It's already been discovered they knew. About 10 years back NIH said HCQ was effective on coronaviruses. The real question is, what happens when the lab rats start dying and THEN they themselves figure it out.
Bingo. I think the cat's out of the bag now, we have evidence from a thousand experiments that HCQ , Ivermectin, Fendbendazole, Fluvoxamine, Quercetin, monoclonal antibodies, UV light, etc. are safe and effective. That's why this push to get full authorization. Of course the FDA is in on the scam.
They're pushing us to take a deadly or potentially deadly vaccine for a "virus" that has a 99,9% survival rate. What do they think we are, fucking retarded? Suicidal?
Big Pharma, with all this lying and heavy-handedness is going to turn off the American people who are refusing to be buffaloed into taking poison and are finding many ways to protect and treat themselves with neutraceuticals, naturally occurring substances and off label uses of fenbendazol, ivermectin etc. that are cheap, safe and much more effective. Big Pharma will end up with no customers because the vaxxed will experience lots of problems and will start to notice that the unvaxxed have discovered safer ways to stay healthy.
If we can crowdsource (think) a cure for thype 1 diabetes, that would be the sure nail for them.
Large Vitamin D, Quinine & high zinc (like scary high for most, that I counter balance with copper too) seem to have dropped my need for long lasting insulin needs (ie naturally produced sugars in the body) by almost 30%
I am looking at how nitric oxide can help too.
When Cancer, Diabetes & this farce of a pandemic are all able to be reversed with natural/cheap remedies, no one will trust these companies or Government anymore.
I have made the "mistake" of taking the right cinnamon along with insulin and found my blood sugar readings dropping below 70. Presumably, it could work alone-I have read about kids snorting cinnamon and harming themselves. Inconsistent strengths is the issue..
I wouldn’t be so quick to lump monoclonal antibodies in with the safe and effective group. Injecting mouse protein into your bloodstream can have pretty severe side effects for some people.
My own daughter developed “serum sickness” from a monoclonal antibody therapy for her leukemia. It made her absolutely miserable and she died much sooner than she would have without it.
That fact brings up an interesting question. Since it has been reported that the FDA is prepared to give final approval for the Pfizer vaccine, will they have to withdraw the emergency approval for the other two?
Given that Pfizer skipped the animal testing, the 24 month data review and the peer review process that is required for everyone else, and has not been sidestepped before ….
Who knows? The Left is making up the rules as they go along. We are gonna need a lot of rope, and I am a cold hearted bastard that will happily engineer an automatic lever puller
I’m pretty good with arduino and related electronics. I’m sure if we worked together we could do some “Mark Rober squirrel course” engineering to make it pretty fun to watch.
None of these three letter agencies work for the people. They are the creation of the cabal. They don't work with our interest at all, they protect the money making corps. They need to be abolished. Smaller government less corruption.
Well…. I dont know about all of you…. But i started identifying myself as a stallion three weeks ago… and if anyone says otherwise, then they are a biggot….
And probably a faggot too…
I identify as a horse. I can eat this all I want because I am a horse. If they can identify as a fairy, I can fucking well be a horse. Play their game.
I ordered from Valley Vet last last week. I received an email 3 days later telling me they were out of stock. I hung in there and yesterday they emailed me that it has shipped. Neeeeigh!! I mean....woohoo!
Tractor Supply near me had it for sale for way cheap on their site (Like $5.50 each compared to Amazon's $18-20). Downside was, the place was like ten minutes from me but they did not have it on the shelf but offered it for same day delivery for 20 bucks. I bought two delivered to my door the same day cheaper than I would have paid on Amazon, and Amazon wanted me to wait like three weeks to restock, too.
I looked at my local farm store. I was confused because the horse dewormer is fenbendazol but they did have liquid Ivermectin for sheep (the irony). I also noticed a sign the store put up that Ivermectin is not for human use. Bullshit it isn’t. I didn’t know what I was doing, so I panicked and left after a sales associate came up to me to help, with a look like, “hey you don’t look like a farmer”.
I'm a lowly chicken farmer and I don't even wear plaid or boots. No one has ever questioned my Ivermectin or fenben purchases at TS. Just grab what you need and act like you belong there. Pick up some bird seed too, or a dog treat if it makes you more comfortable at the register.
Avoid animal marketed ivermectin that has salicylanilides or closantel in it. There are only 3 manufacturers of all the brands. Bimeda-MTC makes both Durvet Ivermectin and Bimeda Bimectin, which do not contain salicylanilides or closantel. There's an 11 page thread about it all on another site, which has a lot of info.
No need to feel weird about it. Animal owners come in every shape, size, economic level, etc., and they all look different so no one really knows what an animal owner is supposed to look like.
Look at completing a successful shopping trip as taking action to fight back against those who want you ill or dead.
If it works, why stop?
If they were so concerned, and so sure it doesn't work why wouldn't they instead say:
"Some people have been taking too much and poisoning themselves. We are sure this will not help with covid. to prove this, if you have covid, take the required dose (by bodyweight), and then take the same dose 48h later, and then take the same dose a week after your 2nd dose. You will see it doesn't work."
Instead they're flipping out because they know it works. They don't care about safety at all, just pushing the 'jab'.
FTA: The FDA’s job is to carefully evaluate the scientific data on a drug to be sure that it is both safe and effective for a particular use, and then to decide whether or not to approve it.
So, FDA, have you looked at all the VAERS data for the 'vaccine' that has killed/maimed millions and for which you appear ready to give your approval to? You seem pretty selective about your scientific data.
Cut in half, scoop out peanut butter in one of those halves, replace with your Ivermectin dosage. Pop the chocolate and ivermectin half in, chew and follow with the other half of the mini. Wash down with Coke, Dt Dew or beverage of choice. Best way yet to take the stuff.
But I am not an MD, nor am I prescribing this as a cure for anything. But if you decide this is the path you choose; this is the way I prefer to do it
Or squeeze the 2 or 3 clicks out of the syringe onto your finger. Lick it off. Swallow. Wash down with some water. It's not that bad or that complicated.
Ordered mine off Amazon as well.
I doubt either my significant other or myself would have any issues with an illness but you never know or maybe a friend or relative might need some.
What is ironic - the FDA wants to TREAT US like freaking animals by demanding that we be tagged, labeled, jabbed and "managed" like animals. They can EFF themselves.
Upon further rumination (get it?) transit time of the gut is much longer in horses. Things to consider. I just ate half the per pound dose. I've eaten an ocean of sushi, poorly washed greens, and who knows what else. Should be interesting.
One problem I see with ivermectin is the dosing is done by pound, but horses digestive system is much larger relative to it's mass than a human (because they eat grass). I intend to halve the dosage accordingly.
Mike Adam's showed the math. Mg required divided by ivermectin percentage equals mg dose..or something like that. Point being there's a math equation....not just cutting does in half.
Do you have the link for the Mike Adam episode? Anybody? We definitely need to start spreading the information for the correct dosing, otherwise people can get sick/poisoned from incorrect dosing. I’ll try to look it up too and if I figure it out I’ll post it on this thread. Thanks pedes.
They notch the syringe with 50 pound increments and have a stopper you set to make sure the plunger stops at the intended dose. If you can count by 50's the rest of what you need to figure out the dose is on the actual syringe. It was super easy. I had thought it more complicated until i actually had the syringe.
It’s not just body weight, either. Horses have completely different metabolisms because they digest different types of food and are designed to burn way more energy than a human. And the delivery system (the paste itself) has stuff in it that’s great for horses, and was never tested for humans.
Not to mention that it can react dangerously with common medications like blood thinners.
The active ingredient is the same for humans and horses, but it’s way more complicated to figure out the balance between safe and effective than some basic math on the back of a napkin. There is a reason that pharmacists have years of graduate-level chemistry education in order to figure this stuff out.
Nobody is saying they prefer to take horse ivermectin over people ivermectin. The problem is all these assholes with years of graduate level education dont give a fuck about actually helping people and will thus not prescribe the proper treatment. Regular folks then have no choice but to do what they feel they must. Also $200 for Dr. visit and prescription VS $5.00 at tractor supply.
Regardless of the difference in digestive systems. The paste has a certain concentration per lb. Which is 200 mcg per lb. Frontline says if you actively have covid that you need 400 to 600 mcg per kg. So it is a simple math problem to convert it from lb to kg. I am 200 lb and have been taking 500lb worth of past the last 3 days to go in the middle of the recommended dose. I feel 100 times better, my cough is going away which felt like bricks on my chest and couldn't stop deep coughing. If you don't want to waste time with a Skype doc appointment or can't afford the prices it cost me $26 at tractor supply. Which will leave me with excess even at my higher dose.
Are you taking into account the inactive ingredients that are usually found in animal medicine versus human medicine that can react with things (like other medicines) in humans?
That paste itself is designed for horses. It’s designed to interact with their specific body chemistry. They put the medicine in the paste as a delivery mechanism. It’s not just a different way of taking medicine, it has a bunch of stuff in it that was never intended to interact with human biochemistry.
Look, I know I can’t and have no real interest in stopping people from taking horse medicine. It’s a free country. I just don’t think a lot of people here understand biochemistry well enough to even know all the things they need to be accounting for. You don’t know what you don’t know, and the only difference between a medicine and a poison is expertise.
I don’t like the idea of online prescriptions, but at least meds from Frontline are designed for humans and sent by doctors who (I hope) are asking about other meds you’re taking and considering the numerous factors that go into determining a safe dosage.
The ability to do these types of calculations confidently goes way beyond college chemistry, and I say that as someone with a healthy background in college chemistry. I would not trust myself to figure out the safe conversion of horse meds into human meds, because the stuff in horse meds isn’t tested in humans and I have no data to account for those factors whatsoever. I don’t like making up numbers for calculations of things I’m putting into my body.
You are right as far as inactive ingredients go and not being able to account for them. It is still absolutely a risk. For me it was one I was willing take take. I will update how I feel as the week and weeks progress with potential side effects
I have taken it in the past with no ill effect. Also found this…
“ As a prophylactic, the convention is now pretty much to take it monthly. If a person is already feeling sick, the treatment dose is THREE doses, but spaced 48 hours apart. So one dose on Monday, the next on Wednesday, the next on Friday, for example. The 48 hour spacing has to do with the liver’s speed at metabolizing Ivermectin. The 48 hour spacing MAXIMIZES the efficacy of the drug in the body.”
You can avoid the horse paste if you'd like. It's a free country. Quercetin & zinc also work too and thats what we use. There is so many ways to beat this now that the FDA is probably up into the wee hours of the morning trying to keep up with all of this. I say that alone is a good thing. But yea, seeing the inactive ingredients say "hydrogenated castor bean oil" made me not take it and I handed it to the lady down the road who owns horses.
I have heard/read/seen so much anecdotal testimonies all saying "it works", "No problems". If I or someone I know needed it I would not hesitate to take it. I have some paste just in case as well as other cures...just in case.
I don’t know what I should be worried about in horse paste, because the stuff in horse paste was added and mixed with absolutely no thought whatsoever as to how it would affect a person.
That’s my point. I have no data about that paste, because nobody ever predicted that humans would try eating the stuff. Because it was made for horses.
I have no research to look at. No data. Just the knowledge that the paste is full of stuff that was never intended for human consumption.
We know WAY more about what’s in the vaccine than horse paste. I can figure out how the doseage of the ingredients in a vaccine should affect a person. I know how those ingredients will interact with existing meds.
I know stuff about the vaccine because it was mixed and tested for human consumption.
None of that is true of horse paste. And yet, people are comfortable taking a risk with horse paste, and shunning the vaccine.
Shun the vaccine if you want, but eating horse paste to avoid it is sort of like jumping out of a bus on the interstate because you aren’t sure you’ll like the destination. Good luck, but it’s not exactly a choice I understand yet if we’re trying to be scientific about it.
You just stated that you have no way to know what is in the horse paste then reverse course and say you know it is full of stuff that is not intended for human consumption. By your own admission you don’t know if there is anything in there that is NOT fit for human consumption, so still goes back to me thinking you are an advanced shill who is looking to spend FUD foe something that has been working well for many. You don’t want to take it, don’t. You have no idea if there are any harmful substances in there, so why try to vilify it unless you have an agenda?
Speaking of the “vaccine” which it isn’t, but do you think the graphene oxide component of the vax is good for people? Curious to know how that is helping.
The horse paste is, from a human health POV, a mystery vial. It’s no better than eating random debris you find on the street. Maybe it’ll be fine. But nobody has tested it to see if you’ll be fine. Because nobody expected you to eat street garbage.
I prefer not to put things in my body that have never been tested in humans, but to each their own.
I’ve looked into the graphene oxide thing. It’s based off of one lab testing one vial that was labeled as a vaccine. They could not confirm that it actually was, because it arrived by courier service and they don’t know from where.
Nothing in my own research, based off of leads from this board, has come anywhere near proving that graphene oxide is in these vaccines. I don’t accept the validity of a single test on a vial of unknown origin and contents as proof of anything.
If you have stronger proof, I’m interested in reading it.
We know WAY more about what’s in the vaccine than horse paste. I can figure out how the doseage of the ingredients in a vaccine should affect a person. I know how those ingredients will interact with existing meds.
I know stuff about the vaccine because it was mixed and tested for human consumption.
No, it really is that fucking simple. Horse paste isn’t magical or indigestible. The injectable formulation can be used orally, just like medications for humans sometimes are. This is mostly about palatability.
Just don’t be an idiot and drink an entire bottle or eat the entire tube.
I mean, if you’re going to go at this on your own, taking the version of the medication that was actually designed for human digestive systems is much safer.
This being said by an agency that has done nothing but attempt to lead us to slaughter like cattle with an unproven technology and jab. No thanks FDA, I'll take my chances with the horse paste.
My wife wants the vaccine. She has been holding off simply because she knows it could cause some friction between us as I am opposed to it primarily since we are trying to have a kid currently.
This makes me sad and makes me worried that (yes, doomering) we aren’t moving fast enough. I know if there is any shot in hell to get things right and under control it requires patience - but now that it has things affecting my home life it is scary.
She isn’t entirely based, but cautious, but feels the vaccine seems safe enough (even tho we aren’t not “at risk”). I’ve expressed I’m opposed for at least a couple years unless people start dying left and right, simply because I don’t want to be a guinea pig - not because I think it will cause us all to become zombies or it’s some globalist plot to control the population … she still remains where she is on it tho
There are a lot of reputable sources that explain why it’s not safe to take the jab. I’m sure you’ve showed her some, but if not, a good place to start is America’s frontline doctors 12 reasons why you shouldn’t take the vaccine. There are a lot of different reputable sources though, including videos of whistleblowers from the vax companies coming forward—like the inventor of the mRNA vaccine. You just have to do some research and educate her.
Yeah I’ve been thru it all cuz I’m here, but she’s not into a lot of other alternative sources. She was half on board last year that “somethings up” with the world and nation, and she’s heard about Q but is more left leaning so as soon as they started running stories debunking it all as being conspiracy theories from alt right trump supporters she basically has felt it was all a joke.
She’s not a super liberal or anything thankfully, and she does think vaccine should be choice …. So far she isn’t taking it and I hope that continues.
But yes I will try to compile some stuff for her to look at… I’d rather her not get it because she fees she shouldn’t vs not getting it because she’s worried how I’d feel about it.
Wow. One of the suspected consequences of the vaccine is the tagging of placental material with the protein spikes, which makes it a target for the body's immune system. As of 30 July, the VAERS data base had about 1600 miscarriages on record (and this may represent 20% of the true case numbers). There is the possibility of induced sterility. If you are trying to have a child, this could spell disaster for you. Please look into this and let your wife know. (www.openvaers.com/covid-data)
With so many doctors using Ivermectin for COVID prevention/treatment, WHY hasn't anyone at FDA reviewed any data?
"The FDA has not reviewed data to support use of ivermectin in COVID-19 patients to treat or to prevent COVID-19; ..."
Because if they found it worked they'd lose emergency authorization
I wonder what happens when it's discovered they knew about effective treatments and covered it up...
Nuremburg I hope!
It's already been discovered they knew. About 10 years back NIH said HCQ was effective on coronaviruses. The real question is, what happens when the lab rats start dying and THEN they themselves figure it out.
And I think Fauci did a paper in 2005 confirming its effectiveness.
Correct https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-07-22-fauci-15-years-ago-chloroquine-effective-treating-coronavirus.html
Bingo. I think the cat's out of the bag now, we have evidence from a thousand experiments that HCQ , Ivermectin, Fendbendazole, Fluvoxamine, Quercetin, monoclonal antibodies, UV light, etc. are safe and effective. That's why this push to get full authorization. Of course the FDA is in on the scam.
They're pushing us to take a deadly or potentially deadly vaccine for a "virus" that has a 99,9% survival rate. What do they think we are, fucking retarded? Suicidal?
Big Pharma, with all this lying and heavy-handedness is going to turn off the American people who are refusing to be buffaloed into taking poison and are finding many ways to protect and treat themselves with neutraceuticals, naturally occurring substances and off label uses of fenbendazol, ivermectin etc. that are cheap, safe and much more effective. Big Pharma will end up with no customers because the vaxxed will experience lots of problems and will start to notice that the unvaxxed have discovered safer ways to stay healthy.
If we can crowdsource (think) a cure for thype 1 diabetes, that would be the sure nail for them.
Large Vitamin D, Quinine & high zinc (like scary high for most, that I counter balance with copper too) seem to have dropped my need for long lasting insulin needs (ie naturally produced sugars in the body) by almost 30%
I am looking at how nitric oxide can help too.
When Cancer, Diabetes & this farce of a pandemic are all able to be reversed with natural/cheap remedies, no one will trust these companies or Government anymore.
I've read about cinnamon helping diabetics, but dunno for sure.
I have made the "mistake" of taking the right cinnamon along with insulin and found my blood sugar readings dropping below 70. Presumably, it could work alone-I have read about kids snorting cinnamon and harming themselves. Inconsistent strengths is the issue..
I wouldn’t be so quick to lump monoclonal antibodies in with the safe and effective group. Injecting mouse protein into your bloodstream can have pretty severe side effects for some people.
My own daughter developed “serum sickness” from a monoclonal antibody therapy for her leukemia. It made her absolutely miserable and she died much sooner than she would have without it.
I'm sorry for your loss. Safe and effective are relative terms for any treatment.
I’m gue$$ing I know why.
Because you CANNOT get Approved for Emergency Use on a vaccine; if another protocol that is shown to be safe and effective exists
That fact brings up an interesting question. Since it has been reported that the FDA is prepared to give final approval for the Pfizer vaccine, will they have to withdraw the emergency approval for the other two?
Given that Pfizer skipped the animal testing, the 24 month data review and the peer review process that is required for everyone else, and has not been sidestepped before ….
Who knows? The Left is making up the rules as they go along. We are gonna need a lot of rope, and I am a cold hearted bastard that will happily engineer an automatic lever puller
I’m pretty good with arduino and related electronics. I’m sure if we worked together we could do some “Mark Rober squirrel course” engineering to make it pretty fun to watch.
The same reason the NIST did not examine any evidence for explosives on 9/11. It would ruin the narrative they intend to push.
bingo. then realize the same creeps are everywhere in government and you xan understand what trump walked into
FDA: "You're not an animal in this photo, but our colleagues are considering putting the vaccine in your drinking water"
What! Where is the source or is this a shitpost style comment?
Both.
https://greatawakening.win/p/12jwMJgV2W/watch-the-water-came-across-this/c/
Johnheretohelp on gab said it's being seriously discussed: https://gab.com/Johnheretohelp/posts/106789237604248847
Evil knows no bounds.
None of these three letter agencies work for the people. They are the creation of the cabal. They don't work with our interest at all, they protect the money making corps. They need to be abolished. Smaller government less corruption.
FDA can't tell me what I identity as.
Exactly! I can be a darn furry and take whatever animal meds I good and well please. I’m a Shetland pony and I need my wormer!
Well…. I dont know about all of you…. But i started identifying myself as a stallion three weeks ago… and if anyone says otherwise, then they are a biggot…. And probably a faggot too…
I identify as a horse. I can eat this all I want because I am a horse. If they can identify as a fairy, I can fucking well be a horse. Play their game.
I'm a horse with papers. My vaccine passport is in my saddle pocket.
Which reminds me, I need to run up to Tractor Supply or the Farmer Co-Op and get a few more syringes of Ivermectin.
How are supplies? I've heard feed stores are running out.
I ordered from Valley Vet last last week. I received an email 3 days later telling me they were out of stock. I hung in there and yesterday they emailed me that it has shipped. Neeeeigh!! I mean....woohoo!
Yes they are
Tractor Supply near me had it for sale for way cheap on their site (Like $5.50 each compared to Amazon's $18-20). Downside was, the place was like ten minutes from me but they did not have it on the shelf but offered it for same day delivery for 20 bucks. I bought two delivered to my door the same day cheaper than I would have paid on Amazon, and Amazon wanted me to wait like three weeks to restock, too.
I ordered some off Amazon this morning.
I looked at my local farm store. I was confused because the horse dewormer is fenbendazol but they did have liquid Ivermectin for sheep (the irony). I also noticed a sign the store put up that Ivermectin is not for human use. Bullshit it isn’t. I didn’t know what I was doing, so I panicked and left after a sales associate came up to me to help, with a look like, “hey you don’t look like a farmer”.
I'm a lowly chicken farmer and I don't even wear plaid or boots. No one has ever questioned my Ivermectin or fenben purchases at TS. Just grab what you need and act like you belong there. Pick up some bird seed too, or a dog treat if it makes you more comfortable at the register.
Get a plaid shirt. Should work just fine. No shade to plaid wear-ers, but all the farmers I know seem to favor plaid.
Avoid animal marketed ivermectin that has salicylanilides or closantel in it. There are only 3 manufacturers of all the brands. Bimeda-MTC makes both Durvet Ivermectin and Bimeda Bimectin, which do not contain salicylanilides or closantel. There's an 11 page thread about it all on another site, which has a lot of info.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Taking-Ivermectin-for-Covid-Update-in-OP-/5-2406988/?page=8
Edit: Also be sure to read the Ivermectin contraindications before taking.
https://m.pdr.net/Mobile/Pages/drug-summary/Stromectol-ivermectin-391
No need to feel weird about it. Animal owners come in every shape, size, economic level, etc., and they all look different so no one really knows what an animal owner is supposed to look like.
Look at completing a successful shopping trip as taking action to fight back against those who want you ill or dead.
If it works, why stop? If they were so concerned, and so sure it doesn't work why wouldn't they instead say:
"Some people have been taking too much and poisoning themselves. We are sure this will not help with covid. to prove this, if you have covid, take the required dose (by bodyweight), and then take the same dose 48h later, and then take the same dose a week after your 2nd dose. You will see it doesn't work."
Instead they're flipping out because they know it works. They don't care about safety at all, just pushing the 'jab'.
Yeah, never mind that it works.
FTA: The FDA’s job is to carefully evaluate the scientific data on a drug to be sure that it is both safe and effective for a particular use, and then to decide whether or not to approve it.
So, FDA, have you looked at all the VAERS data for the 'vaccine' that has killed/maimed millions and for which you appear ready to give your approval to? You seem pretty selective about your scientific data.
They don’t care about the thousands of other VERS reports over the last few decades for other vaccines.
They refuse to do a long-term study for overall health outcomes of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children.
The legal immunity was around before COVID.
The whole industry is a scam.
People would probably just use HCQ but they have already fear mongered that one.
meanwhile its used in most cancer meds and the reason the meds work if you dig into the studies.
Why do you need a drug for a fake virus?
Because it's not so much about a fake virus anymore but the realization that humans could have untreated parasites, which ivermectin helps remove.
Right. Big pharma makes the tablets for livestock. Had to give my horse 2467 tablets today cuz...ivermectin is not for humans?
That was sarcasm.
People wouldn't be forced to use the paste if they'd stop withholding the human version.
Reese’s mini peanut butter cup
Cut in half, scoop out peanut butter in one of those halves, replace with your Ivermectin dosage. Pop the chocolate and ivermectin half in, chew and follow with the other half of the mini. Wash down with Coke, Dt Dew or beverage of choice. Best way yet to take the stuff.
But I am not an MD, nor am I prescribing this as a cure for anything. But if you decide this is the path you choose; this is the way I prefer to do it
Ps. Raspberry zinc lozenges are delicious
I eat mine with hay and wash it down at the trough.
I use oikos yogurt, stick it in a scoop of lemon meringue flavor, not too bad. Just taste a slight bitterness and then it's gone.
I've been taking it with a teaspoon of peanut butter but Reese's is definitely more fun.
Or squeeze the 2 or 3 clicks out of the syringe onto your finger. Lick it off. Swallow. Wash down with some water. It's not that bad or that complicated.
Sounds yummy!
Yes, quite taking ivermectin and start getting vaccines so we can die. Fuck the FDA
Yes true, but we also are not experimental lab rats either. So stop with the B.S. against hydrochloroquine and ivermectin.
Ordered mine off Amazon as well. I doubt either my significant other or myself would have any issues with an illness but you never know or maybe a friend or relative might need some.
Yeah, some jack ass is saying it's horse paste.
By the way, people at the fda that are making these decisions have names. We want them.
What is ironic - the FDA wants to TREAT US like freaking animals by demanding that we be tagged, labeled, jabbed and "managed" like animals. They can EFF themselves.
FDA is going down. Just their endorsement of sugar alone has destroyed the health of millions. Criminals.
I suddenly identify as a 17 hand appaloosa named Winnie in need of some of that there horse ivermectin
Upon further rumination (get it?) transit time of the gut is much longer in horses. Things to consider. I just ate half the per pound dose. I've eaten an ocean of sushi, poorly washed greens, and who knows what else. Should be interesting.
I wouldn't worry too much. I took it last night and everything went fine except I woke up in the middle of the night and had to piss like a racehorse.
One problem I see with ivermectin is the dosing is done by pound, but horses digestive system is much larger relative to it's mass than a human (because they eat grass). I intend to halve the dosage accordingly.
One notch on the dispenser per 50 pounds of body weight.
Mike Adam's showed the math. Mg required divided by ivermectin percentage equals mg dose..or something like that. Point being there's a math equation....not just cutting does in half.
Do you have the link for the Mike Adam episode? Anybody? We definitely need to start spreading the information for the correct dosing, otherwise people can get sick/poisoned from incorrect dosing. I’ll try to look it up too and if I figure it out I’ll post it on this thread. Thanks pedes.
They notch the syringe with 50 pound increments and have a stopper you set to make sure the plunger stops at the intended dose. If you can count by 50's the rest of what you need to figure out the dose is on the actual syringe. It was super easy. I had thought it more complicated until i actually had the syringe.
I misplaced it. But it was a June 2021 episode.
FOUND IT: https://www.brighteon.com/2c3dbab9-f19b-4e51-94a2-305aeae6a4c2
It’s not just body weight, either. Horses have completely different metabolisms because they digest different types of food and are designed to burn way more energy than a human. And the delivery system (the paste itself) has stuff in it that’s great for horses, and was never tested for humans.
Not to mention that it can react dangerously with common medications like blood thinners.
The active ingredient is the same for humans and horses, but it’s way more complicated to figure out the balance between safe and effective than some basic math on the back of a napkin. There is a reason that pharmacists have years of graduate-level chemistry education in order to figure this stuff out.
Nobody is saying they prefer to take horse ivermectin over people ivermectin. The problem is all these assholes with years of graduate level education dont give a fuck about actually helping people and will thus not prescribe the proper treatment. Regular folks then have no choice but to do what they feel they must. Also $200 for Dr. visit and prescription VS $5.00 at tractor supply.
We didn’t create 🤡 🌎
We’re just living in it.
I stay away from ALL doctors. If I should ever really need one, I might see one.
Yes. Close to $300 vs $8.50
Regardless of the difference in digestive systems. The paste has a certain concentration per lb. Which is 200 mcg per lb. Frontline says if you actively have covid that you need 400 to 600 mcg per kg. So it is a simple math problem to convert it from lb to kg. I am 200 lb and have been taking 500lb worth of past the last 3 days to go in the middle of the recommended dose. I feel 100 times better, my cough is going away which felt like bricks on my chest and couldn't stop deep coughing. If you don't want to waste time with a Skype doc appointment or can't afford the prices it cost me $26 at tractor supply. Which will leave me with excess even at my higher dose.
You sound historical <gdar>
Are you taking into account the inactive ingredients that are usually found in animal medicine versus human medicine that can react with things (like other medicines) in humans?
That paste itself is designed for horses. It’s designed to interact with their specific body chemistry. They put the medicine in the paste as a delivery mechanism. It’s not just a different way of taking medicine, it has a bunch of stuff in it that was never intended to interact with human biochemistry.
Look, I know I can’t and have no real interest in stopping people from taking horse medicine. It’s a free country. I just don’t think a lot of people here understand biochemistry well enough to even know all the things they need to be accounting for. You don’t know what you don’t know, and the only difference between a medicine and a poison is expertise.
I don’t like the idea of online prescriptions, but at least meds from Frontline are designed for humans and sent by doctors who (I hope) are asking about other meds you’re taking and considering the numerous factors that go into determining a safe dosage.
The ability to do these types of calculations confidently goes way beyond college chemistry, and I say that as someone with a healthy background in college chemistry. I would not trust myself to figure out the safe conversion of horse meds into human meds, because the stuff in horse meds isn’t tested in humans and I have no data to account for those factors whatsoever. I don’t like making up numbers for calculations of things I’m putting into my body.
You are right as far as inactive ingredients go and not being able to account for them. It is still absolutely a risk. For me it was one I was willing take take. I will update how I feel as the week and weeks progress with potential side effects
I have taken it in the past with no ill effect. Also found this…
“ As a prophylactic, the convention is now pretty much to take it monthly. If a person is already feeling sick, the treatment dose is THREE doses, but spaced 48 hours apart. So one dose on Monday, the next on Wednesday, the next on Friday, for example. The 48 hour spacing has to do with the liver’s speed at metabolizing Ivermectin. The 48 hour spacing MAXIMIZES the efficacy of the drug in the body.”
https://www.barnhardt.biz/ivermectin/
You can avoid the horse paste if you'd like. It's a free country. Quercetin & zinc also work too and thats what we use. There is so many ways to beat this now that the FDA is probably up into the wee hours of the morning trying to keep up with all of this. I say that alone is a good thing. But yea, seeing the inactive ingredients say "hydrogenated castor bean oil" made me not take it and I handed it to the lady down the road who owns horses.
I have heard/read/seen so much anecdotal testimonies all saying "it works", "No problems". If I or someone I know needed it I would not hesitate to take it. I have some paste just in case as well as other cures...just in case.
Glad you posted this. I've no idea why your post would be down voted. I thought we were truth seekers here, and want the truth, warts and all.
Which inactive ingredients are you concerned about? Your statements are passionate yet vague on actual concerns.
Respectfully, this question misses the point.
I don’t know what I should be worried about in horse paste, because the stuff in horse paste was added and mixed with absolutely no thought whatsoever as to how it would affect a person.
That’s my point. I have no data about that paste, because nobody ever predicted that humans would try eating the stuff. Because it was made for horses.
I have no research to look at. No data. Just the knowledge that the paste is full of stuff that was never intended for human consumption.
We know WAY more about what’s in the vaccine than horse paste. I can figure out how the doseage of the ingredients in a vaccine should affect a person. I know how those ingredients will interact with existing meds.
I know stuff about the vaccine because it was mixed and tested for human consumption.
None of that is true of horse paste. And yet, people are comfortable taking a risk with horse paste, and shunning the vaccine.
Shun the vaccine if you want, but eating horse paste to avoid it is sort of like jumping out of a bus on the interstate because you aren’t sure you’ll like the destination. Good luck, but it’s not exactly a choice I understand yet if we’re trying to be scientific about it.
You just stated that you have no way to know what is in the horse paste then reverse course and say you know it is full of stuff that is not intended for human consumption. By your own admission you don’t know if there is anything in there that is NOT fit for human consumption, so still goes back to me thinking you are an advanced shill who is looking to spend FUD foe something that has been working well for many. You don’t want to take it, don’t. You have no idea if there are any harmful substances in there, so why try to vilify it unless you have an agenda?
Speaking of the “vaccine” which it isn’t, but do you think the graphene oxide component of the vax is good for people? Curious to know how that is helping.
The horse paste is, from a human health POV, a mystery vial. It’s no better than eating random debris you find on the street. Maybe it’ll be fine. But nobody has tested it to see if you’ll be fine. Because nobody expected you to eat street garbage.
I prefer not to put things in my body that have never been tested in humans, but to each their own.
I’ve looked into the graphene oxide thing. It’s based off of one lab testing one vial that was labeled as a vaccine. They could not confirm that it actually was, because it arrived by courier service and they don’t know from where.
Nothing in my own research, based off of leads from this board, has come anywhere near proving that graphene oxide is in these vaccines. I don’t accept the validity of a single test on a vial of unknown origin and contents as proof of anything.
If you have stronger proof, I’m interested in reading it.
I know stuff about the vaccine because it was mixed and tested for human consumption.
Weird that you are getting downvoted. You bring up some sound points
No, it really is that fucking simple. Horse paste isn’t magical or indigestible. The injectable formulation can be used orally, just like medications for humans sometimes are. This is mostly about palatability.
Just don’t be an idiot and drink an entire bottle or eat the entire tube.
You can get a prescription for (human) pills from a lot of doctors, including Americasfrontlinedoctors.com.
Mine was around $150 just for 3 days of treatment.
$60 consult and $98 for the pills. I skipped the consultation, but I wish I didn’t because I was hoping for a few months of prophylactics.
Knowing these pills cost pennies each, the markup is astounding.
If horse paste works, I prefer that. I could get years of treatment for the same price.
I mean, if you’re going to go at this on your own, taking the version of the medication that was actually designed for human digestive systems is much safer.
And people already have determined a safe effective dosage. There's a lot of 200 lb. horses out there now.
SHUTUP AND TAKE YOUR CLOTSHOT, BIGGOT!! -some brainwashed person
This being said by an agency that has done nothing but attempt to lead us to slaughter like cattle with an unproven technology and jab. No thanks FDA, I'll take my chances with the horse paste.
And Im not a guinea pig either.
Bwahaha. That tiny horse. How cute is that? Her belly is so close to the ground, lol.
We are not livestock. So stop getting the mark of the beast vaccine.
yanno what's really annoying is this stuff basically would stop the flu and the common cold too.
I don't plan on getting sick this year.
Replace "ivermectin" with "covid vaccine" in this article and it reads the same.
I'm not a sheep either.
My wife wants the vaccine. She has been holding off simply because she knows it could cause some friction between us as I am opposed to it primarily since we are trying to have a kid currently.
This makes me sad and makes me worried that (yes, doomering) we aren’t moving fast enough. I know if there is any shot in hell to get things right and under control it requires patience - but now that it has things affecting my home life it is scary.
She isn’t entirely based, but cautious, but feels the vaccine seems safe enough (even tho we aren’t not “at risk”). I’ve expressed I’m opposed for at least a couple years unless people start dying left and right, simply because I don’t want to be a guinea pig - not because I think it will cause us all to become zombies or it’s some globalist plot to control the population … she still remains where she is on it tho
There are a lot of reputable sources that explain why it’s not safe to take the jab. I’m sure you’ve showed her some, but if not, a good place to start is America’s frontline doctors 12 reasons why you shouldn’t take the vaccine. There are a lot of different reputable sources though, including videos of whistleblowers from the vax companies coming forward—like the inventor of the mRNA vaccine. You just have to do some research and educate her.
Yeah I’ve been thru it all cuz I’m here, but she’s not into a lot of other alternative sources. She was half on board last year that “somethings up” with the world and nation, and she’s heard about Q but is more left leaning so as soon as they started running stories debunking it all as being conspiracy theories from alt right trump supporters she basically has felt it was all a joke.
She’s not a super liberal or anything thankfully, and she does think vaccine should be choice …. So far she isn’t taking it and I hope that continues.
But yes I will try to compile some stuff for her to look at… I’d rather her not get it because she fees she shouldn’t vs not getting it because she’s worried how I’d feel about it.
Wow. One of the suspected consequences of the vaccine is the tagging of placental material with the protein spikes, which makes it a target for the body's immune system. As of 30 July, the VAERS data base had about 1600 miscarriages on record (and this may represent 20% of the true case numbers). There is the possibility of induced sterility. If you are trying to have a child, this could spell disaster for you. Please look into this and let your wife know. (www.openvaers.com/covid-data)
Thanks, She’s staying away for now thankfully.
What if you identify a man either? Is this RAYSIS?
Am I a mammal? Then stfu.