I dont know what to expect to see happen with this at all. I sure wasnt expecting anything on the first day.
We cooked up some ground beef and chicken livers with some squash and beef broth.i mixed in the fenben and vitamins. She slurped it right up.
My wife said she slept all day.its not unusual for her to sleep all day.shes a lazy mutt.
When i came home,i noticed the rancid smelling breath wasnt bad,could usually smell it across the room. I didnt say anything.out of the blue my wife said "i really cant smell her breath". She was drooling some gross looking stuff. I assume the lump popped and was leaking.
The lump on her face looked like it shrunk. I didnt say anything to my wife. Woke up this morning and wife was all excited cuz the lump shrank and she can open her eye all the way. The lump is literally about half the size it was.
I did not think id be giving an update for atleast a few more days or a week. I dont know if these changes are a good thing caused by 1 dosing or its a bad thing indicating the end is near. Ill dose her again this morning and see what happens.
Wow! Try to give her some ivermectin with the fenbendazole. Virex health carries PetMectin and Petdazole, or you can just use the Tractor Supply ivermectin paste. I pray she does well and recovers fully. Please keep updating us. I think if she is still eating, and the tumor is shrinking, that is a good sign.
The dosage for ivermectin for dogs is way different. I looked it up to see if I could save money by using the horse paste. The amount a dog gets is so small it’s nearly impossible to measure to use the horse paste. An overdose can be toxic to a dog. I would only use ivermectin made for dogs or make sure you understand the dosage.
Do you have any info on it being dangerous at the horse dosage level?
IIRC, a full tube provided almost as much as a single human pill.edit: Been corrected belowI would love to see data on dogs with Ivermectin. Now I am very curious.
That dosage assumption for humans is just wrong.
You want roughly .4 mg/kg of body weight in humans. There are 6,000 mg in a tube of horsey paste. 1.87% is ivermectin. 112 mg ivermectin in that tube.
A common Ivermectin pill I saw is 3mg. So it's like 35 pills. There might be other size pills. I don't know.
If you weigh 200 lbs, that's 90 kg. So you would need 36 mg of ivermectin. That's about 1/3 of a tube.
I am not a doctor, or a vet, or anybody whom you should take any kind of advice from. Don't even believe my response if you ask me the color of the sky. I was just wondering how much horsey paste I would give my horse in Minecraft one day and then I happened to read completely unreliable information about dosing humans in minecraft.
I weigh 200 and take 12MG a week prophylactically, sometimes twice a week if I've been around a lot of sick people. Haven't had more than a mild cold in 2 1/2 years now
That 112 number sounds correct, I must be recalling it incorrectly. I was thinking the pills I saw were 12mg & must have misplaced the decimal.
Thanks for correcting me on that. I was thinking it was 11.2mg
A week of the 112 didn't kill me, but I am going to recalculate & figure out the proper dosage. A tube a day was pricy.
edit: Seems I screwed up using a percent key on my calculator gave me the 11.2 incorrect answer. When multiplying 6000*0.0187 (0.01 is 1% for those who didn't know) it comes up as 112.2 mg of Ivermectin per tube.
I am suprised I didn't OD on that stuff 🤣
Edit 2 - I have a big horse. Seems it was only a double suggested dose for the week. Still I am grateful for this reminder that I need to do my math multiple times, especially when sick. Off by a factor of 10.
You can take 10x the recommended dose and not get sick. I've done 12mg/day for 5 days thinking I was about to get the cold in the household. I was fine in both regards (no symptoms of cold or od).
I think the back of the box tells you that a study showed after two weeks of double the dosage for horses there were no side effect? I would have to verify the info but I’m sure your horsey is fine! 😜
I did it exactly as you described, in Minecraft. Nothing happened negative. At a later time my wife did actually get sick. I fed her horsey piste. Next day she wasn't sick, felt fine.
We both handled the paste well. Nothing to report. For her, she got better. I was never sick. I just tested. Her dose lesser then my 1/3 of the tube. Your math is accurate.
Agreed with this. Often branded as “Duramectin”. Go with a 1/3rd of the tube for the dog, x3 days. Frankly I would keep going for a week or more with it. Fenben + Ivermectin is probably your best shot.
Edit: when this is over, consider feeding the dog only raw meat/organs.
Hello there! I haven’t signed on in awhile, Im more of just a watcher skimmer of the site but wanted to jump on as i seen your post and wanted to chime in. I am also doing this. Our 10 year old husky was diagnosed with anal cancer 4 weeks ago. He has multiple masses that had ruptured. We can’t justify the 10k surgery no matter how many times we have went over it so my husband and I have decided to go this route.
I can’t make his food but I changed brands to something that had very little carbs and only whole grains with no protein or meat byproduct. We went the route of fenben for goats as it was the most cost effective. Turmeric was also added. He just finished the round of antibiotics for the infection that popped up at the beginning of the diagnosis.
I am doing 3 days on 4 days off, we just wrapped up the 4th week.
My observations - the masses actually look so much better while he is on the 3 days. I also seen a crazy improvement after the first day of dosing that my husband said I was crazy for thinking. During the 3 days there is no active bleeding, they look as if they are trying to heal up and shrink. By the 4th day of being off he is actively bleeding again. The pain meds are real strong, I don’t like seeing him that out of it so I only give them to him at night because that seems to be when it’s the most irritated and we wake up with blood all over the place. Depending how this next 4 days off goes I may switch it up and reduce the dosage and do an everyday type of thing. The article that was linked on your last post was actually the one I came across to give me an idea of how to go about this. I reread it and will be adding in some of the vitamin D and MCT oil. I may go the route of pill form as he is real good about taking pills. Mixing things into some canned food has proven to be difficult as he is a diva. Only dog i have ever seen that will sit down with a piece of steak and take bites from it to savor the flavor. I’m literally not even exaggerating here. He has never been one to woof down anything.
Behavior wise he doesn’t seem sick aside from laying around more then he normally does. Doesn’t seem to respond as quickly as he used to and his hind legs seem to be weaker then before. I’m assuming from the pain in his rear?
Our guy is a part of the family. My tough husband always gets caught being a softy with our dude and he was crushed as much as I was after the diagnosis. But logically 10k is just unattainable right now in our current financial climate so we are doing all that we can financially.
I am hopeful that at the very least he is as healthy and as happy as possible through the end. If I can’t extend his life I am hoping that I can give him some comfort. I’m rooting for you and please keep us all update!
Im gonna go with giving it everyday. My vet said it wont hurt her to give it everyday.
The only things i dont have yet are the cbd oil and the turmeric.ill probably get those today or tomorrow.
I understand the money thing. I dont have the money to ho thebtraditional chemo route to hope for another 6 months from her. If i knew it would work and give me a couple more years with her,id sell all my silver and gold today to fix her. But i can afford to spend a couple hundred to try something that may or may not work.
The way i see it is if i do nothing,she dies. If i try something that doesnt work,she dies but atleast i tried something. If it works,AWESOME!! ill tell my vet and maybe i can help save other peoples animals.
I agree...daily dosing for you & u/FemalePatriot until they are clear and then on a regular regimen. Praying for you both! Please keep us updated...🙏
Ill keep updating. I sure wasnt expecting to have an update after 1 day. I was figuring a few days,maybe a week before i started seeing changes.
I've read about people on deaths door that turned around after one dose...keep it up fren!
I think I will go to an every day dose and see what happens.
Our decision was along the same lines. Quality of life is diminished by both treatments suggested anyway so spending that much money to still loose the guy or struggle for the rest of his life just isn’t reasonable. I really am hoping that this has a positive outcome.
Please keep us updated, even if it is just as a response to OP updates.
Yes please even if it doesn't work, these anecdotes are the only way we can get info until the corruption in science is rooted out, or new institutions can be founded.
As a human I took 222mg daily for a year with zero bad side effects. It cleared up my idiopathic hives. Took a break over Christmas and the hives came back, so I'm back to daily dosing. FWIW I had breast cancer diagnosed 2 years ago. Had mastectomy and radical hysterectomy. Otherwise all I take is letrozole and almost done with 2 years of Verzenio (cdk4/6 inhibitor). No sign of cancer in my tumor specific blood tests)
That is great news. Congrats for kicking cancers ass!!!! ❤️ Dosing seems to be all over the place and different depending on the product. Since this isn’t a super popular treatment you kind of have to play around with how you go about it. I figured since there doesn’t seem to be any real negative side effects it wouldn’t hurt to at least try! Thanks for the info!
This is encouraging, fren! But please... get grain free food and add froz peas not canned to food for the chlorophyl.
What dosing are you using for Fenben and ivermectin patriot? and I pray your sweet pup makes it through.
Please keep us posted about your pup. Dose her daily until she is clear.
Agree. Keep this regimen up. Congratulations. Sounds like you saved her!
Not sure its time to get excited yet. Could mean its working or could mean the end is near. I hope its working. We shall see. We made her scrambled eggs last night and she didnt eat them. It is unusual for her to pass up a plate of people food.
Not sure if dogs/animals can get Herx reaction, but keep that in mind too. Feel like shit while it's working, then better after.
Thats kinda what im thinking is why she slept all day. But on the other hand,the vet said when she starts sleeping all the time and stuff leaking or bleeding means its near the end.
Im in uncharted territory here so we shall see.
Offer her some homemade chicken broth, cooked chicken, cooked veggies with a little broth and butter. Fed my dogs that when sick and they loved it. Was the only thing they'd eat.
I went out yesterday and got a bunch of ground beef,chicken livers,squash and beef broth. Im gonna hit the meat store this weekend and see what i can get for trimmings and scraps for her. Have my wife cook up a bunch of stuff that we can freeze and microwave for her.
I would skip the microwave heating. It takes longer but the food value will be preserved.
I have an old girl. My local grocery carries dog bones that have the marrow in them. Once a month I make bone broth, it’s very easy. Boil big pot of water with the bones and let it simmer for 24 hours. Then I freeze it in plastic bags. I make her food bc of her teeth. I started noticing a crazy improvement in her energy.
Maybe not microwave..............I've made my cat's food--raw food diet-- since about 1995. I have never microwaved and never will. As I understand it, it changes the food and not for the better.
Good luck with treating your lovely hound. I am back visiting friends and family in my home City of Liverpool and was driving into the City Centre. Going past the University medical school there was a new building. 9 stories high and a full City block long (i use that measurement so our lovely US friends can get an idea of the size. Cancer research and treatment centre. And normies still think they are interested in finding a cure. Must be a thousand people working in the place.
With all the years and money spent on cancer research,the best they could come up with is radiation poisoning? I call bullshit. Cures dont make money but keeping you sick and dependant on thier "medicines" makes them billions.
As a diabetic that requires insulin to control my sugars for a few decades, I agree.
Correct.
The bastards. It's all about prolonging the treatment and raking in the $$$. Never about the cure.
Our dog had a golfball sized lump on its back. Biopsy said it was cancer. Put it on fenbendazole. It was gone in a week. Kept on fenbendazole dose for 4 months. That was a year ago. Doctor said it shouldn’t have done that. He was baffled.
Fenben is not proven experts say… owner uses fenben on dog and cancer gone, experts baffled. No correlation between fenben and cancer found, more research needed… etc. owner never loses another dog to cancer
As a public service announcement, we had a febendazole discussion here many months ago and some kind soul invited me to a group that discusses its uses:
Welcome to the Fenbendazole Support Group. This community is for those on the Fenbendazole protocol. Share experiences, find information, and know you're not alone. Your story and well-being matter here. Together, we shine the light on recovery. Welcome!
https://t.me/Fenbendazolesupport
Dod you all know about the vet cutting open a tumor and finding that it was stuffed full of actual parasites. I suspect tumor shrinkage on fenben is illustrating what is happening w parasites as part of the actual disease of cancer. I am starting my dog on fenben. I have to get the paste kind. Sorry to make you all repeat yourselves but is it in the tubes measured per 50 lb weight notches same as ivermectin?
They do have it pre packaged. Look for panacur-c. But it also comes in a horse paste just like ivermectin. Not sure on the dosage ut it should say it on the tube or packaging.
It goes of if muscle mass? Is what my research kept coming with. If using the horse paste you would have to give a full tube and then some is my understanding that’s why I went with the goat version. I am by no means a subject matter expert though.
Any chance you would be able to tells us the difference in cost & potency for those?
Does anyone know if ivermectin pills can be stored in the freezer to increase shelf life?
I read something awhile back where a news report said 'Don't throw away your old, unused medicines" as they retain their potency much longer than expected, most still retained 90% of their efficacy even 10 years later!
So, you may not need to employ the freezer, while also considering whether freezing may damage the medication.
You are correct - most drugs retain their potency for a long time. FDA has regulations that supposedly tell manufacturers that the expiration dates have to take into account if the drug still has 90% potency (for most drugs). Unfortunately that means many people discard their old meds that are probably fine, and have to go spend more money for no reason. It's maddening.
There are a few meds that absolutely do NOT last after the expiration date and they are toxic. Tetracycline is one big example - it becomes toxic. Insulin, Nitro, and Epi Pens shouldn't be taken if expired either, but that is because they lose potency quickly and you need your dose. Other issues can pop up if for example you are taking expired antibiotics and they lost some potency. You may have to be on them longer if that happens, but I personally would still use them if SHTF.
One last thing... If your drugs are compounded - the pharmacist made them onsite - I wouldn't ever use them past expiration date. Some say you can shake them and they'll be ok, but I think you are risking your health.
I save any unused meds. You never know when you might need them and not be able to get them.
Yes, I think I'll go with the frig. Thanks.
Someone told me that Ivermectin doesn't go bad, but I keep it in the fridge too.
Ok, thanks.
Yep. I do work for a company that makes supplements. They have to test product over time to ensure efficacy or potency or whatever over time. That correlates to the expiration date.
If you want to make claim that your product is good for 10 years you need to have data proving that to be true. Expiration dates can either be a legit time where the efficacy is trending downward or just when the manufacturer decided to stop collecting data.
In my own personal experience when I've had a rash or some other skin-related ailment that wouldn't go away, I'd go searching through my saved stash of Rx ointments, creams and pills. I never throw any medicine away. I stash just for a future SHTF moment.
These stashed medicines may have been prescribed for one of my kids, my spouse, myself or my elderly parent for some other reason sometimes years earlier and the tube or cream may be partially used or never opened.
Each time, I'd find one that worked and fixed the issue. I'd check the exp. date and be surprised to see that the medicine way past expiration, but still worked. Two particular examples were one was dispensed 7 years ago and the other was 12 years ago, still working fine!
Edit: I want to say in my case I do thorough research on any medications I may intend to use and don't use it willy-nilly like an idiot. Caveat emptor!
I’ve been taking ivermectin for almost 2 years (1 or 2 a week as a precaution) doc said it would keep well after the discard date as long as it’s in a cool dry place. Not sure about freezing. Refrigerator however probably. Hope this helps.
Ok, thanks. I guess frig is safest and will ensure longer shelf life than "cool, dry place" :)
It sounds very positive. It is amazing how fast it starts working. Sometimes seems to kill on contact. I have cleared up (cured?) all sorts of skin anomolies and a couple more serious issues. You can give fenben and ivermectin everyday. get some dog probiotics to help appetite. Die off and fenben/ivermectin may impact digestive biome which may reduce appetite. Lots of fluids and some dog friendly probiotics
LOVE posts like this. Just want to add that the horse paste version of Ivermectin knocked out my brother's Covid within HOURS, and he was worried about going to the hospital due to low oxygen before taking it.
Stuff works!
A friend of mine swears by it. Any time he gets a sniffle or starts feeling grosse,he slurps some horsepaste and good to go the next day.
Lee merrit talks how she believes cancer is microparasites. Hense the efficacy of anti parasitics
Amazing. Thanks for the update.
good luck fern hope for the best
Wow that is awesome! Do you have a good source for fenben?
My vet. Ive got an awesome vet. If its not gonna cause harm he will give me whatever i want.
I talked to him about this. As soon as i said i wanted to ask about fenben he said "theyre using it in humans for cancer but i havent heard that it works.i dont think itll work but it wont hurt to try it.". He gave me a bottle of it and a syringe to measure it with and said "let me know what happens".
Those are the best vets. I've done that with my cattle and horses. Make a phone call and go pick it up. Nice to have those types around.
Good luck with the pupper. I hope the treatment gets you some more time with her.
Damn that's a good vet!
https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=2E87C401-7B6A-11D5-A192-00B0D0204AE5
https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=602A2353-023D-474A-B09B-32B0D067AFE8
You can buy Fenbendazole 222 at Amazon. $69.00 for 120.
That's awesome!
Good job! Never give up! Cheers!
Praise be to God! Keep that doggo fighting!
I was wrong it is daily. I knew this retired vet would have the protocol.
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GO DOG GO!
MANS BEST FRIEND!
If you are using fenen in the tube (for horses at any feed store for livestock) the plunger on the tube is markeif in 50 lb increments with hash marks denoting each 10 pounds in between. Dose for each 10 lbs bur round up. So if your dog weighs 60 lbs you to to 50 mark then 1 bit more to the next little hash mark. For the next dose just add 60 to what the plunger says (60), push in to the 120 mark and that is the next dose amount
As for the first dose, it is very safe, over dosing would probably cause diarrhea. But as you pointed out after apoptosis happens, it has to be emitted one end or the other, so there is that but this is an anti parasitic primarily and it does make for emissions as well. I am no doctor or vet and am not giving advice. Just sharing life on a farm. It has been my experience that this has extremely positive results on parasites as well as cancer in ANY species we have given it to. Again, I am no doctor or vet and not giving medical advice, just sharing my own experiences on the farm. Be brave for your pup, you got.this. Texas
Im using a liquid form that my vet gave me. Im assuming its the goat stuff.
Wow! That sounds like wonderful news to me.
Dear Heavenly Father, Thank you for the healing to start of this dog. May this dog be blessed with continue healing and a very long life with this family. Please bless all your faithful with the full body armor to help fight evil while helping all on earth, whether human or animal. Amen.
Good news, very good news.
Great news.
Thanks for posting.
Man who used it to cure his cancer did 1 dose 1 a month. Omg my dog had the face sore too. Monitor pup closely dont over do. Theres a video on YouTube w the man saying whst he took. I think monthly is correct dosage The man still takes it monthly said he always will . Just to be sure https://youtu.be/HYILnjc_wuY?si=XUXgM1L9ibfwZFhu
This sounds like a very good thing. Praise God! Please give us the updates as often as you can.
How exciting!!! I am so happy for you and your pooch. Give her an extra pet for me! 🐕
I'm just sick that I didn't know my 15 year old yorkie had liver cancer. I fully believe that I could have treated him.
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Thx for sharing fren, keep us updated !
wow PTL
Appreciate the posts. Very eager to see how this goes. Keep it up.
Ivermectin👌 Definitely.
Hoping these are good signs my friend. Please keep us updated!
We haven't been getting as much luck, mainly because we are uncertain of the dosage. We did 222mg packets 3 on 4 off for about 2 weeks then we went to daily 100mg. Her cancer has only grown. Just no solid protocol at this point I guess. She's right at 50lbs.
We do benadryl and pepcid (h1 and h2 blockers), turmeric, CBD, artemisinin and fenben. We also do a low dose steroid
My dog is 87 pounds. Im doing 250mg daily with vitamins E,D3 and C. My vet said i could go 300mg daily if i wanted to. Vitamin e is needed to aid in absorbing the fenben
Im seeing alot of improvements already at day #2. Ill post a new update in the morning.
https://www.prairiedoghall.com/curing-my-dogs-cancer/
So for a 50 lb dog you would need: 250 mg of FebBen per day. You can buy 222 mg capsules on Amazon, 120 for $69.95.
500 mg of 95% Curcumin per day. You can buy 500 mg capsules of 95% curcumin, 120 capsules for $44.99 - and -
15 mg of Cannabidiol per day. There are a bunch of different strengths and types you can buy on Amazon too!
So I seen the fenben I wasn’t confident about the reviews or origins. Are you using this and what do you think of it? It would be the legit easiest way for me to administer. The granular and liquid isn’t an easy task but he takes pills really well. I worked at a vet as a receptionist catch all lol and learned a real clever trick.
FenBen is totally safe. If your dog takes pills then go the pill route. Mine will eat anything if it is stuck in some cream cheese.