In a store last night, I saw a man wearing a face mask. Not many of those around anymore, but still too many. This man was probably a little north of 70 years old, judging by his silver hair and older look.
The mask he was wearing was not a regular one, but a very thick, cloth. Seemed like he would suffocate in it.
I don't know why, but I just said to him in a friendly way, "You know, that mask doesn't really do anything for you."
He said, "Well ... I have had pneumonia twice in the past two years."
I said, "Maybe wearing that mask has caused you respiratory problems."
He said, "Yeah, I wonder about that."
I told him about why doctors wear masks in operating rooms, and how they have studied this subject for over 50 years, long before Covid.
He said, "I'm listening."
I told him that no study has ever proven that masks are effective at preventing the transmission of any illness, and some studies have shown they are harmful to wear. In fact, some surgeons now recommend not wearing them, or wearing them as little as possible.
He said, "My friend sounds just like you. Maybe you guys are right."
I told him he should check out Dr. Shawn Baker on Youtube, who talks about the studies. He said he would.
During the conversation, he also mentioned how hard it is to know who to believe, because there is so much conflicting information.
I was surprised at how open and willing he was to consider what I had to say.
Some of these people have just been traumatized so much, that they don't know what to do.
Gives me a little empathy for some of them ... SOME of them.
This is how The Awakening works, friends! There are people out there starving for information, or just want the safe space to know they aren't crazy! Just like 2016, they will talk if they know they can speak freely.
To the normies I meet, I recommend "Facts Matter with Roman Balmakov" for news. He provides his sources, stood with Trump during the election fight in December 2020, and is reporting on Durham.
Older people have seen more shit than we have, but they've been lulled to sleep.
They've always woken up quicker than any Reddit "know it alls", in my experience.
Older people also arent always quick handed with a search engine, so the YT recommendation helps them big time.
They don't know how to navigate the net either. Most are quite illiterate in that regard.
I think Pede's approach helped as well. Pede got the intuition to talk to him and followed through on that inner guidance. Then kindly shared information. I've used a similar approach to people and then seen them the following week without a mask. A little bit every day adds up.
Oh, I didn't think there was anything wrong with it. Just sharing my experience.
One of the key elements of the discussion as you relayed it is that you showed respect and compassion for the gentleman. There is much to be gained from his response. I would encourage us all to realize that every person, no matter their beliefs, will respond better than otherwise might be the case if we demonstrate compassion and respect. If we do, then their response is truly on them, and maybe they will listen.
For some reason, I felt sorry for him, and that is why I opened my mouth.
After talking with him, I felt even more sorry.
But the good news is, it drove home the point (to me) that some of these people are so confused that they don't really know why they do what they do. Some of them really ARE willing to listen to other ideas, but they just don't know how to process -- they don't know how to engage in critical thinking.
OTOH, I know people who will get angry at the first hint of this type of discussion. That saddens me even more, because they are hopelessly lost, though they actually think they know what they are doing.
I have more respect for this man, than I do for them.
If it were a 20 year old, you wouldn't have felt sorry for him, and his response would have been pissy anyway
I find older people are just afraid and "to be safe" they wear it. A gentle nudge is sometimes all it takes with them.
Had a great conversation yesterday with an older Vietnam Veteran. He was leaving the blood lab and saw me without a mask. Told him that they don't do anything, he agreed and also said he wasn't getting any boosters.
I warned him that Flying Monkey Pox and Polio were next on deck and to not believe it.
"Polio is back, and here's why the unvaccinated are the reason" -the daily beast
Seriously? Dang, I check out from the internet for ONE day and a month’s worth of crap happens for me to catch up on!! They started pushing polio now? What the heck!? I haven’t even gotten to use my red pill, monkey pox knowledge on people yet! 😩🤯🤷🏼♀️😂😂
They are using pictures of shingles reactivated by the jab and stating it's Monkey pox. I've been out collecting herbs and other natural plant remedies.
"Doctors are FURIOUS about this one new virus - click link for more"
If you're not careful they'll be offering you a job LOL.
I agree bc I see mostly elderly and POC wearing the masks now. With the elderly ones I figure they are in fear bc of perhaps some underlying conditions they may have. I believe the blacks are simply not trusting the jab bc of things in the past that have been done to blacks. That's probably a good thing!
Well, from reading the studies, black people bc of a number of genetic factors (sickle cell type stuff common only to African americans) Covid outcome is worse for them and Vax is more dangerous. So an elderly overweight black lady for example is being prudent to take measures for precaution even if said measures are dumb and ineffective.
Yep see my comment in this thread
Done good.
Another key is that OP wasn't the first one to get to this guy. When it was one sane person talking to him vs. the rest of the world, how was he going to go with that? But when there was a second guy completely separately, plus it made sense to him…now we're getting somewhere. This is why we have to speak out, to let people know they can do it.
Good on you. God spoke through you and the man heard it.
I had a similar story when I went to the bar.
The lady and her husband next to me started talking trash about the guy on TV wearing a mask saying "how did we get this far?"
By the end of the conversation, I gave them a link to 2000 Mules, links to buy Ivermectin and the FLCCC I-Mask protocol. Then we traded the different "I Did That" stickers we had.
There's people are out there looking for info, but don't know where to turn. You might be surprised at how far behind the narrative they are.
Don't doubt yourself, you just might be the most interesting guy in the room!
My friend and I have had some great conversations eating dinner at bars instead of at a table. She is a total extrovert (I am not!) and will strike up conversations with anyone. She has the medical facts and I have the rest. A red-pilling team!
What's on TV is a perfect conversation starter. You can tell the liberals and conservatives apart from how they dress, hairstyles, glasses, and tattoos, etc.
Line up 25 libs and 25 MAGA and I will nail it 100%. Someone that lives on soy and fake meat look different. Their skin isn't the same.
Absolutely right. Both sides also use key words from the media to trigger emotions within one another.
Soy and fake meat sends estrogen levels thru the roof.
I was believing you until you said "we traded I did that joe biden stickers"
Lol, why was that part so hard to believe?
Sounds comically stereotypical of MAGA Qtards lol
"comically stereotypical" says the guy referencing Sword Art Online. 😆
Digging through my post history is cute. Didnt mean to offend your boomer sticker hobby. Thanks for doing your part soldier!
Had to make sure you weren't a shill or a doomer.
SAO has some good animation despite copying .hack
Older people that aren't saavy to finding information on the internet are sitting ducks for misinformation from the msm. We have to try and be understanding with them.
You’re brave. Ain’t no way I’d ever confront someone wearing a mask. Wearing a mask or not wearing one…in my area asking either way is grounds to get shot.
Glad your encounter was amicable.
Yeah if I see someone with a mask on I avoid then like the plague. Luckily for OP this guy was open minded but 95%+ of the time I know they are too far gone.
I tried to explain to a smoker in the cigarette shop why he shouldn't bother wearing a mask.... I just said you know cigarette smokers aren't catching covid because the receptors that the virus latches on to already have nicotine.... Just try to say something quick & to the point. He responded with a huff & said he doesn't smoke with the mask on. I'm like 'Nevermind'.
If he will follow your good argument, probably he will become a chain smoker, unfortunately.
We were in a cigarette shop. I'm pretty sure he already is.
You asume his cigarette compsumtion. Reeeee.
😄 you can just tell about somethings.
I've redpilled a lot of people with that fact as I explain why I haven't quit yet bc of the pandemic bullshit
I made an appointment with an alternative health care provider who does ozone therapy, hyperbaric therapy etc the other day. Before I got off the phone, I asked about masks, she said we don't require them and in fact, we never wore them as the NP says they don't work. I'm thinking this is my place for help for husbands neurological symptoms.😊👍😎 Yay!
70 plus men can feel very vulnerable. They know aren’t the strong young men they used to be. And almost every they do is a reminder.
I'm 70+, had "covid" symptoms very early on (Jan 2020), and it didn't kill me. Although masks are still mandatory here in shops and public buildings, I get away with hanging a fake "breathable" mask around my neck in most places - even the police station. I don't believe Jack shit. I don't feel vulnerable. I think the ones who do feel vulnerable must watch the tell-u-vision.
Way to go, patriot
You got him to be a little less of a controlled slave, and more of a freethinker!
Freeface - freeblood - freethinker
They go together :)
What a nice old man. He's truly one of those people that just doesn't know what's going on so he does what he "thinks" is right, or what others have probably forced on to him, but still he isn't sure what to think. Glad you were so courteous to him, and also glad that he didn't throw a fit right away.
One person at a time.
at his (my) age, he should know better.
Fauci's own study on the Spanish influenza epidemic showed that the wearing of masks did not stop transmission of anything and contributed to bacterial pneumonia problems.
I usually wear a mask when I’m about to commit a crime, so there is that.
The greatest mask perversity will ever wear is that of virtue.
you make a good point... it's easier to attract friends with sugar than vinegar.....
You're a better person than I. I have zero patients for anyone still wearing face diapers. If you're that goddamn afraid then stay home.
Doctors have a lot of patients still wearing face diapers.
Great job!!
Yep, don't belittle them, don't yell at them, they trusted the wrong people. Help them trust again and this time, the right people.
One by one fren. This is the way.
HENCE M-95 MASK We all know that the 95 is the supposed amount of particles it can block, 95 hmm.. What about the other 5%? So really the only reason a suregon must wear a mask has to be so he/she doesn't accidentally burst out with snot or saliva, spit or spray, protecting the patient. Ultimately, I see it as he/she doesn't get sued if an infection from such develops in the patient post surgery, right?
I mean.. Masks have a purpose. When I was ripping up a hardwood floor that had water damage and black mold, I wore an N95 mask. Because I didn't want to breathe in the spores.
Wearing an N95 mask to filter viruses? That's like trying to stop dust from getting into your house by installing chain link fence in your door frames instead of a door. That nasty girl from school that all the football players would shag but never admit to sleeping with? We're talking bigger gaping holes than that.
Now, you're doing surgery and you don't want potentially infectious bodily fluids splashing into you mouth, nose, and eyes? Wear a surgical mask and goggles, or a face shield.
Masks totally have their place. Protection from coronavirus is not one of them.
Right tool for the job and all that.
Best tool to protect against covid 19? Get/Stay healthy, eat right, good sleep, keep your environment clean (not 'sterile') and stop licking door knobs, sucking face with randos, sharing drinks, etc.
No more door knob licking?! No way, that's where I draw the line.
Every man should be allowed ONE vice. I won't judge. Lick away!
Sounds like this guy deserves the empathy. He was willing to hear you out.
Never judge a person too hard. We all once believed the narrative.
If we'd take the time to talk to these individuals, we'd have a lot of conversations like this. They were conditioned to fear everything, but they (not all of them, sure) know that something is wrong. They need guidance, some really need our help.
Older people grew up thinking they could believe and get the truth from whatever the talking head on TV told them. unfortunately even back then it was a lot of bullshit
So many are just trying to err on the side of caution & don't see a 10 year plan of evil in the works. Mention any decade+ long plan & most will just shut off your voice.
Glad you were able to help feed this sheep. Keep it up, you are doing the work of Jesus spreading Truth & Light, whether you mean to or not.
That’s how it works. Give people confusing scenarios, overwhelm them with conflicting info, and most sheep will default to the “higher authority” just to be “safe”. When the MSM is blasting lies, this is what sucks normies in.
This is big, it’s right in the book “How to Win Friends & Influence People”. Even if you know a person is dead wrong, you’ll never get them to consider your argument/correction of their belief if you just flat out tell them they’re wrong. You have to try and understand their personal point of view, no matter how media induced, and where their coming from and make suggestions along those lines. It helps the other save face in their error, and prevents embarrassment or resentment in your attempt to correct them.
“Cooperativeness in conversation is achieved when you show that you consider the other person’s ideas and feeling as important as your own”
Chapter 8
Good for you!
Well done, anon!
It's more than simply being able to breathe properly by not having a mask on. Breathing in air is allowing life into our bodies which in turn allows our spirit to thrive in the reality of life in this world. All of this world is life, and it is wonderful and everything good that we espouse.
When the whole world damn near lost its mind and we're all told to mask up? We know the masks don't do anything...perhaps now you better understand the real intentions behind it. Help people like this old gentleman in the OP to realize again just how amazing we can thrive in life at any time.
Nice work my brother.
Good words OP...
It’s true you never know what’s going to happen… back when everybody was wearing masks my wife and I went to Costco and of course I was not wearing one and old lady came up to me and I thought for sure she was going to say some thing about why I wasn’t wearing a mask and she said has anyone bothered you about not wearing your mask and I said no no one has ever said anything and she said oh that’s interesting I’ve been wanting to take this off forever ….