Gregg Phillips gives a warning tonight, "Get off Telegram. Right now." Brian Cates followed his suggestion already.
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I like how OPs name is "Science Over Compliance".
I agree. Does following (what feels like) a fear baited message count as compliance? What is the reasoning for leaving Telegram, and why can't Greg say it? Or hint at it? Or reference a Q post to tell us? Let's try to figure it out...
He made a follow up post that explains a little more.
What, that China is tracking us? Well, that's sort of a "captain obvious" statement at this point.
They're doing this through every other app on your phone, not just Telegram. So why the focus on Telegram?
He proved it while you were just speculating. And it’s obviously true know because he brought it into the light.
Maybe the tech guy knows something you don’t.
Do you have the proof?
Here you go shill: https://andmagazine.substack.com/p/is-it-possible-the-chinese-really
Asking for evidence is NOT shilling. I appreciate you giving me an article about UOCAVA.
However, how does this link to Telegram alone, and not any other application, or website we give data to?
Why single out Telegram?
Don’t you think Greg knows about other websites or apps? He’s not an idiot. There’s a reason.
Well, Telegram has been acting odd for me lately with constant and unending updating. In addition, I had some $ accts hacked lately so I took Gregg's advice.
Rationale might be found here (something about not trusting Telegram and Americans being targeted by China):
https://truthsocial.com/@greggphillips/posts/109187599680256449
Telegram has been iffy since day 1. Why are we now defending it so vigorously and at the same time ripping down the Patriot who brought us 2000 Mules and the Konnech revelations? This entire issue is one big black pill.
Personally I am wary of whats commonly referred to as social media. I have been since my daughter was on my space nearly 20 years ago and I found my 15 year old baby girl communicating with a 35 year old man. I think its all a cesspool of narcissistic self-aggrandizement and criminal activity. And likely one big honeypot in league with the evil doers.
So I dont get the big deal here. If you want to read the propaganda and lies from fake accounts go ahead. If you want to get rid of Telegram, you are free to do so. But we are making mountains out of molehills here and losing sight of the movements goals.
Reputations aside, its when he mentioned it poisoning people that blew the roof off. Big clams require big sauce. Especially something pertaining to people's safety. I'm not following him blindly, but let's also see his evidence.
Greatly dislike this type of communication, it’s very ambiguous, and all it does is stir up more questions, and provides no answers.
Basically, none of us are anonymous, and if they want something from us, they want to find us, or they want to come after is - they will! Personally I’m not worried about it, and I’m not going to get all caught up in fear mongering. I have a Telegram account but I can’t even tell you the last time I used it because I’m not interested in social media. This is the real only place that I come to.
I’m pretty sure if they want information about us here, they can find it as well.
100% Spot on....Q also told us NOT to retreat from FB, TG, Twitter...(The Battlefield)
Yes. Q4509.
Notice Q doesn't mention Telegram directly.(Q4509)
Retreating is not posting online where people are.
Leaving a platform (With YOUR personal Information). Or Leaving an APP (that is Compromised) is not retreating it is hardening your defenses and protecting yourself.
I would understand etc to mean other Social media "Platforms" of which there are many...TG is a major(popular) one...
Perfect example
And how do you know its compromised??... Because 'someone' tells you it is?
Doesn't matter where you have been...They have all our info without "compromising" a site anyway....don't fool yourself by thinking they don't...Unfortunately
No one on Facebook, for example, is allowed to "do battle". They must color inside the lines or they are removed from "the battlefield". The very first time I was removed for dissent, I notified real-life friends and family of why I would be leaving, so they knew I wasn't "unfriending" them, and set the clock to leave two weeks after. One, of course, said, "You'll be back." I said, "No, I won't. You should leave, too." That was over five years ago. It's not a "battlefield" when you're not permitted to dissent or to be heard when you do.
There are many ways to "Do Battle" brother...You would be surprised to know how much I've 'learned' and info I've gained by observing different groups..."dissent" is not the only way to do battle....
I wasn't going to be used to make an example for others. No one is doing battle on Facebook; they're all 100% prisoners, bound by addiction and the fear of losing their acquaintances who Facebook essentially holds as hostages.
Entirely your choice
That is entirely your opinion and Not the Facts, You are Generalising and putting Everyone in the same box...I personally have approx 20 Friends who are awake as shit on FB...Not FB friends but real actual friends...we pass info onto each other amongst other things...Never assume my man....never assume...
I'm not here to argue with you about it...You have your experiences and I have mine...
There are many ways to "Do Battle" brother...
I was trying to warn my people on Facebook about all of this, Going alllll the way back to 2010, when I got out of military service. Shipmates blocked me for it. "Friends" put my feed on mute. By 2017, when Facebook finally started me down the ban path with a 2 day suspension for dissent, no one was listening anyway. There was no "battle". I warned them about EVERYTHING. They did nothing, and (now) we're living it. I even tried to set up bartering networks for local goods, a decade before "parallel economy" was uttered. No one gave a fuck, or did anything, because Facebook is DESIGNED to make them pooh-pooh any sort of "red pill". We all know this is a fact, today, thanks to whistlblowers.
(May 17, 2021) Don't Use Telegram. Don't Use Telegram. Don't Use Telegram. Don't Use Telegram. Don't Use Telegram. | Luke Smith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBTsUVrCDAQ
A small minority has been telling the retards to stop using Telegram for quite awhile now.
The majority take convenience over security.
Use instead:
Element
Signal
Session
Jami
Jitsi
Briar
And several others here
https://www.privacytools.io/privacy-messaging/
Exactly. It’s like being forced to silently eat at the dinner table while the other side talks shit and throws food at you. Complete bullshit. How are you supposed to fight back? Lowkey memes? Hidden code?
I think I read somewhere about creating endless alt accounts so you’re always able to get the message out. If section 230 was appealed then maybe we could fight back.
"etc"
Er, I think that was Gen. Flynn, no? Or did I miss something?
I'm 99,999% sure it was Q....can't check now....will get back to you within 2 hrs....😁
No rush. I certainly recall Flynn saying this - not to abandon the battlefield - but it's been a while, so....
Edit: looks like you're spot on.
u/#q4509
I stand gratefully corrected!
https://qaggregator.news/?read=4509
Hey hello , I said verbatim on a duplicate post ! Fear is not happening ..we lose if we allow the spirit of fear to take over ! Passing out now but let’s catch up soon ! Love you my sister ,
Isn’t it great to not have to live in fear! All the fear porn and rage porn that are posted all over MSM, and even here sometimes, is so taxing. But I just don’t care. I’m content in knowing that I am following the Lord, and he wins, he is the winner already.. If somebody wants to know something about you, they can find out. So I don’t stress about it anymore. Here I am, come at me Bruh! Lol!
Bruh ! A little Hawaiian flair ;) Tear F E A R is false evidence appearing real! Jesus said fear is a spirit , we live with the spirit of faith over our lives , yeah the last thing I’m gonna do is fear , you can feel fear coming on you , it’ll stop your heart and turn your hair gray and poke the hairs up on your arms! There are giants in the land yes ,, but we are well able to bring them down . I’ll have a Josuah and Caleb attitude ! I want milk and honey , not electric cars and bugs!
He explained in another post that he was driving and couldn't explain. China is targeting people through telegram is why he was saying to get off of it.
Must be a heck of a long drive.
Some say that he's still driving to this day.
Maybe??? https://greatawakening.win/p/15K6SpBLjb/i-think-this-response-was-buried/c/
And yet, Telegram servers are in Russia. And, uncensored. REckon China (CCP) can target folks through any platform pretty much.
Right. That's what Im saying! 🙂
That's why I am asking "why is Greg specifically pointing to Telegram?"
Oh, it's the right question for sure.
But I wonder if Phillips' warning applies to his team, specifically, or folks working directly with them on True The Vote and other things they are doing?
As a blanket recommendation, to pull down what has been a MASSIVE aspect of the Freedom movement and Truth Movement during the last 3 years seems kinda out there extreme to me...
Something like this is what Gregg hinted at, IMO.
Targeting equals what? Still vague
Same question I asked, how is China targeting people on TG? What about Tiktok, we know China is behind that. No warning about it though many already know after our PDJT brought attention to it.
Yeah, IDK, it's would be nice if he explained sooner than later... So much could be done through any platform. Perhaps he knows this. Maybe there is something specific happening or coming?
Thanks for letting me know, but guess what… Anything they wanna know about anybody is on their phone, and anybody can find out if they want to hard enough. I just don’t care anymore. They want us to be fearful, and I’m just not afraid. I’m comfy!
Hang on a second. Does that make us anti-social media??
It means if I’m not here, I’m not interested in being anywhere else. Anything I need to know, will be posted here. It’s your one stop shopping! We are the news!
Anti social media social club
This is where is starts for me. :)
Lol! Yeah back in the day when I would be angry about stuff I would just stomp around the house saying this is how it starts, this is how it starts… Blah blah blah. I just remembered that, and thought to myself it would be a good username for this forum.
Or what? If your phone number is already on there shutting down your account isn't going to protect you in any way it's not like you'll vanish from their database.
Exactly, people are going crazy on TS trying to figure it out.
Maybe embedded spyware, is my guess. I almost never use it (TG) anymore, guess I'll delete it from my phone. Never installed FB or Twitter on my current phone.
A few thoughts.
Telegram has been absolutely critical in the development and growth of the Freedom Movement in Australia and likewise in many places around the world, during 2020 and 2021. The instantaneous nature, the access, and the lack of censorship.
What would have happened during 20/21 if Telegram wasn't available, or if Telegram censored people in the way that the big tech does? Sure, Telegram is like the wildwest: users should practice discernment, critical thinking and wisdom.
But the simple fact is that NO tech platform is invulnerable. If you own an android phone, well, your information is already completely accessible by your government and others.
The only truly secure communication methods is face to face. Backdoors to ALL the tech has been around for a looooong time.
I respect Gregg Phillips to the max; their work is delivering great fruit. But I don't care anything about 'CCP Chinese' tracking me or eavesdropping.
I won't be leaving Telegram without a LOT more evidence that there are real problems that directly outweigh all the benefits of Telegram.
Phillips doesn't need to be 'controlled opposition', but also he doesn't need to be right about everything for his value and work for freedom in the USA to be real. No one is perfect, in case you didn't notice.
Meanwhile, I carry on and keep my ears and eyes open.
Addendum: lots of old timey anons with channels on Tel are also saying NUP, not leaving, not without a LOT more information.
Right there with you fren. Well said. It's the only way I can redpill fam. Wealth of information on there if you know who to follow and use discernment.
Another thing here in the US, is that if someone wanted to find all the Republican voters, they could simply use the public voter roll.
My guess is, pretty soon he (or someone connected) will reveal the direct evidence you are looking for.
Hmm ok done. I never got on cuz they required a working phone #.
Same here.
Yep, I will never subscribe to an app that requires you to dox yourself
Another "interesting" post from GP on TS a few minutes ago:
"It’s the same advise I gave all friends, family, and colleagues. I have zero trust in the TS platform.
If it doesn’t work for you, don’t do it. If I didn’t tell you, down the road you’d be pissed at me and rightly so."
https://truthsocial.com/@greggphillips/posts/109187431813688919
Edit: Above link broken. Msg deleted. Likely he meant "Telegram" rather than "TS". Leaving my comment so what was there can be seen.
"TS" = "Truth Social" not Telegram? The link is broken
Agree - "Telegram" rather than "TS".
GP deleted the post but I'm leaving the copy-paste for info purposes.
This from Brian Cates on TS just now:
Apparently, Telegram only allowed me to end my ACCESS to my channel. It looks like it's nuked on my end, but it's still there.
And so is the chat channel connected to it.
This is shady af.
https://truthsocial.com/users/BrianCates/statuses/109187443523310794
At worst, there's nothing to it and you get back on TG.
I think that Gregg has proven time and again that he's ahead of the curve when it comes to inside baseball. Folks were booing from the cheap seats about The Pit while it was going down. It wasn't until 2 months later when Yu was arrested that we saw that there was meat on the Konnech bone.
Some of them are still booing, because Gregg is over the target.
I don’t get it. Any information they could want they can already get regardless of account deletion.
Makes me wonder if this could be more about getting away from the colossal amount of grifters feeding us bad info and blackpilling people on there.
Was surprised by that as well, I’d like more information 1st.
https://t.me/PepeMatter/12346
As far I'm concerned, I would like to see MORE Patriots on sheep platforms like Titter, Tik Tok, Instagram and Telegram even. If we are more worried about the enemy spying on us rather than red pilling sheep and winning the information war then we've already lost. I will use all platforms and not live my life in fear unless future instructions are given.
Is he warning us against a possible virus that might be sent through the app?
WARNING! GET OFF [insert social media platform here]!!!
Already done.
Never had any. Never will.
Truth Social is the only safe one...
Gregg explains his reason for the post here:
https://truthsocial.com/users/greggphillips/statuses/109187599680256449
I think this response was buried. My telegram recommendation was/is my best advice. I was briefed on the matter an hour before I made the post. I prayed it up and decided my friends here deserved to know. I appreciate for some deleting is a huge decision. It’s your choice.
He then includes a worded graphic which I posted in gab for those who don't have ts here:
https://gab.com/CovfefeKatrina/posts/109187681874260591
I suppose now all we need to complete our understanding is a good definition of "targeting".
Because I can imagine a number of scenarios for that.
If you want to know "What could happen that is so bad?"
Telegram could turn you into a bot and lock you out, then fedpoast like crazy in a co-ordinated way with others. So one minute you are casually poasting tesla-free-energy memes and the next minute you are planning an armed rebellion with 30,000 others: then you end up like the Jan6ers chained to a radiator in a dungeon.
Only man in social media worthy of any trust (but still don't) is Torba who runs Gab.
I only made one account due to the number of post from here that are links to telegram…Shame.
Same here.
Then I got buried under an avalanche of spam calls and texts immediately afterward (they obviously sold my phone number).
I never posted, never really used it much at all... so all I had to do was delete the app from my phone.
I have never had my phone # sold as hard as it was after I signed up for Telegram.
At its peak, it was 4-5 times a day along with shady texts.
I watched one video and quickly realized my mistake. I should have known better.
Have used telegram extensively to link and network with others in my local area, spread and learn information faster and more easily than ANY OTHER available platform.
It's not for everyone, but what platform is? Heck, Some people are STILL using fluffbuk!
Cates swallowing this hook line and sinker reflects upon him poorly. I usually look to him as a stalwart of reason
Yeah, Cates on Telegram has been my go-to for good info the last several months. I'll miss him.
I cannot access Truth Social, and no other platform has the accessibility, non-censorship and reach/speed of telegram.
Telegram servers are in Russia. so...... Russia man bad?
😥😥😥 I need my Brian fix, now! 😥😥😥
Yes, maybe. Or maybe he just trusts Phillips that much and has more context.
But Telegram has been a MASSIVE boon and aid to the Freedom Movements and resistance to the Great Reset agenda worldwide.
this seems far too broad, far too vague a warning to be helpful or useful at this point. UNLESS he targeted it specifically to certain people.
Brian Cates: https://truthsocial.com/users/BrianCates/statuses/109187313736216457
I'm kinda bummed! I really like Telegram but not if it's infiltrated.
This from Brian Cates on TS just now:
Apparently, Telegram only allowed me to end my ACCESS to my channel. It looks like it's nuked on my end, but it's still there.
And so is the chat channel connected to it.
This is shady af.
https://truthsocial.com/users/BrianCates/statuses/109187443523310794
Can someone post a screen cap ? This is the only page on the internet that won't open for me in Canada.
Not good at screen caps so I copied/pasted:
@greggphillips's post:
Gregg Phillips
@greggphillips
· 1h Im going to make an observation that none will heed…for now. But you will.
Get off of telegram.
Right now.
#PatriotGames #EverythingIsAnInfoOp
Why? What are they gonna do? Censor me? Knock on my door? If they're gonna start knocking on doors, that's the end of this grand freedom experiment anyway.
I almost wonder if there is some sort of key logging or screen capture going on if that's possible? Or potentially coming in a forced update or something?
Already is. Everything you do on a cell phone is captured.
Perhaps he found out about some way they can hack your phone/computer via telegram? Or worse, are PLANNING a massive attack/hack via telegram?
Thank you!
Don’t care for Telegram anyway and hardly ever look at it. Be like telling me to stop skydiving. Kek
Has Gregg Phillips been wrong so far? While I also hate this stlye of communication, everything he's ever claimed has come to pass.
Promises --
1 - names of NGOs
2 - 2,500 SHERRIFS ACROSS THE LANDS! making arrests before the midterms!
3 - TERABYTES of drop box footage uploaded to a website for EVERYONE to access
(website created asked for email, then remade to ask for email AND phone #, THEN remade to ask for employer information, address, a whole fucking application - - still has NONE of the 2000 Mules data, according to the VERY few who have access it's stuff that was publicaly available already anyway)
You probably should consider the above before saying "everything he's ever claimed has come to pass" ...
Read this after you do:
https://bryanleon.substack.com/
Not so fast!
While i really thought 2000 mules was a great documentary,
All it took was listening to ONE critic, who pointed out all of the problems with their narrative.
For example, they should have been able to SHOW US at least ONE mule, at TWO different drop-boxes, but for some reason they chose not to.
https://youtu.be/d6Haq0ak0ZU
I want Gregg to be right, BUT ive been burnt too many times.
Nope, not retreating.
I was able to sign out, but I can't see how to delete my account. Anyone know how?
I found a link in the FAQ section.
This is very important for anyone taking this warning seriously.
You must delete your account before removing the app.
Gregg Phillips' latest post about it, indicating Americans are being targeted from China somehow. https://truthsocial.com/users/greggphillips/statuses/109187599680256449
Ok, but so is everything else... That's why I'm trying to figure out "why target Telegram?"
Supposedly Gregg will share more when he can.
Lots going on right now.
Why not just say it? Why play coy?
Because he's driving, as he said? Or because he's currently in a courtroom testifying to a grand jury?? I don't know.
But what I do know is, people here are better than this. Everyone is getting worked up and taking sides with very little to go on.
These are questions to ask him.
Why attack people asking questions?
Not an attack. Consider it constructive criticism. Patriots are jumping to conclusions, picking sides, and embracing division - when they have no idea what is really going on.
People, including big name influencers, are repeating a mistake we have all made too many times. The patriot movement should be above this kind of reactionary behavior. The enemy easily exploits it.
Saying statements like these when people are trying to figure out whats going on is suspect. I see the majority of people here on GAW being amicable. I don't see the division you are proclaiming.
Please, lets not derail the thread and keep the discussion on point.
TG already capitulated to Canada's security agency, id imagine its across the board to. They outright device-ban people who say wrong things cough EquiBit cough
What was Equibit
https://youtu.be/TNCUtTY3CEY
COUGH
Holy cow. So corrupt.
This is all very stupid and suspect imo.
How exactly would getting off of telegram help at all? the platform already has your information... deleting your account won't change that, if the concern is tracking, then you're better off wrecking your cellphone with a hammer, they already have your number... let alone the fact that they can get every single bit of information telegram has on you from almost ANY other social platform you're at.
Also he's doing that very close to midterms, heck it would be extremely good for the evil ones if a bunch of conservatives stopped using a very effective instant messaging platform for communication wouldn't it? one of the few places where information wouldn't be heavily censored...
trump said hes heard great thing about the people on telegram. i trust trump over gregg shillips
Gregg Shillips is part of Flynn Bros. Don’t go on Telegram because they’re being exposed there.
Call the Marshalls Shillips.
Agreed. I'll trust Trump before others on social media. And for those afraid of Telegram because it needs a phone number, use a Google voice number, not your own cell number. Not that hard, people.
Another; Clif High. It seems CCP-CHINA is data mining like corrupt Konnech...
https://www.wivb.com/news/buffalo-supermarket-mass-shooting-tops/ny-ag-report-social-media-companies-played-major-role-in-radicalizing-tops-mass-shooter/ this might have something to do with it
Interesting. I don't belong to any social media. So, I'm already first in-line on this one.
As full disclosure... I have never been/will never be on Telegram. But evidently, Gregg's team has been targeted through Telegram and he thinks that others could be targeted for physical violence. In the end, it up to each individual to ascertain if this information is credible.