She was visibly upset this morning and she said she can't trust Trump anymore. What? She said she was watching a Candace Owens video and she says he hasn't done enough to get to the bottom of Charlie Kirk's death. That he didn't push Kash Patel for a deeper investigation. That Trump had some role in it, blah, blah, blah.
I don't watch any of that stuff. I don't watch the news, I don't read newspapers, and I don't watch Candace Owens. I've got nothing against her but she's just too white appropriation for me. Anyway, I told her to calm down the whole thing smells like a replay of Sandy Hook, the Las Vegas Shooting, the Butler assassination attempt. Bad guy, caught, done. Too done, too fast. But not trusting Trump? Honey you need less screen time.
The way Kash is dealing with the Kirk assassination is infuriating.
If you're not critical of Kash at this point, you're just not a critical thinker
So, translation:
If you do not have my viewpoint, you are not a critical thinker.
Yeah, nah. That's the opposite of critical thinking, fren.
Not very much of how we see anything being dealt with is real at this stage.
I know it's all a show.
I believe he's just playing the role of a worthless person on the stage and it's still frustrating to watch.
Ya but how long do you pretend the "actors" are just acting dumb? Trump was surrounded by morons in his first time who tripped him at every opportunity.
isn't the perp in jail? presumably getting interrogated?
what would you rather him do? cashless bail?
How about investigating who else was involved
you skipped the interrogation piece.
but that's fine
I have listened to or watched most of Candace’s podcasts since the assassination of Charlie Kirk. I like her and the shows are interesting, and I am glad that someone is keeping an eye on this. She seems to be on an island by herself concerning this.
I also get the sense that she is too personally close to this case. Her and Charlie have spent a lot of time together over the years, and she gets really emotional about the whole thing. To the point that I think that it might be blurring her judgment. She also could be correct about what she thinks and what her intuition is telling her. I am still in the “I don’t know” stage.
But Candace definitely has an attitude that she is owed information about this case that I don’t think she particularly is. She went off on Donald Trump Jr the other day and said something like “I want Donald Trump Jr to look me in the eye and tell me that he one hundred percent trusts the investigation”. Her attitude of entitlement seems over the top.
I think she has deep personal feelings towards Charlie and she is in a stage of grief. Either that or Trump and Co are colluding with her on some 4D chess. It is fascinating to follow.
just stopped in to say I havent watched any of Candace, but I do think that Charlie Kirks wife is not a very good actor.
Sadly, I really wanted to be in her corner but she's just not very credible. Something is off about her.
And the more that the organised brow-beating about giving her a break is pushed, the more my bullshit detector is going off.
I have no idea what the jig is, but it really feels like there is a heavy psyop being pushed on us.
agree heavily. somethings fishy
I'm in the same boat. I think it is assinine to say Kash isnt doing anything just because he isn't breaking the law, and giving out details on an active investigation.
I'm pissed and want more details too, but that doesn't mean Kash, or anyone else isn't doing anything about it. Why do people get all empassioned and lose their heads, forget 80% is hidden (per Q, hello!)
Throwing away all the acomplishments happening because you are mad about one high profile case is stupid. Pedes need to be smart about this.
He shut down Tulsi's people from investigating foreign involvement. You'd think if the cabinet are all so chummy and cooperative he'd be happy for the help.
Candace has a very strong 'Candace is Important here!' attitude.
A form of entitlement, masquerading as 'truth seeking'. imuo.
imuo = in my unpopular opinion
Aaaaand you're still just attacking character and not addressing the actual evidence and points she's raising, shill
Fuck you!
Proving my point shill
Buddy, the next warning sign is pink or blue hair-good luck!
Your wife is right.
I trust Trump to do the right thing, but there are holes in the official story that are too wide to ignore. Candace is lion hearted in her pursuit of the truth - doing much of the job the FBI can't or is not allowed to do.
I draw the line on Trump. I am not sure why Candace is taking the stance she is, but frankly, I don't think she is utilizing all of the available logic she can for her recent statements. Trump literally cannot do everything as it is right now that she wants him to do.
Military is the only way. We all knew that in 2017!
Any two weeks now....tick tock before the country is literally too far gone.
People who do not get the plan, do not get the plan.
Yes I trust Trump but it is also clear something is very amiss with the investigation into Charlie Kirk's execution.
I think I nipped it in the bud. She's smiling more now.
That's a danger sign, sleep light, with Bear Spray close by. 🤣🤣🤣
After the hair dye then she’ll clip into a boy cut and get the nose ring.
LOL, not my sweetie!!
That is the comment of the day
I disagree wholeheartedly.
I think YOU don't know the half of it.
Candace was a die-hard Trumper. A few things have happened that she's 'noticed', leaving her miffed and disappointed in him. Many of us have seen and noticed the same things. But she's extremely smart and does deep investigation to confirm or refute her worries, whether it be about Trump, Charlie Kirk, or any other subject.
If you have the time, you might go back and watch her podcasts since Charlie was killed and see how she's brought forth evidence, video, testimony and other observations re the Kirk murder. She asked for people to reach out to her and share what they know.
She states that Tyler's family contacted her personally and said that Tyler never confessed nor has ever even been to that University in his life. They say he didn't write those text messages either.
What to think, then? She has solicited videos from the TPUSA crew, videos from attendees and many other bits of evidence. She's scrutinized all of it and brought it forth for all of us to see.
I've watched most of her videos along with a bunch of other podcasters and commenters who are smart, thinking people, or are recreational hunters, EMTs, ammunition experts, nurses, etc., who are all weighing in with their observations and concerns. Nearly all, and I mean ALL, say the official story stinks like 3-day-old fish.
She worked with Charlie as recently at 2024, when she toured with TPUSA. She worked FOR and WITH HIM for SIX YEARS before he was married. She traveled with him, flew on the planes with him, stayed in hotels along with him, (her own room, of course) , worked alongside him, went hiking with him, traded texts and jokes and dreams with him. SHE KNOWS HIM EXTREMELY WELL. She also knows how TPUSA operates and has insider knowledge that we don't.
She's noticed anomalies with the TPUSA crew, how they behaved when he was shot, what they've said about Charlie afterwards, and other things that don't ring true.
She says they lied immediately afterwards, making claims and statements she knows to be untrue. When she publicly refuted them, they called her 'crazy' saying Charlie had 'broken up with her years ago', and that, 'He hadn't spoken to her in years' when in fact, she'd resumed touring with him as recently as 2024!
Charlie was a HUGE fan of Trump and Candace wonders why Trump has not been more interested in the conflicting stories coming out and the possibility that a patsy is being framed and that our 'Best Ally' may have something to do with it.
She feels he should have taken a more PERSONAL INTEREST in getting to the truth for their mutual friend CHARLIE.
And I agree with her 100%.
I think your assessment is very much on the target.
btw, I found that D'Souza's observations here resonate quite strongly with my perceptions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQS4FKH3hDA
Dinesh D'Souza Calls Out Tucker and Candace Owens
Thanks for providing that clip. I don’t want to listen to anything Candace says and am getting less interested in Tucker, too. I hate being manipulated. I pray for discernment to know who is lying to me and that has given me a “gut feeling” about certain people. I trust that 🙏.
I heard someone on a podcast the other day say something that I think is really important, the gist of which was this:
Before, the mainstream media were the gatekeepers. They controlled and filtered what information we could access. But with the expansion of social media, the media sphere has become a wild west; you cannot reply on anyone out there to be gatekeepers. One has to become one's own gatekeeper. (To be responsible) each person has to learn to be their own gatekeeper. re; what information I take in, and what information I reject.
Me too. It's the one thing I detest the most, and I care not if its coming from overt communist propaganda or alt-media inflooencers or 'truth tellers'. Don't try to manipulate me. Be open, objective and reinforce that by transparency in how you operate.
One thing I find interesting is how heavily people downvote when someone they 'like' or 'support' or 'trust in' is criticized or contradicted. Sometimes its useful, but it would be better for all of people stuck to the argument being offered, rather than just down-voting because you expressed an opinion that 'Candace isn't great'.
Really? Was that before or after the 2018 midterms, when she went anti-Trumping because of 'his role' in the result? Was that before or after she trashed Trump and fell for the De Santis psyop sting?
Does she think that he should put his international and national focus on hold, because he's really not got anything more important to focus on, so he should drop everything and make Candace's perspective the important focus?
I mean, like her criticism and ranting against Trump because she went after Macron's <spouse> DJT would not come in and phone Candace and 'stand up for her rights'?
At the very best, she is guilty of extreme myopia. At the worst, narcissistic expansionism. Which one? I don't really know.
She was "publicly deployed" to other side directly from the Zionist camp. This is a classic tactic used repeatedly throughout history. Cast someone out for being a "traitor to the cause" to give them narrative shielding to go infiltrate, lead, and destroy the controlled opposition. People need to stop being retarded and look at who she is married to. She is NOT on our side. She is the female version of Alex Jones AND funded by the same group.
I detest that she makes smarmy remarks about Trump. It turns my stomach. I think it is very classless and damaging to do.
As for her research into the tangled web of deceit surrounding Charlie's death 👍👍
If you actually don't think the federal government is obfuscating the truth in the investigation what have you even been doing here on this site
I never said Trump.
But yes, Trump 2.0 represents the federal government much more than Trump 1.0
We, women, are emotional beings and very reactionary. Alot of times we say things out of anger without thinking and then an hour later we slowly come back to our sanity ..Kek
What about the scars? 😂🤣😁
Took me a min.. lol
My wife knows right were to hit me, right in the EGO! 😮😭😭
Trust no man completely. It is foolish and dangerous to do so.
Anyone with unlimited everything at their disposal, worldwide admiration and power and influence, etc, etc cannot walk away unscathed/changed in some way(s).
More times than not, the person does become skewed and twisted from that once reasonable and predictable person. Some subtly, some grossly. Has happened over and over throughout history.
We are all vunerable, especially when not grounded in Christ and adorned in the armor of God .
NOBODY, except the Boss and specific people involved has any idea what is going on behind closed doors. Remember who said disinfo is necessary some times? I trust Trump and whether the truth is allowed out or not, the end results will be what is best for the USA. We will NOT know or see EVERYTHING .... let's just pray what we do see is worthwhile eh?
Tbh, I’ve been struggling with this as well. I wouldn’t go as far as to say I don’t trust Trump, but his handling of the Charlie Kirk case, Epstein files, and Israel/Gaza has just really turned me off. It is difficult at times to remind myself that there is a plan. But, I don’t think Charlie is even dead, which just makes what Trump/Kash are doing make more sense. It’s just hard at times to ignore the criticisms coming from Candace, and even Tucker, because they’re valid criticisms.
Personally, I am very concerned about what we've observed so far with the investigation into Kirk's death.
But we need to see it play out and we need to remember that DJT cannot do everyone's job. This is on Patel & Bongino, both of whom have at best a very modest amount of my trust. Starting their regime by saying that Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide was not a good start.
I think your wife is right to be concerned, but not trusting the President any longer given what he's done and gone through the past decade seems extreme to me.
That being said, it is disappointing to see how few patriots are putting pressure on Patel & Bongino on X over the Kirk investigation. We need to crank up the heat.
I don't blame her. So many disappointments and questioning WTF is going on.
I'm just sitting back and watching very carefully. Maybe the show really is this good and I'm stupid. Or, maybe we were all deceived.
Either way, he's done a lot of good and a lot of questionable.
Never put your trust in a man. Only Christ. That's all I can say.
I can understand to a point. Its not about trusting Trump but just like 1st term, he was lead down paths by inner circles.
I admit, I expected more transparency. The black hawk hitting a passenger plane seemed off to me. Idr hearing more on it.
The odd obs that were on east shore, he clearly said all would be known. I may have missed it but I remember hearing more on that.
I don't think HE cares to cover up things but his team may make the call more than I would prefer.
He will still go down as the best President in history and no one will ever come close.
I don't doom on him. Things happen when they need to. Where we go one we go all but that doesn't have to equate to if we trust one we trust all. Cause we shouldn't. Trump yes.
Doesn't help for people to make light of this with cheeky pink hair jokes etc. If the reader is a person satisfied with D.C. being content with a scapegoat non-shooter being railroaded and charged with murder of Charlie, then fine, you won't care who else is not bothered by it. But it is total bullshit. Kash Patel stinks like a cowardly rat right now. I love Trump very much. Yet I do NOT like the way the current scenario is being played and I don't like the ass of a genocide-committing country, any country, being coddled or Christians being slaughtered without protection. I mean really. What the ever-lovin' fuck? I am confused, uneasy, and angry. If you aren't, lucky you. Sleep well.
I hate to say it but I agree with her. Things look suspicious and the outcomes are not what I signed up for. None of it seems like real winning
This is probably the biggest problem we have on this board. Truly.
I don't know why Anons are so proud of being voluntarily ignorant. I see something like this every day here. Someone bragging about how they don't read cnn, or watch Fox or whatever other media outlet might be mentioned.
How can you be part of an elite research board and yet be adamant about not knowing what's going on in the world beyond whatever little curated source of info you've made for yourself?
You don't have to agree with what you see, read, or hear when reading the news. It's not infectious. Having so many people who refuse to read/watch/listen to anything other than things that reinforce opinions they already hold is truly going to be our downfall.
How are you going to understand your enemy or know what they're up to if you refuse to pay attention to what they're doing? How are you going to Redpill normies if you have no clue what you're talking about and are incapable of answering questions they're absolutely going to ask you about things you don't even know is going on in the world because you refuse to look at anything that you don't agree with?
Note that I'm using the common "you" in this post to mean everyone, not just the OP. So please don't feel like I'm talking about you specifically in all this u/CMAnon. I'm truly sorry that you're experiencing some conflict with your wife, but burying your head in the sand and insisting your wife do the same is not going to help the situation.
I hope you're actually discussing these things with her as well, and not just avoiding the issue because it makes you uncomfortable.
"I don't know why Anons are so proud of being voluntarily ignorant."
Actually, it's voluntarily choosing to remain sane. A big distinction. The MSM has morphed into full on propaganda. Oh, I could choose to join Groundnews.com and see how every story from right and from left is covering a topic. Bottom line I don't want to spend my day trying to decide who is spinning, lying, crafting a narrative. I can cut through it quickly...it's all become propaganda. Do I align more with one side than that other...of course. But regardless, it's still the opinions of some unknown editor who decides what is written, what is viewed. For every story in the news there are thousands that aren't covered. So, rather than limit my knowledge to what an editor thinks I should know, I'll run through a few pod casts, I'll look at this site, I'll check to see if there's anything earth shattering that's moving the markets that I should look at. What I absolutely won't do is waste my time watching snippets of parsed narratives interspersed with commercial after commercial.
If something really important happens I'll learn of it thru notifications of one type or another. The rest is background noise for people with nothing else to do with their time. There's being informed and then there's being manipulated. Most of what passes for "news" is the latter today. There was a time I used to watch and read as much as possible and found it harder to sleep. I saw problems with blood pressure and stress headaches. Now, I'm much calmer and more rational. At some point I think the label "ignorant" is better suited for those who don't realize for ever 60 second commercial they sit through is a minute off their life. There's about 10 min. of commercials packaged with every 30 minutes of "news". Add up the time friend. Maybe ask yourself if spending that 10 min. in prayer or meditation might actually do you more good. My guess is the answer is yes.
Remind her..that she is watching a movie..!!
Remind your wife that Trump is having to do a massive balancing act to keep people safe while making massive change.
Many things he isn’t getting done disappoints me… But because of the volume of good taking place, I am inclined to believe he has legitimate reasons he doesn’t pursue everything I’d like to see done.
Some things only will get handled later under J D Vance (or similar upcoming president), and some things will only be handled by God himself.
In the short term. If you want to do good for Charlie, we all need to keep talking about it and be more outspoken Christians.
The point of every major news event is whatever ends up being the result.
It's all psyops from both good and bad actors.
CK greatly diminished the credibility and standing of the entire left. They have been exposed as cruel and possibly even evil.
This was the point, and for me - that's all I need to know.
CK also pushed and promoted the young Christian Zionists while being funded by wealthy Zionists...until he didn't.
Her frustration is warranted in my view.
We need arrest!!!
Don't downvote me, but when I was listening to Candace I had the fleeting thought, "what if the bluehairs are right about trump??!!"🤣🤣🤣 how ironic that would be!!
I remember when Candace backed DeSantis.
Yep.
She has NEVER been a 'die-hard Trumper'. Quite the opposite. "I'm on your side" while taking every possible opportunity to denigrate and undermine Trump.
At this point, its hard to not see this as being extremely deliberate. She has the speaking charisma of Obama, and just about the same level of genuineness, from what I can see.
Candace is trying to be a good friend, but she isn’t thinking through this enough. Understandably so, she’s got to be going through it right know with how close her and Charlie were.
Trump has never been one to go against his allies, he will get justice for Charlie. I watched her video earlier and everything she said was basically said without the thought that there is more to this than is publicly available. I know President Trump knows it’s Israel, that’s why he posted the photo with Him and Charlie and the US and Israel flag in the background. That was him sending a message that he knows it was them and that he’s coming for them. He isn’t calling them out publicly yet because doing so will cause them to retaliate by staging some sort of event that we don’t want to happen (as they tend to do).
This is the reason Trump, Don Jr. etc are dodging questions about this, because we are at war. And we can’t show our hand yet. There is so many people in the military working 24/7 to save our country and get justice for Charlie’s assassination. ISRAEL FOR LAST (Q #916). They will fall when everything is in place. NCSWIC. It will be BIBLICAL!
That's the cover story. But if you look at her track record, the 2018 midterms, the Ron De Santis psyop, the JFK thing, the Macron thing, and now this, she has taken every single opportunity to A) put out stuff that wins the confidence of truth seekers and people on 'our' side - I'm fighting for Truth Just like you! - while B) undermining and criticizing Trump at every opportunity.
Again and again and again.
She's very good at what she does, which is why she is so polarizing. Because come people see the BS she is shoveling, (even though its wrapped in pretty ribbons, and enticing packaging) while others succumb to her methodology.
There was another operative who used exactly this tactic, albeit not being anti Trump, but anti all real Trump allies: Lin Wood.
Combine that level of polarization + anti-, distrust, doubting Trump sentiments and you can see what the real direction is here.
And.... there is the takeaway. We can sum up all of the thrust of Candace Owens podcasts to this: You must not trust Trump, because I do not trust Trump.
This is why I have no time for Candace at all. Regardless of her motives and methods and style, the upthrust of her entire work is essentially anti-Trump (working against Trump).
Your wife is a smart woman.
Trump needs to get his eyes on Iowa. Farmers are up in arms from the loss of China purchasing their soybeans, the high cost of tractors and farm equipment secondary to tariffs. He needs a rally or a visit to Iowa.
You need to explain to your wife.That Candace is 36 years old and she is just not seasoned enough in the art of war to understand what is happening.But she is the bravest and the best researcher out there.
unless of course, it is all an act.
I do not buy that for a minute. Not. One. Minute. Perhaps "the most effective and skilled performer our there". That I'd agree with.
<sorry Nana. Just voicing my contrary opinion. Carry on>
Ok. Disagree. But we cool.
Thank you, nana. Best comment (reply) in the thread. It's not only OK, it's good that we can disagree. No one has a perfect angle on anything, and as long as disagreement is done in good faith and in a healthy manner, it generates contrasting perspectives that very often can inform each other.
So, thanks!! !
Absolutely!
She isn’t tucked in a fetal position on your front lawn, screaming and yelling is she?
Keep in mind people, that there are those out there who are trying to divide the MAGA crowd and turn us on President Trump and while I'm not certain Candace is one of them, she is clearly in a state of grief and spouting some pretty awful stuff. IMO we must give it time as there is so much going on right now.
Check out her history. the 2018 midterms... what did she do? The Ron De Santis campaign... what did she do? The JFK, the Macron thing... what did she do?
I personally think she is an extremely good actor, with almost Obama levels of rhetorical skill.
"The Patriots are in Control!" 🤓
What kind of media platform is Candice Owens on?
I watch some on YouTube but mostly listen to audio podcasts that carry her show. I use the iPhone default “Podcast” app.
Youtube.
Was she ever banned? Hmmm....
Candace is doing a good job----causing division in MAGA. Maybe we should wait until the end of this movie. We can divide over this and stop the MAGA movement or we can trust Trump and his administration to reset this nation on Justice for ALL. THAT are the two choices we have. Divide MAGA as many like Candace is paid to do or stick it out to the end. Your choice!
I agree with your wife.
"It's understandable, I wonder maybe there is a wider plan in place that cannot be telegraphed, I like to think it all ends well and we can just enjoy life while it happens."
(chick whispering suggestion)
There is always a problem with accusing people of NOT doing something. Most of us have not done whatever it is so almost anyone could be so accused. The fact that people choose to link the missing act to a particular person may be totally insignificant. It could be just a smear, intentional or otherwise.
Welcome to the information war. 💥🐸