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The Supreme Court is Likely to Uphold Presidential Immunity for Donald Trump: Analysis
“After listening to arguments at the Supreme Court, it’s clear the justices will narrowly hold the President of the United States—any president—is immune from criminal prosecution for official (not personal) acts," the Article 3 Project's Legal Analyst @mrddmia said in an official statement.
"Additionally or alternatively, the Court will reaffirm criminal statutes do not apply to the President, unless they are explicit. The Court will remand Jack Smith’s January 6th case to DC Obama Judge Tanya Chutkan for an evidentiary hearing. Her decision is immediately appealable to the DC Circuit, and the Supreme Court could take the case again before trial."
"The Court’s likely holding will also substantially affect Fani Willis’ January 6th case—and may affect Jack Smith’s presidential-records case. And the Supreme Court’s Fischer decision on obstruction will likely destroy two of Jack Smith’s four January 6th charges against Trump. Only 20% of Jack Smith’s January 6th case will remain. The case will not get tried before the election."
“Bottom line: This will become a historic win for President Trump—and the presidency and our country. This is a big step toward undoing the Democrats’ republic-ending lawfare and election interference against President Trump."
👉🏻 https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1783538524257391085?t=ZFePna-V_PrF3kMUEMcoyQ&s=19
A legitimate President needs Presidential immunity to defeat the DS. An illegitimate, selected and installed Resident has no immunity. Fraud vitiates everything. If and when it is proven that someone was illegitimately placed in the Office then they were never the President, they have no immunity for the actions they took while occupying the office.
Awesome point.
Retroactively, one hopes. If Trump benefits from Presidential immunity, and was lawfully elected in 2016, 2020 and 2024, here's hoping that all previously "installed" Presidents (with evidence presented), will lose immunity ANYWAY.
Side note question to you all. I'd say I'm all the way up there on the awakened scale. All family and friends are based, everyone close surrounding me is, which is not a small number. Even though they're all based to a common degree, it's always been me spearheading the way, Shepard to his flock, i'm sure many here know what I'm talking about. While "Biden" got placed and Trump "stepped aside", I vividly remember the disarray here even with us. We took time to go through Q posts and get our heads together even for us, to realize this was actually the plan, the awakening process. SO, now that I've gotten all that out of the way where all can see I know damn well what's going on with this whole puppet administration. The biggest conflict I have with everyone is the subject of this being a puppet administration. I can easily show them the proofs, but they have a hard time believing Trump and white hats still in charge, part of the plan, they're on the runway as expected, cant get to 40K ft. view. I even have money on this since I know the truth lol. u/Tsearch saying "if and when it is proven" provoked" this question, what are all your thoughts on how this plays out? For me, surely it has to get exposed, surely everyone will see clear as day that it was all fraudulent. What do you guys think? No way its a normal election, no way they let this slide under the rug, to me, it all has to get exposed right?
Yes, someday soon this all gets exposed.
The idea President Trump and the white hats are actually in charge of everything going on right now would mean they are responsible for all the damage and misery it is causing. That would make them no better, or different from the DS. It means they are willing to inflict pain and suffering to gain control over us.
What I imagine is that President Trump is President in Exile. Somewhere there is a file with multiple backups, proving the 2020 election was stolen with foreign assistance and that Biden was installed by a foreign power. President Trump walked away to avoid a bloody color revolution that would have enabled the DS to turn the entire U.S. military against their fellow Americans. Or, worse, invite an occupation force under the guise of a U.N. Peacekeeping operation.
Sometime this year irrefutable proof the 2020 election was stolen will be made public. My sense is the white hat preference is post election, after a growing MAGA movement overwhelms the polls and elects President Trump and a commanding MAGA majority to Congress.
It’s all a theory, but I also see a scenario where the proof comes down in a way where SCOTUS recognizes it and declares President Trump was the duly elected President in the 2020 election. This, plus the overwhelming election results, paves the way for everyone to accept President Trump being sworn in on November the 6th and taking immediate control of the U.S. Government. This is necessary to prevent the DS trying to either hang onto power or completely trashing the country in their last days in charge.
Maybe my imagination is running wild here? I don’t know, but I keep saying there is no way President Trump keeps plowing forward against crushing lawfare without the assurance MAGA prevails in this year’s election.
Does your statement remind us of someone who is of Kenyan citizenship?
Somehow, this doesn't feel as if it fits the pattern.
I was expecting the supreme court to deny immunity.
You are missing the picture.
Trump needs immunity for what's to come.
Key pieces have happened in this trial, about specific immunity given to POTUS while they are POTUS but they are not immune after or before their POTUS term.
So...
Having criminals acting with immunity like Obama and Clinton, RIGHT NOW is going to be prosecuted moving forward. Heck, Obama and Hillary are currently handling Biden and using him to push forward their motives and prosecute Trump.
No, they are not. Do you think they'd tell him to stack his cabinet with freak shows? Health administrator an unhealthy overweight tranny. Nuclear official that looks like a freak show ( https://files.catbox.moe/r5kz7e.jpg ) stealing womens luggage. Tranny flashing his fake boobs on the WH lawn. Everything going on is the most absurd shit ever. There's so much insane shit that embarrasses the current "admin", like almost every week. No way this happens without being controlled by someone who wants to make them look retarded.
But they would. The governor of Illinois is a Pritzer - his brother is now his "sister" - they are ALL sick fucks. Why would you think frazzledrip Hillary and hot dog party Obozo would object to the trannies in office? Was probably their idea and not Biden's, and it projects the idea that this is main stream majority, not the tiny minority it actually is.
Oh I agree - But that isnt the story that the rest of the world will hear. They will be told that Biden, Obama and Hillary all orchestrated the overthrowing of the 2020 election at the will of China to install their puppet stooges and that China was in a GIANT campaign to destroy the USA - by means of TicTok and Biden's cabinet they tried to turn the USA into a GAY DISAGRACE to remove it from super power status and turn it into the laughing stock of the world.
This all falls on China in the end - so we can gear up and go to war as a united country against them. - my 2 cents anyways.
Yes, that makes sense.
"Trust the plan." u/#q1264
Me too. The whole "precedence" and everything else.
Organized crime is funny like that. There's no real "central" leadership. Just a bunch of mutually tied together self interests.
Is this a good thing? What about the precedent for going after other Presidents? I thought that was part of the Plan.
That's the beauty of a psyop. You never know what's real. Perhaps the whole idea of trump setting presidence was a psyop to trick the black hats. "Moves and counter moves" and all that jazz
Lifes like a box of psyops, you never know what you're gonna get
Jazz hands!
Ha Ha !
I think it'll get remanded by to Judge Chutkan with some kind of framework as to how immunity is to be applied.
Leslie McAdoo Gordon sums it up in the last post of her live thread.
https://x.com/McAdooGordon/status/1783545932040032413
So, for example, I think ALL 9 of them think that the POTUS simply cannot be prosecuted for some official things. A motion to dismiss such a case should succeed and likely could be appealed promptly. Example: giving a pardon. Also that all 9 agree the POTUS can be prosecuted, (impeachment or not) for purely private conduct. Example: he shoots his brother-in-law.
The three liberal justices are likely to say that the POTUS can be prosecuted for official acts that are outside the "core" functions of the President. "Core" would be things like the pardon, CinC functions, etc. They seem poised to say that the district court should figure that out first in some way.
Four of the conservative justices (Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, and Kavanaugh) appear to be prepared to rule that the POTUS has immunity on the criminal front just as on the civil front as in Fitzgerald, with campaigning being outside the scope of the immunity. They also gave hints that the district court would have to parse out the private from the public in the first instance and would likely allow a prompt appeal of that.
The remaining two conservative justices are a bit harder to read (and Thomas said so little that he could be in this group too, but my instinct tells me he's likely in the other group). Roberts seemed to have problems with both parties' positions. And ACB clearly didn't like the full scope of DJT's position. They look likely to me to go for a limited version of the immunity. Less than DJT's lawyers are asking for (full Fitzgerald type immunity), but they are definitely not going to say there is no immunity, but they don't seem comfortable with immunity only for the "core" functions either.
Remember that the district court ruled and the CofA affirmed that the POTUS has NO "immunity" once he leaves office. Strictly speaking, all 9 of them won't agree with that conceptually; they will find that the POTUS has some kind of protection. But the 3 liberals will call it something other than "immunity." Dreeban called it "an as applied Article II challenge," which they will probably go with.
The conservatives will I think - all 6 - assert that there is a broader protection. There will probably be at least two camps of what the scope is and how it functions procedurally.
So, DJT "wins" the case in the sense that a majority (and probably all the justices) will say that there is "immunity" or something like it for former Presidents and then they send the case back to Judge Chutkan with some kind of framework for applying it to this case.
I predict that the framework will be dictated by the middle - ACB and/or Roberts. They are the swing votes, their formulation will be the key to the other four getting the majority so they will have to compromise on the details.
So, if you don't look at the details and just ask the question who's for DJT and who's for the SC in a general sense, it's 6-3. Six for DJT: Roberts, Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, ACB; 3 for the SC: Kagan, Sotomayor, KBJ.
Good analysis based on the questioning; however there is another possibility. All nine appear to favor some type of presidential immunity and a majority seem to favor immunity for whatever President Trump is accused of. They could unanimously hold that he is not subject to prosecution for the specific offenses charged without addressing the reason for the decision or setting rules for some unknown occurrence in the future. No one can predict what situation might be encountered by a sitting president and what action might be necessary to deal with it. We don't need a rule for everything that might happen.
Getting good..
Imagine a very public trial. Where very real evidence is presented.
Amen
Biden’s many “Official” acts are probably crimes…. This sounds really sus
I hope that the SCOTUS 'completes' their job and mentions out loud that the 'charges' against Trump have NEVER had One Ounce of Proof of a crime. That includes muller, two failed impeachments, the very 'criminal' Jan 6 committee, and the obviously political states charges. NOT ONE speck of proof. How many crimes (treason) is That?
Miscellaneous appendages crossed!
Bill Barr criticized Trump for questioning election results and refused DOJ investigation into the fed election interference. That line of questioning does not help Trump. Trump is trying to set up Holder/Obama, Choo/Bush.
Trump should not rely on clown Billy boy for anything. Billy was covering for all of the crooks in the 3 letter agencies
This kind of surprises me. But it still jives with military being the only way.
There’s no immunity from Treason.
Right, because treason, like many other crimes one might commit, is not an official act.
All that has to happen is for the court to decide a president's actions were for personal gain—like claiming a stolen election was fraudulent—instead of official, and there's no immunity. Barrett was laser focused on getting Trump's atty to admit to several things he's charged with, including challenging the stolen election, that were personal acts and therefore not protected by immunity.
No one who opposes Trump has ever explained what they think Americans SHOULD do if an election is stolen and there's a sea of evidence to prove it including almost 1000 election workers who swore under penalty of perjury that they saw it happen and gave detailed descriptions that supported the sworn affidavits of other poll workers. What should the people do, not protest?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/justice-alito-destroys-jack-smiths-prosecutor-during-trump/
I believe that treason is outside of this ruling and this justice system, which would be for crimes.Treason is an entirely different animal and would be addressed in a military tribunal, unless I am mistaken.
I am certain they need to find a middle ground. Even President Trump's attorney suggested a middle ground. He agreed that taking a bribe in exchange for an ambassadorship would be subject to prosecution after the presidency, because taking a bribe has been adjudicated to not constitute an official act.
The result is likely to be that they send it down to the lower courts to figure out if President Trump's acts constituted official acts or not.
The result is going to be that this gets bogged down in courts for quite a while and will not be resolved before the "election".
I would imagine this ultimately ends the Trump prosecution but leaves the door open for the prosecution of Obama and Biden.
I don't think they will rule that there is unlimited immunity; that would be ridiculous! Hopefully, they rule that certain actions qualify for immunity, but unlimited immunity would mean that Biden, Obama, Bush, and Clinton could never be held accountable for the various crimes they committed while in office.