It's nice to know I fire off a comment after reading OP, then see all the similar comments. I might not be first but good to know my marbles are straight!
“Via reciprocity” in civilian-speak? Is that just the DoE acceptance of the DoD vetting process? Reciprocity usually denotes give-and-take so does this imply that the DoE performs some other function(s) which the DoD can avail itself of? Kind of a cross-department cooperation?
Btw did you ever catch any rats attempting to infiltrate? Is that common or rare?
Rats attempting to infiltrate? If you are asking about spies with clearances then no - I never saw it myself in almost 20 years of clearances. If you are asking about when I was an NRC Nuclear Cyber Inspector, again no. However I did see just this week someone try to infiltrate a Duke plant twice on the same day, including ramming the gate. That usually doesn't end well if the security forces can use their AR-15s. Some states do not allow it though.
Thanks for all the great info. Lots to read there, both links, but on a scan, the name “Scattered Castles” caught my eye. I wonder if there’s any tie-in whatsoever to Q’s Red Castle - Green Castle posts. I’ll have to look at them again with an eye to seeing if they could be related to information classification levels, security clearances, etc.
I met some nuclear power plant inspectors many years ago when I was up in that area looking at homes - Harris plant, if I’m not mistaken, and they were from Alabama.
They were probably actual nuclear inspectors - the ones that look for radiation leaks, corroded pipes, a lot of physical stuff - they are the original nuclear inspectors. I came in when the NRC decided they actually needed to worry about cyber, so they contracted a bunch of us to go out with the regular inspectors but we would inspect anything digital. Mostly computer stuff, but if something had a microchip, or a serial port (or any port that could have digital input) we assessed it. Even night-vision standalone scopes for the AR-15s had serial ports for firmware upgrades. The only other difference between us and the non-cyber inspectors was we all required Q clearances - most of them only required an L with the supervisor getting a Q.
We were all contractors but all of us wore the NRC "uniform" with the polo shirts with the NRC seal, the hardhat with the big NRC seal, and everything else. It was odd that whenever we would put those hats on and walk into a plant people would move out of our way like we were a gang or something. Plants were seriously scared of NRC inspectors because whether it was the original people or us cyber guys either one of us could shut them down and/or fine them. Some plants can lose as much as $1M a day if they are down, and if they got shut down by NRC they stayed down until they fixed the issue and were reinspected. If they didn't pass their cyber inspections they would lose their license to operate until they fixed everything.
I felt bad for the plants because for the cyber stuff we could tell them the violations we found but couldn't tell them why it is a violation or how to fix it. Stupid govt rules. I had one place that I found a violation at, and it was as simple as labeling a specific CD and putting it in a locked cabinet. I couldn't tell them that, and I actually got in trouble for arguing with HQ that not telling the plant what was wrong didn't help anyone and only led to less trust.
Its the third bullet point in the opening post. "Trump still had DoE security clearance related to at least one charged document as recently as July 2023"
Do you read or are you here to not learn anything?
Has anyone ever questioned why the highest security clearence in the nation originates from the Department of Energy?
One could say nuclear secrets, but that's 1945 thinking. Everyone has a nuke now. I could even get you a nuke. I know a guy.
I've heard it said it's because of the UFO free energy technology we got from the paperclip Nazis and elsewhere. I'm not a UFO guy, but Q did say that topic is of the highest classification, so for that reason I'm willing to consider it.
Playing devils advocate, security clearances will stay active til they fall off and not renewed. At least that’s how it was with mine, I still had a clearance even after a left the military. Higher level clearances might have different rules and procedures tho
I'm pretty sure that the enemy made a lot of hay about revoking Trump's security clearance...didn't they? I can't recall if they actually did, or just screeched about it.
You are kind of correct but not completely. When you leave your position your clearance goes inactive. It can be picked up by another office and reactivated but only if it is not expired. If it is expired or even close to expiring, your new place of business will have to do a PR (Periodic Reinvestigation). They generally expire every 5 years.
To have a clearance (active) your business has to host the clearance and do the periodic security briefings while you need that access. When you no longer work there, the clearance goes inactive but it is still on the books. If a new company offers to host the clearance and has the facilities to do it your clearance can be reactivated (if you require that access).
Former presidents still get classified briefings and maintain their clearances to be able to share their experiences with current administrations. Same with certain other positions like CIA director, although they can have theirs taken away like Brennan.
so you only noticed he is gay?...the fact that his husband is 31 years younger than him and looks like he is 15 doesn't seem weird to you at all? or that he came from a 3rd world country where changing an age most likely wouldn't be hard for a man with money
or that Jim has articles all over tgp that state anyone who thinks 9/11 was done by the deep state is crazy
you and the other 3 that down voted me seem pretty okay with all this so that's cool says more about you then me
I don't understand "Defense might include Secret Service as a considered member of prosecution since they have own security apparatus separate from MAL" ????
Based on what I'm reading, it's up to the sitting President what clearance former presidents may have. So if Trump had/has security clearance after leaving office, it's because Biden cleared him.
Information needs to be shared between administrations to continue important work the previous started. Like how GWB helped Obama's administration in the search for bin Laden by sharing info GWB learned during his term.
Wake up ... hiden biden is resident not president and President Trump is the CIC (commander in chief). None of us need NOTHING from this fake hidenbiden.
Sorry, I don't agree with the theory that Trump is secretly still the president/CIC. Because if that was true, it means Trump is fucking up the country big time.
People that believe that theory want to attribute anything good that happens to Trump secretly being president, while simultaneously blaming Biden for the shitty things that happen. You can't have it both ways. You can't have a dual set of Presidents; one who takes the credit for the good and another who takes the blame for the bad. The sitting President/CIC is responsible for ALL that happens on his watch. "The buck stops here", remember?
So if Trump is really the President/CIC right now, that means he's the one responsible for inflation, insecure borders, supply chain issues, vaccine mandates for the military, possibly launching WW3, and getting us involved in Ukraine and supplying them with billions of dollars of taxpayer money, arming them, and sending our troops over there. Add all the other tire fires going on that I've missed that Biden gets blamed for, as well. (Note that I 100% blame Biden for these things. I don't want anyone to think I'm defending him here.)
That's why I don't believe Trump is still really the President/CIC. I refuse to believe that he would fuck this country up like this.
Are you saying this to explain why so many people want to believe he's still secretly the president/CIC? They think it will protect him from going to prison?
Or are you pointing out that if Trump was really still president/CIC, that he wouldn't be on trial right now? If so, I agree with you.
I think many ex-administration people still have security clearance. I think I remember hearing mention of a suggestion of removing Brennan's and/or Clapper's security clearance. Which would seem to indicate they still have security clearance.
Do you know what MAL means?
probably Mar-a-Lago
Oooo mgeesh. 😂😂 whoosh
Thank you :)
Musta ducked...went right over... ;)
It's nice to know I fire off a comment after reading OP, then see all the similar comments. I might not be first but good to know my marbles are straight!
I'd rather have spherical marbles. /sarc
Also for those that do not know - to get a Q clearance they generally use the DoD process to get you a DoD TS, and then grant the Q via reciprocity.
Source - me. I did that.
I assume TS is Top Secret (as in TS Clearance).
“Via reciprocity” in civilian-speak? Is that just the DoE acceptance of the DoD vetting process? Reciprocity usually denotes give-and-take so does this imply that the DoE performs some other function(s) which the DoD can avail itself of? Kind of a cross-department cooperation?
Btw did you ever catch any rats attempting to infiltrate? Is that common or rare?
Correct - TS = Top Secret. You will see TS/SCI a lot when looking at jobs online. The reciprocity is simple. https://www.dni.gov/files/NCSC/documents/Regulations/SEAD-7_BI_ReciprocityU.pdf
This page explains a ton - I was surprised at how good it is... https://clearedjobs.net/security-clearance-faqs
Rats attempting to infiltrate? If you are asking about spies with clearances then no - I never saw it myself in almost 20 years of clearances. If you are asking about when I was an NRC Nuclear Cyber Inspector, again no. However I did see just this week someone try to infiltrate a Duke plant twice on the same day, including ramming the gate. That usually doesn't end well if the security forces can use their AR-15s. Some states do not allow it though.
Thanks for all the great info. Lots to read there, both links, but on a scan, the name “Scattered Castles” caught my eye. I wonder if there’s any tie-in whatsoever to Q’s Red Castle - Green Castle posts. I’ll have to look at them again with an eye to seeing if they could be related to information classification levels, security clearances, etc.
I met some nuclear power plant inspectors many years ago when I was up in that area looking at homes - Harris plant, if I’m not mistaken, and they were from Alabama.
They were probably actual nuclear inspectors - the ones that look for radiation leaks, corroded pipes, a lot of physical stuff - they are the original nuclear inspectors. I came in when the NRC decided they actually needed to worry about cyber, so they contracted a bunch of us to go out with the regular inspectors but we would inspect anything digital. Mostly computer stuff, but if something had a microchip, or a serial port (or any port that could have digital input) we assessed it. Even night-vision standalone scopes for the AR-15s had serial ports for firmware upgrades. The only other difference between us and the non-cyber inspectors was we all required Q clearances - most of them only required an L with the supervisor getting a Q.
We were all contractors but all of us wore the NRC "uniform" with the polo shirts with the NRC seal, the hardhat with the big NRC seal, and everything else. It was odd that whenever we would put those hats on and walk into a plant people would move out of our way like we were a gang or something. Plants were seriously scared of NRC inspectors because whether it was the original people or us cyber guys either one of us could shut them down and/or fine them. Some plants can lose as much as $1M a day if they are down, and if they got shut down by NRC they stayed down until they fixed the issue and were reinspected. If they didn't pass their cyber inspections they would lose their license to operate until they fixed everything.
I felt bad for the plants because for the cyber stuff we could tell them the violations we found but couldn't tell them why it is a violation or how to fix it. Stupid govt rules. I had one place that I found a violation at, and it was as simple as labeling a specific CD and putting it in a locked cabinet. I couldn't tell them that, and I actually got in trouble for arguing with HQ that not telling the plant what was wrong didn't help anyone and only led to less trust.
https://x.com/julie_kelly2/status/1720542464224752002?s=20 sauce Edit I see now ☹️
AND...he STILL has the Football! 🏈
Are you kidding here?
I know a lot of folks were saying this, but I don't know if they were serious.
Not kidding.
Why do you believe that.
I know he flew out of DC while still president. But the codes change all the time. And there is more than one football
It's also super expensive as its main function is a secure communication device. So what would it mean if he kept it?
https://www.energy.gov/nnsa/maintaining-stockpile
DoE.
I'm not sure how this applies
Its the third bullet point in the opening post. "Trump still had DoE security clearance related to at least one charged document as recently as July 2023"
Do you read or are you here to not learn anything?
How does this
And the page you linked to
relate to the myth that Trump kept the nuclear football?
I see no connection.
To make my point clearer. The people who carry the nuclear football do not need DOE clearance. Their clearance is from the Department of Defense
Has anyone ever questioned why the highest security clearence in the nation originates from the Department of Energy?
One could say nuclear secrets, but that's 1945 thinking. Everyone has a nuke now. I could even get you a nuke. I know a guy.
I've heard it said it's because of the UFO free energy technology we got from the paperclip Nazis and elsewhere. I'm not a UFO guy, but Q did say that topic is of the highest classification, so for that reason I'm willing to consider it.
And Q said "consider vastness of space" in a response from an anon asking 'are we alone or !!!!!'.
Cosmology is very telling
A compelling query you do make
China Lake Naval Base in California is the world’s largest UFO base. If anyone cares.
I thought the Pine Gap would be a contender for this.
interesting tip, thank
From the Nazis and probably also from Tesla
So its not 1945 thinking, but 1947 thinking? Quite possible!
Winston?? Is that you? From the Continental Hotel?
I thought it was Trashcan Man from The Stand! 😄
Yes sir, DOE security clearance = Q security clearance. NCSWIC
DoE also has an L clearance. Q = TS while L = Secret.
TS? Truth Social? j/k /s
It's definitely Q clearance. The court documents are explicit about this.
They say one of charged documents required Q clearance.
So this info has come out in unclassified discovery
This meatball of yours, it’s a spicy 🌶️
u/#spicy
Meatball Ron has nothing on OP
Fun Fact: The mathematical symbol for “heat” is Q.
u/#q2830
Especially for thermodynamics.
Playing devils advocate, security clearances will stay active til they fall off and not renewed. At least that’s how it was with mine, I still had a clearance even after a left the military. Higher level clearances might have different rules and procedures tho
I'm pretty sure that the enemy made a lot of hay about revoking Trump's security clearance...didn't they? I can't recall if they actually did, or just screeched about it.
Yes, they yelled about not even giving him the Presidential briefing that ex presidents typically receive.
Do you recall what actually happened? Didn't they actually cut Trump out of the PDB at some point?
Biden removed Trump's security clearance in Feb 2021. But this was not removed.
I think this info is coming out from Trump's lawyers. It seems like they didn't know about this Q clearance until this discovery was provided to them.
My assumption is this was overlooked
Very intersting... and Thanks; I thought they did revoke his security clearance.....
You are kind of correct but not completely. When you leave your position your clearance goes inactive. It can be picked up by another office and reactivated but only if it is not expired. If it is expired or even close to expiring, your new place of business will have to do a PR (Periodic Reinvestigation). They generally expire every 5 years.
To have a clearance (active) your business has to host the clearance and do the periodic security briefings while you need that access. When you no longer work there, the clearance goes inactive but it is still on the books. If a new company offers to host the clearance and has the facilities to do it your clearance can be reactivated (if you require that access).
No. They drop off after you are read off.
Q clearance Patriot. My Fellow Americans.....
This appears to be news from Nov. 1. It's good news and reads very similar to what TGP wrote yesterday or the day before.
I hadn’t hear anything about this. Thanks OP. The DS didn’t pull his clearance? You’d think that woulda been their first move if they were capable.
Maybe they can't because he's CIC ;)
Former presidents still get classified briefings and maintain their clearances to be able to share their experiences with current administrations. Same with certain other positions like CIA director, although they can have theirs taken away like Brennan.
Biden revoked his clearance in Feb 2021.
To me this reads like a screw up and they forgot about DOE.
Whats wromg with tgp? They are a go to
Why - because he is gay? Wow. Bombshell. Lurk more.
Edited - Guess the previous poster isn't going to get to lurk more.
so you only noticed he is gay?...the fact that his husband is 31 years younger than him and looks like he is 15 doesn't seem weird to you at all? or that he came from a 3rd world country where changing an age most likely wouldn't be hard for a man with money
or that Jim has articles all over tgp that state anyone who thinks 9/11 was done by the deep state is crazy
you and the other 3 that down voted me seem pretty okay with all this so that's cool says more about you then me
I don't understand "Defense might include Secret Service as a considered member of prosecution since they have own security apparatus separate from MAL" ????
I’d like clarity on this too.
Sounds like the defense thinks the SS is part of the swap and therefore will treat them as a threat.
Don't all former presidents still get briefings on certain things?
Operative word you use is "get", I think...
Biden does "get" much othere than tongue tied, physically tripped up, & unusually excited by young children.
But, in this case, I doubt he "gets it".
DoE is/has Q clearance. What a coQuincidence.
Based on what I'm reading, it's up to the sitting President what clearance former presidents may have. So if Trump had/has security clearance after leaving office, it's because Biden cleared him.
Information needs to be shared between administrations to continue important work the previous started. Like how GWB helped Obama's administration in the search for bin Laden by sharing info GWB learned during his term.
https://news.clearancejobs.com/2020/11/30/former-presidents-and-eligibility-to-access-classified-information/
Wake up ... hiden biden is resident not president and President Trump is the CIC (commander in chief). None of us need NOTHING from this fake hidenbiden.
Sorry, I don't agree with the theory that Trump is secretly still the president/CIC. Because if that was true, it means Trump is fucking up the country big time.
People that believe that theory want to attribute anything good that happens to Trump secretly being president, while simultaneously blaming Biden for the shitty things that happen. You can't have it both ways. You can't have a dual set of Presidents; one who takes the credit for the good and another who takes the blame for the bad. The sitting President/CIC is responsible for ALL that happens on his watch. "The buck stops here", remember?
So if Trump is really the President/CIC right now, that means he's the one responsible for inflation, insecure borders, supply chain issues, vaccine mandates for the military, possibly launching WW3, and getting us involved in Ukraine and supplying them with billions of dollars of taxpayer money, arming them, and sending our troops over there. Add all the other tire fires going on that I've missed that Biden gets blamed for, as well. (Note that I 100% blame Biden for these things. I don't want anyone to think I'm defending him here.)
That's why I don't believe Trump is still really the President/CIC. I refuse to believe that he would fuck this country up like this.
Actually that is what is happening. It is a giant operation that is mirroring the shadow Presidency that Obama ran to undermine President Trump.
Now the roles are reversed.
So you're saying that Trump is deliberately fucking up the country to undermine Biden?
Also, are you saying that Obama was secretly still the president/CIC during Trump's presidency?
Because that's what it looks like you're saying here.
You also can't prosecute a sitting President.
Ok. I'm not sure what your point is here.
Are you saying this to explain why so many people want to believe he's still secretly the president/CIC? They think it will protect him from going to prison?
Or are you pointing out that if Trump was really still president/CIC, that he wouldn't be on trial right now? If so, I agree with you.
Yes, I'm agreeing. Saying the trials are further evidence against that theory.
I think many ex-administration people still have security clearance. I think I remember hearing mention of a suggestion of removing Brennan's and/or Clapper's security clearance. Which would seem to indicate they still have security clearance.