Exactly, when you read the New testament and see the amount of places they walked to. They were not short distances. How many people today walk 20+ miles a day?
We do nowhere near the amount of exercise they did.
Remember the grains were ground up with mill stones and was much more granular that the fine powders of today. The flour was not washed with bleach to make it white and strip it of all its vitamins like the flours of today.
If you make your own whole grain breads, they are much more nutritious that any package bread you can buy except maybe Ezekiel Bread, which uses sprouted whole grains.
Ever hear of WONDER BREAD? People Wonder why it's called bread😂😂
OmG! My mom used to eat Ezekiel bread. I’m surprised to hear that mentioned here. She often said white bread would ball up in her stomach and not digest. She never had that problem with the Ezekiel bread.
Yes, that's what the company called it, and why.. To us, "We Wonder if it is bread". It can be left on the shelf for months without going moldy. We WONDER what is it made from???
Yes. All of their food was completely different than what we have today. They prepared everything differently. Our version of bread today is nothing like their bread.
That AND they ate whole grain bread. The wheat germ and all. It wasn’t bleached out and processed flour like we have today. It was from whole wheat. Even today’s whole wheat bread is a different animal than 2000 years ago.
Jesus' bread was likely of a sprouted grain variety containing healthy ages-old yeast. Today's bread is basically baked ground-up wallpaper paste with fake fortifications.
No one had trouble processing wheat until Monsatan came along with glyphosate, that's what really gives people "gluten" intolerance. Glyphosate (Roundup) causes all sorts of maladies such as birth defects, cancer, DNA damage, learning disorders, neurodegeneration, and more.
The WHO, back when the had at least the pretense of being a legitimate health organization, published a report on gluten intolerance and in it they laid the blame on vegan diets high in fruit. That too much fructose caused a metabolic bottle neck, leading to more of the bread traveling further down the digestive tract before being broken down.
I'm not a doctor, but the report seemed rather compelling, especially when you consider who typically is gluten intolerant.
The bread in Jesus' time was much less refined. It had much more fiber which is undigestible carbs. That, and they literally walked everywhere they wanted to go.
Ancient wheat was generally einkorn, nature's first and oldest wheat. It has been replaced almost everywhere by hybrids and eventually GMOs that are much shorter. Being shorter makes the plant more robust and able to grow in places the taller grasses can't.
The hybrids were a miracle of science that enabled the feeding of vastly more numbers. But like most scientific miracles, there are trade-offs. The most prominent one being that the new wheat is not as healthy, or even downright harmful.
People back then walked everywhere. They needed the source of energy, I am sure also they didn't eat enriched flour. Different needs = different diets.
A study was done on a tribe of African hunter/gatherers that walk, on average, several miles a day. Turns out they burn only slightly more calories (less than 10% more) than the typical modern office worker. The body adapts to your activity level and walking is amazingly efficient when it is accustomed to it. Those ancient people were almost certainly burning less calories than your typical modern day American.
Who did the study, who paid for the study, and what were the results that they were looking for?
It sounds like to me they’re trying to talk people into sitting behind a desk all day, and convincing them that walking 7 miles a day would do them no good.
I don’t believe it for a minute!
You can’t tell me that it’s normal, and healthy to sit behind a desk all day long, without any exercise and stay healthy.
"It sounds like to me they’re trying to talk people into sitting behind a desk all day, and convincing them that walking 7 miles a day would do them no good."
/facepalm
FFS, no. Obviously walking is good for you. They were merely studying the adaptation of the human body, in particular metabolism. They are literally adapted or accustomed to walking and their body optimizes to that. The body more or less trends to an average caloric consumption regardless of your activity level. obviously working out or strenuous activity seriously increases caloric consumption but the more you do it the better your body gets at it, more efficient which lowers caloric requirements.
Back in those days people consumed a lot less calories and moved around/walked a LOT more than we do today. Bread is also cheap, very fast and easy to make, and the ingredients are simple and easily accessible by anyone. Plus, the bread made back then was obviously much more organic with much less additives and preservatives. I once watched a video regarding our “Wonder Bread” of today, and it’s technically closer to a cake rather than bread.
Remember the bread we buy in stores is made from refined flour, even the so-called "whole wheat" breads.
If you look at wheat berries themselves, they can be stored for years with no refrigeration needed and are very nutritious. When you grind those wheat berries into flour, you're getting the wheat germ and the fiber and all of the actual nutrients.
Corporations strip these nutrients out, and even go as far as bleaching even more of the protein out for flour used in things like cakes and cookies. This is why you can buy "unbleached all-purpose" white flour, and why it's labeled as "unbleached." Meanwhile, the manufacturers sell the bleached flour under the name "cake flour" as opposed to "bleached flour."
Here's the description from Bod's Red Mill for their cake flour-
Cake flour is a light, finely milled flour with a lower protein content than all-purpose flour. Cake flour is milled from soft wheat and contains the lowest amount of protein when compared to other flours, around 5 to 8%. For comparison’s sake, all purpose flour is usually 10 to 13% protein, which can produce good results for almost any recipe. However, the low protein and high starch content in cake flour helps create the lightest, most delicious cakes possible!
The bread that we get from the stores, have a crap ton of fillers chemicals etc.
The bread people ate back then, we’re probably just three ingredients.
Also people back then had to walk everywhere to get where they wanted to go, they got up early and made their own bread fresh, so that meant that they had to use their muscles and body to make that happen. Then the remainder of the day they had to use physical labour to survive.
The pharma food industrial complex has genetically altered All Grains. So our guts are not designed to process this genetic shit. So we get gas, cancer, the shits and however each if us reflects eating grain not designed by God. Likely it is to weaken us and make the food fascists and pharma more $.
Wheat in this country is GMO and sprayed with pesticides as well as stored in ways that can cause microscopic mold to grow. All I know if I can eat bread in France without issue but avoid it like the plague in the US.
The iron "enrichment" or "fortification" is the main thing. They don't add iron to wheat in France or Italy, but here it's the law. There was a good post about that here, but it's been a while.
Yah right, I gonna germinate my own wheat berries, mill them......lol. I'll just not eat bread if I have to do all that!
I chuckle but I know damn well that modern bread has NO similarity to the bread Jesus fed the 5k. I do know what good bread is and we don't grow it here.
I do, it's not that big of a deal. Of course I germinate most all of the seeds I eat. (Beans) Crazy, the enzymes that are activated with water / warmth converts the starches to a much more healthier digestible kind.
Really it's so easy to do, and so good, store bought taste so bad after you've done this a few times you'll never want that store bought crap again.
They have done things to our current food that makes the bread of today almost NOTHING like the bread of Jesus' day. I recommend eating Ezekiel sprouted bread, if you need a packaged bread. And not too much of it - we do not physically LABOR like they did back then! Carbs are for physical work, so if you are not exercising a lot, cut them down.
Bread was designed to be a meat replacement and to feed the slaves and massives; same as rice and pasta. Why is it that a majority of dishes are mostly plant based with a tiny amount of meat and/or dairy. It's to keep the peasants and slaves fed while giving them tiny amounts of nutrients from meat to keep them going. Meat is the true superfood. It feds our brains, keeps us mentally stable and our bodies strong.
Fish and bread were very symbolic of the food Jesus provides for our spirit. Death and decay (2nd Law of Thermodynamics) are unbeatable. Death of the spirit IS beatable :)
Just did this. No more soda and no more Nutty Bars or Swiss Cake Rolls either. I quit drinking alcohol 10 years ago. When I drank I never ate candy or snack cakes but once I cut out the alcohol sugar my body craved sugar like never before. Hopefully I can kick added sugars as easily as I gave up the sauce. And btw, I could have easily drank Andre the Giant under the table back then.
suggest you try using raw/unfiltered honey, when you're jonesin' for sugar...raw/unfiltered honey has many additional health benefits with a spoonful at nighttime, repairing liver, kidneys, gut issues...lotta good research on bedtime honey...must be raw and unfiltered, processed differently in body from how sugar causes hi/lo blood sugar rollercoaster...learned this from experience, and good luck.
There is provision to eat only 'unleavened' bread.
Leavened bread uses bacteria from yeast, and creates stomach issues known even then.
The list of natural leavens contained yeast, beer, yogurt and buttermilk.
The Jews were commanded to eat unleavened bread in the observation of the Passover and feast of unleavened bread (Exodus 12:1-15). In fact, no leavening agents were to be found anywhere in their houses during this time (Exodus 12:15).
Unleavened bread became known as 'shewbread' when used in rituals and is now known as flatbread or pita bread.
'Bread' became the symbol for 'sustenance of life' which explains its use as a euphemism for money as well.
This is usually the deeper interpretation when bread is mentioned in the bible.
As in all stories in the bible, there is a greater and lesser lesson, so to speak.
In this case, the 'greater' lesson is 'Share the Love and it will grow.'
The lesser lesson: Eat crackers or pita bread instead.
They didn't eat bleached wheat flour packed full of preservatives, fillers and additives. Check out what types of grains they ate and made bread from. Ancient grains were far more nutritious than the stuff pushed as grain products today. They also didn't ripen their wheat and oats with Roundup. Flour bleaching is an oxidation process which uses acidic chemicals to speed the process. Prior to chemical bleaching, flour had to sit around and be exposed to sunlight to lose its yellow color. The process of chemically bleaching flour strips a large portion of the vitamins, minerals and nutrients from flour as well as the natural yellow color of the grain. Most of what we get now days has basically about the same nutrition as Elmer's glue, hence why they have to "fortify" most flour with folic acid and vitamins now days.
Read the ingredients in a bag of bread. The only one I semi trust is orowheat. Minimum ingredients in most of their products. The others are loaded with things most of us can’t pronounce!
Bread back then was not even the same grain. Wheat today has been hybridized into a different grain altogether. Plus the bread we eat is made with yeast.
The bread that humans used to consume was exclusively fermented. This fast rising yeast nonsense is new (20th century) and we can't digest it well. We make all our own sourdough bread from organic flour. Much healthier.
Bread was cheap and easy to make as opposed to raising meat. Meat was for the rich, bread was for the poor. But still, their bread back then was FAR more nutritious and fuller than it is now. White, fluffy bread was a luxury for the rich, but it lacked nutrition. Denser, more hearty bread was the norm for regular workers and poorer people but at least it filled their stomachs and provided many nutrients.
I actually just watched a documentary on how Victorian bake houses operated, and they said that people would eat mainly only bread throughout the day. Breakfast would be bread alone. Lunch would be bread and a bit of meat if you were lucky. Supper would be bread and some cheese. They also said that people worked so hard back then that they would need to consume 5,000 to 8,000 calories a day to sustain themselves. Crazy right? This is the same for Olympic swimmers like Michael Phelps who eats about 6,000 calories a day because he trains and works so hard.
Bread was a great source of calories to keep you going, and more hearty bread kept you fuller longer. Wheat back then also had far less gluten than today, so again it was much healthier. They cultivated wheat grains with more gluten over the centuries to make the bread fluffier, which is what everyone wanted (too bad they didn't realize how poor the bread would be in comparison to the original wheat).
This post (and the comments) have tons of information about why bread is toxic today in some countries but not others. It should answer your questions, and make you comfortable with bread, if you're in France.
Those people ate for survival. They did 1000% more manual labor than us. They needed to ‘fatten up’ as much as possible.
Exactly, when you read the New testament and see the amount of places they walked to. They were not short distances. How many people today walk 20+ miles a day?
We do nowhere near the amount of exercise they did.
Remember the grains were ground up with mill stones and was much more granular that the fine powders of today. The flour was not washed with bleach to make it white and strip it of all its vitamins like the flours of today.
If you make your own whole grain breads, they are much more nutritious that any package bread you can buy except maybe Ezekiel Bread, which uses sprouted whole grains.
Ever hear of WONDER BREAD? People Wonder why it's called bread😂😂
OmG! My mom used to eat Ezekiel bread. I’m surprised to hear that mentioned here. She often said white bread would ball up in her stomach and not digest. She never had that problem with the Ezekiel bread.
laxative bread is what I call it
😂
it was called wonder bread because they found out how to package it pre-sliced.
Yes, that's what the company called it, and why.. To us, "We Wonder if it is bread". It can be left on the shelf for months without going moldy. We WONDER what is it made from???
Double exactly! Eating bread and sitting on your ass (guilty myself) is obviously not healthy!
Plus their bread was very different from what we're eating today
Yes. All of their food was completely different than what we have today. They prepared everything differently. Our version of bread today is nothing like their bread.
That AND they ate whole grain bread. The wheat germ and all. It wasn’t bleached out and processed flour like we have today. It was from whole wheat. Even today’s whole wheat bread is a different animal than 2000 years ago.
Jesus' bread was likely of a sprouted grain variety containing healthy ages-old yeast. Today's bread is basically baked ground-up wallpaper paste with fake fortifications.
Jesus' bread was HOLY BREAD!!
His cheese was Holy too, Swiss
No one had trouble processing wheat until Monsatan came along with glyphosate, that's what really gives people "gluten" intolerance. Glyphosate (Roundup) causes all sorts of maladies such as birth defects, cancer, DNA damage, learning disorders, neurodegeneration, and more.
The WHO, back when the had at least the pretense of being a legitimate health organization, published a report on gluten intolerance and in it they laid the blame on vegan diets high in fruit. That too much fructose caused a metabolic bottle neck, leading to more of the bread traveling further down the digestive tract before being broken down.
I'm not a doctor, but the report seemed rather compelling, especially when you consider who typically is gluten intolerant.
I would also say thay bread made in the time of Jesus didnt have things like hydrogenated oils, "vitamin enrichment" etc.
Exactly
The bread in Jesus' time was much less refined. It had much more fiber which is undigestible carbs. That, and they literally walked everywhere they wanted to go.
Ancient wheat was generally einkorn, nature's first and oldest wheat. It has been replaced almost everywhere by hybrids and eventually GMOs that are much shorter. Being shorter makes the plant more robust and able to grow in places the taller grasses can't.
The hybrids were a miracle of science that enabled the feeding of vastly more numbers. But like most scientific miracles, there are trade-offs. The most prominent one being that the new wheat is not as healthy, or even downright harmful.
People back then walked everywhere. They needed the source of energy, I am sure also they didn't eat enriched flour. Different needs = different diets.
Just as a little factoid ...
A study was done on a tribe of African hunter/gatherers that walk, on average, several miles a day. Turns out they burn only slightly more calories (less than 10% more) than the typical modern office worker. The body adapts to your activity level and walking is amazingly efficient when it is accustomed to it. Those ancient people were almost certainly burning less calories than your typical modern day American.
A study? That’s like saying statistics say.
Who did the study, who paid for the study, and what were the results that they were looking for?
It sounds like to me they’re trying to talk people into sitting behind a desk all day, and convincing them that walking 7 miles a day would do them no good.
I don’t believe it for a minute!
You can’t tell me that it’s normal, and healthy to sit behind a desk all day long, without any exercise and stay healthy.
Just another life in the cabal!
"It sounds like to me they’re trying to talk people into sitting behind a desk all day, and convincing them that walking 7 miles a day would do them no good."
/facepalm
FFS, no. Obviously walking is good for you. They were merely studying the adaptation of the human body, in particular metabolism. They are literally adapted or accustomed to walking and their body optimizes to that. The body more or less trends to an average caloric consumption regardless of your activity level. obviously working out or strenuous activity seriously increases caloric consumption but the more you do it the better your body gets at it, more efficient which lowers caloric requirements.
Does no one think anymore?
they were also eating only natural grain. No super enriched stuff and I bet their bread wasnt half sugar.
Back in those days people consumed a lot less calories and moved around/walked a LOT more than we do today. Bread is also cheap, very fast and easy to make, and the ingredients are simple and easily accessible by anyone. Plus, the bread made back then was obviously much more organic with much less additives and preservatives. I once watched a video regarding our “Wonder Bread” of today, and it’s technically closer to a cake rather than bread.
Jesus fed the people with barley loaves. Not wheat.
Now how do you know that? Did they have sour dough?
Remember the bread we buy in stores is made from refined flour, even the so-called "whole wheat" breads.
If you look at wheat berries themselves, they can be stored for years with no refrigeration needed and are very nutritious. When you grind those wheat berries into flour, you're getting the wheat germ and the fiber and all of the actual nutrients.
Corporations strip these nutrients out, and even go as far as bleaching even more of the protein out for flour used in things like cakes and cookies. This is why you can buy "unbleached all-purpose" white flour, and why it's labeled as "unbleached." Meanwhile, the manufacturers sell the bleached flour under the name "cake flour" as opposed to "bleached flour."
Here's the description from Bod's Red Mill for their cake flour-
https://www.bobsredmill.com/blog/baking-101/what-is-cake-flour/
You can watch this YouTube video for more information on wheat berries-
https://youtu.be/QrccrOAaHms
The bread He fed them was from barley loaves.
The bread that we get from the stores, have a crap ton of fillers chemicals etc.
The bread people ate back then, we’re probably just three ingredients.
Also people back then had to walk everywhere to get where they wanted to go, they got up early and made their own bread fresh, so that meant that they had to use their muscles and body to make that happen. Then the remainder of the day they had to use physical labour to survive.
I think it’s an apples and oranges example
Jesus fed the people loaves and fishes. Essentially a fish sammich.
Wonder if they had Mayonnaise, Best Foods, of course, or Hellman's.
I thought about the tartar sauce as well.
oh yah, forgot about that. Gotta have tartar sauce! stupid me
It’s not your fault.
The obvious answer is all grains, fruits, vegetables and meats back then were grown without chemicals.
The pharma food industrial complex has genetically altered All Grains. So our guts are not designed to process this genetic shit. So we get gas, cancer, the shits and however each if us reflects eating grain not designed by God. Likely it is to weaken us and make the food fascists and pharma more $.
Maybe it it the wheat that is the issue. There’s some famous book about “wheat belly” about this.
Wheat in this country is GMO and sprayed with pesticides as well as stored in ways that can cause microscopic mold to grow. All I know if I can eat bread in France without issue but avoid it like the plague in the US.
The iron "enrichment" or "fortification" is the main thing. They don't add iron to wheat in France or Italy, but here it's the law. There was a good post about that here, but it's been a while.
Great book, the wheat is completely different and so is the harvesting / milling process.
Bread today is addictive poison that plugs into the opioid receptors of your brain.
Plus the addition of bromine in place of the iodine for stabilizing agent mess up your hormones.
Avoid all "modern" store bread.
If you make your own, germinate the wheat berries, then dry, them mill, then bake with non GMO.
Yah right, I gonna germinate my own wheat berries, mill them......lol. I'll just not eat bread if I have to do all that! I chuckle but I know damn well that modern bread has NO similarity to the bread Jesus fed the 5k. I do know what good bread is and we don't grow it here.
I do, it's not that big of a deal. Of course I germinate most all of the seeds I eat. (Beans) Crazy, the enzymes that are activated with water / warmth converts the starches to a much more healthier digestible kind.
Really it's so easy to do, and so good, store bought taste so bad after you've done this a few times you'll never want that store bought crap again.
I'm sorry I should have indicated I was being sarcastic. /s I don't do it because I'm lazy. period.
They have done things to our current food that makes the bread of today almost NOTHING like the bread of Jesus' day. I recommend eating Ezekiel sprouted bread, if you need a packaged bread. And not too much of it - we do not physically LABOR like they did back then! Carbs are for physical work, so if you are not exercising a lot, cut them down.
Bread was designed to be a meat replacement and to feed the slaves and massives; same as rice and pasta. Why is it that a majority of dishes are mostly plant based with a tiny amount of meat and/or dairy. It's to keep the peasants and slaves fed while giving them tiny amounts of nutrients from meat to keep them going. Meat is the true superfood. It feds our brains, keeps us mentally stable and our bodies strong.
Today’s bread is dogshit. It’s not the same...
Fish and bread were very symbolic of the food Jesus provides for our spirit. Death and decay (2nd Law of Thermodynamics) are unbeatable. Death of the spirit IS beatable :)
Cut out soda and be amazed.
Just did this. No more soda and no more Nutty Bars or Swiss Cake Rolls either. I quit drinking alcohol 10 years ago. When I drank I never ate candy or snack cakes but once I cut out the alcohol sugar my body craved sugar like never before. Hopefully I can kick added sugars as easily as I gave up the sauce. And btw, I could have easily drank Andre the Giant under the table back then.
suggest you try using raw/unfiltered honey, when you're jonesin' for sugar...raw/unfiltered honey has many additional health benefits with a spoonful at nighttime, repairing liver, kidneys, gut issues...lotta good research on bedtime honey...must be raw and unfiltered, processed differently in body from how sugar causes hi/lo blood sugar rollercoaster...learned this from experience, and good luck.
Usually the darker the honey, the better!
Thanks Fren
There is provision to eat only 'unleavened' bread.
Leavened bread uses bacteria from yeast, and creates stomach issues known even then.
The list of natural leavens contained yeast, beer, yogurt and buttermilk.
The Jews were commanded to eat unleavened bread in the observation of the Passover and feast of unleavened bread (Exodus 12:1-15). In fact, no leavening agents were to be found anywhere in their houses during this time (Exodus 12:15).
Unleavened bread became known as 'shewbread' when used in rituals and is now known as flatbread or pita bread.
'Bread' became the symbol for 'sustenance of life' which explains its use as a euphemism for money as well.
This is usually the deeper interpretation when bread is mentioned in the bible. As in all stories in the bible, there is a greater and lesser lesson, so to speak. In this case, the 'greater' lesson is 'Share the Love and it will grow.'
The lesser lesson: Eat crackers or pita bread instead.
Back then bread wasn't genetically modified.
They didn't eat bleached wheat flour packed full of preservatives, fillers and additives. Check out what types of grains they ate and made bread from. Ancient grains were far more nutritious than the stuff pushed as grain products today. They also didn't ripen their wheat and oats with Roundup. Flour bleaching is an oxidation process which uses acidic chemicals to speed the process. Prior to chemical bleaching, flour had to sit around and be exposed to sunlight to lose its yellow color. The process of chemically bleaching flour strips a large portion of the vitamins, minerals and nutrients from flour as well as the natural yellow color of the grain. Most of what we get now days has basically about the same nutrition as Elmer's glue, hence why they have to "fortify" most flour with folic acid and vitamins now days.
Calories in, calories out. And calorie labels lie.
Here's a video from Adam Ragusea that explains the difference between the usual grocery bread and real bread - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3sP2jwG9jc
When I make bread at home, it's nothing like the sliced bread you buy at the store.
Read the ingredients in a bag of bread. The only one I semi trust is orowheat. Minimum ingredients in most of their products. The others are loaded with things most of us can’t pronounce!
Jesus’ bread was not made from GMO grain!
Bread back then was not even the same grain. Wheat today has been hybridized into a different grain altogether. Plus the bread we eat is made with yeast.
What else did He have handy to use to feed them? He didn't have tendies and purple drank...
I was on an anti-wheat kick for a bit but then got into home milling, ancient grains, and that sorta thing.
You can probably do just fine without flour but if you'd like to bring it back a home mill is the way to do it IMO.
The bread that humans used to consume was exclusively fermented. This fast rising yeast nonsense is new (20th century) and we can't digest it well. We make all our own sourdough bread from organic flour. Much healthier.
Bread was cheap and easy to make as opposed to raising meat. Meat was for the rich, bread was for the poor. But still, their bread back then was FAR more nutritious and fuller than it is now. White, fluffy bread was a luxury for the rich, but it lacked nutrition. Denser, more hearty bread was the norm for regular workers and poorer people but at least it filled their stomachs and provided many nutrients.
I actually just watched a documentary on how Victorian bake houses operated, and they said that people would eat mainly only bread throughout the day. Breakfast would be bread alone. Lunch would be bread and a bit of meat if you were lucky. Supper would be bread and some cheese. They also said that people worked so hard back then that they would need to consume 5,000 to 8,000 calories a day to sustain themselves. Crazy right? This is the same for Olympic swimmers like Michael Phelps who eats about 6,000 calories a day because he trains and works so hard.
Bread was a great source of calories to keep you going, and more hearty bread kept you fuller longer. Wheat back then also had far less gluten than today, so again it was much healthier. They cultivated wheat grains with more gluten over the centuries to make the bread fluffier, which is what everyone wanted (too bad they didn't realize how poor the bread would be in comparison to the original wheat).
This post (and the comments) have tons of information about why bread is toxic today in some countries but not others. It should answer your questions, and make you comfortable with bread, if you're in France.
https://greatawakening.win/p/12kFGPO7ph/fat-stores-excess-toxins-to-isol/c/