extremely pro-vaccine person on the cusp of realising "long covid" is really vaccine doing its thang.
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The fact this person has never considered the various treatments for long Covid and post Covid Vaccination problems demonstrates perfectly why he is in the unfortunate situation he finds himself in!
There is also the fact he gives Biden the credit for the vaccines, when DJT started the roll out and said the vaccines shouldn't be mandatory.
This may be useful when they find out how bad the vaccines are. Hopefully they will blame Biden for their vaccine injuries!
Let them think Biden was the reason for the vaccines. No problem. We all know Trump was POTUS when they were developed, but that doesn't make him the reason for vaccines, he hinted there were safe treatments which the MSM and 'experts' chastised him for. So he had to make a difficult decision, have Big Harma "warp speed" the vaccines (which we now know was bull shit because they had the vaccines already invented before covid), or keep the country locked down for 6 years, which would have caused the destruction of America.
The cabal is responsible for the vaccines.
Operation Warp Speed was a DOD de-population platform from Day 1. Part/parcel of the plandemic. Anyone shilling for it, or attempting to take credit for it, is brain dead if they ever imagined they wouldn't go down with the (sinking) ship. That you can't see that doesn't say much for your IQ.
Here you are, lamenting the destruction of America IF it were to be "locked down" for 6 years (your words), when we're all presently living through the destruction of America in real time, sans any "lockdown". Clearly, neither you nor your ilk, are the sharpest knives in the drawer.
This is the single most brain dead argument ever promoted. It needs to die, suddenly, as if it were fully vaxxed/boosted.
OWP was a logistical mechanism to distribute medical supplies etc.
It is not what you think it is. It most certainly is NOT part of the DS and their depopulation plan.
It DID save us from the depopulation plan of YEARS long lockdowns to completely destroy the economy and forced "medical" experiments. That would have happened if not for Trump. What else could have been done?
America is in bad shape but it is NOT destroyed, it is resilient because of the People. We will overcome this evil.
Yup. The jabs were released - and were totally optional along with other potential remedies - under PDJT but the mandates and jab insanity occurred - and were pushed - under Buyden.
You might want to check your timeliness. Pretty sure the vaccine wasn't out when Trump was still President.
I take that back. The first vaccine in the US was given December 2020. At first, health care workers were the vast majority of vaccine recipients. It was Late Winter/Early Spring of 2021 when the average Joe were starting to get vaxxed.
https://www.ajmc.com/view/a-timeline-of-covid-19-vaccine-developments-in-2021
Above link is meant to establish time line, not a personal statement on the safety or effectiveness of it.
Trump took credit for getting the shots ready in time, but we now know this was planned ahead of time, and the shot was already developed prior to C19.
The thing that bothers me about it is how much Trump praised the shots. Even after the election was stolen, people were getting boosters, and athletes were dying he still spoke well of them.
He's still speaking well of them. Just last month he was on a call-in with someone and was saying how the vaccines supposedly has saved tens of millions of people.
Yes because the lockdowns would have caused tens of millions of deaths
Nobody would have stayed willingly locked down for years, this never made sense to me. If anything this scenario would have been the precipice, and everyone would have United against the lockdowns. Not that I discredit that whole theory, but nobody where I lived would have just stayed locked down, nobody listened to the initial lockdowns here and I doubt they would have started after years of it.
That's not the context he was using, but ok.
Completely agree with you there. DJT recommended to not mandate the Vaxx and recommended people have access to alternate treatments.
It will be interesting to see how these vaxxtards react when it becomes obvious to them they were sold a pup with the Vaxx.
If they hold Biden responsible, because he introduced the mandates, that will play out nicely.
Most people need to piss on the electric fence for themselves.
The person that down voted you, pissed on the fence.
Lmao. Great post.
Just screams: "i am a faggot" or "I am a bot."
"I believe the vaccines helped Biden defeat Trump"
Smh
Well, dead people do vote Democrat
It's entirely possible the real Joe Biden died quite a few years ago.
That would suggests that Democrats vote for dead people.
Putting the two together; dead people vote Democrat, and Democrats vote for dead people, that implies that dead people voted for a dead person.
Under that light, the whole thing is really quite reasonable.
#DeadPeopleArePeopleToo
It on the cusp on anything with the mental gymnastics demonstrated on that post.
Should harass them with, "You're an anti-vaxxer because you won't get anymore boosters!" comments. See how they like it.
"You are LITERALLY killing Grandma!!!" Reeeeeeeeeeee
"How can you be selfish!!! I can't believe you!!!"
"Trust the science!"
If the Vaccines really worked then why would you care if someone choose to NOT get vaccinated since you would already be covered? I mean if you truly believed they worked!
It only works if everyone else gets it, and only after all the Pfizer execs get their bonuses
It's truly mind-boggling how simple logic escapes these people. They are a threat not only to themselves, but to everyone else around them.
I wrote below.
Friend of mine overheard self righteous liberals talking about being vaxxed. They said they didn't do it for them but for others.
WTF kind of crap is that? I told him I would have said are you taking Singulair to help my asthma?
Such dumb shits, but then again this is freaking Pennsylvania.
Everyone knows they did it for themselves because they were scared shitless.
Oh I agree.
Some people lack an inner voice according to some articles that have been posted here. I gotta go with most of those people being Lefties. That inner voice is what tells us right from wrong, safe, unsafe and etc... Sometimes that inner voice tells us quit being a dumbass.
The NPC theory. I’ve discussed this with select students. It’s making them understand some of their fellow classmates a bit more now.
Funny how some people always want to be an “expert” so they can “help” others.
I'm curious, does anyone on GAW know of a single person with "long covid" symptoms that wasn't jabbed?
I certainly do not.
I don't know anyone.
I know a number of people whose “long Covid” symptoms completely match Lyme and Bartonella, but no doctor who follows Big Pharma will tell them that.
Yeah, I've noticed a good many long covid symptoms match multiple autoimmune disorders, and Lyme, as you mentioned.
So many of the symptoms are so vague and match multiple other diseases it's almost pointless to try to pin them down to one disease.
Fatigue, muscle and joint pain, headaches, etc... it could be any one of a thousand diseases/disorders. (Only slightly hyperbolic there)
So, I am one of them. I got whatever CV is in November of 2019 after a trip to Bora Bora.
Took me 6 months to kinda get over it, but with lingering effects. Brain fog, crap rolling around in my head, extreme fatigue, massive pain in my head.
Didn’t get sick again until August 2021 … almost 2 years later.
Same situation … took forever to get over it. Lost all smell and taste with this round.
Got crud again this past November. Sick for 6 weeks again. Was so bad with the pain in my head, that I was seriously contemplating being done.
Mind you, not jabbed, took IVM multiple times, on zinc, d, c, quercetin, etc etc.
By way of this board, someone recommended FenBen. I was trying it for a different reason, but low and behold, it cleared up ALL of my remaining symptoms almost immediately. Like a freaking miracle.
Which brings me back full circle that whatever CV is, I think it has a parasitic component to it.
All I know is that I suffered for three years and FenBen cleared it all up in 3 days.
Very interesting and thank you for sharing this agsasj. VERY glad to hear that FenBen cleared it up. I'm only mildly familiar with FenBen, are there any documented non-parasitic mechanisms that could have resulted in its effectiveness that you're aware of?
I'm also very curious, what was the input from your doctor(s) during those awful 3 years?
As an aside, you got covid the same month/year that my wife and I did. I guess the three of us were the "lucky" ones. We had no idea what we had at the time of course, it was only months later when my very good Russian-trained endocrinologist got curious/suspicious about covid's real timeline that he was able to get a few antibody tests for me an a couple of his other patients that he suspected having it very early on.
I meant to respond sooner, my apologies! (I own a tax business and it’s that time of year.)
Most of my reading about FenBen has been in relationship to treating cancer. However, the parasitic component keeps popping out at me.
When reading up on how FenBen destabilizes cancer cells, thus allowing those cells to be cleared from your body, here’s the best quote:
“specifically defined as binding to the colchicine-sensitive site of the beta subunit of helminithic (parasite) tubulin thereby disrupting binding of that beta unit with the alpha unit of tubulin which blocks intracellular transport and glucose absorption (Guerini et al., 2019).“
There is a new FenBen sub stack https://fenbendazole.substack.com/
Again about cancer. I sincerely thought I might have a tumor in my brain. As well as I had a dinner plate sized fibroid (non cancerous) removed from me a few years back. Based on the pain in that area and the pain in my head, I was willing to try something new.
I really dislike doctors. Always have. I actually signed up for a “concierge” doctor and paid exorbitant amounts trying to get help and it was a terrible waste of money. Plus, the doctor ended up being a super woke vaccine pusher who refuses to this day to see anything wrong with the narrative.
Yes. I know of two. "Long covid" was a thing before the vaccine was even created. Just because you, personally, don't know of any isn't relevant.
The majority of US adults have been vaccinated. Which is why most cases you hear of long covid involve vaccinated people.
It's just a matter of statistics.
To put it a different way, 99% of car wrecks involve people wearing shoes. Does this mean shoes cause car wrecks? Of course not.
But many people refuse to believe things like this until it happens to them personally. Or someone they care about.
Remember that a good chunk of people here on GAW refused to believe covid was real or any different than the common cold or flu....until they got it themselves or a loved one caught it.
You don't see many Anons insisting Covid isn't real like they did at the beginning of the pandemic.
Which means people should, at the very least, accept the possibility that long covid isn't just vaccine injury under another name. But nope, people believe what they want and scream "shill" at anyone who dares challenge that belief.
“Long Covid” was a thing before COVID-19 was created. We just called it by different names. Now those names are being used to describe vax injury.
Not sure if I'm understanding what you're saying here, but it seems as if you're saying the vaccine isn't really to blame for the symptoms people are seeing, if it was happening before Covid-19 even came out?
I'm saying hypochondriacs have long sought doctor attention and drugs for a bunch of imagined (and real) symptoms that mostly resolve through diet, exercise and healthy choices. Just assume that has been true for a long time and there are always people who will find a reason to explain why they feel bad. Lots and lots of those people.
In 2020, those people started complaining about "long covid" but really, that was just an extension of their 2019 hypochondria.
In 2021 as people started getting injured from the vax, but more deliberately in 2022, the Legacy Media started intentionally conflating vax injury with "long covid" as a misdirection scam. They do not want to talk about vax injury so they just say these are the many side effects of covid that can take years to materialize--GET YOUR VAXXINE!
In short, vax injury is real and killing a ton of people. Covid 19 is real and not killing many people at all. Hospital protocols for covid are deadly, stay away from those places. Hypochondriacs are real and eager to be assigned something to talk about so they can convince all their friends that the reason they cannot work or do anything productive this year is "long covid."
Statistical analysis is a big part of what I do professionally.
"Which means people should, at the very least, accept the possibility that long covid isn't just vaccine injury under another name."
Exactly why I took my informal poll.
I think its an unfortunate effect some people have following any post viral recovery. Like you said, clinically long covid is indistinguishable from many other chronic fatigue like illness. So it could either be those illness or a result of the virus or possibly a result of constant exposure to EMF if your not a virus believer.
From my own layman's perspective i think its a result of the spike protein, whether it came from natural infection or from the vax its a possibility it gets into the adrenal glands, stays their and completely fucks your energy levels. I forget where i read this that the spike has been known to sit there, well i mean where doesnt it go at this point.
The issue i think is, through natural infection you have a much better chance of not having this outcome, it has to get past your mucosal defenses and other immune responses as well as having to work its way through the body the whole time its being fought by antibodies and other defenses. The vax gets direct access to your body and gets a free ride through your circulatory system bypassing mucosal entry and worse still reproduces at a much higher rate in the body, forcing your cells to then produce more of it. So then if it does get to your adrenal's, or brain, or heart its going to start telling those cells to produce the poison too.
It definitely was an issue before the vax but i believe not as much of a likely outcome through natural infection. I know there's lots trying to say it doesn't exist or its a direct result of vaccination. Maybe it doesnt and it literally is just lymes/other chronic fatigue or what i described above.
I think you're on to something here, Kurskar. As you alluded to, the spike is present in the actual virus of course, and the spike protein is a toxin. Yes, the purebloods avoid having their cells become spike protein factories, but we're still coming into contact with that spike protein when we catch covid-19 naturally. For a small percentage of un-jabbed people, that spike protein is going to cause major, major problems. Supposition of course, but I think your line of thinking here makes a ton of sense.
Ah, it seemed to me that the last bit "I certainly have not." was casting doubt, in general. My bad.
Also, I wasn't speaking only of you, specifically, but to everyone who thinks long covid isn't real or is only caused by the vax. Because they seem to be the majority here, on this forum. Or at least the most vocal.
I can't say that I don't have my suspicions as I know many, many people with vax related injuries, including "long covid" and in terms of informal, online viewing, I have yet to see anyone personally claim that they have long covid who are not jabbed.
However, I'm fully aware of the dangers of anecdotal "evidence". The other problem is that on a subject with a dearth of proper scientific discourse, that holds true on the subject of "long covid". There's very little supporting data for its existence. However if you claim to know two of these people, I certainly cannot ignore it.
Can you share any additional details on the two? I want to respect their privacy but this kind of data, anecdotal as it may be, is very important. When did they have covid originally, how long has long covid affected them, what are their symptoms, etc?
One is my niece. Mid 20s. She got covid in September of 2020, has never had the vaccine. She's had problems ever since. Lung issues, extreme fatigue. Occasional headaches, somewhat like migraines. Muscle and joint aches. Non-smoker. Non drinker. Was just normally healthy until getting covid.
The other is my pastor's wife. In her 50s. Never vaxxed. She got covid, I think, January or February last year. Former smoker. Doesn't drink. I don't know as much as much about her health history as I do my niece, but no biggies that I'm aware of (cancer, diabetes, heart disease, etc...). Has lots of lung problems, going to think the smoking didn't help. Also lots of fatigue. The lung problems/fatigue seem to be common. Maybe oxygen supply to blood is lower now? She's had to stop doing much of the church work she was doing before. She was very active before. Tennis and golf, grandmother, and headed up a lot of organizations at church. Doesn't play golf or tennis anymore. She gets lots of unexplained fevers now. Seems to catch every cold that comes around. Perpetual sore throat/laryngitis now.
Ugh, I'm sorry to hear that, ISDN. I'm familiar with the oxygen issues. My wife and I were "lucky" enough to get C19 in early November of 2019 when there was just a bit of chatter about it over in China. We're both used to taking our dogs for 60-90 minute brisk walks on a nightly basis and even a 5 minute walk with them had us breathing heavily. Made me worried we had pneumonia (which almost killed me many years ago) but after a month it finally passed.
Hoping and praying your niece and friend eventually heal.
Thank you for your kind words. I'm glad you and your wife came through it as well as you did. It's so sad to see how much it's devastated so many families.
As an aside, your downvote was not from me.
I dont know anyone personally, but a couple of my friends claimed they each knew tons of people (mostly tech types, liberals) who claimed they got "long covid". Infact they got so scared that they decided to take the first two shots because of this.
Lately, I've been noticing the ones starting to connect the dots are having difficulty realizing and accepting, that the ones they trusted, have betrayed them. Confusion is a fusion of feelings. When I read posts like this, I can see the ping-pong balls bouncing back and forth in their minds.
The truth will set us free. But sometimes at first... it can really suck. But, it's the avenue toward inner peace.
This is where we need to gently steer them towards the right direction. I have noticed that people who wake up, esp to the vaccines, but also everything else in general - tend to be very stressed and worried (rightfully) - but this stress causes them to go back into denial because they dont want to believe the world has no hope.
I notice again and again, mentioning JFK and how his assassination started a bunch of good guys in military to start co-ordinating a way to bring down the evil - it has a huge effect. Suddenly the fear is replaced by curiosity and hope.
100%
Some people get exactly what they deserve and I feel zero pity for them.
It's funny how they only see the light when it's them being personally affected, and then they go all boo-hoo I'm fucked.
This idiot is not on the cusp of anything.
Sadly you might be right. Entertaining nevertheless. Like a blindfolded koala trying to find its way out of a maze that has a big exit it keeps missing.
If they just get one more b∞ster, they'll have this Long Covid beaten for good.
This person isn't even remotely close to getting what the problem is.
The comment reads like a clueless diatribe.
The fact that they don't even question if long covid is really a side effect baffles me.
In the liberal circles this word is considered blasphemous
The name is covered but the title of the post and the sub it's taken from is in clear view. Would be easy to figure out who that is / no point to mask their name
Imagine, even after VERBALLY ACKNOWLEDING that the vaxx indeed is POISON, you still consider this an "us vs them" situation; "I konw there's a lot of antivaxers in this sub that will get a kick out of that." No sir, we are not happy you have been poisoned. No we do not get a kick out of global genocide.
"But yea, I probably won't be getting any more boosters"; This makes you BY DEFINITION an "AnTiVaxXeR"...
Their thinking is so annihilated...
Sir. Please by all means, take another shot.
UP vote for "thang."
Got long covid in his long pork...
https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/FLDOH/bulletins/3499942. I've been trying to get everyone aware from the start. Here's an alert from Florida Department of Health.
Friend of mine overheard self righteous liberals talking about being vaxxed. They said they didn't do it for them but for others.
WTF kind of crap is that? I told him I would have said are you taking Singulair to help my asthma?
Such dumb shits, but then again this is freaking Pennsylvania.
Come on mang, take one more booster. It might do the trick and get rid of a useful idiot.
"useful" -> Not so sure!
I've had long covid, and I'm not vaccinated.
Take antihistamines
Yes! They saved me. I had covid for almost 2 months. Jan/Feb 2022. When I started taking those, I got a lot better. One day I skipped. Wasn't sure if I already took it and thought, "no big deal if I skip a day." It was a big deal. Next day symptoms were bad. Got back on them and got better.
Yep, "long covid" is really allergic reaction to spikes hanging around in your body. It does happen for some people just catching covid, but seems to be far more common for those taking the jabs, simply because of the order of magnitude increase in the spikes from vaccines compared to infection.
There was a SA doctor in Corona investigative committee who explained how he figured this out, really beautiful video, still trying to find it again.
People are needlessly suffering from allergic reaction, because the doctors want to keep them terrorised.
I actually read an article about that doctor. He said even the people that took HCQ, (which I had) on the 8th day, they were worse. Specifically the 8th day. He treated them with antihistamine and they got better. If they missed a day, they got worse. Then I remembered hearing that Benadryl helped some with covid. Plus what I experienced, convinced me that some (incl myself) have an allergy to the spike protein.
It sickens me that the doctors don't address this. I thank God for this board and the valuable information I get from all of you 🐸
Yeah HCQ only works if taken early on. Do you remember the doctor's name?
I found the article. U/ashlanddog posted this originally in that day's, Unleashed...
https://expose-news.com/2022/02/22/covid-illness-is-due-to-an-allergic-reaction/
Thanks fren, Shankara Chetty, thats the name !!
I’m dealing with it right now as well. Are you completely over it or still having problems?
I've been over it for close to a year. I did spend 2 weeks in the hospital with covid pneumonia though. That was back in October of 21. The Ivermectin I took before being admitted probably saved my life, as I was never ventilated. I was so weak when I got out of the hospital I could barely walk up a set of stairs without being winded. I was so exhausted by the end of the day I was pretty much in bed by 6pm every night. We also thought I might have permanent scar tissue damage on my lungs, but I've pretty much made a 100% recovery. It took about 6 months before I started feeling normal again.
Glad to hear that. I can definitely commiserate with all of that. I’m over the hump so to speak with mine but likely have several months before I’m completely back to normal.
I just posted above, but try FenBen. DM me if you want to chat more about it!
Get tested for Lyme Bartonella Babesia and all the other tick infections. Find a LLMD or naturopath or herbalist
Long covid is an allergic reaction to spike proteins and most of the times taking anti-hystamines takes care of it. The mechanism is same whether its the virus or the vaccine, except with vaccine the number of spikes in your body is orders of magnitude largers, and tends to be in all parts of your body, hence the prevalance of "long covid" amongst jabbed and especially boosted.
So how does terrain theory explain the fact that whenever someone in the family comes down with something, the others tend to come down with the same thing. A few months ago our son came down with flu, and the next day or two, we both came down with the same thing. Just the past week he had a really sore throat and the next day we both had the same thing. How does terrain theory explain this?
Also, and viruses and bacteria were not threats, what exactly is our immune system which is specifically designed to tag and bag viruses and bacteria even there for?
Agree, and neither has terrain theory been proven in the same way. Hence this discussion.
This is the point of this exercise. But so far, no one - not a single person who talks about germ theory - has provided a satisfactory explanation of why when one person in the family comes down with flu like symptoms, or sore throat, cough like symptoms, there is a high chance of others catching it a day or two later.
No, we dont use any chemicals inside the house. We didn't use any food that is outside ordinary. No take aways, cooking usual kind of food we always cook. No, it is not food poisoning, I have had that before and it does manifests very differently.
In both cases the only thing common was our son was exposed to cold the day before and was not properly rugged up. As for us, we were fine until a day or two later.
In both cases I will go further and say, it looks like we got infected only after we ate food that he shared. So I am not saying its spreading via air, its probably spreading via saliva, but still the terrain theory does not explain this.
I am open to all answers, as long as they at least explain my own personal observations.
This discussion is not about germ theory so you dont have to keep invoking it. Its about terrain theory, and if you are pushing it, you should be able to defend it, and at the minimum, satisfactorily explain the basic human experience concerning what we call flu. I can see you want to disengage, thats okay. But you will hear the same questions even from the most open minded - especially from the open minded who want to understand the truth.