Irrelevant. They're using the money for their own purposes, regardless of whether they're going to an alleged "charity" or not. The money was intended for one thing, they're stealing it and using it for another. They can and will be sued for this.
First, who ever picked GO Fund Me as the conduit to fund this convoy is a legit idiot, period. You'd have to be living in a cave to not have heard how many times this agency has shut down or denied funding for various groups they didn't agree with.
2nd, everyone who donated needs to request a refund. If they don't refund they need to be sued out of existence because this is nothing more than a scam. They allow millions to accrue in the account and then declare it a radical group so they can confiscate it. That's a criminal enterprise and they need to be held to account. I'd bet the people running that shitshow are embezzling the funds.
They aren’t idiots. If you’ve noticed the last two years that literally every single bad group, organization, business, and government is intentionally being exposed and brought into the light. This is no different. This decision will end gofundme once and for all.
I agree. there are so many ways that doing what GoFundMe did can backfire on them...if everyone who donated said that they wanted binding arbitration and refused to be lumped together the sheer cost could bankrupt the organization. A lawsuit could destroy them because of discovery. if everyone had their credit card and bank card reverse charges it could destroy GoFundMe through return fees charged to GoFundMe through there Creditcard processor.
Maybe it was part of the operational plan to expose them. The movement is well funded and run w/ advanced logistics aka military likely. Same thing will happen in US.
Not everyone is neck deep in Q. They might see facebook pushing shit and just roll their eyes, then check in on their family. Its not the same for them.
GoFundMe might challenge those charge-backs as fraudulent (under the grounds that charge-backs might only be allowed if refunds are not an option), thus tying up your money until after the February 17th deadline (meaning they would have donated it to a 'charity' prior to you getting a chance to asking for a refund).
Apparently arbitration (or maybe lawsuit?) might be an option, which brings a lot of upfront costs to the individual (while incurring costs to GoFundMe as well).
It says funds will be distributed to charities but then says donors can request a refund. If they steal this money, I hope they're obliterated in lawsuits.
Go Fund Me needs to be shut down. That will only happen if donors on the conservative side stop giving money through them.
BTW, aren't there some internet savvy people who can volunteer to help the truckers find reliable funding sources, reliable alternatives to Facebook and Twitter? I'm astounded they have shifted all of their chapters to Telegram. Have they heard of Gab or Gettr? I hope they'll use Truth Social.
There will ALWAYS be a monopoly on people who don't understand technology. But if you just take the time to learn, you will discover something that has already shattered that monopoly. https://fediverse.party/en/fediverse/
Is ga.w being different from bookface not a strength? Remember this a technological and anti-censorship perspective. As the for the pentagon, most likely a coincidence. And even if it isn't it doesn't matter. It's an uncensorable system by design. You can build a server yourself using any of those platforms and no one can stop you. The only threat would be slander.
Take the time to learn. Copyleft licensing is another thing you should learn about.
Or just continue letting big companies decide how you will use the Intardweeb. I guess that's the only thing most people are good at.
This proves to me more than almost anything else I've seen that their funding sources have been cut. I've never seen derpstate scrounge for money like they are right now. taxes on everything, fines, graft, grandma murder, selling paintings and homes, trying to pass insane budget bills, printing extra cash out of thin air and then appropriating it to themselves, creating emergencies to access federal funding... and now just plain bald faced outright theft.
Blatantly stealing funds, trying false flags, trying to bring in the military. All for a bunch of truckers peacefully protesting. The desperation is real.
Honestly, this is getting a whole lot more visibility then Rittenhouses gofundme being dropped. I don't disagree with what you said, but I do think its good to get awareness out especially to normies that don't follow greatawakening.
We may have known...now everybody knows. your saying everyone knew but its pretty damn obvious they didnt when people still sent them 10 million through the fundraising sight "everyone knew" was a fraud. There were tons of comments from people HERE that didnt know. This was literally the opposite of short sighted. To think the organizers had no idea is laughable. It was done through gofundme for exactly this reason. They will start another donation account and i bet they still get all they need from it. Gofundme is done.
How did people here NOT know? This is where I found out about the numerous instances of unfairness GoFundMe had exhibited so that's a strange take. But whatever, hopefully this is actually the end of us using goFundMe for real this time.
If you are stupid enough to donate through them, I’m sorry, you are part of the problem! How many times do they have to show who they are, before we get it through our thick skulls?
I find it amusing that gaw commenters already pointed out this would happen (when it first started). It does suck though and I really hope gofuckme will get their pants sued off.
Read the fine print before ever giving hard earned money away. GFM says if you give money to a group or person that "violates" [their] policies, they can/will keep the money and give it to some other cause that does agree with [them].
You are the same people who donate to your Alma Mater, because there are still a few conservatives there! It’s like the biggest problem with Christianity, is people like me! No surrender! Just going to do it my way! Stealing defeat, from the jaws of victory!
There were supposed to be lawyers on the ground for the truckers correct? I may be mistaken by i remember seeing somewhere about it.
Donors should reach out to these lawyers that are working for the truckers. Then the truckers themselves should speak to the lawyers. Then the lawyers should file a class action lawsuit against gofundme and any elected officials by name and in their official capacity that are persuing it. Sue for relief, to receiving the funds. Hopefully they are good litigators. Sooner the better
Dont let them seal proceedings, and keep making noise and sharing on the ground media! You've got the worlds attention... Do not falter and God speed!
This is only step one in a rather drawn out legal battle. Each state has different consumer protection laws that will kick in and I would imagine we'll start to see some career-minded AG's filing suit. Very likely, the very lovely and tenacious Winsome Sears, for example.
This is when cryptocurrency can be of use. Set up a hardware crypto wallet for donations to the trucker movement. Allow the direct donation of any cryptocurrency. Publicize the crypto wallet address far and wide. Let the funds roll in, then cash out to fiat on any number of exchanges. If one exchange tries to black list the exchange, move on to the next. If that fails, contract directly with local stores and grocers and trade the crypto directly with them for goods and services.
Get out of the fiat system, and they cannot stop you! This is what crypto was designed for.
Every person that donated should file suit against go fund me, class actions can be very useful.
Can partisanship be argued here? Because what about "peaceful" bIm funds?
Irrelevant. They're using the money for their own purposes, regardless of whether they're going to an alleged "charity" or not. The money was intended for one thing, they're stealing it and using it for another. They can and will be sued for this.
So GFM is taking money meant for PATRIOTS and giving it to COMMUNISTS.
Seems to me GFM might be a COMMUNIST organization. They are certainly COMMUNIST sympathizers.
No doubt. I agree with you there. But these pos's love putting crap in their TOS to make litigation more difficult.
Possibly also do a charge back.
https://greatawakening.win/p/141YNMqBLH/httpgofundmecom-users-please-rea/
I agree...
Lawyer up.
Not surprising but awful that they even attempt to heist the funds! And yes, Class-Action lawsuits are very useful indeed!
First, who ever picked GO Fund Me as the conduit to fund this convoy is a legit idiot, period. You'd have to be living in a cave to not have heard how many times this agency has shut down or denied funding for various groups they didn't agree with.
2nd, everyone who donated needs to request a refund. If they don't refund they need to be sued out of existence because this is nothing more than a scam. They allow millions to accrue in the account and then declare it a radical group so they can confiscate it. That's a criminal enterprise and they need to be held to account. I'd bet the people running that shitshow are embezzling the funds.
They aren’t idiots. If you’ve noticed the last two years that literally every single bad group, organization, business, and government is intentionally being exposed and brought into the light. This is no different. This decision will end gofundme once and for all.
This move is their company ending itself.
I agree. there are so many ways that doing what GoFundMe did can backfire on them...if everyone who donated said that they wanted binding arbitration and refused to be lumped together the sheer cost could bankrupt the organization. A lawsuit could destroy them because of discovery. if everyone had their credit card and bank card reverse charges it could destroy GoFundMe through return fees charged to GoFundMe through there Creditcard processor.
100%, that money was given in gratuity, accordingly under common law, gorundme is committing theft.
Maybe it was part of the operational plan to expose them. The movement is well funded and run w/ advanced logistics aka military likely. Same thing will happen in US.
It's almost like a whole bunch of military recently got dismissed and has a grievance against the current system of government.
Interesting thought.
Also why are truckers using Facebook to organize is beyond me
Not everyone is neck deep in Q. They might see facebook pushing shit and just roll their eyes, then check in on their family. Its not the same for them.
I'll admit I live in a cave and didn't know about this until I read a gaw comment about this.
Do a Charge back instead of a refund.
https://greatawakening.win/p/141YNMqBLH/httpgofundmecom-users-please-rea/
That's a possible dis-info campaign, to capture all of the funds (to be donated to "charities") that would have otherwise been refunded.
See Syrinx posts here and here.
Summary:
GoFundMe might challenge those charge-backs as fraudulent (under the grounds that charge-backs might only be allowed if refunds are not an option), thus tying up your money until after the February 17th deadline (meaning they would have donated it to a 'charity' prior to you getting a chance to asking for a refund).
Apparently arbitration (or maybe lawsuit?) might be an option, which brings a lot of upfront costs to the individual (while incurring costs to GoFundMe as well).
Thank you for that info. I will need to check with my bank manager (Trump Patriot) about options here.
If contested and then the window is missed, can we attempt to chargeback again since they will not allow a refund at that time?
Thanks fren!
My pleasure.
This is all dated information, apparently.
They're doing a full refund now, or so they say.
No need for request for refund.
https://greatawakening.win/p/141YNP6h4D/gofundme-backs-down-on-the-reque/
It says funds will be distributed to charities but then says donors can request a refund. If they steal this money, I hope they're obliterated in lawsuits.
Go Fund Me needs to be shut down. That will only happen if donors on the conservative side stop giving money through them.
BTW, aren't there some internet savvy people who can volunteer to help the truckers find reliable funding sources, reliable alternatives to Facebook and Twitter? I'm astounded they have shifted all of their chapters to Telegram. Have they heard of Gab or Gettr? I hope they'll use Truth Social.
Outside of the US big tech seems to hold a total monopoly on every one of these new tech sectors.
Go fund me seem to be global with no competitor in any major country U.K. , Aus , Can etc.
It’s the same with Facebook, Twitter and the rest total monopolies in every country.
I’m hoping TRUTH is a worldwide launch and can be the start of encouraging viable alternative platforms.
There will ALWAYS be a monopoly on people who don't understand technology. But if you just take the time to learn, you will discover something that has already shattered that monopoly. https://fediverse.party/en/fediverse/
Is ga.w being different from bookface not a strength? Remember this a technological and anti-censorship perspective. As the for the pentagon, most likely a coincidence. And even if it isn't it doesn't matter. It's an uncensorable system by design. You can build a server yourself using any of those platforms and no one can stop you. The only threat would be slander.
Take the time to learn. Copyleft licensing is another thing you should learn about.
Or just continue letting big companies decide how you will use the Intardweeb. I guess that's the only thing most people are good at.
Aaaand based on the votes that's what people would rather do. This is how we lose.
Does givesendgo work in Canada?
This proves to me more than almost anything else I've seen that their funding sources have been cut. I've never seen derpstate scrounge for money like they are right now. taxes on everything, fines, graft, grandma murder, selling paintings and homes, trying to pass insane budget bills, printing extra cash out of thin air and then appropriating it to themselves, creating emergencies to access federal funding... and now just plain bald faced outright theft.
Blatantly stealing funds, trying false flags, trying to bring in the military. All for a bunch of truckers peacefully protesting. The desperation is real.
Hasn’t GoFundMe already screwed several people and groups out of rightfully raised donations? Stop using that shit- they’re untrustworthy
No one could have seen this coming!
What fundraising platform is the Canadian Freedom Convoy now using?
Does the Canadian Freedom Convoy have an official website?
Have they made any press statements?
I'll donate twice what I did to the GoFundMe thieving globohomos, but I'm gonna need some confirmation it's official and not just a scam.
Dig on Tamara she is bad news. Wexit party, Diane Francis as an editor of National Post, sits on Atlantic Council board ❤️
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/3cc4e00736171bb6d16b14eae31e51c46274e6513b540e3a0b2c481c8da16551.jpg
Why on earth would they have believed for a second it was a good idea to use gofund me for these truckers?
Because you have to show the people. This is will end gofundme and givesendgo will slide right in as a responsible competitor.
But we ALREADY knew Gofundme was corrupt after they took down Kyle Rittenhouse's gofund me donations.
It was extremely short sighted for people to not think twice about giving them a second chance. Like wtf.
Honestly, this is getting a whole lot more visibility then Rittenhouses gofundme being dropped. I don't disagree with what you said, but I do think its good to get awareness out especially to normies that don't follow greatawakening.
Fair enough.
We may have known...now everybody knows. your saying everyone knew but its pretty damn obvious they didnt when people still sent them 10 million through the fundraising sight "everyone knew" was a fraud. There were tons of comments from people HERE that didnt know. This was literally the opposite of short sighted. To think the organizers had no idea is laughable. It was done through gofundme for exactly this reason. They will start another donation account and i bet they still get all they need from it. Gofundme is done.
How did people here NOT know? This is where I found out about the numerous instances of unfairness GoFundMe had exhibited so that's a strange take. But whatever, hopefully this is actually the end of us using goFundMe for real this time.
Here's a link to get a refund from GoFundMe.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1489750789430157314?s=20&t=9LxbTBc7k5hvbKZ6auVYzQ
Do not request a refund. Contact your bank and demand a chargeback for fraud. It will cost GFM more money in fees and penalties.
Remember the people who run this group for the tribunals.
File a chargeback as mentioned my someone else in another thread. It will cost them more.
If you are stupid enough to donate through them, I’m sorry, you are part of the problem! How many times do they have to show who they are, before we get it through our thick skulls?
USE CRYPTO! PROTESTORS USE QR CODE PICTURES OF WALLET ADDRESSES ON CANADIAN POSTERS SO PEOPLE CAN SEND FUNDS!!
I find it amusing that gaw commenters already pointed out this would happen (when it first started). It does suck though and I really hope gofuckme will get their pants sued off.
Wow, I didn't know they could do that. Legal intervention needed. Time to start a campaign against GO FUND ME....
Sue gofundme
Go woke go broke, looks like gofundme just signed their own death warrant
Read the fine print before ever giving hard earned money away. GFM says if you give money to a group or person that "violates" [their] policies, they can/will keep the money and give it to some other cause that does agree with [them].
Nobody here gave money to gof*ckme. We know better.
You are the same people who donate to your Alma Mater, because there are still a few conservatives there! It’s like the biggest problem with Christianity, is people like me! No surrender! Just going to do it my way! Stealing defeat, from the jaws of victory!
CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS ARE EFFECTIVE!
https://qposts.online/?q=class+action&s=keyword
There were supposed to be lawyers on the ground for the truckers correct? I may be mistaken by i remember seeing somewhere about it.
Donors should reach out to these lawyers that are working for the truckers. Then the truckers themselves should speak to the lawyers. Then the lawyers should file a class action lawsuit against gofundme and any elected officials by name and in their official capacity that are persuing it. Sue for relief, to receiving the funds. Hopefully they are good litigators. Sooner the better
Dont let them seal proceedings, and keep making noise and sharing on the ground media! You've got the worlds attention... Do not falter and God speed!
This is highly illegal. Like where's the guillotine!?
You spelled wire fraud wrong.
Dispute every last one of those fucking charges.
I don't understand why people think that GoFundMe is honorable in anything they do. They've been dirty from day 1.
This is only step one in a rather drawn out legal battle. Each state has different consumer protection laws that will kick in and I would imagine we'll start to see some career-minded AG's filing suit. Very likely, the very lovely and tenacious Winsome Sears, for example.
Anyone know of another way to donate to the convoy that will actually reach them?
Really do not understand why people keep using GoFundMe. Their track record of pulling shit like this is pretty solid.
That said, Class action lawsuits work....
Never Ever trust GoFundMe for anything ever again. They are trash.
This is when cryptocurrency can be of use. Set up a hardware crypto wallet for donations to the trucker movement. Allow the direct donation of any cryptocurrency. Publicize the crypto wallet address far and wide. Let the funds roll in, then cash out to fiat on any number of exchanges. If one exchange tries to black list the exchange, move on to the next. If that fails, contract directly with local stores and grocers and trade the crypto directly with them for goods and services.
Get out of the fiat system, and they cannot stop you! This is what crypto was designed for.
They have declared war on the Canadian people. The dictatorship rises. This ends one way, and we won't be merciful.