Likely cover story they're going to feed us from the media "Facebook had to shut down services in order to force all users to reset passwords and we had some kind of boop-beep-bop that caused a longer outage than we hoped!"
Wow! Awesome! Today feels like one of those infomercials where each product attribute keeps the viewer left agape and in-awe... (my personal fave, the Slap Chop)...
IT pede here in networking, not nearly on the level of FB though...from what I can see from sources, this isn't an issue with the BGP being hijacked or rerouted like can happen sometimes. It looks like as you said, the records have been completely withdrawn. If that's the case, there's only a couple things I can think of that caused that to happen:
There is some sort of hellish attack specifically targeting FB that went on using a method that no one's aware of yet. If this is the case then shit is scary as hell as it means that someone has basically found a "kill switch" for large Internet services.
Someone super high up at FB went rogue and pulled the routing tables.
Someone with just-high-enough levels of access to their system pushed out an update that is literally the perfect storm of stupid that cascaded and took down their entire networks. If this is the case then FB has a gaping design hole bigger than the one in between a Vegas hooker's legs and should never be trusted for anything again.
Also IT pede: 100% concur. Pulling the records from the Root Servers could only be intentional, though. BGP has nothing to do with DNS. But I want it to be (2) and (4) together, please...
Absolutely nothing would surprise me at this point. Would they do it intentionally and pre-emptively? Absolutely. Remember the email tale of Hillary and the hammers? I put NOTHING past them.
Yeah I have to admit I only know the fundamentals of BGP. But my thought is that it most likely isn't internal, or if it is then it's an inside job or some kind of inside control. We're talking about one of the largest infrastructures in the world here. You're going to have failovers, you're going to have failovers for those failovers, and then you're going to have "oh shit" levels of failover that will at least allow internal routing. But from the sounds of it their internal systems are down too...door locks not working, keycards being down, messaging systems down...
One failover server going out is a big inconvenience. Two is a coincidence. Three is a catastrophe. Every single one going down is planned.
That's if it's from the inside though. If it's from the provider end, then someone would have either have to have given the order to shut it down or someone would have to have control from the provider side of things. Which could be a sign of very very very bad things if that's going on and whitehats aren't in control of this.
So for the big guys each isp can run a "local" server. For example, a gov't level sip will run Google servers on their network, to help with load balance, accessibility, and the like. Some of these networks could have a dozen servers distributed across the state, more often more. Gives redundancy, speed, and service. This is PER ISP. FB can have servers all over too. Many servers just do distribution, they dont serve to customers, theyre just running backend sharing to keep everything up to date. With load balancing, you are talking about hundreds, thousands of servers, with legions of switches, routers, and thousands of DNS servers spread all over for support.
The redundancy built into this is rediculous. No random hacker group or script kiddie did this.
Who could do this:
Larger gov't agencies -
Space Force- yes
CIA or FBI/DHS...maybe? Remember, these slovenly agencies have had many of their military & tech assets pulled, so possibly still reeling from the loss. Thank you Trump.
FB itself - yes
China.....eh, maybe
Any European country.... Maybe
England?
Russia...probably...maybe?
Mafia - no.
Competitive companies....yeah like who is big enough to take that on....Microsoft? Google? Allies screwing each other?
Patriots, no group I know of, but that isn't surprising.
Yep. The only way that it could be "hacking" isn't by attacking BGP like some people are claiming. Someone would either have to have found a way to breach FB so badly that they have full control of the most critical part of their infrastructure and take it down from inside (not likely). Or they'd have to have control of either the BGP provider or the global root servers. Slightly more likely I suppose but way more scary.
Couldn’t say, haven’t been monitoring threatmaps. Doesn’t fit their MO in my opinion. Usually them and China like DDoSing stuff to death. Methinks if this is an external attack it’d have to be extremely precise with a high likelihood of someone internal being involved to assist.
Agreed, honestly I don't know that Russia hass the access without help. Inside? Honestly insiders would have to be IT, and they could probably do it on their own if they already had that kind of access.
Physically haD to pull the routing tables? Oh boy, folks, we were told, I hope it smashes em to shit. Deep state voluntary link analyisis collection device.
Not that I use FB, but even going to facebook.com still results not even in a "We're down while we figure out how to sell you like cattle again" error page, but a "Server Not Found."
there are backups, and backups of backups. there's load balancing. there are whole alternate sites. the chances of all of that failing and nobody being able to get it running again was slight after an hour. we're at 5 now.
It's intentional. But who is doing it and why is yet to be known for sure. We MIGHT know and it's a safe bet considering today's deltas. Only time will tell.
The Leftists I know are already anxious enough. Nothing calms them anymore. I've watched many leftists becoming tense, and unable to ever feel relaxed since 2020. It's not really Covid or the Jabs, it's deeper. They cling to their delusions and fall into child-like fantasies because what really scares them is they all feel like their world is falling apart. They though if Trump was out they could go back to how things were, but it's only getting worse with Biden. They were calm and relaxed and deep in their delusions during the Obama years. Reality never threatened their delusions.
Now nothing they do seems to comfort them. BLM has died out. That was their last big outrage fix. Now they all are in a state of constant, "I can't handle this and I need a therapists". Social media is the only thing holding some of them together. Without the Gram and FB they'd fall to pieces.
The evidence of coordination and pre-planning and intentional mass-murder that could be presented at the trials/tribunals already would be damning... and we're certainly not even privy yet to 99% of the evidence that will be forthcoming.
Remember Zuck spent $400 million to help steal the election. This is treason! I'd be willing to bet if he was arrested and the news of his arrest is imminent, they would shut FB down to prevent external intrusion of data that they may want to keep as evidence. In other words they isolated the servers to protect any incriminating evidence they could use to prosecute Zucker. I like to think big.
You'll see two different 5-digit numbers under the "Networks" column. These are called "autonomous system numbers" or ASNs. Think of these as the "phone number" for very large organizations on the Internet.
Log into a public route server. A handy list is here: https://www.netdigix.com/servers.html. I won't provide a telnet tutorial here, but that's what you'll need to connect to a route server.
Once logged in, run show bgp regexp ^.* 63293$ and show bgp regexp ^.* 32934$
You should see a bunch of results, confirming that the FB network is still very much online.
This isn't to say that a DNS outage itself isn't devastating. It most certainly is and their share price is showing as much.
LOL It's a bad network engineer who input an incorrect statement. This in turn took down authentication for all of facebook's buildings and remote connecting. So the guy that was remotely configuring the router was locked out because authentication was brought down. This is what took down employee's ability to be able to enter the building. It wasn't until someone could physically get into the building could they make the necessary changes for Facebook to be accessible again.
lol I'm an IT Fag and I'm telling you it absolutely is. He probably fucked up his route statements for his AS numbers in their BGP routing. It's easy to do. And after authentication goes down it takes time to get the right person into the office to get it fixed. Its very very feasible
Well its what happened. You should be focused on the bullshit facebook "whistleblower" who is in the middle of making excuses for why we need more censorship on facebook and the internet as a whole.
Even assuming all this was done, the person conducting the change would be using the out of band connectivity to perform it. This is done so that if you make a mistake or there is an undocumented bug in the IOS code (it happens) then they are not kicked off the device and can still remediate the problem.
The very fact that engineers could not get into the building to fix the problem once it started means that there was no-one actually making the change
They used a facebook domain to authenticate their badges. Their routing took down the facebook domain. They had to get someone physically into the office to get it back up. Like I said last time, you should be focused on the "whistleblower" who is begging congress to make more censorship rules for facebook.
Remember Oct 4, 2018: MEDIA ASSETS WILL BE REMOVED
Their stock selloff this morning indicates that insiders knew they were coming for them today.
If you wonder about hacking, read:
Thanks for the recall u/magpie17:
Original Q post comment permalink:
Likely cover story they're going to feed us from the media "Facebook had to shut down services in order to force all users to reset passwords and we had some kind of boop-beep-bop that caused a longer outage than we hoped!"
Supposed FB employee talking about being locked out:
I don't know if it's Happening or not, but I'm going to enjoy the moment anyway.
u/#Trumphappening
u/#ridetofreedom
How many bricks can we throw from this train?!!!!
I don't know, but let's finish the Wall with them!
u/#buildthewall
Don’t forget a coat!!!!
Gimme one...you don’t get em ALL?!!
Two of my favorite memes
Wow! Awesome! Today feels like one of those infomercials where each product attribute keeps the viewer left agape and in-awe... (my personal fave, the Slap Chop)...
"But wait, there's more!"
Kek
Slap chop?
Vince
That fuckin' guy
Get a fauxhawk and a headset, and suddenly you're America's favorite pitchman, shilling for German-made shop rags
u/#q2337
https://mobile.twitter.com/BenjaminEnfield/status/1445104389014835213
Good call.
IT pede here in networking, not nearly on the level of FB though...from what I can see from sources, this isn't an issue with the BGP being hijacked or rerouted like can happen sometimes. It looks like as you said, the records have been completely withdrawn. If that's the case, there's only a couple things I can think of that caused that to happen:
There is some sort of hellish attack specifically targeting FB that went on using a method that no one's aware of yet. If this is the case then shit is scary as hell as it means that someone has basically found a "kill switch" for large Internet services.
Someone super high up at FB went rogue and pulled the routing tables.
Someone with just-high-enough levels of access to their system pushed out an update that is literally the perfect storm of stupid that cascaded and took down their entire networks. If this is the case then FB has a gaping design hole bigger than the one in between a Vegas hooker's legs and should never be trusted for anything again.
IS HAPPENING.
That's all I can think of.
Also IT pede: 100% concur. Pulling the records from the Root Servers could only be intentional, though. BGP has nothing to do with DNS. But I want it to be (2) and (4) together, please...
Do you think theyd do this preemptively to cover crimes?
Im talking back door pay to play pages on their site to CP. Putin called them out on this a few days ago.
Could be done intentionally to establish a record of failure on advance of communication blackout
No.
This is either gov't level temp shutdown, or some internal strife took it down for a while. 2 or 4. But not exactly either.
Absolutely nothing would surprise me at this point. Would they do it intentionally and pre-emptively? Absolutely. Remember the email tale of Hillary and the hammers? I put NOTHING past them.
Yeah I have to admit I only know the fundamentals of BGP. But my thought is that it most likely isn't internal, or if it is then it's an inside job or some kind of inside control. We're talking about one of the largest infrastructures in the world here. You're going to have failovers, you're going to have failovers for those failovers, and then you're going to have "oh shit" levels of failover that will at least allow internal routing. But from the sounds of it their internal systems are down too...door locks not working, keycards being down, messaging systems down...
One failover server going out is a big inconvenience. Two is a coincidence. Three is a catastrophe. Every single one going down is planned.
That's if it's from the inside though. If it's from the provider end, then someone would have either have to have given the order to shut it down or someone would have to have control from the provider side of things. Which could be a sign of very very very bad things if that's going on and whitehats aren't in control of this.
Sorry for not having the correct terms.
So for the big guys each isp can run a "local" server. For example, a gov't level sip will run Google servers on their network, to help with load balance, accessibility, and the like. Some of these networks could have a dozen servers distributed across the state, more often more. Gives redundancy, speed, and service. This is PER ISP. FB can have servers all over too. Many servers just do distribution, they dont serve to customers, theyre just running backend sharing to keep everything up to date. With load balancing, you are talking about hundreds, thousands of servers, with legions of switches, routers, and thousands of DNS servers spread all over for support.
The redundancy built into this is rediculous. No random hacker group or script kiddie did this.
Who could do this:
Larger gov't agencies -
Space Force- yes
CIA or FBI/DHS...maybe? Remember, these slovenly agencies have had many of their military & tech assets pulled, so possibly still reeling from the loss. Thank you Trump.
FB itself - yes
China.....eh, maybe
Any European country.... Maybe England?
Russia...probably...maybe?
Mafia - no.
Competitive companies....yeah like who is big enough to take that on....Microsoft? Google? Allies screwing each other?
Patriots, no group I know of, but that isn't surprising.
For those saying hacking:
Yep. The only way that it could be "hacking" isn't by attacking BGP like some people are claiming. Someone would either have to have found a way to breach FB so badly that they have full control of the most critical part of their infrastructure and take it down from inside (not likely). Or they'd have to have control of either the BGP provider or the global root servers. Slightly more likely I suppose but way more scary.
You think maybe Russia could be behind this? They were warning Fakebook last week about CP being on their network.
Couldn’t say, haven’t been monitoring threatmaps. Doesn’t fit their MO in my opinion. Usually them and China like DDoSing stuff to death. Methinks if this is an external attack it’d have to be extremely precise with a high likelihood of someone internal being involved to assist.
Agreed, honestly I don't know that Russia hass the access without help. Inside? Honestly insiders would have to be IT, and they could probably do it on their own if they already had that kind of access.
Occam's razor says #3. I hope for #4.
Physically haD to pull the routing tables? Oh boy, folks, we were told, I hope it smashes em to shit. Deep state voluntary link analyisis collection device.
Love the disclose.tv about fb employees badges don't work...
Very exciting to see that, yes!
Oreally? That's beyond their web presence. Please please please be happening.
I wonder how many employees called their recruiter today.
Fb is still down for me.
I hope this is the beginning of the end.it sure feels like something is happening. I love it!
Still down here, too.
Not that I use FB, but even going to facebook.com still results not even in a "We're down while we figure out how to sell you like cattle again" error page, but a "Server Not Found."
Big outage.
I get the oops something is wrong ,we are working on it page. But that's it.
I still use it mainly for dropping memes and truth till I get banned. And marketplace.
there are backups, and backups of backups. there's load balancing. there are whole alternate sites. the chances of all of that failing and nobody being able to get it running again was slight after an hour. we're at 5 now.
Yes, this is a really "big deal"
It's intentional. But who is doing it and why is yet to be known for sure. We MIGHT know and it's a safe bet considering today's deltas. Only time will tell.
Australian here, it has given me a great feeling to start the day.
This delta is just plain exciting.
Wow, thanks for sharing. That is incredibly interesting.
Imagine if the normies have NO FAKEBOOK anymore!
They would have to ... I dunno ... RESEARCH other forums for info and communication ... and find frens elsewhere.
Might even be forced to ... WAKE UP!
Oh noooooo!
Would be pretty cool if they discovered .win network and red-dit (as in commie red) went out.
The Leftists I know are already anxious enough. Nothing calms them anymore. I've watched many leftists becoming tense, and unable to ever feel relaxed since 2020. It's not really Covid or the Jabs, it's deeper. They cling to their delusions and fall into child-like fantasies because what really scares them is they all feel like their world is falling apart. They though if Trump was out they could go back to how things were, but it's only getting worse with Biden. They were calm and relaxed and deep in their delusions during the Obama years. Reality never threatened their delusions.
Now nothing they do seems to comfort them. BLM has died out. That was their last big outrage fix. Now they all are in a state of constant, "I can't handle this and I need a therapists". Social media is the only thing holding some of them together. Without the Gram and FB they'd fall to pieces.
Or run scared to their TVs to turn CNN on.
A little voice in my head just said don't forget about the WEF cyber warfare games. I hope this is not the Globalists creating panic
Totally. My money is 100% on: Klaus Schwab put on his megavillain cyber-vest again and just hacked the sht out of the world.
https://3fssfi2d8cso2spw9o1uumfp-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Klaus-Schwab.png
They don't fool around, look at the chaos from covid. They had Pandemic wargames just before covid hit.
The evidence of coordination and pre-planning and intentional mass-murder that could be presented at the trials/tribunals already would be damning... and we're certainly not even privy yet to 99% of the evidence that will be forthcoming.
It's going to be a tidal wave.
And this is just the first day of the first full week of October
Remember Zuck spent $400 million to help steal the election. This is treason! I'd be willing to bet if he was arrested and the news of his arrest is imminent, they would shut FB down to prevent external intrusion of data that they may want to keep as evidence. In other words they isolated the servers to protect any incriminating evidence they could use to prosecute Zucker. I like to think big.
¡We're praying fren!
u/#q2344
Nice catch on a delta.
Can safely say many anons were ready since posted and renewed yearly since.
This isn't quite true. One can easily verify this as follows:
show bgp regexp ^.* 63293$andshow bgp regexp ^.* 32934$This isn't to say that a DNS outage itself isn't devastating. It most certainly is and their share price is showing as much.
See:
What they are saying otherwise did NOT happen to FB and its assets.
Most major outages always have something to do with BGP, it seems. I'm technical, but not too versed in BGP...
Who was responsible for the BGP changes today? Facebook or an outside source? Shouldn't that information be public?
More info on BGP hacking:
u/#q2342
BGP was NOT removed Some networks stopped being announced including a block for the name servers .
https://greatawakening.win/p/12jJs336Z6/-gifs-emojis-and-q-posts-/
God I love that cat...
https://greatawakening.win/p/12jJs336Z6/-gifs-emojis-and-q-posts-/
Try this link for info, fren
WHOOO HOOO!
Just talked to my friend here in Ohio It's back on here
It's back up.
Could the DS be shorting FB???
Could it be white hats showing they can shut them down at will?
this guy KNOWS HIS CHIT .../!
Essentially there are no routes for the WAN?
Problems at the 'border'? kek
Remember what Q said.
FISA = Start. That also means the start of Durham's FISA indictments. It's the foundation for the whole takedown.
LOL It's a bad network engineer who input an incorrect statement. This in turn took down authentication for all of facebook's buildings and remote connecting. So the guy that was remotely configuring the router was locked out because authentication was brought down. This is what took down employee's ability to be able to enter the building. It wasn't until someone could physically get into the building could they make the necessary changes for Facebook to be accessible again.
That isn't even feasible. It's Facebook, not some random wordpress site.
lol I'm an IT Fag and I'm telling you it absolutely is. He probably fucked up his route statements for his AS numbers in their BGP routing. It's easy to do. And after authentication goes down it takes time to get the right person into the office to get it fixed. Its very very feasible
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Well its what happened. You should be focused on the bullshit facebook "whistleblower" who is in the middle of making excuses for why we need more censorship on facebook and the internet as a whole.
You should be cognizant and focused on BOTH and frankly many more things going on actually.
https://greatawakening.win/p/13zg4u0j68/there-is-no-way-facebook-outage-/c/
Even assuming all this was done, the person conducting the change would be using the out of band connectivity to perform it. This is done so that if you make a mistake or there is an undocumented bug in the IOS code (it happens) then they are not kicked off the device and can still remediate the problem.
The very fact that engineers could not get into the building to fix the problem once it started means that there was no-one actually making the change
They used a facebook domain to authenticate their badges. Their routing took down the facebook domain. They had to get someone physically into the office to get it back up. Like I said last time, you should be focused on the "whistleblower" who is begging congress to make more censorship rules for facebook.
It's going mainstream. So you are saying it's likely a protected physical location ykubwaiuld have to access to get to it???
If so it begs a lot of questions?
No such thing as unhackable... Some things are easier to hack than others is all.
It's at least as likely to be a fuckup by some IT slob. Vast majority of production outages are because of human error.