclusion is questionable because you cannot depend on the 'number of cases' as a meaningful number. The people that get tested is not a random sample of the population. You cannot depend on this number because you don't know who is getting tested and the circumstances.
Instead, we need to compare the number of deaths to the number of vaccinated people vs. the number of unvaccinated.
England
70.9% of population fully or partially vaccinated
39,709,325
If 39,709,325 represents 70.9% of the population, then let's calculate the total population as considered in this statistic.
That means 39,709,325 / 0.709 = 56,007,510 people in England
So if 39,705,325 people are partially or fully vaccinated, how many people are unvaccinated?
Population - #fullOrPartiallyVaxxed = 56,007,510 - 39,709,325 = 16,298,185 unvaccinated
Percentage dead from Covid - 19 of the England's vaccinated people?
(90 + 679)/39,709,325 = 0.00001936572 = 0.0019% or 1 in 51,637 odds
Percentage dead from Covid-19 of England's unvaccinated people?
390 / 16,293,185 = 0.00002393638 = 0.0024% or 1 in 41,777 odds
So the vaccinated are only slightly better off, based on number of deaths only.
Kids have a 1/2,500,000 chance of dying if they catch covid-19
From the table below, a 15 year old male in a High Income Country (HIC) without co-morbitities has a 0.00004% chance of dying if they catch the Wuhan virus.
0.00004% means a 1 in 2,500,000 chance.
The values in the table are in percent, as evidenced by the fact that if you are 80+ years and old and unhealthy, the number is 20.08
Thanks for the calculations. The question I have is -- How many more are there not being reported? This is the UK and historically their government agencies 'LIE a lot' and consistently 'LIE a lot'. If these UK 'reported' numbers are anything like the CDC's VAER reporting system, in normal times there is estimated a 1 to 10 percent reporting of all the adverse effects. However, we are not living in normal times, so we can deduce the 1 to 10 percent reporting is far worse than this.
If we assume the UK reporting numbers are similar to VAERS, and this is the best we have for correcting the record, what does it do to your numbers then? Mind you, we can also assume the UK is not living in normal times either. It may be far worse than here in the United States.
Is your percentage dead of vaccinated not the 90 +679, but rather (9000 + 67900)/39,709,325 = 0.001936572 = 0.19% or 1 in 516.37 odds?
"So the vaccinated are only slightly better off, based on number of deaths only."
Is your Percentage dead from Covid-19 of England's unvaccinated a bloated number mired with massive false reporting? Is this 390 number really a hundred times smaller due to cases of pneumonia and influenza along with other health conditions and comorbidities being counted as COVID-19 thus conflating the COVID death numbers? What happened to all the influenza deaths in 2020? They disappeared! First time this ever happened? Now the WHO and CDC admit their COVID testing cannot distinguish between COVID and influenza. The fraud is far worse than this too.
Is your Risk of a bad reaction from the vaccine, not 0.2%, but rather 20% and not 1 in 500, but instead 1 in 5? Is the Risk of death from the vaccine 2.64% of the bad reactions or 1 in 19,000 or is it far worse?
I believe the 100X number is more realistic. My wife had 2 friends die as a result. There seems to be far more people dying than is reported. Is anyone watching the obituaries?
This is a great point. I too believe that deaths and bad reactions are vastly under-reported.
But that speculation doesn't help us in this information war against the criminally corrupt media and the deep state. Our best shot at convincing people is to use the official data, and even that data shows that the vaccine is a bad deal and does a hell of a lot more harm than good.
"Our best shot at convincing people is to use the official data, ....."
I agree with what you are saying, but these are cunning snakes and even with this we are being steered in a different direction. I don't have a solution to it other than hoping for whistle-blowers providing truer numbers and data. That idea is in the 'wishful thing' column however. My wife mentioned one of her friends was looking at the newspaper's obituaries and seeing higher numbers of young people dying. I wonder if a collective of funeral homes could be a good source.
As I said, I understand the dilemma for the lack of 'good' information and data. Accordingly, since there is a lack of 'good' information, maybe "we are the news" in this regard by pulling information from funeral homes and other places and so forth.
I wish we could get at some data on up-to-date numbers for deaths due to blood clots, heart damage, nerve damage in the young. Because I think it is skyrocketing.
There is so much fuckery done with the data that its pretty much impossible to draw any conclusions from them. Different PCR ct counts for unvaxed and vaxed, different criteria for registration of a case as covid or not based on vax status. Are they as "liberal" with marking a dead vaxed person as dead from covid as an unvaxxed person? These people have done nothing but lie and spread fear about this madness for 1.5 years, i have no reason to believe any of the numbers they spew out. The fact that even the numbers they DO publish look bad for the vaxed crowd says more than a thousand military ballots all voting 100% for Biden
It's one big circle jerk. PCR tests are now admitted by both the WHO and CDC as not being able to distinguish between COVID-19 and the Flu. This is why flu deaths went to zero in 2020. But, even the CDC and WHO's statement is expectantly not even close to the entire truth, because the PCR Test cannot diagnose any infection, period. This is the inventor's statement, Kary Mullis, not mine.
The deceit and fraud is even worse if you can recognize we are playing 'whac-a-mole' in their Germ Theory matrix. Most all allopathic medicine is fraud. No cures are allowed, but treating the symptoms is where the money is at. If one knew that it was William Rockefeller, the father of JD Rockefeller, made a living in defrauding cancer victims with snake-oil. That's right, he was a snake-oil salesman, who used the fake name of Dr. "Bill" Livingston.
Imagine a heartless huckster preying upon the trust of the general public to swindle them out of their hard-earned savings. With a bottle of useless tonic and the help of a planted actor in the audience, the snake oil salesman made a living out of lies and deceit. He used a made-up title, billing himself as-- “Dr. Bill Levingston, Celebrated Cancer Specialist” despite being neither a doctor nor celebrated nor a cancer specialist.
He was an inveterate cheat and liar, having abandoned his first wife and their six children to start a bigamous marriage in Canada at the same time as he fathered two more children by a third woman.
And like every snake oil salesman, he had a cure-all tonic to hock. He called it "Rock Oil" and charged $25 a bottle for it, equivalent at the time to two months’ salary for the average American worker. Claiming it could cure all but the most terminal cancers, there were always desperate souls in every town who could be duped into buying a bottle.
As near as anyone can tell, “Rock Oil” was in fact just a mixture of laxative and petroleum and had no effect whatsoever on the cancer of the poor townsfolk he conned into buying it.
Tell me how it is any different today? The snake-oil salesman has moved on to being bigger and more powerful than ever before. Instead of the snake-oil sales man being charged, convicted, and hanged, we have given him 'immunity' from harming all that have been swindled of life and limb.
I see all these statistics and the discussions on this board about how bad the vaccines are plus my own common sense of “government pushing this, something’s definitely up” and I’d just been told by my brother yesterday that if he and his wife have kids they will not allow unvaccinated people near them. 🙄
I wish them luck affording that lol. And yeah you nailed it: they don’t have kids yet but wanted to make a point to us that we aren’t welcome around them when they have some (or if, in my opinion) because we’re somehow killing people despite never being ill.
Good analysis, but there are other factors being overlooked.
Of course. And the bad reactions are no doubt under-reported. Deaths don't make it in because the doctor isn't convinced it is related etc.
The more you delve into the details the less likely you will be able to convince any normies.
But even using the numbers we can point to from the enemy's mouth, the vaccine is a bad deal. It is most likely a worse deal, but we don't need to complicate the conclusion with speculation.
Genetically sequencing virus fragments is simple with modern equipment. It is not quite so simple to find a complete viral dna sequence to sample. I think this is part of the confusion. In virology, there is quite a bit of extrapolation involved in dna sequencing.
Coronaviruses exist. What they call "Covid" is just a respiratory infection supposedly caused by one of the coronaviruses.
So they've just renamed respiratory infection or pneumonia or wicked cold to "Covid".
It's like calling a bad cold you get from a specific rhinovirus "captain tripps".
We've always been told that doctors can't do much for viruses. Rest, treat symptoms, etc. Sure, some have vaccines like smallpox.
But these aren't vaccines. They're lipid delivery systems for mRNA. Calling it a vaccine is stupid.
At best, I don't think it does much of anything. At worst, it has nasty side effects including possible death.
I'll let my cells fight the coronaviruses (all of them) the old fashion way. Let my immune system do the work. From what I've read, You'd think the jab would be GREAT for those with a weak immune system... But supposedly it doesn't work as well in that case.
I dunno, I don't think people are trying to exterminate humanity with a so - called vaccine. I just think we don't know wtf we're doing and just grasping at straws. "here, let's try this, it should work!". People thought radium water was good too.
That, and I think the world overreacted. Which played into the hands of the dastardly.
Are they able to isolate it without having to use overlapping PCR products, and then using a computer to further generate data with just more parameters? I don’t see any live samples here that were sufficient enough to produce the required data to analyze it without having to first amplify the initial results from the collected specimen.
How about we first look at some traditional methods of actual legwork instead of just using “Modern” methods that rely on copy and past digital enhancement. Yeah, the PCRs are faster but traditional ways actually grow and culture to something that doesn’t require a simulation of data.
Plus you know, the over cycling issue those tests have..
An example of a long boring way of a different virus
But remember, CDC even said that they had no quantified virus isolates of the virus available. And that was in July of 2020, after the link you provided was posted.
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Seems the new Fascistbook fuckery is when you try to share these tweets no preview is loaded so that lazier people will just scroll by, have to now post a screenshot and the link instead.
InB4 "why are you still on..." well how the fuck else do you expect it to get in front of normies?
I share stuff daily to fascist book. my liberal friends read some of it but do not reply. Hope I am getting a few turned around. I know for a fact some of my quiet conservative friends have begun posting more and more against the poke, against Biden, against loss of rights, etc.
It is working but too slowly.
I posted earlier today about a perceived need to kick something off
This is what I’d expect given that already healthy individuals are saying NO to the experimental shot, even if it was just a saline shot you’d expect data like this to emerge as healthy people don’t get it and unhealthy people do get it
In this US, that is true. Since the "vaccination" doesn't "take" for 14 days, you're considered unvaccinated if you are injured or die within that period.
So, I'm not exactly enthusiastic about this vaccine, but we might also want to factor in the fact that they're intentionally underreporting 'non-severe' breakthrough cases. At least in the US they're doing that.
Thanks! Screen grabbed, cropped, and posted to FB. Unfortunately, the people who need to see stuff like this have generally blocked all my posts, but maybe there are one or two who will see it, and start to go hmmmmm.
Do the numbers compare number vaccinated vs unvaccinated. I probably don't need to point out that if there are 434% more people vaccinated vs unvaccinated, the the number would be equal.
Do you think this is the case in the US? I live in Palm Beach County where doctors gave a press conference b/c the beds (and especially the ICUs) have staff overwhelmed and exhausted. Do you feel like they're lying? Misinformed and not educating themselves? I'm in a very conservative area. PLEASE do not attack me for asking a question, I've been lurking here and reading but have been afraid to comment or question anything after seeing people called shills and people calling for them to be banned.
When they report that the hospitals are at capacity, what they fail to report is that capacity is relative to staffing. If they have 20 covid ICU beds, it doesn’t mean 20 beds are filled. If they only have staffing for five beds, they are at capacity of five are filled. There has been a nursing shortage for years. Now, many hospitals are mandating the vax and staff are leaving or being fired. Hospitals are now severely understaffed, especially in places like FL and TX
Edit: no one will ever attack you for asking questions. The attacks usually happen when someone is attempting to aggressively make a point that the board has already discussed in length.
Of course! Most people on the board have no problem answering questions when people are truly seeking answers or have discussions even if they don’t agree. It’s when someone comes in aggressive and takes a stance with nothing to back it up that typically creates the passion.
If you want to show sarcasm, it helps to put a star (shift 8 key) directly in front of any thing intended to be sarcastic, it will look like this in preview mode: Trust the science, they say! But they ignore the Scientific Method!
I would like to add here once again, for the statistically illiterate;
the unvaxxed are vastly oversampled in positive testing by simple virtue of there being minimal cause for a vaxxed person to get a test, and by the fact that asymptomatic cases are far, far more common with vaxxed individuals.
Please, lads, get that 8 hour course in statistics. It genuinely is a fucking necessity for "doing the research"
Don't forget that the vaccinated are tested with a cycle threshold of 28 and the unvaccinated are tested with a cycle threshold of 40.
Do you have a good reference for understanding what exactly that means? I dont fully understand the tests and finding good info Is tough
Here is a good one IMO. Go this this GAW post:
https://greatawakening.win/p/12jJBwlnl2/masterfully-done-documentary-exp/c/
It is linked to a www.lifesitenews.com video which I think is one of the best red-pills there is for normies. It takes a few seconds to load the site and you have to scroll down a bit to get to the video (the video takes a few seconds to load). The video is over an hour long, but is clearly divided into topic sections. The PCR Test section starts at the 7:30 mark and I think it will clearly answer your question. I recommend watching the whole video though after checking out the PCR Test section. WWG1WGA.
Thank you for posting that.
You're welcome Fren.
Great video, second time watching.
I'm going to say this as emphatically as possible, THESE CRIMINALS MUST BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE
Fauci knew damn well what he was doing was criminal. Doctors that are going along with the criminal acts, know what they are doing is wrong. Pfizer executives should be beheaded, at the minimum.
And I'm going to say this too. Trump is guilty either by commission or omission (incompetence) in letting the criminals push this fake pandemic narrative and get away with it. He did not have to listen to doctors and scientist who among the whole lot, had never treated one single Covid patient.
That's a good one too! Thanks for posting.
You would that one tid bit would be enough.
Here's an analogy to explain PCR:
You go to a bookshelf in a strangers home and you want to test them for communism. You rip the spine off every book, and throw all the pages in a random pile on the floor.
You have a team of workers who each pick up a page at random, and put it through a photocopier a certain number of times, then throw all the paper back into the pile at random.
Then, the workers go through the entire stack and count the occurrences of each unique sentence. This results in a list of every unique sentence in every book on the shelf occurring however many times each page got photocopied.
At the end of the day, they total up the number of times any of the following words occur: "people's", "comrade", or "bourgeois".
If this total exceeds a threshold, then the person has tested positive for communism and should be pushed out of a helicopter.
The amplification factor (or cycle threshold) is the number of photocopies the workers will make.
The more photocopies, the more sensitive the result.
If the word "people's" appears once in one book but a million photocopies are made, it would have the same result as if the entire bookshelf was full of communist propaganda and a thousand photocopies were made. That's how the false positives happen.
ThT is a very sensible analogy.
Or it could be compared to securely deleting data on a hard drive (in this example using ccleaner), or scanning for deleting files (with Recuva).
If you want to simple delete data from a drive, the head makes one pass over the data, and writes over top it if. If you do a very secure delete, it makes 35 passes over the data and writes X's over it 35 times. One time, and 35 times are not equal due to the amount of inexactness in the head positioning on the disk, sort of like in the old days with tape tracking.
When you run scan of a disk using Deep Scan method, all it's doing is making more passes over the same Volumn-Cylinder-Head-Sector address to see if it can pick up data using multiple passes, where as it would not using one pass.
Disclaimer: non-technical description
With enough added cycles a pcr test can find tyrannosaurus DNA in everything
I identify as a prehistoric carnivore
Basically it means that the unvaxxed tests are set up to generate more than the ones given to the vaxxed.
Exactly.
Here's a break down of what viruses really are, along with a summary of PCR testing.
While it may be hard to come to terms with how much everyone is being misled, it's very important to understand the reality of the situation.
And they don’t count any symptoms of vaccinated as vaccinated until “fully vaccinated” 14 days after the last dose they said was last dose. Which one are we on now... 8?
Only counted as covid breakthrough 14 days after second shot or they count the side effects as unvaccinated https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7034e5-H.pdf Op: https://patriots.win/p/12jwaKGVAH/its-this-kind-of-bullshit-by-the/c/
Eu Covid pass has slot for eight boosters?! https://greatawakening.win/p/12jwMKpRKA/are-you-awake-yet--/c/
I believe this is only true for what data is collected by the CDC on breakthrough cases. When I have had to get tested they never ask whether I am vaccinated, how would they know to change the threshold?
Still bullshit but a slightly different form....
May 21 2021: “Caught Red-Handed: CDC Changes Test Thresholds To Virtually Eliminate New COVID Cases Among Vaxx'd” https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/caught-red-handed-cdc-changes-test-thresholds-virtually-eliminate-new-covid-cases-among “But NOW, and only for fully vaccinated people, the CDC will only accept samples achieved from 28 cycles or fewer. That can only be a deliberate decision in order to decrease the number of “breakthrough infections” being officially recorded.”
Seems to me you need to get a course on common sense
Yet they are getting tested anyway, because the narrative is they can still get sick from it even after the 2 doses
I find it humorous you think these people act with any basis in logic, have you been watching?
Now think about this for a second, if someone is refusing the vaccine, it most likely means they are not deathly afraid of the kung flu as the sheep are, hence they would hardly even look to get tested in the first place
While the sheep are still running to get tested because of a little sniffle, even after being "fully immunized"
Also by "asymptomatic" you of course mean "false positive on a perfectly heathy individual because of BS tests"
The real problem is health agencies aren't collecting or making available high quality data from which conclusions can be drawn.
Garbage in, garbage out. This analysis may be poor, but the data is useless shit to begin with.
Is there a specific course you are referring to?
The course I got in my bachelor (one semester, 8 classes) did the job for me. You might find a good alternative online.
The conclusion is questionable because you cannot depend on the 'number of cases' as a meaningful number. The people that get tested is not a random sample of the population. You cannot depend on this number because you don't know who is getting tested and the circumstances.
Instead, we need to compare the number of deaths to the number of vaccinated people vs. the number of unvaccinated.
England
70.9% of population fully or partially vaccinated 39,709,325
If 39,709,325 represents 70.9% of the population, then let's calculate the total population as considered in this statistic.
That means 39,709,325 / 0.709 = 56,007,510 people in England
So if 39,705,325 people are partially or fully vaccinated, how many people are unvaccinated?
Population - #fullOrPartiallyVaxxed = 56,007,510 - 39,709,325 = 16,298,185 unvaccinated
Percentage dead from Covid - 19 of the England's vaccinated people?
(90 + 679)/39,709,325 = 0.00001936572 = 0.0019% or 1 in 51,637 odds
Percentage dead from Covid-19 of England's unvaccinated people?
390 / 16,293,185 = 0.00002393638 = 0.0024% or 1 in 41,777 odds
So the vaccinated are only slightly better off, based on number of deaths only.
But what is the risk of taking the jab?
https://files.catbox.moe/52jou2.png
Risk of a bad reaction from the vaccine? 0.2% or 1 in 500 Risk of death from the vaccine? 2.64% of the bad reactions or 1 in 19,000
So the risk is much higher from the vaccine than the virus. It is not worth it.
Do not get your kids vaccinated. You are multiplying your child's risk of death by 45x to 132x depending on which data you look at.
Anyway you look at it, the vaccine is a terrible deal for your kids. Don't do it.
Sources:
Deaths from Delta Variant:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1012644/Technical_Briefing_21.pdf
Kids have a 1/2,500,000 chance of dying if they catch covid-19
From the table below, a 15 year old male in a High Income Country (HIC) without co-morbitities has a 0.00004% chance of dying if they catch the Wuhan virus.
0.00004% means a 1 in 2,500,000 chance.
The values in the table are in percent, as evidenced by the fact that if you are 80+ years and old and unhealthy, the number is 20.08
https://files.catbox.moe/o5wl1i.png
Source:
https://www.cgdev.org/sites/default/files/predicted-covid-19-fatality-rates-based-age-sex-comorbidities-and-health-system-capacity.pdf
Thanks for the calculations. The question I have is -- How many more are there not being reported? This is the UK and historically their government agencies 'LIE a lot' and consistently 'LIE a lot'. If these UK 'reported' numbers are anything like the CDC's VAER reporting system, in normal times there is estimated a 1 to 10 percent reporting of all the adverse effects. However, we are not living in normal times, so we can deduce the 1 to 10 percent reporting is far worse than this.
If we assume the UK reporting numbers are similar to VAERS, and this is the best we have for correcting the record, what does it do to your numbers then? Mind you, we can also assume the UK is not living in normal times either. It may be far worse than here in the United States.
Is your percentage dead of vaccinated not the 90 +679, but rather (9000 + 67900)/39,709,325 = 0.001936572 = 0.19% or 1 in 516.37 odds?
Is your Percentage dead from Covid-19 of England's unvaccinated a bloated number mired with massive false reporting? Is this 390 number really a hundred times smaller due to cases of pneumonia and influenza along with other health conditions and comorbidities being counted as COVID-19 thus conflating the COVID death numbers? What happened to all the influenza deaths in 2020? They disappeared! First time this ever happened? Now the WHO and CDC admit their COVID testing cannot distinguish between COVID and influenza. The fraud is far worse than this too.
Is your Risk of a bad reaction from the vaccine, not 0.2%, but rather 20% and not 1 in 500, but instead 1 in 5? Is the Risk of death from the vaccine 2.64% of the bad reactions or 1 in 19,000 or is it far worse?
I believe the 100X number is more realistic. My wife had 2 friends die as a result. There seems to be far more people dying than is reported. Is anyone watching the obituaries?
This is a great point. I too believe that deaths and bad reactions are vastly under-reported.
But that speculation doesn't help us in this information war against the criminally corrupt media and the deep state. Our best shot at convincing people is to use the official data, and even that data shows that the vaccine is a bad deal and does a hell of a lot more harm than good.
I agree with what you are saying, but these are cunning snakes and even with this we are being steered in a different direction. I don't have a solution to it other than hoping for whistle-blowers providing truer numbers and data. That idea is in the 'wishful thing' column however. My wife mentioned one of her friends was looking at the newspaper's obituaries and seeing higher numbers of young people dying. I wonder if a collective of funeral homes could be a good source.
As I said, I understand the dilemma for the lack of 'good' information and data. Accordingly, since there is a lack of 'good' information, maybe "we are the news" in this regard by pulling information from funeral homes and other places and so forth.
This is a good idea.
I wish we could get at some data on up-to-date numbers for deaths due to blood clots, heart damage, nerve damage in the young. Because I think it is skyrocketing.
There is so much fuckery done with the data that its pretty much impossible to draw any conclusions from them. Different PCR ct counts for unvaxed and vaxed, different criteria for registration of a case as covid or not based on vax status. Are they as "liberal" with marking a dead vaxed person as dead from covid as an unvaxxed person? These people have done nothing but lie and spread fear about this madness for 1.5 years, i have no reason to believe any of the numbers they spew out. The fact that even the numbers they DO publish look bad for the vaxed crowd says more than a thousand military ballots all voting 100% for Biden
It's one big circle jerk. PCR tests are now admitted by both the WHO and CDC as not being able to distinguish between COVID-19 and the Flu. This is why flu deaths went to zero in 2020. But, even the CDC and WHO's statement is expectantly not even close to the entire truth, because the PCR Test cannot diagnose any infection, period. This is the inventor's statement, Kary Mullis, not mine.
The deceit and fraud is even worse if you can recognize we are playing 'whac-a-mole' in their Germ Theory matrix. Most all allopathic medicine is fraud. No cures are allowed, but treating the symptoms is where the money is at. If one knew that it was William Rockefeller, the father of JD Rockefeller, made a living in defrauding cancer victims with snake-oil. That's right, he was a snake-oil salesman, who used the fake name of Dr. "Bill" Livingston.
Imagine a heartless huckster preying upon the trust of the general public to swindle them out of their hard-earned savings. With a bottle of useless tonic and the help of a planted actor in the audience, the snake oil salesman made a living out of lies and deceit. He used a made-up title, billing himself as-- “Dr. Bill Levingston, Celebrated Cancer Specialist” despite being neither a doctor nor celebrated nor a cancer specialist.
He was an inveterate cheat and liar, having abandoned his first wife and their six children to start a bigamous marriage in Canada at the same time as he fathered two more children by a third woman.
And like every snake oil salesman, he had a cure-all tonic to hock. He called it "Rock Oil" and charged $25 a bottle for it, equivalent at the time to two months’ salary for the average American worker. Claiming it could cure all but the most terminal cancers, there were always desperate souls in every town who could be duped into buying a bottle.
As near as anyone can tell, “Rock Oil” was in fact just a mixture of laxative and petroleum and had no effect whatsoever on the cancer of the poor townsfolk he conned into buying it.
Tell me how it is any different today? The snake-oil salesman has moved on to being bigger and more powerful than ever before. Instead of the snake-oil sales man being charged, convicted, and hanged, we have given him 'immunity' from harming all that have been swindled of life and limb.
I see all these statistics and the discussions on this board about how bad the vaccines are plus my own common sense of “government pushing this, something’s definitely up” and I’d just been told by my brother yesterday that if he and his wife have kids they will not allow unvaccinated people near them. 🙄
If they don't have them yet and are fully vaccinated, they may be spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on infertility treatments to no avail.
I wish them luck affording that lol. And yeah you nailed it: they don’t have kids yet but wanted to make a point to us that we aren’t welcome around them when they have some (or if, in my opinion) because we’re somehow killing people despite never being ill.
Do you have this data for the US??
Of course. And the bad reactions are no doubt under-reported. Deaths don't make it in because the doctor isn't convinced it is related etc.
The more you delve into the details the less likely you will be able to convince any normies.
But even using the numbers we can point to from the enemy's mouth, the vaccine is a bad deal. It is most likely a worse deal, but we don't need to complicate the conclusion with speculation.
Direct Link to Document:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1012644/Technical_Briefing_21.pdf
Also note this is not some conspiracy nut publication.
It is the enemy.
If they are sequencing the variants, that must mean that someone has actually isolated the actual original virus and sequenced it...right?
Guess the college genetics class didn’t help to much cuz no institution can or has provided this at this point in time...
I thought the very nature of a virus makes it worthless to sequence since it changes so quickly. But I’m no dnafagger.
Genetically sequencing virus fragments is simple with modern equipment. It is not quite so simple to find a complete viral dna sequence to sample. I think this is part of the confusion. In virology, there is quite a bit of extrapolation involved in dna sequencing.
Dr. McCullough stated in a recent interview that virtually all cases in North America are the Delta variant now.
It seems as though a limited number of cases are tested by genetic sequencing, and, based on those results, the rest of the cases are inferred. https://rumble.com/vl499z-dr.-peter-mccullough.html
Genomic sequencing? Provide the sauce, boy. Let's see the delta variants sequence.
Really. So they have isolated covid? They can prove it actually exists? You got sauce for that?
That's not surprising. It's a coronavirus. They exist. There's lots of em.
I was under the impression Alberta was able to get out from under covid restrictions because no one can actually provide proof covid exists.
Probably.
Coronaviruses exist. What they call "Covid" is just a respiratory infection supposedly caused by one of the coronaviruses.
So they've just renamed respiratory infection or pneumonia or wicked cold to "Covid".
It's like calling a bad cold you get from a specific rhinovirus "captain tripps".
We've always been told that doctors can't do much for viruses. Rest, treat symptoms, etc. Sure, some have vaccines like smallpox.
But these aren't vaccines. They're lipid delivery systems for mRNA. Calling it a vaccine is stupid.
At best, I don't think it does much of anything. At worst, it has nasty side effects including possible death.
I'll let my cells fight the coronaviruses (all of them) the old fashion way. Let my immune system do the work. From what I've read, You'd think the jab would be GREAT for those with a weak immune system... But supposedly it doesn't work as well in that case.
I dunno, I don't think people are trying to exterminate humanity with a so - called vaccine. I just think we don't know wtf we're doing and just grasping at straws. "here, let's try this, it should work!". People thought radium water was good too.
That, and I think the world overreacted. Which played into the hands of the dastardly.
Are they able to isolate it without having to use overlapping PCR products, and then using a computer to further generate data with just more parameters? I don’t see any live samples here that were sufficient enough to produce the required data to analyze it without having to first amplify the initial results from the collected specimen.
How about we first look at some traditional methods of actual legwork instead of just using “Modern” methods that rely on copy and past digital enhancement. Yeah, the PCRs are faster but traditional ways actually grow and culture to something that doesn’t require a simulation of data.
Plus you know, the over cycling issue those tests have..
An example of a long boring way of a different virus
http://iosrjournals.org/iosr-jpbs/papers/Vol12-issue4/Version-6/M1204067376.pdf
Here’s a few examples of methods (yes it does mention the PCR as well but we’re looking for the other methods for comparison)
https://courses.lumenlearning.com/microbiology/chapter/isolation-culture-and-identification-of-viruses/
But remember, CDC even said that they had no quantified virus isolates of the virus available. And that was in July of 2020, after the link you provided was posted. Page 40
https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download
And then we have that lady that FOIA the crap outta them for covid 19 and other viruses.
http://www.opensourcetruth.com/cdc-now-admits-no-gold-standard-for-the-isolation-for-any-virus/
Holy shit page 22 LOOK AT THOSE DEATHS UNDER 50
As if any organization supporting the UN Sustainable Development Goals isn't pro conspiracy nut batty totalitarianism?
I agree they are the enemy of mankind and God.
Seems the new Fascistbook fuckery is when you try to share these tweets no preview is loaded so that lazier people will just scroll by, have to now post a screenshot and the link instead.
InB4 "why are you still on..." well how the fuck else do you expect it to get in front of normies?
I share stuff daily to fascist book. my liberal friends read some of it but do not reply. Hope I am getting a few turned around. I know for a fact some of my quiet conservative friends have begun posting more and more against the poke, against Biden, against loss of rights, etc.
It is working but too slowly. I posted earlier today about a perceived need to kick something off
I’m seeing this on Snapchat. More and more normies screenshotting the things I post, people sending them to friends and posting to their stories.
Fascinating. Let's consider the simplest solution however. People refusing the jab care about their health and vaxxed sheep are unhealthy fatasses
Bill Gates has assured them the vax will only kill people who were going to eventually die anyhow.
Not everyone. Just the non-billionaire rabble who can't afford the android upgrade.
From a 99.8% survival rate to a 99.0% survival rate
Covid is a fucking joke
The vaccine is a joke
Politicians are a joke
The scam is on but I think people are starting to figure it out.
This is what I’d expect given that already healthy individuals are saying NO to the experimental shot, even if it was just a saline shot you’d expect data like this to emerge as healthy people don’t get it and unhealthy people do get it
Yes. Particularly the over-80 crowd.
Reading this document would imply they are dying from the jab with 14 days and not actually covid. The 21 day and over 21 day deaths are minimal.
Didn't I read somewhere that people dying within 14 days of being jabbed are considered unvaccinated?
In this US, that is true. Since the "vaccination" doesn't "take" for 14 days, you're considered unvaccinated if you are injured or die within that period.
The data's all garbage at this stage.
I recall reading that as well. And just asked the community if anyone has it bookmarked.
i think you misread
Perhaps. I wasn't an A math student lol
Begone Vaxxtards.
Wtf I love the vaccine now
Here is some additional sauce on vaxxed vs natural immunity.
https://greatawakening.win/p/12jwaMVuUb/-large-sample-study-shows-natura/
Good... thanks fren
You are very welcome.
Are double vaxxed people who have taken a booster? Because technically the two injections from Pfizer and AZ are a single vaccination.
Acktually
So, I'm not exactly enthusiastic about this vaccine, but we might also want to factor in the fact that they're intentionally underreporting 'non-severe' breakthrough cases. At least in the US they're doing that.
That just means it’s working, right?
Thanks! Screen grabbed, cropped, and posted to FB. Unfortunately, the people who need to see stuff like this have generally blocked all my posts, but maybe there are one or two who will see it, and start to go hmmmmm.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-novel-sars-cov-2-variant-variant-of-concern-20201201
They are also pooling tests so they mix tests together and all get the same result. They do this in the 'least likely to test positive', in this clown world that will be the vaxxed and they all get the same result. Allows them to test more quickly but will scew the real numbers as they are likely to come out negative due to dilution. https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/coronavirus-covid-19-and-medical-devices/pooled-sample-testing-and-screening-testing-covid-19
Do the numbers compare number vaccinated vs unvaccinated. I probably don't need to point out that if there are 434% more people vaccinated vs unvaccinated, the the number would be equal.
So does this likely mean at least some deaths caused by adverse vaccine reactions are being counted as COVID deaths ?
So if Trump is advocating vaccines and news comes out about the deaths wouldn’t it be easy for the MSM to go all “the blood is on Trump’s hands”?
Either the plan is about to culminate very soon or we’re in for some very very dark times. Just my opinion.
sent this to my old man and he said if it isn't from the cdc its not true
Do you think this is the case in the US? I live in Palm Beach County where doctors gave a press conference b/c the beds (and especially the ICUs) have staff overwhelmed and exhausted. Do you feel like they're lying? Misinformed and not educating themselves? I'm in a very conservative area. PLEASE do not attack me for asking a question, I've been lurking here and reading but have been afraid to comment or question anything after seeing people called shills and people calling for them to be banned.
When they report that the hospitals are at capacity, what they fail to report is that capacity is relative to staffing. If they have 20 covid ICU beds, it doesn’t mean 20 beds are filled. If they only have staffing for five beds, they are at capacity of five are filled. There has been a nursing shortage for years. Now, many hospitals are mandating the vax and staff are leaving or being fired. Hospitals are now severely understaffed, especially in places like FL and TX
Edit: no one will ever attack you for asking questions. The attacks usually happen when someone is attempting to aggressively make a point that the board has already discussed in length.
Thank you for calmly answering my questions! People (understandably) get very passionate here!
Of course! Most people on the board have no problem answering questions when people are truly seeking answers or have discussions even if they don’t agree. It’s when someone comes in aggressive and takes a stance with nothing to back it up that typically creates the passion.
A Carefully Crafted Covid-19 Psyop Created The Suicide Cult Of The Branch Covidian
For god's sake GET VACCINATED!
EDIT: Yo this was sarcastic... this is the shit libs say.
With the data above, please provide a rational reason why anyone would take the poke
It was a joke. this is exactly what the morons say on reddit. "my whole family died FOR GOD'S SAKE GET VACCINATED!!!"
I guess everyone's sarcasm filter is broken now...
My whole family died, thank goodness they were vaccinated or it could have been so much worse!
/S if it wasn't obvious
sorry, really, sorry. a bit touchy as of late.
The other option is suicide by cop?
Just taking a swag at the rationalization...
If you want to show sarcasm, it helps to put a star (shift 8 key) directly in front of any thing intended to be sarcastic, it will look like this in preview mode: Trust the science, they say! But they ignore the Scientific Method!