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Kyrsten Sinema leaves Democratic Party, registers as independent, cuts fragile margin in US Senate (eu.azcentral.com)
posted 3 years ago by penisse 3 years ago by penisse +370 / -0
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– TSearch 38 points 3 years ago +38 / -0

She’s still going to caucus with the Democrats, so nothing really changes.

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– Buttery 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

It's just a political maneuver. This way she can't be primaried by a Dem challenger in the next election.

As an independent, the D party would have to run a candidate against her in the general election and split the vote, likely getting a GOP candidate elected in the process.

People are reading way too much into this, she's just looking out for her own political interests.

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– mayurasana 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Yep, just another fucking politician doing politician things!

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– TheTroof 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

There's more to it than that. Remember when she was the ONLY democrat that stood and applauded Trump's speech in front of congress? That was much bigger than many realize.

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– letlive 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

2 more weeks

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– WeAreThePlan 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

She hasn't been a diehard, and neither is Manchin.

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– TSearch 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Manchin is kind of like Zelensky, he sees an opportunity to extort Biden for whatever he can get. On the surface it doesn’t look like Sinema is playing that game.

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– makemyday007 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Manchin is terrible, I can’t believe West Virginia legitimately voted him in.

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– WeAreThePlan 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Probably not. All these elections need a second look. The whole thing is a shit show.

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– huntfishpede 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Lol you think an election may have been legitimate!!!

But in all seriousness there is still a chance a good amount of West Virginians think he is still a "blue dog" democrat and believe that still means something.

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– seernewday 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Why Congress Should Reject Manchin’s Permitting Bill and Enact Genuine Reform in 2023

https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/11/30/why-congress-should-reject-manchins-permitting-bill-and-enact-genuine-reform-in-2023/

Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., has proposed a permitting reform bill that is a prime example of what not to do. Instead of focusing on permitting reform, Manchin’s bill proposes to nationalize the electricity grid.

The Manchin bill proposes cosmetic changes that give the impression of reform yet would do little to address numerous obstacles created by the National Environmental Policy Act, which became law in 1970. The bill also would make permitting projects more difficult by expanding some aspects of the Clean Water Act.

The bill would empower the Department of Energy and the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission to designate and approve transmission line projects as “necessary in the national interest,” and to socialize costs in electricity rates across a region—regardless of whether a state uses the electricity. Unsurprisingly, the criteria for a “national interest” designation are so broad that any project enjoying political support could qualify.

It’s a clever, back-door approach allowing the Energy Department and Federal Energy Regulatory Commission to bypass states. By controlling transmission line projects, they could force utility customers to pay for more wind and solar power.

When it comes to the Clean Water Act, the Manchin bill would make federal permitting more difficult in many respects. The Clean Water Act requires permits for discharges of pollutants from point sources (i.e. discrete sources of pollution, such as pipes) into navigable waters. Under the statute, and specifically Section 401, Congress gave states a role in the permitting process to help protect water quality. A permit may be issued only upon a state’s issuing (or waiving) a Section 401 water quality certification. The bill would amend the Clean Water Act, codifying a policy in the Biden administration’s proposed Section 401 rule, to allow states to use the certification process to block projects based on issues totally unrelated to discharges of pollutants. Further, the bill likely would help provide support for the Biden administration’s effort to expand these Section 401 certification reviews to cover water quality effects that are unrelated to navigable waters or point sources. Lawmakers should reject Manchin’s bill and certainly not consider it, or any permitting bill, in the lame-duck session before the new Congress convenes Jan. 3. Policy reforms of such importance shouldn’t be rushed, especially when legislators are least accountable to voters. . Source: dailysignal.com

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– BoomerNuc 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It is optics to keep her seat. She, like rest of Dems are trying to change their spots. Still a lying POS

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– Straight_Talk 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

She is an actress....playing a roll.

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– zanonks2 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

All of AZ is part of the show right now.

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– queef 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

If she was anywhere, it would be next to the fish.

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– jackrotten 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

That beavers eatin Taco Bell

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– Bloggerchick 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Dinner roll? Croissant?

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– MilitaryJustice 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

Nothing-burger.

Sinema will still vote 98% with the Dems, she will still caucus with the Dems, she will still live as openly bisexual, she will still support the LBGTQ agenda and she will continue to be guided by that same evil, Godless world view that is so prevalent in the world today.

This is not a victory for the people of the USA. The Senate will continue to be in Democratic "hands". Until and when this nation turns from wickedness and seeks redemption through Jesus Christ, it will not achieve the greatness that God has for it.

I praise the Lord who sacrificed everything for me (and everyone else) not some crazy bisexual pagan that wants to pander to weak-minded conservatives. She is not one of us.

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– Cozette 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

"She is not one of us".

Who is this " us" you speak of?

Also who is this "Lord" you "praise" and who you claim "sacrificed everything" for YOU but not for lost sheep sinners?

I'm reminded of Christs encounters with pharisees and scribes who served a different "Lord" than He did.

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– MilitaryJustice 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

The us is God-fearing, washed in the blood of Jesus Christ Christians not some pharisee accusing, "who is this Lord", LBGT sympathesizers. God bless you and all of your like-minded downvoters though.

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– 1baldeagle 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Sinema is not one of us. She can be but only if she chooses Jesus and rejects satan. Otherwise she is under the curse of the law. Believers are redeemed from the curse. The entire creation bears witness to this Truth. Everything else is lie. Hence your ignorant use of Pharisee.. Pharisee hate JESUS AND HIS WAY. and still do. You are out of league here neighbor. Repent for the Kingdom of heaven is at hand. Even more so today. Millions and billions of folk are walking around in HOLY GHOST 🔋

Everyone is not a lost sheep. Many are wolves in sheep's clothing. Many are goats. Jesus says that.. The lost HEAR HIS WORDS AND COME TO HIM. Which one are You? Folk using the word Pharisee are usually pagans Trying to distort the WAY of Righteousness. The Bible clearly states the enemies of humanity. Yet they go out of their way to promote these detestable deeds. They will perish in these lies. Satan will laugh at them as he does now. GOD gives everyman freedom of choice. Sad that MOST folk choose the lie.

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– RugerP89 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

>she will still support the LBGTQ agenda and she will continue to be guided by that same evil, Godless world view

How to explain...Politicians live in a different world than we do. The only thing that 'guides' them, are the the blackmail strings they voluntarily hitched to themselves so that they could be risen to power in the first place. Puppets for billionaires, mouthpieces. Actors.

Tell me, does Obama as described below come across anyone as a statesman with 'sincere liberal principles'?

u/#q245


Reconcile "Optics are Very Important" with Sinema changing away from Democrat affiliation. Do you believe optically that looks good for the billionaires which control mostly Democrat politicians? This headline deserves FAR GREATER appreciation than scrutinizing LGBT 'beliefs'. Sinema's strings have been cut, by Patriots.

Translation: A politician is actually able to leave the Democrat Party without fear of their life and the life of their family members. It is no accident this is occurring after the cleansing of MS-13 in El Salvador (reconcile Seth Rich, the example made).

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– penisse [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

No Mary: Thank YOU for the scoop.🤗💐

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– seernewday 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Continue to screw people till he goes to jail? He is uniparty crap

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– seernewday 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I truly wish I could agree... problem is we gave a tremendous amount of second chances after the sacrifice of so many lives in WWll and here we are...

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– rherrell 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Traitors don't get second chances.

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– Imin-theinternet 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I can thinl of a few ppl that dont deserve a second chance

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– Cheesecakecrush 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Well, not everyone, because if you've raped a child...

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– Mcmurdo32 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Manchin's only chance for a continued Senate career is to become Republican. Now, he would likely be a moderate Republican, but I think he is fairly honest about who he is and is more worthy of respect than an outright RINO. He out to just do it.

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– SteveB 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Does this make her a DINO ?

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– JustCrumbThings 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

More like a IINO

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– EliFarQuar 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

She's always been a moderate. I'm sure the Dems having someone follow her into the bathroom awhile back to pressure her to sign a bill she didn't believe in wasn't helpful. Ha. The problem with this is that the machine will make sure she doesn't ever get elected again and then they will choose some crazy MF'r to replace her.

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– Dontstopbelieving 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

She is better than McCain or flake. Doesn’t matter which one she replaced.

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– WeebForTrump 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

That's like saying raped is better than forcible castrated. They're both bad.

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– Dontstopbelieving 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Agreed. One is much worse.

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– EliFarQuar 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

And just like that...I get a text from Ruben Gallegos asking for donations bc Sinema is leaving the dem.party!

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
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– FuckCommies 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

No Refunds.

Gallows for Treason.

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– g8rb81 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Bernie Sanders is an independent too. Just sayin'

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– TakeItBack 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

An independent communist who became rich in public service.....

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– SJBHamilton 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Not entirely sure of motives though...

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– GimmeMemes 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

She'll continue to caucus with the Demonrats, so this doesn't change a damn thing. It's all for optics to fool the sheep.

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– popsiclep3t3 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

She smells like shit

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– summerstormAK 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I wouldn't want to be labelled by either the D's or R's either. Both parties are filled with strong-arming henchmen who care more about their own power and pocketbook than about the American people.

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– Slimeballs 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

We need Manchin and a bunch of others to jump ship.

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– quai24 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Boot club.

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– TakeItBack 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

If the Brunson case is acted upon by SCOTUS, it won't matter that she left the D party for the I bunch. She's one of the 388 named (plus John and Jane Does for good measure) in the case which has been added to the court's emergency docket: https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-380/243739/20221027152243533_20221027-152110-95757954-00007015.pdf

This case provides a path for SCOTUS to take action. It is from one of the people, no lawyers or other actors are involved. Because we now have a lame duck CONgress, they--the justices--are in grave danger of being (1) unconstitutionally term-limited and (2) and the court itself being packed with leftists, if not outright communists. This was the setting in which the federal reserve was unconstitutionally "passed" in 1913 which was/is the vehicle for the slow takeover of our government in the ensuing years.

Consider: If this takes place, all 388 will lose their credentials on the spot. What does that leave us with? No exec or legislative branches......no functioning government. What happens then? Military would HAVE to step in. Either realPOTUS is installed or another REAL, valid election occurs with military in charge....paper ballots, no ballot boxes, no mailed-out ballots, voting in ONE day, no machines, results by end of day. Populating our legislative branch: I am sure that there are provisions for how that would be done.

Interestingly, the clerk at the Supreme Court reached out TWICE to Brunson offering assistance and urging, the second time, that the case be sent absolutely ASAP.

I have seen little discussion on this board about this and find that puzzling.

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– Vindicator63 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

That's a pretty concise analysis. Thanks.

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– TakeItBack 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks for reading and commenting.

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– Tewdryg 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It wouldn't surprise me if Manchin may follow. The Dem leadership lied to him. No matter how many dems abandon their party, we still have Turtle McConnell as Senate leader.

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– Blue-collar745 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Still a pedo

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– 5547 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Always thought she was a republican plant

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– SaltyKarens 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Surprisingly Krysten Sinema applauded Trump at both State of the Unions:

https://rumble.com/v1zspy4-krysten-sinema-applauds-trump-at-both-state-of-the-unions-shes-now-left-the.html

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– 1baldeagle 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

She didn't get on the Biden Plane.

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– SHAVIT_AHPURAS 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

She looks like a porn star

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– WarEagle1776 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

"Independent" is code for politics too radical and extreme for either party.

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– WeebForTrump 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Friendly reminder: NO SIMPING FOR SINEMA

She's only doing this cause she know she did not win her election legitimately the first time and thinks the architecture for her "win" won't be there the next time she up for re-election.

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– Trumpette6646 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Thank God! Manchin should do the same OR switch to republican! That’s his only hope if he wants to win another election!

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– dec3169 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

He would just be another Murkowski, Romney, or Collins if he went Republican.

Manchin is only out for Manchin. He often makes a lot of noise and threatens to vote against some D thing but in the end he always folds. Personally I would love for him to be an ex-senator.

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– weholdthesetruths 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

She’s felt a bit like a tactical DINO to me for a while now.

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– placekicker17 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

If Manchin follows suit, it could make things very interesting.

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– WaraBama 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Yellow dogs?

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– Symko 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

She sees what direction the wind is blowing. Nothing ever changes.

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– Vindicator63 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Malkes me think of moves and counter-moves.

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– Freespeechgirl1983 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

What if other dems flip… would republicans gain the majority?

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– StinkeePinkee 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The new Joe Lieberman...this is a power play for HER...

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