When I first saw this drop I went down so many rabbit holes...so much sauce in this post alone....😉
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Do you all know what really happened to the Hindenburg?
When I was a child I was told by a credible source (scientist) that it was purposely destroyed in the most visually scary way possible. A true PSYOP to make everyone fear hydrogen, the most abundant gas in the universe, also one that burns clean (water vapor from exhaust pipes). He said oil tycoons had a hand in it and with reporters on the flight and on the ground witnessing women, children, etc being burned up in a bright fiery ball would be enough to scare humanity away from developing hydrogen based vehicles for at least a hundred years.
He said airships are slow but perfect for shipping of all kinds of goods and materials across land and water, no need for roads. With way less tractor trailers clogging up traffic, (spewing pollutants) it would have given way to better hydrogen(clean) based cars and better roads and traffic management. This would also cost MUCH less money, money Big Oil wanted.
He said it was not just Big Oil involved in the PSYOP. The electric companies needed hydrogen stopped too. He showed me OLD technology, a hydrogen producer. A chemical formula that can produce hydrogen at 40lbs constant pressure, when the valve is open. When the valve is shut the containment chamber stabilizes at 40lbs and the chemical reaction stops in the mixing chamber. There is NO PRESSURE BUILD UP, zero chance of explosion. He said even if we were to purposely put this hydrogen producer in a fire to blow it up, the explosion would be very small, like an M80 fire cracker. The gas chamber is very small and the hydrogen is only created when the valve is opened.
Why did the electricity company want hydrogen fear in the minds of men? He told me how he got the electric company and government goons to swarm his house. He took an old water turbine from a mill and connected it to the crankshaft of a tractor trailer engine that he converted to run off the hydrogen producer. When he fired it up he pumped out enough juice to power the entire town he lived in as well as many of the surrounding towns. The government, police and electric company swarmed his place and forced him to disconnect it. Some say that if you put power back into the grid the electric company pays you, this is only true if it is meaningless pennies. If it is enough electricity to power a city... they shut you down. We could all be producing localized electricity with this method, either for a town or just in our own homes. No grid. No electric lines stretched across the land. Using cheap (most abundant element in the universe) hydrogen producers hooked into a hydrogen combustion engine spinning a turbine. No more Electric Company.... Government loses taxes... They don't want it to happen.
Wow, what a good read. When I read stuff like this, it gives me hope for the New World where greed won't be what guides people.
Was reading it thinking the same. And wanting the blueprints. :)
In another thread I found an old first-take analysis reading "Prescott Bush and Allen Dulles owned shares in Union Bank, which owned Holland-America. Holland-America managed the Hindenburg. The man in charge of Holland-America in the US, John Pannes, died in the Hindenburg."
I can see from our frenemies at Fresh Air that Prescott Bush worked for George Walker of W. A. Harriman & Co., and "Harriman and Walker took a participation in the Hamburg-America Lines." (Not Holland-America.) Bush was also a director of Union Banking Corporation (not Union Bank), which had its assets seized in 1942 under the Trading With the Enemy Act due to Thyssen Steel holdings that were held to be Nazi (NSDAP) related. Hamburg-America, now Hapag Lloyd, did manage the Hindenburg and did lose their local manager John Pannes in the 1937 wreck. So the basic links are confirmed and the suspicion can be placed. However it's hard to tell what's more important to the wreck narrative, the death of Pannes or the death of the airship industry. The connection to brainwashing, psyops, and sheep suggests that this was brought in partly for the change in industry focus, but one death (or more) being significant also suggests that there may have been opposition to the change; but Pannes doesn't seem like a big enough player for that purpose. Yet Q thinks we can figure this one out too, so it may be simpler than that.
Interestingly, Hamburg-America owned the SS Amerika, the first ship to warn the Titanic about icebergs.
A+ post, Patriot. Just opened my eyes and reminded me everything is tied back to electricity.
I was more impressed with how many things are tied to centralization
Even more broadly it's tied to energy, not simply electricity. Thanks for your comment it also made me just remember the underlying motivations of almost all their schemes as well
Wow I'm gonna have to dig on that!! Doesn't surprise me at all tbh.... Thanks for the post fren!
Just type HHO in YT, and you'll get lots of Videos on the technology...
Even Trucks running on it.....
That's badass!!
Nope this is not HHO. No electrical power is applied at all. This is not electrolysis . This is not using direct electric current to drive an otherwise non-spontaneous chemical reaction. Pretty sure it is a spontaneous chemical reaction since I just add the 3 ingredients, and never apply power to it.
I got the jist of that....
Still wondering what three chems and in what quantity each....
This is what he taught me to use... also use caution.
Aluminum scrap, (industrial drain cleaner) sulfuric acid, diluted with water 50/50
When Aluminum metal reacts with diluted. sulfuric acid, it gives Hydrogen gas and Aluminum sulfate.
Reaction follows: Al + H2SO4 → Al2(SO4)3 + H2
Try it with Aluminum and diluted sulfuric acid(drain cleaner and water) in a test tube.
Bring a burning match near the test tube mouth. You can observe ‘pop’ sound. It confirms the liberation of H2 gas.
This pop sound is because of vigorous reaction between H2 and atmospheric oxygen to form H2O.
For the device itself. Made of Steel. I need to find my drawings and upload them someplace.
The mixing chamber, and connecting pipes and the gas chamber with its safety features, valves and such is not as easily explained... there is also the cleaning valves for removing the waste Aluminum sulfate.
WOW!!! Awesome.... I'll have to save this so I can try it later....
Every HS chemistry student knows this reaction as replacement of Hydrogen in an acid by a metal. It is a standard lab.
Aluminum sulfate is a salt thats soluble in water.
You can run this reaction with many metals and acids. They mostly produce salts that are water soluble. So what do you do with all that salty water?
put it on the icy roads........
It takes energy to extract hydrogen from some source. "Burning" hydrogen as fuel (oxidation to create water e.g.) will only produce power proportional to the energy released in the oxidation process (forming of chemical bonds). That energy (in the form of heat) will not be 100% efficient in the creation of electrical or mechanical energy; i.e. some will be lost to heat exchange with the surroundings. Even in a perfect system the energy you require to get the hydrogen by itself in the first place will not net you much of an increase in energy, if any at all.
For example:
The total hydrogen bond energy for methane (CH4) is 397kcal/mol. This is the minimum amount of energy required to extract 2 H2 from one CH4.
The amount of hydrogen bond energy in a water molecule is 232kcal/mol, thus two H2 from water requires (or releases) 464kcal/mol.
Its not as simple as all that, because we have to form the H2 molecules, and we have to do something with the O and C left over, which means more bond energies. The ambient temperature, the pressure, the state of matter all make a fair bit of difference, but for simplicity lets just look at these numbers.
So it takes 397kcal/mol to create the 2 H2, and then we get 464kical/mol out of it when we oxidize it netting us 67kcal/mol. Not a whole lot, and we've had to get the methane in the first place, and we had to put energy into the system to extract it, but we did net some energy through this chemical process. Then we have the inefficiencies in the system, the energy lost to heat, etc.
But what if we start with water and then end with water?
Then its a net of 0kcal/mol, and its actually less than that for reasons I've already stated, costing us more energy in than out.
Now we can get that energy from natural sources, like the sun, or geothermal. We are then really getting the energy from the sun or earth, and storing it in a chemical battery. Which btw is exactly what solar energy and battery storage is, but instead of storing the energy in hydrogen gas, which is not very energy dense, we are storing it in lithium batteries (aka chemical storage).
So the question I have for you is, if someone produced a super wonderful hydrogen chemical energy extraction engine, where did they get the hydrogen from? What was the initial energy source?
Now don't get me wrong, there are potential other uses of hydrogen other than chemical energy that can extract TONS of energy from a small amount of hydrogen, making the creation of H2 from other stores of hydrogen (like methane or water) well worth it (fusion e.g.), but in a purely chemical process, hydrogen is at best a weak battery (aka storage of chemical energy requiring input from an external source to create).
Unless your suggesting mining H2 from the sun, or maybe the clouds of Jupiter, in which case, knock yourself out.
This does NOT use electricity to split the hydrogen. I never said it did.
am not a chemist, nor do I play one on the internet...
this is the mixture (use caution)
When Aluminum metal reacts with diluted. sulfuric acid, it gives Hydrogen gas and Aluminum sulfate.
Reaction follows: Al + H2SO4 → Al2(SO4)3 + H2
(see more in posts above)
No problem. I just want to make sure this is not confused with electrolysis or HH0 or other methods of splitting water. This is liberating the hydrogen from the aluminum. I hope by sharing this might spark creativity in others.
I appreciate you making this point. It drives me mad when the government (UK) start talking about "hydrogen boilers" or "hydrogen cars" because, as you say, it is really only a storage media for energy, there is no vast reservoir of hydrogen waiting to be tapped.
Best case scenario is producing it alongside a nuclear power plant, but if its intended for domestic heating you might as well just have resistive panel heaters because there is no advantage to piping hydrogen all over the place, that you made using electricity.
This does NOT use electricity to split the hydrogen. I never said it did. The "storage media for energy" would be in the form of aluminum/acid mixture. We are not storing hydrogen with the method I have described.
am not a chemist, nor do I play one on the internet...
this is the mixture (use caution)
When Aluminum metal reacts with diluted. sulfuric acid, it gives Hydrogen gas and Aluminum sulfate.
Reaction follows: Al + H2SO4 → Al2(SO4)3 + H2
(see more in posts above)
I take your point, but the aluminium is made with electricity so actually this energy cycle is worse than I thought. I suppose you could recycle used aluminium like this thought.
Yes, all we ever used was recycle scrap aluminum. I have wanted to try with a nice piece of pure aluminum.
I am not a chemist, nor do I play one on the internet...
this is the mixture
When Aluminum metal reacts with diluted. sulfuric acid, it gives Hydrogen gas and Aluminum sulfate.
Reaction follows: Al + H2SO4 → Al2(SO4)3 + H2
I explained more to someone above. This only produces the hydrogen, what he hook it into after was a converted diesel engine. He said he keep melting parts and needed better components. This was in the early 1980s btw.
And where does one get sulfuric acid and pure aluminum? I mean, they aren't that hard to get, but they take energy to create those things. Again, any chemical engine is just another form of battery. That doesn't mean you can't get more energy out than you put in, but if you go back in time, you will find the energy came from somewhere else, and was just stored in the chemicals for later use.
I am not suggesting there is no merits to such a system. I am not saying hydrogen is useless. But to suggest it is somehow better than hydrocarbons (i.e. more chemically efficient, more reliable mining or extraction source, etc.) just isn't in line with chemistry. If there was a huge pile of pure Al and a gigantic bottle of H2SO4 sitting around and you had no better use for it, creating an engine to create electricity from H2 is probably a pretty good idea. But there is nothing there that is better than a gasoline engine for the same purpose (chemically speaking).
What IS better is using H2 (or rather D2) for fusion. Cold fusion has tons of evidential support (at some point I will do a proper write up for that). That is a real suppressed technology. Then we aren't talking about chemical energy storage but nuclear energy storage. That's a whole other ball of waxy atomic particles.
I do understand what you are getting at, kinda. But this is not a chemical engine. It is a hydrogen extraction method which the gas is then used to run a converted gas/diesel engine with. Clean burning. Also we are using scraps here, my first run of it I used a bunch of crushed cans. Pure aluminum is not required and sulfuric acid is cheap, get it from restaurant supply for cleaning drains. The system he had (mine is smaller) held about 5 gallons, and when he ran his 1935 ford truck off it, he only had to fill it every 8 months or so. The main issue was the conversion in the engine in the truck where the heat of the hydrogen was burning out parts. Back then we did not have the composite materials we have today that can withstand such heat.
If you were running a truck off of hydrogen for 8 months either you were never driving it or it was not using chemical energy. It's pretty much that simple.
As for the rest, a "battery" is something that stores energy for later use. We use the term to mean something that stores chemical energy in such a way that when released charged particles will move between two nodes, thus creating a current. But really, a battery is any storage of energy. In the case of stored chemical energy, it really is just like a battery (electric) except it doesn't have a path for charged particles to flow and thus is really a heat battery (or photon battery, depending on how you look at it).
He was running hydrogen into the intake, where you would normally put gasoline. He was working on techniques to mix/spray oil lubricants in the process. He was burning up rings, valves and all sort of stuff. So I do expect that having to fix the truck all the time meant he was not driving it constantly. He was aiming for combustion energy. I think your description of chemical energy includes combustion, is that correct?
Yes. "Combustion" means to start a chemical reaction using an input of heat as a catalyst (and keep the reaction cycle running by a high heat chamber). No matter how you slice it, there is only so much energy stored in a chemical bond. Its pretty much the exact same amount of chemical energy for any given bond.
In the case of using hydrogen as a combustion fuel that would be (almost certainly) mixing with oxygen which would produce water. I have given the amount of energy in such bonds (i.e. H2 + 1/2 O2 = H2O = 232 kcal/mol). It's a perfectly acceptable amount of energy, but its not meaningfully different than in hydrocarbons. There aren't really any chemical bonds that are meaningfully more than hydrocarbons. I'd have to look it up, but I think all chemical bonds are in the 50-150 kcal/mol range (a single O-H is half of the above, i.e. 116kcal/mol).
Chemical energy is chemical energy. There is no secret sauce in chemical energy. Not to say there aren't some processes that are better than others, but its not OMG, its more like, "This is 10%/20%/30% better or worse than that one," etc.
While hydrogen as a fuel source is perfectly viable, and it may even be suppressed for oil, it isn't a game changer by any stretch, at least not in a chemical process.
Who died during the 'accident'? Pick one of the 36 names.
Why is this relevant? Tie the name to another of the subjects here. Big Oil in America means Rockefellers, but they are not one of the subjects here directly unless you prove they are family 'y'. Saud is already excluded from Y because it remains alongside Soros in this storyline. Who do you think is intended? This is the greatest ARG of all time and we have much ground yet to cover.
Who died??
The last three opponents to the FED Res....
Y is the Rockefellers. Don't remember everything about post 142 but I do remember this in the discussion.
Was just looking through the old "Storm is Here" catalog - we were given so many crumbs by Q! I remember being on my laptop for hours and hours and hours every day doing research. Seems like forever ago.
Thank you for confirming. How did Soros replace family 'y'? Hmm, on Black Wednesday 1992 Soros made $1 billion by having shorted the pound, in much the same way Nathan Rothschild made a fortune on advance knowledge of Wellington's victory (described in Griffin's Jekyll Island and fictionalized in Russo's Trading Places). Did the Rockefellers get cut out of the innermost circle, get fed misinfo, and lose big on that transaction? Or did their decline happen later? If it's true that they were neutralized before 2017, that might explain why David was so eager to speak publicly, because he was trying to get back in. Do you have any research on those points?
I think when David Rockefeller died Mar. 20, 2017 at 101 yrs. GS step into his place and took control of N. America.
Rockefeller’s, really? I assumed Rothschilds (due to the “Y” antler-headed mask worn by one or a number of them at that masquerade party circa 70s, which pictures circulate).
So how does Y signify Rockefeller?
My latest on it appears below. Posts 133, 142, 189, 275, and 299 suggest that Q means Soros replaced "Rock (past)" and thus Rockefeller is family Y even though Rothschild also illustrates Y. So it appears Q links them even if he doesn't show the symbolism that makes "Y family" uniquely Rockefeller, because that may well be old news. In Q's narrative Soros did not "replace" Rothschild due to 133.
The link to which I replied suggests that Y means the horned Baphomet, and Owl represents the dualist opposite Sofia, thus these are taken as dual Satanic symbols. Baphomet goes back to the Templars, and early central banking might also.
I pointed out that the Biblical symbol of a head dividing in two appears in Ezek. 21:18-23 and includes divination, pagan sacrifice, the Y as a fork in the road and a freewill choice of destinies, and God's control over all these. This is useful background to the Y as horns of power and dualism.
::blinks::
I mistakenly thought I understood some things about the world
+++= Saud
++ = Rothschild family is still in the game
OK, I remember that sparked some research into who A. Merkel is.
I have some questions about this drop.
We know that the one who did not make it off the Titanic, who was against the Federal Reserve Bank being founded in the USA, was John Jacob Astor IV.
The theory goes that JP Morgan (a supporter of the Federal Reserve Bank in the USA, and the Rothschild's representative in the USA) called a meeting on the Titanic, and then canceled his presence on the ship (and also others canceled "as if on cue"). But Astor was not given the information that the meeting was canceled.
https://newspunch.com/jp-morgan-titanic-federal-reserve/
How much of this is real? Well. Liars write our history books. So I have no fucking idea.
i wonder if the black cube at Astor place in Manhatten is some kind of victory monument.
Just as is the cube-shaped impression in our New York City ground, at the 9/11 Memorial.
It is a Triumphal Monument, to the victors. And.... that's not you.
The idea of Eva Braun being Hitler's handler is a good one. I had not considered that. Very interesting.
Watch the wives right?
Yes. That is part of why I am amused I did not think of Eva Braun in this context.
Any relation to Werner Von Braun?
Others say they searched and found no connection. That means if someone says it's a simple connection that's probably false. Braun is as common as Brown, so I don't think this is so important.
Hitler briefly occupied the Sound of Music villa in Salzburg. Interestingly, it was not Hitler but the previous villa occupant, Georg von Trapp, who had been married to a relative of a war scientist: his first wife was the granddaughter of torpedo inventor John Whitehead, spurring his love of U-boats. If you could get Eva and Wernher connected it would be exceedingly poetic.
I think this is why I never thought about a possible connection. Braun is Brown, in both meaning and prevalence.
Brown shirt.
Lol. Another thing I had not thought about.
Haha.
"Von" just means "of". Von Braun means therefore "Of the Brauns". There are some more rules to this, but I am speaking simplistically.
As long as we are talking "conspiracy theories", I am guessing the Merkel conspiracy theory referenced here is that she is a descendant of Hitler.
That is pretty fascinating.
How would the world react if that were revealed?
Probably with a shrug.
People are really cowed, these days.
Btw, if the "official narrative" of Hitler unravels, then the "official narrative" of WWII unravels.
THAT would cause all Hell to break loose.
Operation Highjump and New Swabia, for starters. Then perhaps The Battle of Los Angeles. Graviton machines. Green Men. Vrill.
We would be talking about the unraveling of our reality.
It seems like we are living a Clown World so nothing is off the table.
Nothing can be depended on any more.
Check out Robert Sepehr on Youtube. I cannot validate (of course) what he provides. But I have seen what he professes and what I think I know to align enough that I am very interested in him.
And for the more ancient stuff, Sepehr is also worth considering, but you could do a lot worse than starting with Graham Hancock.
The world is not as you think it is, I suspect. And could be a lot weirder, in reality.
Battle of Los Angeles?
Yep.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Los_Angeles
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/battle-of-los-angeles-the-attack-that-never-happened.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qqR5dJOpRo
It gets weird.
REALLY weird.
Really fast.
I remember watching something about that on the history channel, I think. Yes.. This is how it was presented.
Edit to add: There are some videos of the night sky having spotlights raving.
Correct. That is the famous photo (of the spotlights into the air).
I'll give you an idea to consider.
Our government openly admits to Operation Paperclip. They do not hide/deny it.
So it is therefore an accepted fact that NAZIs were brought to the USA to run USA government programs. Werner Von Braun (creator of the evil V2 missile/bomb) led NASA, for example. Right out there in the open for all to see.
But it was just a few of them. Right?
Lol.
I think it more likely that we did not really "win" WWII. We had a "merger". The 5 Eyes (USA and UK) merged with the NAZIs.
So ... that makes your government (and by extension, the EU/UN) the 4th Reich.
One ended up running NATO, the symbol of which is itself a modified swastika, same as Tony Blair Institute.
Btw, the Swastika is a reference to The Ladder in the Sky.
The stars that point us to where we came from, or at least where our God(s) came from. In the view of these folks.
There is a reason why all pyramids point toward the Belt of Orion.
I just did a study on Orion. It and its belt are mentioned repeatedly in the Bible. There is astronomical and textual evidence that Orion represents Jesus as the Grim Reaper and the sword as his scythe (Revelation 14). There are two grim reapers in the Bible though, Jesus takes only the righteous and leaves an angel to torment the wicked. Thus in a sense the pyramids confirm our origin in the belt of Jesus. Jesus also claimed to be the stairway to heaven (John 1 speaking to Nathanael). The swastika used to be a generic peace symbol used by Jews and Christians alike, but I haven't seen it referred to as a ladder but merely as carrying on the taw cross (later tau); so even though the cross functions as a ladder I think that is a merger of two earlier threads of symbolism. Here is an older study on the deeper origins of the use and abuse of the cross as representing a snake on a tree, which is a very different story than the hexagram story.
I think the Swastika was indeed a symbol of Peace. But, really, it was a symbol of Civilization.
If my tribe is smart enough to see the Ladder in the Sky, then that means my tribe is an advanced society. So I greet and meet you in the Peace of knowledge, and hope you will do same.
That is why I think we see the Swastika everywhere.
It is all over Native American symbology, for example. Everyeveryeverywhere.
Please also note that the Reaper uses a scythe, as you point out, and is "Father Time".
Father Time = Cronos. Cronos = Saturn. The symbol for Cronos is Kappa Rho, "KRo(nos)". He is often represented as a Cross, or with the Kappa Rho symbol (astrology).
This is why you see these symbols showing up in "both places". KRonos. KRoss. This is a very old symbol. So... did Catholics subvert the old symbol, or did worshippers of Cronos overtake the nascent Catholic Church? You can do your own research on that. I just got done with one of our "frens" completely losing his shit about this stuff on me yesterday. So... lol... I'm over it. Or DM me. :)
I was shown that the Swastika is Electrogravitics. (this was so long ago I can not remember all the specifics) Imagine the design as tubes, with a globule of mercury in the center. When the device is spun up the mercury is split evenly down each of the 4 tubes. As it is spun faster it becomes self balanced, like a gyroscope, add to it specially wound electromagnetic coils that the tips filled with mercury pass by. Using magnetic pulses in the coils and the attraction of the mercury you can get this spinning super fast, which creates a magnetic inertia dampening toroidal field. This also makes the device defy Earths gravity. The Swastika might be the design for Earth based Electrogravitics, and needs additions to it for interplanetary travel. If I remember right it is only for Earth, thus why the symbol was shared with Earthlings from ALL areas and tribes and shows up in every culture. This is also why the symbol, and mercury has been vilified. Another PSYOPS to keep humans under the thumb of certain family's.
These folks delight in hiding their truths in plain sight. That is definitely something I have experienced.
I was only yesterday wondering if the swastika shape was a coil shape encoded and simplified. I am interested in non circular wound coils and their effects. Strangely I have found absolutely no references to anything other than toroids or other circle based coil technology (in books) so I could be barking up the wrong tree but it makes some sense to me that a coil that prevented by geometry of the coil one of the poles from expressing would probably have an interesting physical effect. I note research into such things is rarely done nowadays, at universities etc. they have stripped out all heavy power research departments. There are some amazing videos from the 60's showing the kind of kit they used to have for the students to play with. I like to say (as an engineer) nobody even knows what electricity IS. (they have simplified models of understanding, but few people know much about it beyond the maths of basic forms)
Why would mercury be vilified, other than it being toxic to humans? I never took chemistry in school. Also, would a device like that be able to keep balance in something like a large robot while standing upright? I'm not talking about Gundam-sized robots, more like the size of the Power Loader from Aliens.
Or is that where Satan and demons come from?
Just postulating...
Both Enki and Enlil are from the same place.
So, yes. A Demon is just an evil Archon.
Satan is The Big Black. Satan doesn't really come from anywhere. Satan comes from The Nowhere.
In the Beginning, there was Light.
Meaning, A Yin arrived to counter the Yang. As some would say The Urge.
And the King had a Prince. Some would then call the Prince The Demiurge.
This is the Gnostic view of the Universe. Why do I mention it. Because it is both "Christian", and also 100% adherent to all forms of religion that came before. There is a Sky God, and there is a Sky Prince.
Anu and Enlil. Horus and Osiris. Uranus and Zeus.
The Song Remains The Same.
So in this way, and under the "world view" of these ideas, the opposite of Satan is not Jesus. It is God. Light vs Dark. The opposite of Jesus would therefore be something that is not just The Big Black, but is more "Evil, but in this world."
And then we look at Greek mythology. Who is Zeus' counterpart? Well in many ways it was not a god like Zeus, but an older entity that had a different sort of power and status. Prometheus. So too, Lucifer is an angel, or perhaps we could say "Archon", who rebelled against his master (if he is an Archon, his master would be Anu, or Enki/Enlil, the sons who exerted Anu's will on Earth). Lucifer is an Angel. Not a "god". And certainly not GOD (meaning the God, aka YHWH or whatever your name for Him is).
Our history actually tells us our future. And tells us a lot about our present.
If we will but learn it.
Btw, NATO is the nice face of this organization.
Operation Gladio is the true face. Cosanostra-level spies and cutthroats.
Yep.
Most of these logos show the truth. They take advantage of the fact that you are not educated about what these symbols mean.
Perhaps my favorite is the logo of the UN. A flat Earth, encircled by a Corona Civica, most likely telling the truth. Rome rules the Earth. Oh and also that the Earth is Flat. Which is deeply amusing to me, in the sense that all of this stuff just becomes so fucking absurd I just have to walk away.
The Red Cross helped really really evil nazis escape. The ones that killed for fun.
Also the Catholic Church.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/38714362-killing-the-ss
Red Cross = Evil. Catholic Church = Evil.
Merkel is Hitlers & Eva Braun’s daughter, as is Ann Dunham (Obumer’s mother), Dalia Grybauskaitė & Theresa May.
https://www.humorousmathematics.com/post/rothschildism-the-illuminati-nazi-world-order-nwo
Edited ... Changed my comment because I found the source & corrected my comment to what is written in the article linked.
Btw, I am pretty sure that Theresa May's mother was a spider.
Just sayin'.....
Something like that.
This stuff is a rabbit hole with flames on all sides as you're going down. I can't get too close to it. It's a trip to crazy town. I am not saying it's untrue. I am saying I cannot take all of the conjecture and the half-baked "facts" and the like, sometimes.
The handler is often the spouse/partner so was it Eva Braun? (That's pronounced like "Brown" by the way.)
"Watch the wives", from Q Land.
Also notice how often there is a "second wife". "The Shadow Queen".
And then notice also how often all of these "women" are obvious transvestites.
Most of the wives in Washington DC are obvious transvestites. Go check out Chuck Schumer's wife. Or Anthony Fauci's wife. I think either of those wives (and they are just two of many) could beat you in an arm wrestle, if ya know what I mean.
Why is this? Fuck if I know. But I am guessing it has something to do with them all being Satanists/Luciferians.
"D or A" dead or alive. Perhaps the implication is that the records were fudged and that someone "lived" in the movie, it's relevant because they were reported as dead, but the opposite of the report is true and they actually lived. This would most likely refer to Astor, but Guggenheim and Straus were also depicted in the movie, et al. So it may refer to the spirit scene after all. The most famous man to survive was Ismay, the White Star managing director, but I don't think that's the meaning of the question. The question would then be, was a published survivor (male or female) later linked with other events such as the rise of the Fed? (Then the Hindenburg refers to Merkel?) My backup hypothesis had been that the death of Astor assisted the rise of the Fed by removing objection, but that doesn't seem to be the thrust. I searched the Q archive for answers on this one and got spotty results.
Dead or Alive makes sense of course. Nice analysis.
Boat A or Boat D.... Survivors....
These don't seem to go far. Boat D contained Hokan Steffanson, a Swedish businessman who lost a painting that he claimed at $100,000. Boat A contained tennis champion Norris Williams. No strong leads; I think it's "dead or alive". Turns out that without seeing this year's meme I correctly pegged the three alleged opponents of the Fed in this thread: Astor, Guggenheim, and Straus.
A bit better than my theories in this cascade is a reading I give elsewhere in this thread. Who lived in the movie (what man)? Astor, in the spirit realm, presumably. Why is this relevant? Astor was reported as dying. Opposite is true. Does this mean Astor (or a different opponent) was permitted to live by forging another identity? That could be followed up on.
Further, "Numerous notable and prominent people of the era, who held tickets for the westbound passage or were guests of those who held tickets, did not sail .... Those who held tickets for a passage, but did not actually sail, include Theodore Dreiser, Henry Clay Frick, Milton S. Hershey, Guglielmo Marconi, John Pierpont Morgan, John Mott, George Washington Vanderbilt II." Emphasis added. Q has special focus on the Vanderbilts' alleged Satanism.
U agree....
So this is the better version of my earlier response.
JP Morgan.
Nobody's biting though lots are nibbling, so I'll throw some more bait out to see if the piranhas here can skeletonize it. My guesses:
He says focus on Saud, Rothschild, Soros, and implies that Saud was neutralized by the removal of Alwaleed. Y implies Rothschild elsewhere, but here he asks for another specific link. Historically it would seem the strongest American family would have been the predecessor of Soros, and that would be Rockefeller. However, the connection to Y is necessary to establish. Y-chromosomal can refer to all men (Adam), but there is also scientific evidence for Y-chromosomal Aaron and Levi. The tie-in probably relates to WWII ....
The purpose of WWII was to finish the job; the League of Nations failed so the UN was created instead. Hitler was manipulated ultimately by Satan and proximately by New Thought philosophy (e.g. Blavatsky). Biblically, the western form of imperialism can be traced from the kaisers to Hitler to the Washington czars who took over from there. Was Soros then initiated? ...
I deliberately haven't tracked Soros and Merkel because I haven't been assured they have any power or interest. I haven't had solid data tracking Emanuel Macron either. Does she have reference to the Titanic? ...
The implication is that the Titanic sinking (on a day now celebrated by all American taxpayers) was a setup for the Federal Reserve and WWI by removing opponents of the plan conceived at Jekyll Island in 1910, which had representatives of the families Rothschild, Rockefeller, and Warburg. Women and children were "guaranteed" the insufficient lifeboats and so no men would have been expected to survive except by extraordinary reasons. Thus it's conceivable that several millionaires, starting with Astor, had been invited to die, or .... Not sure about the recording of names unless the implication is that someone, or several, survived by disguise as a woman and assumption of another identity who was not said to have. Perhaps Merkel had a Titanic survivor in the family who was actually a former millionaire reimagined? The connection to the Fed seems important ....
The Fed is a central bank and controls the American populace's labor on behalf of the moocher class by quietly creating money without laboring so as to achieve desire indefinitely without justice or sweat of the brow. The Fed was a Wilson approval but planned by the Jekyll Island crowd (who publicly pretended to hate it), and it is controlled by the cartel of other central banks, which were shown by Q to be largely run by the Rothschilds (there was something about the other two families controlling other aspects of life than banking). That part is easy but then we return to Titanic's link ....
Hollywood loves Titanic because it's a synonym of Satanic (same Semitic root). If so it's a Satanic ritual to have some die on behalf of others (always insufficiently), and also one to have some appear to die and then to return from the dead. I avoided watching the movie so don't know who is depicted as surviving who actually died. I don't think this is a reference to the scene about the spirits. Did they want to emphasize the legacy of someone who actually died by not depicting him dying, or did someone appear to live who actually died (the reverse of the scenario I suggested)? I haven't found out who this is. "Opposite is true" probably implies psyop deception was used ....
Who was to be killed in the Hindenburg explosion? It's a good match to Titanic because it was the first ("maiden") voyage of its second season and it was transatlantic. Among the 36 deaths none strikes a chord on first hearing. In conclusion ....
The overall picture is that a predatory class exists to support Satanic power and this is evidenced by history of power structures, connections of personal relationships, and control over disasters such as Titanic and Hindenburg. This would shock 99% who have trusted that leaders are much like them, which the leaders want them to believe. Possible reference to the parable of seven veils, each of which hides truth from 90% of those who pierce the previous veil; so first two veils (but this parable is suspect too because it comes via Oscar Wilde). Thus leading to Great Awakening. As people discover, they take fitting action (1776). I can't tie in the three final movie references, though others are clearer.
I would greatly appreciate others chiming in.
My grandfather said that he knew a man who survived the Titanic by dressing as a woman. This man lived in NC. I wish I had made a note of the name, but I was a child when my grandfather told us this. At the time, we were driving through a town, and he pointed out the man's house.
Yes. Blavatsky. Theosophical Society. And Tibetian "Green Men" devotées, etc.
The more you learn about this side of the NAZIs, the more you can see that they were a perfect match for our OSS/CIA crowd, who were raised on Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and all the rest of that Alastair Crowley crap. And of course I also make allowances that "all of that crap" could be totally real. Because I am a mud man of little understanding.
#3 same. I think these people are all the marionettes used by the people behind them. Who may not even have names, and certainly do not have passports.
#5 is correct. But these vampires have been trying to get the American colony back since 1789. War of 1812? Same fight. Battle of New Orleans? Same fight. Andrew Jackson fighting "The Bank"? Same fight. And over and over, until the establishment of the Fed, and then... no more fighting. Pure coincidence. I am sure. Back to being serious, it is my view that the real USA has not existed since the Wilson Administration, and really perhaps since the Civil War.
#6 is an interesting viewpoint. Satanism does demand some sort of sacrifice. It seems they like to see a sacrifice (à la Moloch) for its devotées' Earthly success. Just look at how many "Men of Reknown" we have in the world who have had children who died in horrible ways. And yes, the quotes are to denote to someone who does not know that appellation to go look it up (in the Bible). We had a Satanist sacrifice of innocents the other day, at the Travis Scott concert, in front of a giant spinning maw on stage (The Gate/Portal to Hell).
#8 The myth of the vampire.... exists for a reason. I am not seeing your reference to seven, because this interface blows goats. But I will remind my more learned friend that there are also Seven Seals. And Seven Chakras. And that the Sephirot is Yggdrasil (Tree of Life) is the Kundalini. The Song Remains the Same. Cue the Jimmy Page. If there is something specific talking about "veils", that could be Druidic stuff. The Feast of Samhain (pronounced Sawwan) is the Day of Souls (which we has the other day, on Nov 1). It is said to be the day when the "veil" between the living world and the "next world"/ethereal world is "thinnest", allowing for the dead and living to pass through to the other side. "Dia de los Muertos" in Mexico is essentially the same idea (and the same day), mixed with some Toltec/Olmec/Aztec salsa.
<< EDIT: I should add that "Druidic stuff" might sound like "Celtic Stuff". And indeed there is a lot of history to absorb in this space, as to where the Keltoi (Greek name)/Gauls (Roman name) came from. Probably the Russian steppes. But anyway... they seem to have had a "close cousin" sort of relationship with the Jews. For simplicity's sake, I will say they are Sons of Japheth and the Jews are Sons of Chem. However, there is to my eye "evidence" that the Druids of Eire might have actually been Daanites/Egyptians. "Tuatha de Danaan" and Princes Scotia.... once again, our history books fail us. >>
(Incidentally, I celebrated All Saints' Day by posting the 95 theses the previous 19 days at c/Christianity.)
Very useful data. Affirm green men, Crowley, vampires, prof Wilson, men of renown, Aztecs, and Scott decor apparently predicted by the Simpsons and Bosch.
Oscar Wilde popularized the idea that Salome's dance for Herod involved removal of seven veils. From there someone used that as a metaphor for piercing reality saying that only one in ten pierce each veil and only one in ten million pierce all (implying 700-800 people). With the Great Awakening we may increase those numbers. In Q's retelling, not piercing the first two veils leads to temporary sickness if they are pierced rapidly.
I see your connection between your names, but all are still partially veiled although sephirot is closest. The sameness of song will not help those who don't make the effort or accept the truth they are given; "Ignorant of law is not an escuse." We still have work to do.
Btw, my mention of Yggdrasil was more along the lines of "it's everywhere", not that it was some clue to unlock Q stuff or anything. I don't see a lot of Norse references in the comms from these folks (our enemies). I see instead ... "cabal speak". Kabal...lah.
Indeed, the primary Norse comms today are from the MCU, which is about as authoritative on the subject as Adventures in Babysitting.
Haha. I loved that.
The MCU's version of the Norse Mythology is so wrong it hurts my head. Haha.
Btw, I am looking at this with what I would call "new eyes".
We know that Hebrew is often, basically, a cypher. The symbol for "A" is code for a head of cattle, etc. They use language and especially the written language as a way of hiding the truth in plain sight.
Which leads me to ask, "why seven?"
I bet "seven" in Hebrew has a linguistic, numeric, or phonic significance I do not know. I just looked up seven in the tarot, and it is "The Chariot". Which is ... a big deal. Helios crap.
Sheva is cognate to seven: Oath, from Strong's H7650, and rest, from Gen. 8:4, alluding to 2:2. Completion and perfection, via rest. Geographically, Beersheba, pop. 200,000, or any seven-hilled city like Jerusalem or Rome. I recently discovered that the seven hills of Mecca are Qubays, Khandama, Quaiqian, Nour, Thowr, Omar, Thabir. The true chariot is described in detail in Ezekiel 1, where the main imagery is fourfold but the sevenfold spirit is tied in by Revelation 4. Just food for thought.
Sheva. Shiva. The Destroyer.
Also notice "the deadly virus that isn't so deadly" in Tom Clancy's "Rainbow Six". It is "The Shiva Virus".
And then there is the statue of Shiva at CERN. Because we want people who are supposedly carefully tinkering with the fabric of our Universe to have a statue to THE DESTROYER on their front lawn, right? RIGHT?
Also, "Shiva" (which of course is not "Sheva", but is phonically similar) is a mourning. I am guessing you already know this, but some of these postings are "for the audience", in a way.
https://www.shiva.com/learning-center/sitting-shiva/
Yes, this shivah, unlike the others, is directly tied in because it's a 7-day mourning.
Then we get to folks like Septimus Hanna, Anthony Sabatini, Shabbatai Zevi, and so on. It keeps going and going.
Very good catch. Seven days. Well done.
Why G God? Or 7 rhyming is heaven.
G as in the 7th letter. Hmm.
G is also displayed prominently in the Masonic symbol of compass. Which is, I think, hiding its knowledge (in plain sight) of "Sacred Geometry". 3 6 and 9.
3,6,9 isn’t what Tesla ment it’s base nine math 41x9= 369 hidden in plain site. Funny what happens when you get to sixty two . Add most of the numbers pre 62 when you multiply 9 x any number the number on the right of the = when u add them = 9 it’s strange.
Nicely done.
Tesla of course did not invent it. He merely "saw it".
The operative idea is that our universe essentially (and simplifying) has "two layers". The mundane layer, and the "sacred layer". 3, 6 and 9 are the numbers that are the key to unlocking the sacred layer.
This gets into some of it.
https://youtu.be/eckW_JcUDJQ
It's a form of math and indeed even a form of thinking that 99.99% of the planet has not ever done, and certainly was not ever taught.
Think of what the world would be like if we would teach our children this sort of "plasticity" in thinking about numbers. We would be living on Alpha Centauri, with 500 year life spans. And I am only half joking.
Ah yes. OK.
Let's not let that old (revered) faggot drag us down a hole. I do love Oscar for his cleverness, and I have actually been to what is supposedly his grave. But I do not consider him a history scholar.
Remember here (this is my "conjecturing") that "seven" seems to have meant "a lot" back then. Seven times seven, I rebuke you. His cattle were seven times seven deep. And on and on. It seems to mean "a big heap-ton".
777 is lamech how’ many 7’s in the Trump wins?
I lack the Biblical knowledge to know, really, the story of Lamech. I will check it out.
And, yes.
Much work.
Excellent work. This isn't my tangent, so I can't chime in, but also hope more do so. What you've said I've seen said before.
This is what is meant by Y.
Ah, the Lord freed me up to study alchemy earlier this year so I see the duality of gold/silver, sun/stars, and Father/Son represented; obviously due to the latter that cannot be a Jewish hexagram, also too acute. Q uses Y as if represented by antlers as well. Funny though that the idea of harvesting gold from base metals has been abandoned (and left to reputable science, where Seaborg did it from bismuth in 1980), while at the same time it does appear that modern alchemists still retain the notion of harvesting gold more efficiently from base papers (formerly their Ponzi-style treatises, now banknotes). Seems that in the past the alchemists had more Christians than Jews nominally, so I don't know that that has changed any.
Add: I now see that image also has blood/water dualism, which is odd because, even though the Johannine comma identifies this with the Father/Son dualism by no later than the 4th century, I don't think of the Father as the blood side as this illustrator does, because that would be Sabellian patripassianism. So that makes it even more specific to heresy from Christianity, and not to any use of hexagram for Judaism at that time. I still think that "Y head" refers to more than dualism or gnosticism, but if I review Q on the subject that may indeed be the ultimate root of where he is going with it. But he's also implying that lately there are Satan worshippers using two-headedness as a specific symbol of something and I don't think it's alchemy or gnosticism.
A quick check shows that Ezekiel 21:21 uses the Y imagery of a trivium or fork in the road, where Nebuchadnezzar used divination to determine whether or not he would take the path of destroying Jerusalem (he did), or Ammon instead (he didn't). This is "the head of the two ways" and is a potent symbol of choosing destiny. The king used idols and offered a sacrifice (consulted the liver) and his advisors thought that Jerusalem was the wrong decision, but they had all been sworn to obey the divination. Ultimately this will be behind the modern Y head but I'm still not clear on the immediate application.
My mom the other day said she can't believe how corrupt the media is nowadays.
I told her it's been going on since before she was born.
She is over 70
And where did it lead you?
All over...
Here's a site that talks about the Y family.
https://centipedenation.com/analysis-and-reports/a-higher-loyalty-the-family-y-the-cult-their-take-down/
I haven't finished reading it yet, but it's interesting. You have to go down the page a ways to get past other information to the Y part.
This is very good information and deserves to be higher on the page. So Y equals Baphomet and owl equals Sofia. This also makes me think more strongly that the Templars invented Baphomet and then attributed their invention to their opponents the Muslims (but we still have to account for the early existence of the word bafumaria for mosque). If Y was still the Rothschilds in this sense, Soros horned in on a large portion of their work and Rockefeller is now irrelevant. Perhaps that's the meaning of post 15, "Soros, Clintons, Obama, Putin, etc. are all controlled by 3 families (the 4th was removed post Trump's victory)."
But then post 189 repeats, "Re-read graphic (ex: what family did Soros replace (Y))." That seems more to mean that the plan has generally had three functions and that Soros picked up a function from the Rockefellers. The three functions are described in relation respectively to Rothschild, Saud, and Soros in post 275, "+FLY+ Banks control Gov'ts Gov'ts control people SA controls elected people. SOROS controls organizations of people. Ready to play?" (1) Banking and governments, (2) Politicians and bribery, (3) Organizations and networking.
Aha! I haven't seen 299 before in this light. Very important! It describes the same three functions in more detail, puts the "Sex/Children" aspect on Saud (because Islam has more experience with pedophilia?), and then has the word "Rock" exactly where we'd want to see who Soros replaced: "(past)(auth over followers)". This also has that Saudi Arabia "Controls (assigned) US / UK Politicians" and announces "Strings cut to US/UK". This aligns with Trump's recent statement that Israel (through Saudi Arabia?) controlled Congress but doesn't now. So that fits Israel into the picture too. This is very enlightening!
Henry Ford....Prescott Bush....???
I think David Rockefeller got kicked out of the innermost "focus" circle because he failed to realize that he couldn't recruit Aaron Russo who was secretly a Chr-- a person of faith. There, that's another rabbit hole entrance clearly labeled.
A Partial list of answers....
https://roserambles.org/2019/04/16/qanon-titanic-why-is-this-relevant/
I want the answers
Hahaha, I know some of this but not everything Hmm....
Alot to break down here.
Anyone want to take a stab at the first line?
See my other comment above.
Trace the (((bloodlines))). It turns out the bloodlines are jewish. Oy vey!
Would you and u/Doctor_Bees like to name names and draw evidence-based conclusions? I did my part. Maybe how Israel owned Congress 10 years ago but doesn't any longer?
Thanks so much, but I'm generally unimpressed with these because this is working to prove a different proposition, namely that Jews disproportionately get themselves inserted into positions of power; and it takes such a broad definition of "Jew" that it makes the proof relatively meaningless. This doesn't help me understand the bloodlines specifically of Soros and Saud, which is the question Q asked. Also I specifically asked for evidence-based conclusions, not just evidence of racial affiliation.
There is a big Satanic conspiracy, of course, as the Bible tells us, and it's refreshing to get its actors unmasked in real time, but it harms the research for us to distract attention from the common denominator of Satanism and divert it to only a portion of the work. That's why I respect Q for typically calling out Democrats and Republicans equally when giving long lists of evidence of Satanic infiltration. If we focused only on Democrats we would miss the big picture, and the same is true of any race or single family. But we know by inspiration that the big boss is the first rebellious spirit, now called Satan, and that is the (blood) line we need to be pursuing. So I'm still interested in answers to the questions actually in OP and in conclusions that go on the record such as extending the known sphere of influence beyond merely the Rothschild family.
Thank you for taking the time to properly engage (and neutralize) this red herring.
No one here is afraid to say that there are Jews in the cabal. Just as there are Catholics, Muslims, and probably every ethnicity on the planet.
I'd like that to be true of "no one here". I see two clearly defined groups, those who are unafraid to name Jews, Catholics, Orthodox, Prots, Muslims, and pagans, and who hope everyone else is; and those who are afraid to name Jews but who never name anyone else, and who pretend everyone else is.
You are missing the forest for the trees. You need to research the Khazarian mafia (also known in the last couple centuries as Red Jews).
Members of the cabal will pretend to follow whatever religion serves their goals the best. For the past few decades Jews have been a protected class around the world. The cabal has exploited this.
To return to OP, I found out that Soros, a nonobservant Jew, signed himself off as a Christian in his teens to escape persecution (calling 1944 one of his happiest years), and Wernher von Braun (not related to Eva Braun any more than other Browns are related) converted to evangelical Christianity with Billy Graham's help. So yes. They will be judged by their words and their deeds.
Nice try, but (1) the Bible says repeatedly that the synagogue of Satan are not Jews. (2) Jesus and Paul were circumcised. (3) "Sons of Satan" is a very limited term in the Bible for people who have contracted irrevocably into Satan's family and never refers to race but to adoption. (4) I just relinked a series above about how the hexagram could not possibly be the star of Remphan because the star was mentioned by Amos centuries before pentagrams and hexagrams entered Jerusalem en masse.
I'm pretty sharp on mathematical proofs and your links do not constitute one because they lack (1) a conclusion, (2) a useful definition of the class ("Jew"), and (3) a consideration of causes for the correlation. I've already given what ought to be the valid conclusion from your evidence, namely that "Jews disproportionately get themselves inserted into positions of power." This is admitted by all and to go beyond it needs extra evidence. Again, I'm looking for answers to the OP and it harms your case, and comes close to lack of supporting Q, to derail the question into a narrower field of inquiry.
While you were checking your other accounts and posting kneejerk links I was busy researching Soros's family and found it very interesting that he was an early proponent of Esperanto. That data point is worth quite a lot and has more behind it than lists of Jews in American politics. You didn't pick up on my hint that Trump says Israel no longer controls Congress; do you disagree with him?
You should make a post about this. I’m currently watching Europa and it seems like it ignores the fact that most of the thirteen bloodlines aren’t Jews. The Li family is Chinese, for instance. I feel like Hitler and the Nazis were on big PSYOP. It gave the deep state an ideology(Nazism) that pointed to some of the issues but instead of looking at the broader picture said, “The Jew controls the world”. Hitler and the Nazis functioned like false prophets in a way. The Rothschilds were allowed to take the blame for a lot of things and push the rest onto everyday Jews. Thus making people not look in to the other 12 families and what they’re up to. Now the Rothschilds can hide behind the very same holocaust they pushed for and act like victims of antisemitism. It’s despicable and Neo Nazi play right into their narrative time and time again.
Care to provide the reference?
We all are descended from Jews one way or the other. If you can trace your ancestry back to any of the important families in England, then you can trace it all the way back to the Jewish exilarchs in France and then back to Bible times. I have done this for myself and for many others.
God told Abraham he would be the father of nations, not a nation. Even scientists say that if Abraham has a single living descendant, then everyone on earth is a descendant.
If you have something of substance to offer, then by all means.
By coyly implying anons cannot handle the truth, you lead me to believe all you have to say is "but muh joos."