I've said this for years now. The only reason AU and EU don't go full Venezuela style authoritarian killing in the streets, secret police, the whole deal is they fear US intervention. The only reason the US is still a possible threat of intervention is because of 2A. They can't figure out how to deal with 30-50 million armed citizens without burning the whole damn world to the ground and half of them(the elites) dying in the process.
If they had full control they wouldn't need to spin narratives and spew propaganda. They lie to us because they fear us. They fear us because we are armed.
Estimates are closer to 150 million total armed citizens. Keep in mind that number is based off NICS and does not account for gun kits, family heirlooms and 3D printed/home smithed firearms.
Incorrect... I'm talking 16-35 year old military aged people ready to fight and die. That number is a lot lower than "gun owners". I'm 51 with a bad knee, high blood pressure, obese, etc etc... I wouldn't last a month in a real war. I'd barely be useful as support personnel. I'm a liability the instant my bad back goes out which wouldn't take very long.
All the best intentions in the world don't change that reality. Just because I might own a gun and I'm willing to fight doesn't mean I'm useful... other than I might have extra ammo/weapons to throw into the pool... and/or food.
With a population of 300-400 mil you aren't going to find more than 50 million people in all of North America that would be willing to fight and truly able to do it. That is still an insane number of people, and there are more than enough weapons and ammo in civilian hands to arm 50 million. Probably twice.
I don't mean to sound like an asshole, but what the fuck are we going to do? We don't know the true extent to how compromised the military is. And what will the regular people do? Rent commercial aircraft and basically organize a citizen invasion force?
I used to think the same, but I’ve had my mind changed just by simply asking questions and listening to others. There is more going on behind the scenes than we know.
What you are missing is this... here in the USA they can't use the military to fight civilians. Think about it... the guy that built your tank/truck or grew you're food... the wielder, the farmer, the factory worker... that's who you will be shooting at. So even if the military was willing to fight us its a no win situation. There will be no replacement tank/plane. When those bombs/missiles in the ammo bunker have all been dropped no one is going to drive up in a truck and deliver more. You blew up the truck driver 3 weeks ago. The factory worker the week before.
In theory casualties would be insane. A million police and military with planes and tanks etc could easily kill 2-10 million people in mere months. But when the jet fuel runs out... the bombs run out... the tanks run out of fuel and ammo, etc etc... then its 20 million guys with rifles fighting 1 million guys with rifles. And the 1 million guys just killed several million of the 20 millions friends/family in horrible ways.
Every US military commander regardless of their politics and loyalties understands this. Wars are fought not just with men and guns they are fought with logistics and supply lines. If you're shooting the guy that grows the food you are doomed to failure. And after months of abusing them when you do finally fail there will be no quarter given. You won't get to walk away. They know this. That's why they will never ever start that fight.
They need you to disarm and give up. Anything else is a suicide mission.
As far as other countries like say Australia goes... the US has a LONG history of civilians on their own dime joining wars. Lets' say AU goes full retard and then a rebellion of sorts starts up. People in the USA collect up tens of thousands of guns load them on a tramp freighter and sneak into AU. They might bring food or medical supplies as well. Worse we might have an election that even with them cheating we take 300+ seats in the house plus POTUS then we formally declare war on the AU puppet regime etc.
Its not about what actually will happen. Most of these scenarios are unlikely. Its about the fact they don't have enough control to guarantee it. If they go too far too fast without total control they might blow the whole thing.
The whole point is they want control over us. Yet the most powerful country with the most guns and the best technology is the one place they have the least control. Their control over us is VERY fragile. At any moment we could simply swat them away like the bugs they are. Their power is just an illusion. Its all based on lies and shell games. They are "in charge" mostly because their media mouthpieces SAY they are in charge.
When the guns come out they are nothing. They(their civilian support, antifa/BLM etc) are at most 2-5 million strong, poorly armed, and poorly trained. Do the math. If the military splits evenly that means roughly 1 million police and military on each side but we have 50 million highly effective civilians and they have 5 mil of meh. They don't want that fight... not until they have taken away our guns. If we are helpless and can't fight back we will give in. As long as we are armed we won't give up.
I think there is one other fact you aren't paying attention too.
25,903,000 That's the population of AU. Military is "total numbering 81,214 personnel (including 57,982 regulars and 23,232 reservists)". So when I say 200k AU citizens and 200k USA citizens together well armed with US guns would probibly kick the crap out of the AU military I'm not joking.
All of this assumes 100% of the military goes along with shooting civilians. The likely scenario is they would need to bring in foreign troops like Chinese to keep control over the population. That's how Venezuela works. There are thousands of Cuban commandos there keeping Maduro in power.
The millisecond a single Chinese soldier set foot on AU soil(especially if video gets out--- and you know it will--- of them shooting or beating civilians) tens of millions of Americans would demand we do something about it. We're back to if you can't control the USA you can't forcibly control anything in the western world. We are a wild card. And if you can't take away our guns because of 2A you will never control We The People.
See they get away with a lot of BS in other places because their media mouthpieces convince us its none of our business. We shouldn't interfere. And we like a bunch of idiots fall for that. BUT when it comes to western countries like UK or France or AU etc we wouldn't put up with their bullshit and they know it.
Why do you think they kill farmers in SA on the down low??? If the black government sent military units to wipe them out it wouldn't take 2 days and US jets would bombing them into the stone ages. But secret kill squads... what are those... never heard of such a thing... deny deny deny. They hide it because they are afraid to do it in the open. Afraid of what?
What you are missing is this... here in the USA they can't use the military to fight civilians.
You're kidding, right? Parts of the military might not, but the police are fucked. Look at the shit they continue to do here. They probably masturbate to the though of crushing skulls. Remember that woman with dementia the police treated like a piece of shit? They laughed at the replay of the body cam footage, where they dislocated her shoulder. They fucking laughed!
I firmly believe that the police are the standing army the Founders warned us about. Waco? When they massacred children without a care? Ruby Ridge, when Lon Horiuchi murdered Vicki Weaver while she was holding her child? Daniel Shaver, who was murdered like a rabid animal?
It will likely be majority police doing all the rounding up and slaughtering. They'll managed to get their hands on military-grade equipment without much hassle, why I don't know.
Feds = 120k. State and local = 800k. Let's round up to a nice even One million...
Military equipment for LEO is things like Bearcats, MRAPS, and other ground equipment. They do have helicopters and some airplanes but these aren't attack aircraft. They don't have fire control systems to fire rockets or drop bombs. At BEST air firepower would be some idiot hanging out a door with a belt fed 7.62 or using a Barret 50 cal. Not useless but far from "airpower" in military terms.
Now let's look at the other side. Civilians have those very same Barret 50 cal rifles, and while hitting a helicopter is actually pretty hard with the aid of tracer rounds its VERY possible and it don't take many hits with a round that big to make a helicopter simply fall out of the sky. Most non-military aircraft are actually very fragile.
Shantui was the largest producer of bulldozers, making over 10,000 units that year or two in five crawler-type dozers made in the world.
So 25k per year? In other words world wide there are millions of bulldozers. So many in fact in a heavily industrialized country like the USA that civilians could lose 2-3 for every Bearcat they destroyed and still have more left over. Hell there is an old Bulldozer just sitting around on my family farm collecting rust right now. I bet it wouldn't take a small team of mechanics a few days to get it running.
Civilians have more than enough guns and they have manpower, but how much man power??? Some people say 50 million. Many use hunting licenses which is like 70 million. I won't over inflate the numbers. The TRUTH is there are probibly 20 million young able bodied men that could really fight and maybe another 10 million that could easily act in support roles.
So let's just assume the police 100% support the government, the military stays 100% neutral, then the civilians and the the police fight it out.
You seriously believe 5 million+ vets with combat experience and 15 million weekend warriors plus 10 million support personnel can be defeated by 1 maybe 1.5 million government stooges? Remember civilians own or can take control of helicopters as well. They have all the same weapons. They can make armored vehicles. You have any idea what a bulldozzer would do to a bearcat??? Toss it around like its nothing. Sure the bearcat/MRAP can run away faster, but that's not how you win fights.
Let's face facts... critical mass is maybe 3 million armed civilians going full 1776. Law enforcement would be out-maned and outgunned completely. Without military assets... JDAMs dropped from jets, artillery, mortars, belt fed machine guns etc etc they wouldn't last even a few weeks.
Now we're back to if the military is willing to drop JDAMs on civilians on US soil. Not just any civilians but US citizens... the very people they took an oath to protect and defend.
You are deluding yourself if you believe the police have the power to overcome a mass uprising of armed US civilians. Hell ITS ALREADY HAPPENED. Look up the "bundy ranch standoff". Forget the spin. Forget that after the fact they tried mostly unsuccessfully to charge people with crimes. Look at the actual standoff. Look at the raw footage. FIFTY heavily armed federal agents ran away with their tails between their legs. They were going to get slaughtered and they knew it. So they ran away.
Why? Because hundreds of people showed up armed to the teeth and if one shot had been fired it wouldn't have been an hour and twice as many as they could see would have shown up to help. But those feds had zero backup. They were fucking toast on a stick and they knew it. But law enforcement is more powerful than We The People. Get a grip.
The ONLY issue is are enough people angry enough to pick up a weapon. Look around you. All I see is anger everywhere. When shit kicks off half those LEO will drop their weapons and bail. Just look at what happened in Hurricane Katrina. When the shit hit the fan all the LEOs bailed. Trust me... when they start hearing reports on a radio of 20 dead officers, 30 wounded, hundreds of shooters... full on revolt... They took the city hall or whatever pissy little thing they were fighting over... the civilians are in control and more are on the way. Those LEOs will bail so fast it will make everyone's head spin.
Police aren't jack shit. They only win because they fight 30 vs 1. When its 50 vs 2k they will get steam rolled like the punks they really are.
The police and either the national guard or reserves went around confiscating firearms from the people after Katrina.
For the Waco siege, didn't the police/ATF/FBI "borrow" heavy arms from the national guard, including proper explosives? They burned children alive. That's who is on the other side of the line.
The american revolution was part of the enlightenment in Europe, which paved the way for the Hasburgs and other European nobles getting overthrown and countries establishing democratic governments rather than having systems of feudalism that ruled Europe for a thousand years. The second amendment can also be credited to the British for trying to confiscate all of the firearms from the colonists. No other colonial power really needed to do this because they already had the forces necessary to crush any opposition because they typically had more advanced weapons and better trained soldiers. Also, they typically treated their colonies a lot better, unlike the British who thought they had no worries subjugating their own people and going further and further with their tyranny would be tolerated just because they shared the same blood. The reality was the colonists had little ties to their homeland, and there was a difference of 3 or more generations from the original people who came from England to the colonies. We're talking from the times of Shakespeare and Issac Newton, to the times of Mozart and Napoleon. The founders immediately saw both sides of the equation with the Whisky rebellion, but still decided it was worth the risk.
Prayerfully there will not be that day when there is a green light. But if that day does come and it gets real, there are plenty that are prepped and willing to flip the switch. Right now the light is yellow. Whatever timeline you’re on, 1 or 2, you have drawn a conclusion in your own mind of what the green light is. If the SC fraud case, G. Maxwell trial, Durham, and Devolution fail, I pray God speed to you and all other Patriots. It getting real is what the DS wants, I pray it doesn’t go there. And deep down I think that also scares the hell out of the DS, even tho they think it will benefit them
Yes. There's many cards yet to play. The uberstate keeps pushing harder and harder
But all three movies are now loaded and about to start
We need to let them play.
You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children’s children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done.
I’ve hoped we will not have to actually use it to free us all here in the US to in turn free the world. But I think we will at least need to use it to forcefully remove Lamestream from their power, arrest our crap politicians, then save the world.
Instead of pushing faggotry and abortion overseas, why not push pro 2A pro individualism stuff?
Would it cost that much money to expand actual American influence that will be better received? Like family values, Christianity, hard work, personal responsibility and self defense?
Listen here you retarded limpdick motherfucker. I’m going to try to explain this so that you can understand it.
You cannot control an entire country and its people with drones, tanks, jets, battleships or any of that shit that you so stupidly believe will triumph over citizen ownership of firearms. A drone, jet, tank, battleship or whatever, cannot stand on street corners and enforce “no assembly” edicts. A drone cannot kick down your door at 3AM and search your house for contraband materials or propaganda.
None of those things can maintain the needed police state to completely subjugate and enslave the people of a nation. Drones and those other weapons are for decimating, flattening, glassing large areas, killing many people at once, and fighting other state militaries. The government does not want to kill all of its people and blow up its own infrastructure. These are the very things they need to be tyrannical assholes in the first place. If they decided to turn everything outside of Washington D.C. into glowing green glass, they would be the absolute rulers of a big, worthless, radioactive pile of shit.
Drones are useless for maintaining a police state. Police are needed to maintain a police state. Boots on the ground. No matter how many police or soldiers you have on the ground, they will always be vastly outnumbered by civilians. Which is why in a police state it is vital that your police have automatic weapons while the people have nothing but their limp dicks.
But when every random pedestrian could have a Glock jammed in their waistband and every random homeowner has an AR-15, all of that gets thrown out the fucking window because now the police and military are outnumbered and kicking down those doors becomes a lot fucking riskier, lest you catch a bullet on your way in and face the reality of bullets coming back at them.
If you want living examples of this look at every insurgency that the U.S. military has ever tried to destroy. They’re all still kicking with nothing but AK-47s, pick up trucks, and improvised explosives. Because these big scary military monsters you keep alluding to are all but fucking useless for dealing with them.
Trump made it perfectly clear that this will be done legally and peacefully. Do you still have food? DO you still have shelter? Do you still have your guns? If you answer "yes" to any of these then no, we are not "already fucked". Still a VERY long way to go to get to that point.
Who would anyone shoot at over a stolen election? Not being argumentative, I really want to know how you think we could be handling this differently from a perspective from across the globe.
Correct. The route to world domination by the Cabal, or any other relatively small group of elitists necessitates the takedown of America. They cannot take us over because of the Second. It may also be why you don't see protests on the scale that they are in Europe and Australia. Covid excuse restrictions there are pretty much national, while in the US, only a few Democrat run areas are pushing them, and when we reach our limits, it won't just be crowds holding signs. At that point, it will be recognized by enough people that the government ceased to care what the people think, and we will respond accordingly. We are not yet at that point. But we won't be losing our freedoms either.
October 13th, 2017 California removed the penalty for KNOWINGLY infecting someone with AIDS. Now, we are finding the vaxx is infecting people with acute immunodeficiency disease. AIDS. What are the odds. So many coincidences...
NYC is the only place in America that is close to the covid tyranny seen in Austria, Austrailia or other European countries and mass protests are happening there in the blueest of blue areas.
Bring that shit out to the redder areas and see what happens. Take a look at the tyrannical school boards and what is happening there.
When the Saxon began to Hate. Slow to anger but terrible in their wrath.
Yes. Unlike some on here, I'm not necessarily concerned over the apparent lack of mass protests. I'm confident we aren't going to let them take basic freedoms because even the brainwashed youth will balk when they come for whatever they find meaningful. Americans don't know how to be truly oppressed.
Since you have gone out of your way to be a faggot, you get this twice. If any response you give is shill or faggot grade, I will be joining the deport brigade.
Listen here you retarded limpdick motherfucker. I’m going to try to explain this so that you can understand it.
You cannot control an entire country and its people with drones, tanks, jets, battleships or any of that shit that you so stupidly believe will triumph over citizen ownership of firearms. A drone, jet, tank, battleship or whatever, cannot stand on street corners and enforce “no assembly” edicts. A drone cannot kick down your door at 3AM and search your house for contraband materials or propaganda.
None of those things can maintain the needed police state to completely subjugate and enslave the people of a nation. Drones and those other weapons are for decimating, flattening, glassing large areas, killing many people at once, and fighting other state militaries. The government does not want to kill all of its people and blow up its own infrastructure. These are the very things they need to be tyrannical assholes in the first place. If they decided to turn everything outside of Washington D.C. into glowing green glass, they would be the absolute rulers of a big, worthless, radioactive pile of shit.
Drones are useless for maintaining a police state. Police are needed to maintain a police state. Boots on the ground. No matter how many police or soldiers you have on the ground, they will always be vastly outnumbered by civilians. Which is why in a police state it is vital that your police have automatic weapons while the people have nothing but their limp dicks.
But when every random pedestrian could have a Glock jammed in their waistband and every random homeowner has an AR-15, all of that gets thrown out the fucking window because now the police and military are outnumbered and kicking down those doors becomes a lot fucking riskier, lest you catch a bullet on your way in and face the reality of bullets coming back at them.
If you want living examples of this look at every insurgency that the U.S. military has ever tried to destroy. They’re all still kicking with nothing but AK-47s, pick up trucks, and improvised explosives. Because these big scary military monsters you keep alluding to are all but fucking useless for dealing with them.
Can you imagine Mr.Zuby Freedoms we take for granted and enjoyed our entire life is what's keeping us from sitting in camps. Our forefathers were incredibly foresighted.
Yes... yes it is. The Great Reset cannot happen without the USA on board. The USA cannot be forced because of one reason.... the 2nd Amendment.
To all the kiwis ive seen lately bashing the US because muh jan 6... you just remember the only reason your still allowed to have an opinion on the internet while your locked in your house 23 hrs a day is because the USA has not fallen.
Unless your living situation is equivalent to playing in trash like children do in 3rd world shitholes, things are not actually bad. We are in the middle of a war movie that is about to conclude.
All you saying we should take up arms are the only problem here , that is the absolute last thing we should consider and we are a long ways from that now.
If ever.
Because we can, we will most likely never have to. But if that time ever does come you will know and it wont be coming from some idiot dooming on this site.
There is a plan and it is working, pay attention and stop playing keyboard rambo games in your mind.
You know it, so don't be stupid and get itchy trigger finger and give those bastards any reason to come on you or your weapons, they're trying to gun grab everywhere, I had my own incident with cops last week...dirty cops, they got nothing, I'm not stupid either.
I fear there never will be one, singular "green light" that will spark serious, massive action from our side.
Even with how fast our enemy is moving; I feel like all they've done is crank the heat on the pot up to boil, yet we are still just fine with cooking to death in the pot....
We don't use nukes regularly either. But it's good to have them in your pocket. Makes 'em think twice before doing bad things. And like the headline points out, our freedoms in the US appear better preserved at the present time compared to other countries.
If the gov can - and indeed has to innumerable people - violate their / our 4A rights just as if they don't even exist, AND face ZERO actual consequences for said violations, do you really have that right?
Does it really exist if it can be violated at will and the violator NEVER faces ANY consequences?
I mean, I understand your point and agree to an extent.... I'm just wondering how much good all these "rights" are doing us........
This is 100% correct.
I've said this for years now. The only reason AU and EU don't go full Venezuela style authoritarian killing in the streets, secret police, the whole deal is they fear US intervention. The only reason the US is still a possible threat of intervention is because of 2A. They can't figure out how to deal with 30-50 million armed citizens without burning the whole damn world to the ground and half of them(the elites) dying in the process.
If they had full control they wouldn't need to spin narratives and spew propaganda. They lie to us because they fear us. They fear us because we are armed.
Estimates are closer to 150 million total armed citizens. Keep in mind that number is based off NICS and does not account for gun kits, family heirlooms and 3D printed/home smithed firearms.
Darn right! We’re more armed to the teeth than ANYone realizes. I love all my armed pedes out there. Cheers!
Incorrect... I'm talking 16-35 year old military aged people ready to fight and die. That number is a lot lower than "gun owners". I'm 51 with a bad knee, high blood pressure, obese, etc etc... I wouldn't last a month in a real war. I'd barely be useful as support personnel. I'm a liability the instant my bad back goes out which wouldn't take very long.
All the best intentions in the world don't change that reality. Just because I might own a gun and I'm willing to fight doesn't mean I'm useful... other than I might have extra ammo/weapons to throw into the pool... and/or food.
With a population of 300-400 mil you aren't going to find more than 50 million people in all of North America that would be willing to fight and truly able to do it. That is still an insane number of people, and there are more than enough weapons and ammo in civilian hands to arm 50 million. Probably twice.
I totally agree with this.
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I don't mean to sound like an asshole, but what the fuck are we going to do? We don't know the true extent to how compromised the military is. And what will the regular people do? Rent commercial aircraft and basically organize a citizen invasion force?
I used to think the same, but I’ve had my mind changed just by simply asking questions and listening to others. There is more going on behind the scenes than we know.
All it would take is 150k loosely organized people to overthrow the US government.
Probably fewer if you get people that want to make everything burn.
What you are missing is this... here in the USA they can't use the military to fight civilians. Think about it... the guy that built your tank/truck or grew you're food... the wielder, the farmer, the factory worker... that's who you will be shooting at. So even if the military was willing to fight us its a no win situation. There will be no replacement tank/plane. When those bombs/missiles in the ammo bunker have all been dropped no one is going to drive up in a truck and deliver more. You blew up the truck driver 3 weeks ago. The factory worker the week before.
In theory casualties would be insane. A million police and military with planes and tanks etc could easily kill 2-10 million people in mere months. But when the jet fuel runs out... the bombs run out... the tanks run out of fuel and ammo, etc etc... then its 20 million guys with rifles fighting 1 million guys with rifles. And the 1 million guys just killed several million of the 20 millions friends/family in horrible ways.
Every US military commander regardless of their politics and loyalties understands this. Wars are fought not just with men and guns they are fought with logistics and supply lines. If you're shooting the guy that grows the food you are doomed to failure. And after months of abusing them when you do finally fail there will be no quarter given. You won't get to walk away. They know this. That's why they will never ever start that fight.
They need you to disarm and give up. Anything else is a suicide mission.
As far as other countries like say Australia goes... the US has a LONG history of civilians on their own dime joining wars. Lets' say AU goes full retard and then a rebellion of sorts starts up. People in the USA collect up tens of thousands of guns load them on a tramp freighter and sneak into AU. They might bring food or medical supplies as well. Worse we might have an election that even with them cheating we take 300+ seats in the house plus POTUS then we formally declare war on the AU puppet regime etc.
Its not about what actually will happen. Most of these scenarios are unlikely. Its about the fact they don't have enough control to guarantee it. If they go too far too fast without total control they might blow the whole thing.
The whole point is they want control over us. Yet the most powerful country with the most guns and the best technology is the one place they have the least control. Their control over us is VERY fragile. At any moment we could simply swat them away like the bugs they are. Their power is just an illusion. Its all based on lies and shell games. They are "in charge" mostly because their media mouthpieces SAY they are in charge.
When the guns come out they are nothing. They(their civilian support, antifa/BLM etc) are at most 2-5 million strong, poorly armed, and poorly trained. Do the math. If the military splits evenly that means roughly 1 million police and military on each side but we have 50 million highly effective civilians and they have 5 mil of meh. They don't want that fight... not until they have taken away our guns. If we are helpless and can't fight back we will give in. As long as we are armed we won't give up.
I think there is one other fact you aren't paying attention too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia
25,903,000 That's the population of AU. Military is "total numbering 81,214 personnel (including 57,982 regulars and 23,232 reservists)". So when I say 200k AU citizens and 200k USA citizens together well armed with US guns would probibly kick the crap out of the AU military I'm not joking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Australian_Air_Force#Current_inventory
100 combat jets isn't that impressive. It doesn't take much and you've blown shit-tons of them up on the ground. Now what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Army#Equipment
60 Main battle tanks is nothing. Literally.
All of this assumes 100% of the military goes along with shooting civilians. The likely scenario is they would need to bring in foreign troops like Chinese to keep control over the population. That's how Venezuela works. There are thousands of Cuban commandos there keeping Maduro in power.
The millisecond a single Chinese soldier set foot on AU soil(especially if video gets out--- and you know it will--- of them shooting or beating civilians) tens of millions of Americans would demand we do something about it. We're back to if you can't control the USA you can't forcibly control anything in the western world. We are a wild card. And if you can't take away our guns because of 2A you will never control We The People.
See they get away with a lot of BS in other places because their media mouthpieces convince us its none of our business. We shouldn't interfere. And we like a bunch of idiots fall for that. BUT when it comes to western countries like UK or France or AU etc we wouldn't put up with their bullshit and they know it.
Why do you think they kill farmers in SA on the down low??? If the black government sent military units to wipe them out it wouldn't take 2 days and US jets would bombing them into the stone ages. But secret kill squads... what are those... never heard of such a thing... deny deny deny. They hide it because they are afraid to do it in the open. Afraid of what?
You're kidding, right? Parts of the military might not, but the police are fucked. Look at the shit they continue to do here. They probably masturbate to the though of crushing skulls. Remember that woman with dementia the police treated like a piece of shit? They laughed at the replay of the body cam footage, where they dislocated her shoulder. They fucking laughed!
I firmly believe that the police are the standing army the Founders warned us about. Waco? When they massacred children without a care? Ruby Ridge, when Lon Horiuchi murdered Vicki Weaver while she was holding her child? Daniel Shaver, who was murdered like a rabid animal?
It will likely be majority police doing all the rounding up and slaughtering. They'll managed to get their hands on military-grade equipment without much hassle, why I don't know.
I don't think you comprehend the raw numbers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_the_United_States#Police_population
Feds = 120k. State and local = 800k. Let's round up to a nice even One million...
Military equipment for LEO is things like Bearcats, MRAPS, and other ground equipment. They do have helicopters and some airplanes but these aren't attack aircraft. They don't have fire control systems to fire rockets or drop bombs. At BEST air firepower would be some idiot hanging out a door with a belt fed 7.62 or using a Barret 50 cal. Not useless but far from "airpower" in military terms.
Now let's look at the other side. Civilians have those very same Barret 50 cal rifles, and while hitting a helicopter is actually pretty hard with the aid of tracer rounds its VERY possible and it don't take many hits with a round that big to make a helicopter simply fall out of the sky. Most non-military aircraft are actually very fragile.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulldozer#Manufacturers
So 25k per year? In other words world wide there are millions of bulldozers. So many in fact in a heavily industrialized country like the USA that civilians could lose 2-3 for every Bearcat they destroyed and still have more left over. Hell there is an old Bulldozer just sitting around on my family farm collecting rust right now. I bet it wouldn't take a small team of mechanics a few days to get it running.
Civilians have more than enough guns and they have manpower, but how much man power??? Some people say 50 million. Many use hunting licenses which is like 70 million. I won't over inflate the numbers. The TRUTH is there are probibly 20 million young able bodied men that could really fight and maybe another 10 million that could easily act in support roles.
So let's just assume the police 100% support the government, the military stays 100% neutral, then the civilians and the the police fight it out.
You seriously believe 5 million+ vets with combat experience and 15 million weekend warriors plus 10 million support personnel can be defeated by 1 maybe 1.5 million government stooges? Remember civilians own or can take control of helicopters as well. They have all the same weapons. They can make armored vehicles. You have any idea what a bulldozzer would do to a bearcat??? Toss it around like its nothing. Sure the bearcat/MRAP can run away faster, but that's not how you win fights.
Let's face facts... critical mass is maybe 3 million armed civilians going full 1776. Law enforcement would be out-maned and outgunned completely. Without military assets... JDAMs dropped from jets, artillery, mortars, belt fed machine guns etc etc they wouldn't last even a few weeks.
Now we're back to if the military is willing to drop JDAMs on civilians on US soil. Not just any civilians but US citizens... the very people they took an oath to protect and defend.
You are deluding yourself if you believe the police have the power to overcome a mass uprising of armed US civilians. Hell ITS ALREADY HAPPENED. Look up the "bundy ranch standoff". Forget the spin. Forget that after the fact they tried mostly unsuccessfully to charge people with crimes. Look at the actual standoff. Look at the raw footage. FIFTY heavily armed federal agents ran away with their tails between their legs. They were going to get slaughtered and they knew it. So they ran away.
Why? Because hundreds of people showed up armed to the teeth and if one shot had been fired it wouldn't have been an hour and twice as many as they could see would have shown up to help. But those feds had zero backup. They were fucking toast on a stick and they knew it. But law enforcement is more powerful than We The People. Get a grip.
The ONLY issue is are enough people angry enough to pick up a weapon. Look around you. All I see is anger everywhere. When shit kicks off half those LEO will drop their weapons and bail. Just look at what happened in Hurricane Katrina. When the shit hit the fan all the LEOs bailed. Trust me... when they start hearing reports on a radio of 20 dead officers, 30 wounded, hundreds of shooters... full on revolt... They took the city hall or whatever pissy little thing they were fighting over... the civilians are in control and more are on the way. Those LEOs will bail so fast it will make everyone's head spin.
Police aren't jack shit. They only win because they fight 30 vs 1. When its 50 vs 2k they will get steam rolled like the punks they really are.
Read this... its a pretty funny read TBH.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)
The police and either the national guard or reserves went around confiscating firearms from the people after Katrina.
For the Waco siege, didn't the police/ATF/FBI "borrow" heavy arms from the national guard, including proper explosives? They burned children alive. That's who is on the other side of the line.
US citizens intervention? An ocean away?
As a Texan 3000% correct with Queso on it.
As a crayon-eating ape-retard waiting on his tendies, this is 420.069% percent right.
Hahah it all makes sense.
42%
Always has been.
The american revolution was part of the enlightenment in Europe, which paved the way for the Hasburgs and other European nobles getting overthrown and countries establishing democratic governments rather than having systems of feudalism that ruled Europe for a thousand years. The second amendment can also be credited to the British for trying to confiscate all of the firearms from the colonists. No other colonial power really needed to do this because they already had the forces necessary to crush any opposition because they typically had more advanced weapons and better trained soldiers. Also, they typically treated their colonies a lot better, unlike the British who thought they had no worries subjugating their own people and going further and further with their tyranny would be tolerated just because they shared the same blood. The reality was the colonists had little ties to their homeland, and there was a difference of 3 or more generations from the original people who came from England to the colonies. We're talking from the times of Shakespeare and Issac Newton, to the times of Mozart and Napoleon. The founders immediately saw both sides of the equation with the Whisky rebellion, but still decided it was worth the risk.
y u sound mad lol
Prayerfully there will not be that day when there is a green light. But if that day does come and it gets real, there are plenty that are prepped and willing to flip the switch. Right now the light is yellow. Whatever timeline you’re on, 1 or 2, you have drawn a conclusion in your own mind of what the green light is. If the SC fraud case, G. Maxwell trial, Durham, and Devolution fail, I pray God speed to you and all other Patriots. It getting real is what the DS wants, I pray it doesn’t go there. And deep down I think that also scares the hell out of the DS, even tho they think it will benefit them
Yes. There's many cards yet to play. The uberstate keeps pushing harder and harder But all three movies are now loaded and about to start We need to let them play.
u dont sound american
Ronald Reagan
Wasn’t Reagan a deep state
Franklin coverup
I’ve hoped we will not have to actually use it to free us all here in the US to in turn free the world. But I think we will at least need to use it to forcefully remove Lamestream from their power, arrest our crap politicians, then save the world.
Once we are done here in the US I'll volunteer to go country to country to kill commies and squash tyranny.
WWG1WGA!!
Instead of pushing faggotry and abortion overseas, why not push pro 2A pro individualism stuff?
Would it cost that much money to expand actual American influence that will be better received? Like family values, Christianity, hard work, personal responsibility and self defense?
Same mate. International Commie Hunting Club.
Not so hyperbolic is it??
Thank you so much for commenting...
Listen here you retarded limpdick motherfucker. I’m going to try to explain this so that you can understand it.
You cannot control an entire country and its people with drones, tanks, jets, battleships or any of that shit that you so stupidly believe will triumph over citizen ownership of firearms. A drone, jet, tank, battleship or whatever, cannot stand on street corners and enforce “no assembly” edicts. A drone cannot kick down your door at 3AM and search your house for contraband materials or propaganda.
None of those things can maintain the needed police state to completely subjugate and enslave the people of a nation. Drones and those other weapons are for decimating, flattening, glassing large areas, killing many people at once, and fighting other state militaries. The government does not want to kill all of its people and blow up its own infrastructure. These are the very things they need to be tyrannical assholes in the first place. If they decided to turn everything outside of Washington D.C. into glowing green glass, they would be the absolute rulers of a big, worthless, radioactive pile of shit.
Drones are useless for maintaining a police state. Police are needed to maintain a police state. Boots on the ground. No matter how many police or soldiers you have on the ground, they will always be vastly outnumbered by civilians. Which is why in a police state it is vital that your police have automatic weapons while the people have nothing but their limp dicks.
But when every random pedestrian could have a Glock jammed in their waistband and every random homeowner has an AR-15, all of that gets thrown out the fucking window because now the police and military are outnumbered and kicking down those doors becomes a lot fucking riskier, lest you catch a bullet on your way in and face the reality of bullets coming back at them.
If you want living examples of this look at every insurgency that the U.S. military has ever tried to destroy. They’re all still kicking with nothing but AK-47s, pick up trucks, and improvised explosives. Because these big scary military monsters you keep alluding to are all but fucking useless for dealing with them.
Dumb. Fuck.
you're right but holy shit you just probably destroyed this guy's will to live XD
Darwin wasn't entirely wrong...
It's also hard for the police state to kill combatants that can blend in with the non combative civilians.
Not "could be," but IS the last defense against global tyrannical takeover.
Trump made it perfectly clear that this will be done legally and peacefully. Do you still have food? DO you still have shelter? Do you still have your guns? If you answer "yes" to any of these then no, we are not "already fucked". Still a VERY long way to go to get to that point.
Who would anyone shoot at over a stolen election? Not being argumentative, I really want to know how you think we could be handling this differently from a perspective from across the globe.
Do you know how bad a modern civil war/revolution in a massive first world super power like America would be?
Bioluminescent Black Person detected!!!!!
Hurry call Al Gore. He’ll help.
We gotta stop man bear pig! Al gore is super serial about it...
Why won’t anybody take me serial!?!?
Correct. The route to world domination by the Cabal, or any other relatively small group of elitists necessitates the takedown of America. They cannot take us over because of the Second. It may also be why you don't see protests on the scale that they are in Europe and Australia. Covid excuse restrictions there are pretty much national, while in the US, only a few Democrat run areas are pushing them, and when we reach our limits, it won't just be crowds holding signs. At that point, it will be recognized by enough people that the government ceased to care what the people think, and we will respond accordingly. We are not yet at that point. But we won't be losing our freedoms either.
October 13th, 2017 California removed the penalty for KNOWINGLY infecting someone with AIDS. Now, we are finding the vaxx is infecting people with acute immunodeficiency disease. AIDS. What are the odds. So many coincidences...
NYC is the only place in America that is close to the covid tyranny seen in Austria, Austrailia or other European countries and mass protests are happening there in the blueest of blue areas.
Bring that shit out to the redder areas and see what happens. Take a look at the tyrannical school boards and what is happening there.
When the Saxon began to Hate. Slow to anger but terrible in their wrath.
Yes. Unlike some on here, I'm not necessarily concerned over the apparent lack of mass protests. I'm confident we aren't going to let them take basic freedoms because even the brainwashed youth will balk when they come for whatever they find meaningful. Americans don't know how to be truly oppressed.
Not hyperbole. Well said.
Since you have gone out of your way to be a faggot, you get this twice. If any response you give is shill or faggot grade, I will be joining the deport brigade.
Listen here you retarded limpdick motherfucker. I’m going to try to explain this so that you can understand it.
You cannot control an entire country and its people with drones, tanks, jets, battleships or any of that shit that you so stupidly believe will triumph over citizen ownership of firearms. A drone, jet, tank, battleship or whatever, cannot stand on street corners and enforce “no assembly” edicts. A drone cannot kick down your door at 3AM and search your house for contraband materials or propaganda.
None of those things can maintain the needed police state to completely subjugate and enslave the people of a nation. Drones and those other weapons are for decimating, flattening, glassing large areas, killing many people at once, and fighting other state militaries. The government does not want to kill all of its people and blow up its own infrastructure. These are the very things they need to be tyrannical assholes in the first place. If they decided to turn everything outside of Washington D.C. into glowing green glass, they would be the absolute rulers of a big, worthless, radioactive pile of shit.
Drones are useless for maintaining a police state. Police are needed to maintain a police state. Boots on the ground. No matter how many police or soldiers you have on the ground, they will always be vastly outnumbered by civilians. Which is why in a police state it is vital that your police have automatic weapons while the people have nothing but their limp dicks.
But when every random pedestrian could have a Glock jammed in their waistband and every random homeowner has an AR-15, all of that gets thrown out the fucking window because now the police and military are outnumbered and kicking down those doors becomes a lot fucking riskier, lest you catch a bullet on your way in and face the reality of bullets coming back at them.
If you want living examples of this look at every insurgency that the U.S. military has ever tried to destroy. They’re all still kicking with nothing but AK-47s, pick up trucks, and improvised explosives. Because these big scary military monsters you keep alluding to are all but fucking useless for dealing with them.
Dumb. Fuck.
Even better the second time.
Kek
You have destroyed any credibility you once had. Fuck off shill.
Well, I mean, Q said exactly as much, did he not? In an earlier Q post.
Can you imagine Mr.Zuby Freedoms we take for granted and enjoyed our entire life is what's keeping us from sitting in camps. Our forefathers were incredibly foresighted.
Found the shill. And why are you spamming this thread?? Lol absolute loser
Yes... yes it is. The Great Reset cannot happen without the USA on board. The USA cannot be forced because of one reason.... the 2nd Amendment.
To all the kiwis ive seen lately bashing the US because muh jan 6... you just remember the only reason your still allowed to have an opinion on the internet while your locked in your house 23 hrs a day is because the USA has not fallen.
Wow - reading that gave me chills which I always get when I hear TRUTH! Damn let that sink in! Patriots lives matter!
Unless your living situation is equivalent to playing in trash like children do in 3rd world shitholes, things are not actually bad. We are in the middle of a war movie that is about to conclude.
So Thomas Jefferson was a good guy right?
Not as good as his ideas.
Bonus points for username!
Using a sliding scale can be a slippery slope!
Semantics, cast the first stone... there were things he did well and also stuff that, well not so much. I guess
Like all of us
Canadian living much more relaxed over the USA and the 2nd amendment.
He’s right, you know.
At what point to we 'implement' the 2nd Amendment?
Nailed it
There should be clandestine groups sent over to Australia.
People around here may know of a plan for your concerns. It may help the 10+ comment concerned.
All you saying we should take up arms are the only problem here , that is the absolute last thing we should consider and we are a long ways from that now. If ever. Because we can, we will most likely never have to. But if that time ever does come you will know and it wont be coming from some idiot dooming on this site. There is a plan and it is working, pay attention and stop playing keyboard rambo games in your mind.
No, but the cold hard steel will
You know it, so don't be stupid and get itchy trigger finger and give those bastards any reason to come on you or your weapons, they're trying to gun grab everywhere, I had my own incident with cops last week...dirty cops, they got nothing, I'm not stupid either.
It is hyperbolic because nobody seems to be USING their 2A rights, so what good is it?
Myself included......
It’s kinda like sitting in your 1/4 mile dragster and the tree is cycling. Right now we are on yellow. Green hasn’t been lit yet.
I fear there never will be one, singular "green light" that will spark serious, massive action from our side.
Even with how fast our enemy is moving; I feel like all they've done is crank the heat on the pot up to boil, yet we are still just fine with cooking to death in the pot....
Correct and id Devolution theory is accurate then we'll never see green.
Agreed! So many things cooking on the stove right now. Durham, Election Fraud SC petition tomorrow, G. Maxwell trial, Devolution.
We don't use nukes regularly either. But it's good to have them in your pocket. Makes 'em think twice before doing bad things. And like the headline points out, our freedoms in the US appear better preserved at the present time compared to other countries.
Yes cause that's what the media needs, more talking points.
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You're not using your rights against illegal search and seizure at this moment.
But that's what's keeping you and your property secure against it.
Do you think a person has to be firing rounds 24/7 to make the 2nd Amendment viable?
If the gov can - and indeed has to innumerable people - violate their / our 4A rights just as if they don't even exist, AND face ZERO actual consequences for said violations, do you really have that right?
Does it really exist if it can be violated at will and the violator NEVER faces ANY consequences?
I mean, I understand your point and agree to an extent.... I'm just wondering how much good all these "rights" are doing us........
It's a constant struggle. And criminal minds gravitate toward Government because they hold all the power.
Keep your grass cut and bushes trimmed or your lawn will be out of control very quickly. Govt is the same, and unfortunately we are lazy.
You're not using your rights against illegal search and seizure at this moment.
But that's what's keeping you and your property secure against it.
Do you think a person has to be firing rounds 24/7 to make the 2nd Amendment viable?
The light is yellow right now. Pray it doesn’t go green
When and if the green light comes, it’s not going to stop until every last freak is eliminated.