I understand your perspective on this but think about it from your sons perspective. Living in the pain you describe and being released from it. He's in a much better place than you and I and frankly, considering what is coming on the horizon, this is a mercy to you. God bless, stay strong.
And it wasn't thrown in the garbage. What better place than being in God's hands outside of this wretched society?
May your son rest in peace - and simultaneously finally be able to run,walk and play in heaven with angels like he dreamed. You will meat him some day in heaven so do not despair.
Sorry for some people here,but it seems you were mistaken with some of those filthy shills. Probably because you wrote "died because of covid" (what isn't so clear,but this later).Your son was very ill and it was unfortunately very possible to happen because of weak respiratory muscles even if it would be normal flu. Thing is as you mention - hospital protocols can be deadly. This is first thing.
Second thing is sepsis. Yes,it may be related to coronavirus,but DON't have to. Sepsis also can happen because of using respirator. It could be caused by bacteria too for example. And even if usually American hospitals do too many medical exams they might ignored it because of "covid". If that would be for example bacteria they wouldn't too admit. And if there were bacteria then remdesivir would NOT be enough. But those "medics" have "protocols" :(
But for sure they were allowed to NOT do necessary checks because of "deadly" covid and there were no autopsy of your kid so no proves...
And only thing probably you would do were reacting earlier and applying C,D,Zinc and Ivermectin on first symptoms. But I am not sure it would help or not, we cannot change things which happened.
You (and many people here) do one wrong thing: ivermectin and C and D and zinc shall be applied in first LIGHT phase of covid.
Ivermectin (and more popular in my country amantadine) are replication inhibitors, so those drugs are stopping or rather slowing rate of breeding of those virus,but NOT killing existing virus particles itself !!! Your immune system have to do the rest
Of course as all drugs ivermectin or even suplementation@ with C & D CANNOT be used continuosly for too long - it would as well damage your health if you are healthy. But if there are symptoms it shall be used immediately
@ C and D oversuplementation can lead to HYPERCALCEMIA,BEWARE !!!
Symptoms of Hypercalcaemia:
it can interfere with how your brain works, resulting in confusion, lethargy and fatigue. It can also cause depression.
it weakens your bone - bone pain and muscle weakness.
excessive thirst and frequent urination.
stomach upset, nausea, vomiting and constipation.
So remember - after Covid ends in your family you and your wife shall probably STOP or LOWER suplementation for some small period of time. Probably you got some immunity against corona if you are healthy now
Especially headache of your wife might be disquieting if she is healthy now.
Unfortunately all drugs or even vitamins and food can do some damage too...
It is INFURIATING that most of medics are so corrupted to and we have to chose therapies for ourselves - what is of course prone for mistakes...
This time it seems all their protocols were fucked up.
I am not too sure you would save him.Sorry,but thing he got it to the level you took him to hospital means your reaction were too late.
Read bold text from my earlier post anyway. It is important. I am not a doctor,but the problem with oversuplementation could be as dangerous as those virus in longer term.
I live near this man and his son's obituary is online for anyone to check out. It is truly mean and heartless to punch someone when they are down. Have you no shame? You people are the dregs of the Earth. Yes there are shills, liars and those that would deceive but this man is not one of them or he went to a lot of trouble to put on a fake funeral. The funny thing about life is karma is real...DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU.
Literally how dare he. Not the time to be a dick to someone. I cannot imagine the pain of losing a child and hope I never have to. To be called a liar over it is just...wow.
I'm a parent of a child with severe special needs who will need lifelong care, He has autism and learning difficulties and he is minimally verbal at age around 10.
When I read your first post, it hit me very hard. I did not want to imagine your pain.
One of the things that personally happens when you are a parent of a very dependent special needs child is that you get re-defined as a carer and your life changes radically in scope and expectation. It's a hard adjustment to make to be a very responsible carer for the rest of your life.
You have had to do this as well, and now suddenly it's all changed an you have to redefine yourself all over again as your responsibilities have changed again unexpectedly. On top of this, you have sunk a huge amount of energy into the care of your son and now have no purpose for all that work, it must feel like a sunk cost.
I know that I've only talked about you and not your son and his own struggle, but both are things you may need to process.
I am so sorry for your loss. I have a child around that age and the only hope I could ever cling on to if that happened to me is that of eternity with my child again and eternity with my Lord and eternity in absolute wonderful bliss 24/7. You'll see your son again. Pour yourself into the word, read it constantly, pray fervently, join a support group of parents who've lost a child.
Don't be mad at God. Be mad at the cowards charged with saving lives who did nothing out of fear of losing their jobs. Better yet, be mad at the enemy of this world, filling it with the lies that lead them astray. God does not change. We do. Our circumstances do.
I can tell you that despite the horror and pain, God is doing something amazing with it, but realistically, you may never know what that is. That makes it hard, but you can trust in faith. It is easy to trust God when things are well, but hard when things are not. That is why we were able to see Job's character only through what he endured.
I cannot relate to your experience, honestly. My heart breaks for you though. I CAN related to the "Peace that surpasses understanding," however. At the darkest times in my life, honest faith and prayer to God in spite of the situation resulted in a peace in my soul I could not explain. I learned this week that the author of the hymn "It is Well with My Soul" wrote it after his family died and his church burned to the ground.
Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. -- Philippians 4:6-7
I am sorry for your loss. My spirit mourns with you, and I pray the Lord will give you the peace of God which surpasses all understanding, that you may say that it is well with your soul.
You will absolutely see him again. He’s near you now and will be throughout your life. You will also have the opportunity to raise him (minus any health conditions) after Christ comes again.
There is a great plan of happiness that we can all learn about. It sounds counterintuitive. How can there be happiness in such a tragic loss? The happinesses comes in the knowledge that Christ overcame death. You will be reunited with your son. You will raise him at the age he was when he passed through the veil. This is true!
I just lost my twin brother. He was in his mid-40s and died unexpectedly a couple days before this past Thanksgiving. He left a wife and three young children. It’s been absolutely devastating and heartbreaking. But the knowledge that I’ve found is the only source of peace as you mourn.
I’d love to share more.
God bless you and your family. Your son is very aware of your pain and is near you. The veil is thin, my friend. May you feel of his perfect love for you.
Much love!
Your pen name is because of your son? Seems he loved ramen. My favorite too.
Your son is in a perfect, painless, eternal body. “It is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.” I Cor. 15:42-44.
What kind of place is heaven? “He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order is passed away.” Rev. 21:4 May the Lord Jesus strengthen, lead and carry through this difficult time.
I lost my father when I was 13. We spent one last Christmas together as a family and the next morning he died of a massive heart-attack. I’m not saying it’s the same as losing a child. I can’t imagine the pain you must feel. I didn’t know Christ at the time. I had no hope, no faith in God or the afterlife. But my father’s death was the catalyst He used to draw me to him 5 years later. You may not see it now, but I can assure you “God works all things for good to those who love Him and are called according to His purpose.” Rom. 8:28
I have a special needs son who I thank the Lord has been very very healthy. However my father was born into a family that was very abusive, I read his journals after his death (he died when I was 7, read his journals at 15). He struggled with all sorts of mental health issues, abuse like I never could have imagined, homosexuality, etc until he died at the age of 37. My mom saw his counselor not long after his death who said he was doing great and the counselor had never met anyone outside of prison who had endured the nightmares my father had and could be a good loving person. He never hit us, never could. I was always so upset about losing my father, I still get jealous of people who have theirs and I’m 44. I always wondered why! My mom told me maybe 10 years ago she believes the Lord looked at my father when his time came and said “you have endured and proved yourself, you don’t have to suffer anymore and can return home”
Your son gained a body and was a perfect human being, no faults, no spiritual imperfections, no sin, just like my little boy. He can’t be tempted by Satan or his minions, your son must have been a very elect soul that was protected in an imperfect body to fulfill a preordained mission in this life. He touched you and I’m sure so many others in his short life, and returned home in perfect glory unblemished by sin and no more pain. The ones here are the ones who hurt from the loss, it sucks. I’ve lost too many loved ones in my early life to not sometimes have bitter feelings about it. I went through counseling a few years back and I learned that our sorrow and pain is the price we pay for the love we have and the joy of knowing the time we had. I can’t understand the pain of losing a child, I can’t imagine how unbearable it is and my heart aches for you. However, having lost as a young child the opposite way and I can tell you time helps. Being the mom of a special needs child I truly feel you were chosen specially to take care of of him and it sounds like you loved him like no one else could but God. My prayers are with you
Ok, now I’m going to cry. As parents we want that for them as well, I hope you can find peace, I feel there isn’t much more I can say. Saying sorry for your loss seems so inadequate but I’ll pray for your peace and comfort.
“Good people pass away; the godly often die before their time. But no one seems to care or wonder why. No one seems to understand that God is protecting them from the evil to come. For those who follow godly paths will rest in peace when they die.”
Isaiah 57:1-2 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/isa.57.1-2.NLT
Sorry for your loss. I have not gone through what you are experiencing, but it must be the hardest thing anybody has to go through. Your feelings are perfectly normal, life is unfair and what you are expressing is ok. Some might say stay strong, but you have all the right to break down and cry. Don't hold the pain in or it will hurt you.
God understands your pain. He has been there. He gave His own Son as a sacrifice so He could have a relationship with us - we who chose to rebel against Him - and the world nearly stopped because of His grief. God didn’t take your son away, He brought him to Himself where He can protect him and keep him safe - free from the suffering of this world. We can’t see the things of Heaven from here, but this life is temporal and the next life is eternal. Your son is not gone - in what will seem to be the blink of an eye in Eternity, we will all be reunited. Your son fulfilled his mission and he’s gone on to his reward; we all will one day. The separation is SO painful, but God wants to give you peace. Be honest with Him - pour out your sorrow, but don’t block His path to minister to you with blame. He sees so much more than we can see. Trust is hard, but love NEVER dies. I pray a supernatural comfort for both you and your wife, and I pray God will reveal Himself to you both in a way that gives you peace that passes all understanding.
Be honest with yourself and God. A lot of people take the story of Job one of two ways. One, "look how bad Job had it. Your life could be worse." This is wrong. Everyone's lives suck in one form or another. Some may seem to get it best, but life is about taking our lot in life and making something of it. It's not about comparing pain and competing in the pain Olympics. That being said, you "win". There is no pain greater in this life than losing your children. Does not matter when in life. It's terrible.
Job interpretation 2 is that when Job finally asked God, "Hey man, what the hell?" God says, "Where were you when I created everything?". People take this interpretation as God putting Job in his place, which is true, but there's a key moment that often gets overlooked. While Job didn't get a satisfactory answer, he felt peace and tranquility. All of a sudden the world made sense to him again and he was able to move on from the hardship. But this only happened until AFTER he went before God and expressed his true feelings.
You will not grow with God if you are not truthful with Him and He wants us to be truthful in everything. Even if blasphemy is on our heart, he'd rather we express it than not (and to clarify, being angry with God doesn't always equal blasphemy). To seek truth is to seek God and so when we pretend we're okay, when we lie to ourselves that we aren't angry with God, we start to resent Him because someone put in our ear that we should be so lucky to even know God. While that may end up being true, He is not an insecure baby. Exactly the opposite. I know this because when I went so far as to tell God "fuck you" He never killed me. Instead He let me wonder and slowly we came to an understanding.
I still have my disagreements on things. But that is the awesome part: you are allowed to disagree. He will tell us everything when the time comes. But not until there is repentance and that can't happen until your heart is "purged" of anger and that happens when you are truthful with Him. You are more likely to stumble away if you live a façade of trying to hide your true feelings, whereas if you tell Him you are mad, He will help you through.
"When I find myself in times of trouble, mother Mary comes to me. Speaking words of wisdom, Let. It. Be." -Paul McCartney
I don't well understand god, but I believe he may have taken him because it was just too much. He was only going to suffer here anyway. He lives, though. In you.
Remember him for all our sakes.
"They say you die twice, once when your brain stops working and once, a long time from then, when somebody says your name for the last time."-Anonymous, commonly attributed to Banksy.
Don't forget him.
Praying for you pede.... One day when you join him and see him running and playing like never before, the pain will be gone... until then, you are in the lions den.
Lean into each other....over time, you will remember the good times more than the bad and you will smile and laugh...
Prayers sent, nothing I can say will help you accept your loss, but I am very sorry. I cannot imagine the pain. I myself lost my partner of 15 years Jan 23rd of last year 1 day after my 57th birthday due to major health issues, they were 73 a child is worse, I am sure. Did the docs kill him by "covid protocol"? Perhaps keep reaching out to others this happened to and look into a class action suit against HC/big Pharm etc. I know this can't bring him back, but I am sure you are not alone. Perhaps try to stop this from happening to ANY other child to help heal yourself and your family. Again I am so very sorry .
You can blame the hospital and the doctors not God. God loves everyone especially children. God is not cruel. Your anger at God is satan's foot-in-your-door. Do not allow it. Slam the door on his foot in the Mighty Name of Jesus.
Your son has gone to be with God's Son in heaven. In fact, he is in a much better place than you and I. Ask the Lord to replace your sadness with the joy of knowing your son for 13 years and the knowledge that you will be reunited some day where there will be no sorrow or sadness. I have said a prayer for you. May God bless you.
Sue them....sounds like they did nothing or were negligent? So very sorry for your loss. I could not imagine this pain. I can, i have kids, but damn. All i can say is that we are all here for yall.
Holy shit. Wow. I agree on the zero urgency having seen it w my dad but he was a 73 yr old man. You'd think they'd be panicked with a kid. Fuck. Im so sorry, pede
I've seen it from the opposite end fren. I lost my dad earlier this year (72) who had suffered through years and years of tragic hospital visits (heart attacks, fell from a 2 story building, tree fell on him, hit and run motorcycle accident... encephalitis where he lost his mind for a few days)... Sadly I wish I was making any of it up, but it was to a point where we had normal routines to get ready to go to the hospital for the next round of recovery, just kind of figured he couldn't be killed. He wound up with an aggressive form of cancer that swooped in quick and in the end he "got" covid and died a day later, alone, because no one was allowed to be in the isolation ward.
I've had a hard time piecing things together myself. He was a God fearing man with his own set of faults, but at the end of the day he was an insanely loyal husband/father and he tried his best to set us on the right path. We had a lot of talks through the years about why God let everything happen to him, and I've been stuck trying to wade through that muddy water myself for the past few months (especially given the holidays)... There's no answer that can mend the wound. For me, I've just resigned myself to the fact that I can't blame God for something man created. It's not your fault, in my case not my dad's fault, in yours, not your sons fault, but man in general and the sin brought in to this world that we constantly have to battle against.
There's an unfortunate difference between being all knowing, and controlling every situation. This is the painful side of free will and being impacted by the decisions of others before us. Someday, maybe something he did, or something you'll do in his honor will impact someone's life in a way that just can't be understood yet. It won't make it any easier, and it won't be God's will that he had to die for something good to happen, but in the end, all that's left is some type of hope that it can mean something. I'll pray for your family, I can't even imagine the pain of losing a son, especially someone, from what you had described, who took such an investment of love and care by both you and your wife.
Will be 80 in a month. Life and death aren't what you seem to be making of them - life good, death bad and life conscious, death some sort of garbage can.
Life and death are more alike than you seem to take them to be. Consciousness - awareness - is not a function of biological life and it is not something that is held as a private individual attribute.
In your particular situation you might find it interesting to watch a lot of videos and read a few books about the near-death experience. Many of the stories are well told and very convincing.
Consciousness survives death. The biological body dies of course. Well - it transforms. It can no longer walk or speak or eat or look into your eyes. Those things are biological. Consciousness is not biological.
You are in a good space to investigate these things for yourself. Don't rely on what other people tell you. Consciousness is yours. The surest way to find out its real nature is to examine your own consciousness.
Finding what consciousness is and is not will give you great courage for the rest of your life.
All our bodies come and go. How can that be wrong? Consciousness is very different.
You are fully entitled to feel the way you feel and to take all the time you need to grieve. Your son graced the earth only for a short while but I bet he taught those around him something huge about love and sacrifice. He is now pain-free, living whole with God. And that's something to celebrate. God bless your family.
Dear Fren, the last post I responded to was to a man (at Patriots.win) who said his son died today in utero at 42 weeks. There is so much sorrow in the world, it seems. I’m very sorry for your loss of dear Ares Dobson. He was so handsome and I love his smile. Our Heavenly Father sent His son, Jesus, to die for our sins so we could have the hope of eternal life in Heaven. I read a really comforting book on Heaven by Dr. David Jeremiah. I believe the Bible promises we will be reunited with our loved ones. Ares is now free from pain and I pray I can meet him in Heaven. May you be comforted and have God’s supernatural peace. http://lacedwithgrace.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/2-Cor.-1-3-4.jpg
My deepest condolences to you and your family. I can not even begin to imagine the heartbreak you are going through. I pray that you are able to find comfort in reliving the many memories of your sweet child and with time, find it in your heart to not be angry with our Heavenly Father and know that it is He who has truly healed your son now, who will be preparing a place for you when it is your time to also be in the most glorious place.
I'm so sorry, TR. I know that's the understatement of the year, but know that we care and share in your pain. I cannot pretend to know what you are going through.
Fight through this pain and stay strong for two reasons:
-Your wife needs you right now more than ever.
-Your son is smiling down at you and wants you to be happy.
My wife always has visions of people she is close to just after they have died. I don’t know if somehow she has an ability to sense their spirit or what but I believe her.
She saw my dad after he passed and said he was soooo happy. He spoke to her and used phrases that were particular to him that my wife wouldn’t have known about.
My father too was in constant excruciating pain for many years before his death.
It gave me comfort to hear her say how happy he was.
My sincere condolences. Unexpected death can be hard. I'm personally dealing with the unexpected death of my beloved spouse. It's taken me a while to really understand that no one really dies; their energy is transformed from corporeal to non-physical. That by focusing on the happier moments, on remembering the joy of our union, I find comfort. Plus the fact I think I'm being haunted (in a good way). Why these thing happen, I cannot say. But I know I have no control over the death process. And rather beat myself up over something which I cannot control, I decided it was easier to accept that God needed my spouse more than I did.
[1] The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart: and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come.
I understand your perspective on this but think about it from your sons perspective. Living in the pain you describe and being released from it. He's in a much better place than you and I and frankly, considering what is coming on the horizon, this is a mercy to you. God bless, stay strong.
And it wasn't thrown in the garbage. What better place than being in God's hands outside of this wretched society?
Amen 🙏🏻❤️
My heart is breaking for you and your wife. We don't know why your son was called home but I believe God is still loving and caring for you.
Accept His Love. Let Him guide you. Talk to your son...I believe he can hear you and is perfectly healed.
God Bless you both frens. 💔🙏💕
May your son rest in peace - and simultaneously finally be able to run,walk and play in heaven with angels like he dreamed. You will meat him some day in heaven so do not despair.
Sorry for some people here,but it seems you were mistaken with some of those filthy shills. Probably because you wrote "died because of covid" (what isn't so clear,but this later).Your son was very ill and it was unfortunately very possible to happen because of weak respiratory muscles even if it would be normal flu. Thing is as you mention - hospital protocols can be deadly. This is first thing.
Second thing is sepsis. Yes,it may be related to coronavirus,but DON't have to. Sepsis also can happen because of using respirator. It could be caused by bacteria too for example. And even if usually American hospitals do too many medical exams they might ignored it because of "covid". If that would be for example bacteria they wouldn't too admit. And if there were bacteria then remdesivir would NOT be enough. But those "medics" have "protocols" :( But for sure they were allowed to NOT do necessary checks because of "deadly" covid and there were no autopsy of your kid so no proves...
And only thing probably you would do were reacting earlier and applying C,D,Zinc and Ivermectin on first symptoms. But I am not sure it would help or not, we cannot change things which happened.
You (and many people here) do one wrong thing: ivermectin and C and D and zinc shall be applied in first LIGHT phase of covid.
Ivermectin (and more popular in my country amantadine) are replication inhibitors, so those drugs are stopping or rather slowing rate of breeding of those virus,but NOT killing existing virus particles itself !!! Your immune system have to do the rest
Of course as all drugs ivermectin or even suplementation@ with C & D CANNOT be used continuosly for too long - it would as well damage your health if you are healthy. But if there are symptoms it shall be used immediately
@ C and D oversuplementation can lead to HYPERCALCEMIA,BEWARE !!!
Symptoms of Hypercalcaemia:
it can interfere with how your brain works, resulting in confusion, lethargy and fatigue. It can also cause depression.
it weakens your bone - bone pain and muscle weakness.
excessive thirst and frequent urination.
stomach upset, nausea, vomiting and constipation.
So remember - after Covid ends in your family you and your wife shall probably STOP or LOWER suplementation for some small period of time. Probably you got some immunity against corona if you are healthy now
Especially headache of your wife might be disquieting if she is healthy now.
Unfortunately all drugs or even vitamins and food can do some damage too... It is INFURIATING that most of medics are so corrupted to and we have to chose therapies for ourselves - what is of course prone for mistakes...
This time it seems all their protocols were fucked up.
I am not too sure you would save him.Sorry,but thing he got it to the level you took him to hospital means your reaction were too late.
Read bold text from my earlier post anyway. It is important. I am not a doctor,but the problem with oversuplementation could be as dangerous as those virus in longer term.
Now we will never know this :( But remember, your son is surely in heaven - for all he suffered in his life there is no other option.
Now important is - take care of yourself and your wife. Make sure you are healthy and NOT overdosed vitamins or ivermectin.
I live near this man and his son's obituary is online for anyone to check out. It is truly mean and heartless to punch someone when they are down. Have you no shame? You people are the dregs of the Earth. Yes there are shills, liars and those that would deceive but this man is not one of them or he went to a lot of trouble to put on a fake funeral. The funny thing about life is karma is real...DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU.
Shill. Shills get deported. Bye u disrespectful little bitch. This Pede lost their child. How dare you.
Literally how dare he. Not the time to be a dick to someone. I cannot imagine the pain of losing a child and hope I never have to. To be called a liar over it is just...wow.
And sometimes you just need to shut the fuck up if you can’t be empathetic.
yep.
So I'm not the only one to call bs on this post.
nope.
I am so sorry for your loss. Covid did not kill your son, the hospital did and the rat bastards need to hang.
Im very sorry. Prayers for strength and peace Patriot.
Hi
I'm a parent of a child with severe special needs who will need lifelong care, He has autism and learning difficulties and he is minimally verbal at age around 10.
When I read your first post, it hit me very hard. I did not want to imagine your pain.
One of the things that personally happens when you are a parent of a very dependent special needs child is that you get re-defined as a carer and your life changes radically in scope and expectation. It's a hard adjustment to make to be a very responsible carer for the rest of your life.
You have had to do this as well, and now suddenly it's all changed an you have to redefine yourself all over again as your responsibilities have changed again unexpectedly. On top of this, you have sunk a huge amount of energy into the care of your son and now have no purpose for all that work, it must feel like a sunk cost.
I know that I've only talked about you and not your son and his own struggle, but both are things you may need to process.
My fren, I feel for you.
Who doesn't get frustrated! I don't think it's in us to always be calm under such continual demand.
Know that we're here for you.
(hug) I am so very sorry for your loss.
Grieve all that you need to. God understands your pain. He is there for you. Yell to Him. Let Him hear. I pray for strength, comfort, and wisdom.
I am so sorry for your loss. I have a child around that age and the only hope I could ever cling on to if that happened to me is that of eternity with my child again and eternity with my Lord and eternity in absolute wonderful bliss 24/7. You'll see your son again. Pour yourself into the word, read it constantly, pray fervently, join a support group of parents who've lost a child.
Sorry for your loss
Don't be mad at God. Be mad at the cowards charged with saving lives who did nothing out of fear of losing their jobs. Better yet, be mad at the enemy of this world, filling it with the lies that lead them astray. God does not change. We do. Our circumstances do.
I can tell you that despite the horror and pain, God is doing something amazing with it, but realistically, you may never know what that is. That makes it hard, but you can trust in faith. It is easy to trust God when things are well, but hard when things are not. That is why we were able to see Job's character only through what he endured.
I cannot relate to your experience, honestly. My heart breaks for you though. I CAN related to the "Peace that surpasses understanding," however. At the darkest times in my life, honest faith and prayer to God in spite of the situation resulted in a peace in my soul I could not explain. I learned this week that the author of the hymn "It is Well with My Soul" wrote it after his family died and his church burned to the ground.
I am sorry for your loss. My spirit mourns with you, and I pray the Lord will give you the peace of God which surpasses all understanding, that you may say that it is well with your soul.
You will absolutely see him again. He’s near you now and will be throughout your life. You will also have the opportunity to raise him (minus any health conditions) after Christ comes again. There is a great plan of happiness that we can all learn about. It sounds counterintuitive. How can there be happiness in such a tragic loss? The happinesses comes in the knowledge that Christ overcame death. You will be reunited with your son. You will raise him at the age he was when he passed through the veil. This is true! I just lost my twin brother. He was in his mid-40s and died unexpectedly a couple days before this past Thanksgiving. He left a wife and three young children. It’s been absolutely devastating and heartbreaking. But the knowledge that I’ve found is the only source of peace as you mourn. I’d love to share more. God bless you and your family. Your son is very aware of your pain and is near you. The veil is thin, my friend. May you feel of his perfect love for you. Much love!
Your pen name is because of your son? Seems he loved ramen. My favorite too.
Your son is in a perfect, painless, eternal body. “It is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.” I Cor. 15:42-44.
What kind of place is heaven? “He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order is passed away.” Rev. 21:4 May the Lord Jesus strengthen, lead and carry through this difficult time.
I lost my father when I was 13. We spent one last Christmas together as a family and the next morning he died of a massive heart-attack. I’m not saying it’s the same as losing a child. I can’t imagine the pain you must feel. I didn’t know Christ at the time. I had no hope, no faith in God or the afterlife. But my father’s death was the catalyst He used to draw me to him 5 years later. You may not see it now, but I can assure you “God works all things for good to those who love Him and are called according to His purpose.” Rom. 8:28
This right here. ☝🏻 Carry on what he started. I hope you can find peace through finding God. Praying for you and your family.
He heals the brokenhearted and binds up their wounds. Psalm 147:3
I have a special needs son who I thank the Lord has been very very healthy. However my father was born into a family that was very abusive, I read his journals after his death (he died when I was 7, read his journals at 15). He struggled with all sorts of mental health issues, abuse like I never could have imagined, homosexuality, etc until he died at the age of 37. My mom saw his counselor not long after his death who said he was doing great and the counselor had never met anyone outside of prison who had endured the nightmares my father had and could be a good loving person. He never hit us, never could. I was always so upset about losing my father, I still get jealous of people who have theirs and I’m 44. I always wondered why! My mom told me maybe 10 years ago she believes the Lord looked at my father when his time came and said “you have endured and proved yourself, you don’t have to suffer anymore and can return home” Your son gained a body and was a perfect human being, no faults, no spiritual imperfections, no sin, just like my little boy. He can’t be tempted by Satan or his minions, your son must have been a very elect soul that was protected in an imperfect body to fulfill a preordained mission in this life. He touched you and I’m sure so many others in his short life, and returned home in perfect glory unblemished by sin and no more pain. The ones here are the ones who hurt from the loss, it sucks. I’ve lost too many loved ones in my early life to not sometimes have bitter feelings about it. I went through counseling a few years back and I learned that our sorrow and pain is the price we pay for the love we have and the joy of knowing the time we had. I can’t understand the pain of losing a child, I can’t imagine how unbearable it is and my heart aches for you. However, having lost as a young child the opposite way and I can tell you time helps. Being the mom of a special needs child I truly feel you were chosen specially to take care of of him and it sounds like you loved him like no one else could but God. My prayers are with you
Ok, now I’m going to cry. As parents we want that for them as well, I hope you can find peace, I feel there isn’t much more I can say. Saying sorry for your loss seems so inadequate but I’ll pray for your peace and comfort.
I cried when your son passed - I honestly do not know how I would have dealt with it. I think I would have been VERY ANGRY
“Good people pass away; the godly often die before their time. But no one seems to care or wonder why. No one seems to understand that God is protecting them from the evil to come. For those who follow godly paths will rest in peace when they die.” Isaiah 57:1-2 NLT https://bible.com/bible/116/isa.57.1-2.NLT
Sorry for your loss. I have not gone through what you are experiencing, but it must be the hardest thing anybody has to go through. Your feelings are perfectly normal, life is unfair and what you are expressing is ok. Some might say stay strong, but you have all the right to break down and cry. Don't hold the pain in or it will hurt you.
Only your son's body is lost. He is still with you. He will leave signs - look for them.
Take a look at this site:
https://www.victorzammit.com/December24th2021
I'm sorry for your loss.
God understands your pain. He has been there. He gave His own Son as a sacrifice so He could have a relationship with us - we who chose to rebel against Him - and the world nearly stopped because of His grief. God didn’t take your son away, He brought him to Himself where He can protect him and keep him safe - free from the suffering of this world. We can’t see the things of Heaven from here, but this life is temporal and the next life is eternal. Your son is not gone - in what will seem to be the blink of an eye in Eternity, we will all be reunited. Your son fulfilled his mission and he’s gone on to his reward; we all will one day. The separation is SO painful, but God wants to give you peace. Be honest with Him - pour out your sorrow, but don’t block His path to minister to you with blame. He sees so much more than we can see. Trust is hard, but love NEVER dies. I pray a supernatural comfort for both you and your wife, and I pray God will reveal Himself to you both in a way that gives you peace that passes all understanding.
Be honest with yourself and God. A lot of people take the story of Job one of two ways. One, "look how bad Job had it. Your life could be worse." This is wrong. Everyone's lives suck in one form or another. Some may seem to get it best, but life is about taking our lot in life and making something of it. It's not about comparing pain and competing in the pain Olympics. That being said, you "win". There is no pain greater in this life than losing your children. Does not matter when in life. It's terrible.
Job interpretation 2 is that when Job finally asked God, "Hey man, what the hell?" God says, "Where were you when I created everything?". People take this interpretation as God putting Job in his place, which is true, but there's a key moment that often gets overlooked. While Job didn't get a satisfactory answer, he felt peace and tranquility. All of a sudden the world made sense to him again and he was able to move on from the hardship. But this only happened until AFTER he went before God and expressed his true feelings.
You will not grow with God if you are not truthful with Him and He wants us to be truthful in everything. Even if blasphemy is on our heart, he'd rather we express it than not (and to clarify, being angry with God doesn't always equal blasphemy). To seek truth is to seek God and so when we pretend we're okay, when we lie to ourselves that we aren't angry with God, we start to resent Him because someone put in our ear that we should be so lucky to even know God. While that may end up being true, He is not an insecure baby. Exactly the opposite. I know this because when I went so far as to tell God "fuck you" He never killed me. Instead He let me wonder and slowly we came to an understanding.
I still have my disagreements on things. But that is the awesome part: you are allowed to disagree. He will tell us everything when the time comes. But not until there is repentance and that can't happen until your heart is "purged" of anger and that happens when you are truthful with Him. You are more likely to stumble away if you live a façade of trying to hide your true feelings, whereas if you tell Him you are mad, He will help you through.
"When I find myself in times of trouble, mother Mary comes to me. Speaking words of wisdom, Let. It. Be." -Paul McCartney
I don't well understand god, but I believe he may have taken him because it was just too much. He was only going to suffer here anyway. He lives, though. In you. Remember him for all our sakes.
"They say you die twice, once when your brain stops working and once, a long time from then, when somebody says your name for the last time."-Anonymous, commonly attributed to Banksy. Don't forget him.
Praying for you pede.... One day when you join him and see him running and playing like never before, the pain will be gone... until then, you are in the lions den.
Lean into each other....over time, you will remember the good times more than the bad and you will smile and laugh...
Prayers sent, nothing I can say will help you accept your loss, but I am very sorry. I cannot imagine the pain. I myself lost my partner of 15 years Jan 23rd of last year 1 day after my 57th birthday due to major health issues, they were 73 a child is worse, I am sure. Did the docs kill him by "covid protocol"? Perhaps keep reaching out to others this happened to and look into a class action suit against HC/big Pharm etc. I know this can't bring him back, but I am sure you are not alone. Perhaps try to stop this from happening to ANY other child to help heal yourself and your family. Again I am so very sorry .
Peace be with you both.
You can blame the hospital and the doctors not God. God loves everyone especially children. God is not cruel. Your anger at God is satan's foot-in-your-door. Do not allow it. Slam the door on his foot in the Mighty Name of Jesus.
Your son has gone to be with God's Son in heaven. In fact, he is in a much better place than you and I. Ask the Lord to replace your sadness with the joy of knowing your son for 13 years and the knowledge that you will be reunited some day where there will be no sorrow or sadness. I have said a prayer for you. May God bless you.
Please read the book of Job.
A Grief Observed is a beautiful and helpful book. C.S. Lewis wrote it when his wife, Joy, died of cancer.
Sue them....sounds like they did nothing or were negligent? So very sorry for your loss. I could not imagine this pain. I can, i have kids, but damn. All i can say is that we are all here for yall.
Holy shit. Wow. I agree on the zero urgency having seen it w my dad but he was a 73 yr old man. You'd think they'd be panicked with a kid. Fuck. Im so sorry, pede
Wow!! Had to get permission to give vital VITAMINS!!!?? got'damn so angering. Im so sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've seen it from the opposite end fren. I lost my dad earlier this year (72) who had suffered through years and years of tragic hospital visits (heart attacks, fell from a 2 story building, tree fell on him, hit and run motorcycle accident... encephalitis where he lost his mind for a few days)... Sadly I wish I was making any of it up, but it was to a point where we had normal routines to get ready to go to the hospital for the next round of recovery, just kind of figured he couldn't be killed. He wound up with an aggressive form of cancer that swooped in quick and in the end he "got" covid and died a day later, alone, because no one was allowed to be in the isolation ward.
I've had a hard time piecing things together myself. He was a God fearing man with his own set of faults, but at the end of the day he was an insanely loyal husband/father and he tried his best to set us on the right path. We had a lot of talks through the years about why God let everything happen to him, and I've been stuck trying to wade through that muddy water myself for the past few months (especially given the holidays)... There's no answer that can mend the wound. For me, I've just resigned myself to the fact that I can't blame God for something man created. It's not your fault, in my case not my dad's fault, in yours, not your sons fault, but man in general and the sin brought in to this world that we constantly have to battle against.
There's an unfortunate difference between being all knowing, and controlling every situation. This is the painful side of free will and being impacted by the decisions of others before us. Someday, maybe something he did, or something you'll do in his honor will impact someone's life in a way that just can't be understood yet. It won't make it any easier, and it won't be God's will that he had to die for something good to happen, but in the end, all that's left is some type of hope that it can mean something. I'll pray for your family, I can't even imagine the pain of losing a son, especially someone, from what you had described, who took such an investment of love and care by both you and your wife.
Will be 80 in a month. Life and death aren't what you seem to be making of them - life good, death bad and life conscious, death some sort of garbage can.
Life and death are more alike than you seem to take them to be. Consciousness - awareness - is not a function of biological life and it is not something that is held as a private individual attribute.
In your particular situation you might find it interesting to watch a lot of videos and read a few books about the near-death experience. Many of the stories are well told and very convincing.
Consciousness survives death. The biological body dies of course. Well - it transforms. It can no longer walk or speak or eat or look into your eyes. Those things are biological. Consciousness is not biological.
You are in a good space to investigate these things for yourself. Don't rely on what other people tell you. Consciousness is yours. The surest way to find out its real nature is to examine your own consciousness.
Finding what consciousness is and is not will give you great courage for the rest of your life.
All our bodies come and go. How can that be wrong? Consciousness is very different.
You are fully entitled to feel the way you feel and to take all the time you need to grieve. Your son graced the earth only for a short while but I bet he taught those around him something huge about love and sacrifice. He is now pain-free, living whole with God. And that's something to celebrate. God bless your family.
Dear Fren, the last post I responded to was to a man (at Patriots.win) who said his son died today in utero at 42 weeks. There is so much sorrow in the world, it seems. I’m very sorry for your loss of dear Ares Dobson. He was so handsome and I love his smile. Our Heavenly Father sent His son, Jesus, to die for our sins so we could have the hope of eternal life in Heaven. I read a really comforting book on Heaven by Dr. David Jeremiah. I believe the Bible promises we will be reunited with our loved ones. Ares is now free from pain and I pray I can meet him in Heaven. May you be comforted and have God’s supernatural peace. http://lacedwithgrace.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/2-Cor.-1-3-4.jpg
My deepest condolences to you and your family. I can not even begin to imagine the heartbreak you are going through. I pray that you are able to find comfort in reliving the many memories of your sweet child and with time, find it in your heart to not be angry with our Heavenly Father and know that it is He who has truly healed your son now, who will be preparing a place for you when it is your time to also be in the most glorious place.
I'm so sorry, TR. I know that's the understatement of the year, but know that we care and share in your pain. I cannot pretend to know what you are going through.
Fight through this pain and stay strong for two reasons: -Your wife needs you right now more than ever. -Your son is smiling down at you and wants you to be happy.
My wife always has visions of people she is close to just after they have died. I don’t know if somehow she has an ability to sense their spirit or what but I believe her. She saw my dad after he passed and said he was soooo happy. He spoke to her and used phrases that were particular to him that my wife wouldn’t have known about.
My father too was in constant excruciating pain for many years before his death.
It gave me comfort to hear her say how happy he was.
Sorry for you loss. I have a 14 year old and I can't imagine not having him by my side.
My sincere condolences. Unexpected death can be hard. I'm personally dealing with the unexpected death of my beloved spouse. It's taken me a while to really understand that no one really dies; their energy is transformed from corporeal to non-physical. That by focusing on the happier moments, on remembering the joy of our union, I find comfort. Plus the fact I think I'm being haunted (in a good way). Why these thing happen, I cannot say. But I know I have no control over the death process. And rather beat myself up over something which I cannot control, I decided it was easier to accept that God needed my spouse more than I did.
Isa.57