Do you see how your fear is used to control you? Your initial reaction was fear of what others would think. That fear prompted you to make a post like this to try and stop the behavior that triggered that fear in YOU.
Change your mindset. Find the positive perspective in EVERY situation.
We already won the war. It is all about waking people up and having them come to the conclusion that we have a common enemy. This is about preventing a civil war.
People are confused right now. Q has all the answers. The more eyes the better.
I don’t think we are at that point yet. At least, based on the normies I experience in PA, people think that calling MAGA Nazism 2.0 is a fitting comparison.
I am not thinking negatively. I am thinking tactically. There is a difference.
I don't think it is a coincidence that Trump chose Q songs for his rallies and videos and I don't think it is a coincidence that the secret service started letting Trump supporters wear Q clothes at rallies again. This hand sign thing is obviously planned and coordinated. They want the attention. They want to wake up as many people as possible before the hammer falls so it is accepted by the masses and does not trigger unrest.
Q gear being permitted again is a huge tell. If Trump didn't want the attention, he wouldn't have allowed either the gear OR the themed music. Retruthing Q specific things - he's getting more brazen about this stuff. And the reason he can, is because patriots are in control.
This should be getting P.W to start asking more questions and they are the closest group of conservative/Trump supporters to flip into TGA. Glowies keep a tight lid on them, so it'll have to be something even more obvious than the two recent examples....
If it’s obviously planned and coordinated, I’d like to talk to whoever coordinated it.
Because it looks poorly executed.
And considering Q specifically mentioned NWO meaning (N)azi and not (N)ew, Merkel’s connection to Hitler, etc., I’d like to stay as far away from being seen as Hitler 2.0 as possible.
Believe whatever you wish. And I will do the same. The beauty afforded by a free country.
I went back and re-watched the entire Rally just now. The only time I saw the fingers pointed upwards was at the end of the rally when the "Q music" started playing at 21 minutes after the hour, 9 minutes before the rally ended.
Only a segment of the front audience on the floor were pointing and I think they were calling attention to the music! That's the section where a woman wearing a baseball shirt with "45" on the back yelled out "we love you!" And POTUS replied "I love you too" looked like she was sitting with her husband and son, who all stood up.
Plus, the hand signal during the WWG1WGA song offers a quick way for Team Trump to scan for levels of awareness among rally attendees.
Its also a curiosity trigger and conversation starter. Hopefully people have studied enough persuasion basics to start having those conversations without scaring off or turning off a curious questioner.
In fact, they're NOT thinking. They are parroting an opinion that they havent bothered to research to see if what theyre being told is true.
Without thinking, they have accepted a belief that was given to them by Media/Politician trainers. Without feedback from people they know, these beliefs can become accepted as facts that everyone knows are true.
Their belief that MAGA is Nazism 2.0 illustrates how belief can be the enemy of knowledge and understanding.
How someone deals with people holding insane beliefs that puts us all in GRAVE DANGER is up to them. Teasing, bemused chuckles and prayers that they'll soon return to sanity while NOT being swayed by their delusions typically work best for me.
Feeling fear or feeding their delusions by treating them as anything more than delusions to be pitied has only made things worse. For everyone.
I am not afraid of what they think or the names they call us.
I simply disagree that giving more meme fodder/embracing the false story because we know they’ll call us Nazis anyway helps our cause. I disagree that it helps our optics.
Now, if we are able to use the humor you mention to joke about how ridiculous everything has become to laugh some people back to the middle, I can see how that would be useful.
But that isn’t what I’ve seen making its rounds in Pennsylvania, nor on the mainstream internet, and with November coming up, it may not serve us to be continually compared to Nazis in the normie sphere.
Perhaps ponder why that is rather than believing that THEY are mistaken?
Perhaps embrace your user name, "GetsTheNogginJoggin" without adopting a defensive or dismissive posture. Or don't. Reject your invitation to go for a jog. Remain where you and your "Noggin" are comfy. However, please consider the possibility that, like sculptors, our choices create who we become and that at some point what we've created will be Judged.
Why are you so easily triggered? I am pointing out your behavior. I am not taking "cheap shots".
You should change your mindset because our mindset is everything. Literally.
We live in a holographic universe [consciousness matrix]. Reality is created by our collective beliefs and fueled by our emotions.
Everything is the Ether. The "ether' is conscious energy [God]. We are individual points of conscious energy [souls].
"The Absolute is conscious energy in infinity (i.e. without boundaries), it occupies every dimension to include the time-space dimension in which we have our physical existence but we cannot perceive it." https://youtu.be/bOYl1oqgDX4
Please consider that accusations that others are "accusing" you may be a natural defensive "projection deflection" reaction designed to offer you protection from the "need" to entertain uncomfy questions or ideas.
Noticing the choice to double down rather than to take a time out to calm down so self reflection is possible and fruitful.
Noticing that observations offered by others are still being framed as threatening personal attacks
Examples: "Why are you so hot to pile on me?" "People in this thread who've attacked me".
Please consider whats driving this decision to frame words offered by members of this community as threatening attacks on you.
Perhaps recall the famous adage "Sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me" unless I let them hurt me. This is true for everyone.
Perhaps consider the following questions: Who has recently chosen to insist that words are now objectively hurtful which has lead to the belief that words must be censored in order to prevent harm? Why the sudden shift from an independent adults internal locus of control to an infantalizing external locus of control? Why adopt the later rather the former
Finally, believing one can read the minds of total strangers well enough to know their motivations is a curiosity and question suppressing belief.
The media will always find something. I am done worrying about what losers think. That is what got us here in the first place, Let them cry and enjoy every minute of it. :)
When liars react by lying about something I'm grateful for the intel. Their lies tell me the action or words that triggered their lies are effective.
Their reactive lies and performative outrage tell me to do MOAR of whatever is triggering them.
Those who suggest pacifying demonic toddler tweens by seeking to avoid upsetting them may benefit from listening to those with more real life experience.
Tough Love Dad Love is True Love. Trolling is fun and informative.
Wwg1wga! It has a meaning. I get what you say but they will make memes out of anything. I see a bunch of patriots pointing to God the father. Do not fear the spin artists. It’s what got us to this place in the first place. Being afraid to call out evil for fear of being labeled. That ship has sailed fren!
Meh. It don’t look like that. Libs are stupid. They will make a mountain out of any molehill you give them. We are all MAGA terrorist already so stop cowering.
I get what you are saying. But by giving in you are giving up. Trump was told over and over that support for a border wall would be detrimental to his campaign with Hispanic voters. He did it any way. “It won’t look right sir”, “you’ll look like a racist sir,” they all said! He was right. Same here. A bunch of patriots in unison pointing one finger to the heavens. Wwg1wga? Let them spin it. It will only backfire once people wake up to see the truth. Never fear the truth. You are fearing the truth because of what it might get spun into. Don’t do that. It is what got America in this mess to begin with. Complacency and being afraid of being labeled, Christian’s and conservatives sat back and allowed communism to slowly creep in. Time to be bold and take risks. There is no greater reward than that of great risk!
Fortunately, you're neither my teacher or judge so your grade means nothing to me other than as an invitation to pray for you and for all who currently feel as you do.
However, since you enjoy issuing grades, as a professionally accredited educator who taught Masters level college courses, I'll offer my evaluation of your level of intellectual maturity, based on the comments provided.
" I give it a fail". Live and learn? 😘
😘 == meant as loving tease rather than hateful snark.
Everyone is still free to choose how they use the limited presents they receive.
Those with different survival instincts and threat awareness will make different choices.
Those who sense a storm and/or agree with President Trump that we are in a life threatening crisis right NOW will use some form of triage management to help them decide how best to use their limited time and resources.
Those who aren't aware yet or as aware of the crisis they're in or its gravity will likely make different choices.
Like neo antoinettes, they may indulge in offering mind "cakes" or engaging in modern versions of arguments that captivated the attention of medieval intellectuals, most famously, the debate over how many angels could dance on the head of a pin.
Not ALL questions are equally worthy of consideration. Some questions aren't just wastes of time. Some questions are intentional distractions/misdirections. Some are deadly traps to ensnare the unwary.
Personal guides: Alexander the Greats response to the Gordian Knot question. Christs responses to the questions posed by the pharisees He encountered. Psychiatrist Pecks wsrnings about which questions to entertain and why, offered in his best selling book, "People of the Lie".
If you think Trump supporters and Q researchers are sheeple or have herd mentality, then I don’t know what to tell you.
People engaging in similar behavior because they have a similar mentality and values is not always being a herd or being sheeple. This shouldn’t be hard to distinguish.
“Those are probably not the anons who have been researching Q for a while…”
You’re use of the word “probably” reveals that you’re making an assumption about people you don’t know. They could have been new to Q, they could know nothing about Q, they could have been following Q from the start.
You’re making a mountain out of a molehill over assumptions of your own making.
Of course some people are going to do or say things unquestionably, that happens in any group of people that have even a vaguely common goal. No argument there.
The question at hand is a) did the people pointing at Trump’s rally do it unquestioningly, and b) is their gesture bad/can it be manipulated by media. And in your OP exploring these questions you did indeed make several assumptions:
In point 1 of your post you imply that the pointing gesture resembles another gesture, then failed to specify what that gesture was. You assumed a) that there is a sufficiently similar gesture, and b) that we would know what this gesture is and connect the dots for you. Your expecting us to complete your own argument without defining explicitly what your point is. Unfortunately someone else in this thread assumed that the gesture looks like the Nazi salute. If the first thing one thinks of when seeing patriotic Americans is Nazis, then that’s a major red flag that the person in question has been influenced by Leftist propaganda.
In point 3, you imply that researching Q makes one a herd animal. This is an assumption. Also, while you’re not obligated to read all the Q drops, not reading Q at all because you think it’s “sheeple” stuff isn’t going to get you very far here at GAW.
In point 4, you compare the people at the rally to Ray Epps. I think I shouldn’t have to point out how incoherent this argument is. What Epps did is not the same thing and not at the same scale.
In point 6, you assume that normies and new people might get confused and turned off by the pointing.
In point 7, you assume that the pointing is retarded, again without explaining why.
Here’s the crux of the matter: who gets to define how symbols are used, and who has the right to get offended over them? Should Trump ban all Q stuff from his rallies since MSM already gets their panties in a wad over that? Should people be banned from flying the Confederate flag because the only possibly interpretation is that it’s racist? Should the OK gesture be banned because some idiots think it means white power?
My answer to these questions is no. The people who invent or most commonly use the symbol get to define what it means. And while you have to right to get offended and think it’s retarded, you don’t get make assumptions about what a symbol may mean or why people use it.
Lastly, the power of the MSM is overstated. They’ve called us Nazis and worse for years, yet our movement grows uninterrupted. More people distrust MSM than ever before. People are turning to other sources. We are the new media. We are more powerful than they are. It’s time we started acting like and not live in fear.
Also, before I forget, the use of “probably” and “I don’t know” do not mean that you’re not making assumptions. What you’re doing is using intentionally vague language to imply your points without actually saying anything concrete. Then you retreat behind the defense “I don’t know, probably”. It’s intellectually laziness. Make a concrete point and defend it.
Agreed. Conflation leads to confusion. Sometimes this confusion is desired but of course, that's not always the case.
Superficially similar =/= Same. Similar actions =/= individuality has been erased or sovereignty sacrificed.
Noticing a persons word choices can be very revealing. Personally, I prefer to view the info gleaned from words chosen as diagnostic data. In other words, as info that may give me insights into how I might be helpful.
Results vary and are actually unknowable, at least in this life.
I see this gesture at evangelical churches. It is NOT a way of deifying Trump, it is saying "the one way to God is through Jesus." Or put another way, it's a restating of the motto used in the Revolutionary War with England and King George, "No king but King Jesus."
Great to read that your curiousity was piqued; even if only for a brief amount of time. Hopefully there will be more curiousity piquing events and hopefully curiousity will last longer and longer so reactions become less instantaneous.
The gesture is, as you noted, evocative. Evocative == inspiring questions, as all Transcendently True things do. Q pointed out several times, "multiple meanings exist".
Of course, the Death Cult seeks to reduce everything to just ONE meaning; A meaning that the Cult insists only they have the expertise to determine. Interpretations not approved by the Cult pose a tHreAt to dEmoCraCy. Censorship is for your safety citize. Lol.
Well, I didn't watch the rally so I don't know what prompted it, but just looking at the picture floating around, it appears to me to be a bunch of people holding up the #1 sign. Is it supposed to be something else? It also made me immediately think of people at concerts holding up bic lighters. Beyond that, I would say it's a stretch if people are calling it the heil hitler sign. In that sign all of their fingers are extended, not just one. Also, in the hh sign, the arms are generally extended forward at or slightly above shoulder level. This crowd was holding their arms up at a much higher degree. So if that is the controversy, there actually are significant differences. However, I know leftists can seize on anything (or make anything up) so I can understand some concern. But I would brush it off with the points I made here.
Trying to come up with an "acceptable " gesture response that everyone can adopt? A gesture that will be uniform rather than allowing for differences that occur when unique individuals react to something? Interesting. 😘
My first reaction was similar that it looked a bit artificial and can have bad connotations.
Then I’ve realised 2 things:
I might missed similar thing from the previous 2 rallies (people say it wasn’t the first time) so for some of these people it was already natural if they knew.
Trump and team can be the one to initiate it if he wanted to have the best poll possible (without counting) to see in 5 seconds what % of the audience is Q aware. He just plays the music and all is clear.
It sounds like you're afraid of the gesturing being turned against us in memes and optics. And thats pathetic bro, you do the movement more benefit by broadcasting association than hiding it, regardless if that makes you feel less special and unique because you joined "a movement" or you're worried what the uninitiated or uninformed think or will judge us. I really don't care about their boos or disapproval, I've seen what makes them cheer.
What is the point, your defending your intellectual position as if it's the only valid reason and you dont want to be associated with "joiners". Spare us your narcissist elitism, you are part of the movement even if you think people who joined for reasons different than yours are less than. And for the record I also followed because I read the drops in real time on the chans, and followed the research. Doesn't make a difference to me if you did the same or you just saw a bumper sticker and got curious and found your way here. If the movement grows its going to pick organic shows of solidarity from the people brave enough to openly associate. Whatever it takes, nothing can stop what's coming anyway.
"Because I (referring to a GA commenter) don't like it that makes me".
You described, in your caption, your opinions as being " my instant reaction" ie not yet well thought out. You ended by inviting feedback.
Feedback around one of your quickly arrived at opinions, feedback that YOU requested =/= a personal attack on YOU.
The ability to "STAY FROSTY" is affected by ones ability to avoid conflating a guess you made with YOU. The ability to "STAY FROSTY" also depends on realizing that only you give words the power to touch you even if someone actually is using words to aTtaCk you personally.
"STAY FROSTY == Stay emotionally sober, logical, capable of critical analysis and focused.
Q shared link. You Tube. Official movie trailer. White Squall.
White Squall was based on a true story about how kids were able to " STAY FROSTY" enough to survive a supposedly mythical, deadly ocean storm.
Qs movie link offers guidance for those seeking to understand what Q meant when Q introduced WWG1WGA which is now synonymous with Q.
By embracing the feedback that you ask for then received, hopefully you will increase your ability to "STAY FROSTY" rather than losing your cool. 😘
I get what you're saying. My take: Group gestures can affect personality types differently. If someone is highly individualistic they are uncomfortable with herd like symbolism of any kind. More group oriented personalities can find such gestures more acceptable. Personally, I'm highly individualistic.
Attending rallies is one way individuals come together and bond as a team capable of working together a team. Teamwork is essential to survival when Storms hit.
Those who are so "highly individualistic" that they havent bonded can still be very useful but survival, when Storms hit, depends on there being enough people who ARE bonded.
Reference. Q drop. You Tube. Official movie trailer. White Squall. WWG1WGA.
Additional, non Q, guidance. Tolkien's transcendently true fictional trilogy, Lord of the Rings. Survival required an Alliance although quirks and contrarians eventually helped too.
There was a Trump rally last night. A group of people at the rally held up their index fingers in unison. The Mockingbirds and even some people here are claiming that this gesture is a "QAnon salute." OP and others are trying to figure out what the heck is going on.
I did have to do a double take, as in the small thumbnail, it did look like that. After I saw the fingers, I was like.. what finger is that? Lol Then I could see the pointers and thought, meh, and moved on.
While I don't think we Need more symbolism, I don't think this is that terrible either. Even if everyone just sat there in identical poses and moves to the democrat rally people, the media would find a problem with it to harass and lie about us. So, 🤷♀️
Bait offered. Bait taken. Hook, line and sinker. As intended. As Q has said many times and Q+ has demonstrated over and over again, " trolling is fun".
This "GIFT" will blow up in the demented Swamp Wile Es faces.
OP, it's not just you. I have been part of the Q movement since literally Day 1 when I saw the first Q messages on /pol/, and never once in the years since seen or heard anyone talking about making our own salute. Where did this salute even come from? Why now after five years when it's false flag season and the Deep State is become increasingly unhinged? Why do we even need a salute when we managed just fine without for five years? We need answers to these questions instead of insults and gaslighting in the comments.
As Trumps first rally ending song tried to teach those who would listen.
I wants =/= I needs.
Perhaps fret less and pray more. Let go of fret fuelled distractions. FOCUS on what President Trump has said is your mission right now, winning as many election battles as possible in the next month plus. WWG1WGA.
Your entire comment can be summed up as, "Don't ask questions and just follow along."
No, I am not a sheep. Most of the people here are not sheep. This entire movement is based upon asking uncomfortable questions. If asking uncomfortable questions offends you, then you are the one who needs to "fret less and pray more," not me.
BTW, it is now 24 hours since I made my original comment and not a single person has tried to answer my questions. The reason why is because nobody knows where this weird salute came from or what it means. And if you can't explain where it came from or what it means, then you shouldn't be blindly following it like a sheep.
Where did this salute even come from?
Why now after five years when it's false flag season and the Deep State is become increasingly unhinged?
Why do we even need a salute when we managed just fine without for five years?
100% paid Shill Stormfags will be right there at the very worst moments just when its most opportune for MSM to get that money shot and sound bite. At long last the demand for white supremacy will be met, and the Big Guy can start assassinating his political opposition.
Surely the individuality despising ,conformity demanding Corporate media will find out for you.
Meanwhile, arent there far more live or perish things to spend limited time and resources on? Like spending the last 50 plus DAYS of 2022s election battles helping to win as many as possible?
Could you please elaborate? I don’t remember from hunger games if that was intended to be a symbol of the people rising up (in which case, a good gesture), or the people succumbing to an evil leader (like a “hi hitler” style symbol, obviously a bad thing).
It was the people rising up against the dictators (cabal), using the mockingbird hand sign to show solidarity with the girl mocking and fucking up the current tyrannical system (aka cabal). So good.
Note the sour-looking lady behind Trump who raised her hand in a Nazi-style salute. No one joins her, but she was likely the one who gave the "go" signal to the finger pointers. There is a giant gap of empty bleachers near the pointers. They likely left their seats when they got the signal and moves to the front of the stage. I suspect they were all sitting together.
I’m not sure what you’re referring to, but was it perhaps at one of trumps rallies? I thought the finger-pointing to the sky was referring to God being the one and only sovereign Lord. Correct me if I’m wrong, because I did not watch the rally, and I’ve been a little bit slow here the last few days.
It was a way to acknowledge they understood the meaning of President Trumps musical choice WWG 1 WGA.
As with all great and true things, this one many powerfully evocative meanings.
Kill joys and energy vampires, as well as those unknowingly infected by the death cults psyop spreaders were, of course, triggered. Which provides valuable feedback and intel.
Doesn't hurt to raise the suspicion. From what I've seen historically, the Nazi salute was done right handed, full hand. There is a fellow who's doing the finger point with his left hand, which means he's predominantly left handed. I'll admit, it doesn't look the best but I would want to hear what Trump has to say on this. For me, it's not that big of a deal.
As I mentioned before, the candidates were carbon copy Republicans, and had nothing substantial to offer other than "vote for me because Trump said so".
Do you see how your fear is used to control you? Your initial reaction was fear of what others would think. That fear prompted you to make a post like this to try and stop the behavior that triggered that fear in YOU.
Change your mindset. Find the positive perspective in EVERY situation.
Q has said time and again that optics matter.
And that memes are very important on the battlefield.
I’m not about to give my enemy easy ammo by doing hand signals they can easily pounce on and use for their nefarious purposes.
Plus, it looks stupid. Like they’re trying to order from a crowded deli.
"There is no such thing as bad publicity"
We already won the war. It is all about waking people up and having them come to the conclusion that we have a common enemy. This is about preventing a civil war.
People are confused right now. Q has all the answers. The more eyes the better.
What part of painting a group of people—that are Trump supporters—as being reminiscent of Nazi sympathizers prevents a civil war, exactly?
You know, when the MSM is already fanning the flames of « they’re Nazis and fascists! Get ‘em! »
The part that it is a ridiculous comparison. Things are going to get more and more ridiculous until everybody is awake.
Stop thinking negatively. That [fear] is their only weapon.
I don’t think we are at that point yet. At least, based on the normies I experience in PA, people think that calling MAGA Nazism 2.0 is a fitting comparison.
I am not thinking negatively. I am thinking tactically. There is a difference.
I don't think it is a coincidence that Trump chose Q songs for his rallies and videos and I don't think it is a coincidence that the secret service started letting Trump supporters wear Q clothes at rallies again. This hand sign thing is obviously planned and coordinated. They want the attention. They want to wake up as many people as possible before the hammer falls so it is accepted by the masses and does not trigger unrest.
Last call for red pills...
Q gear being permitted again is a huge tell. If Trump didn't want the attention, he wouldn't have allowed either the gear OR the themed music. Retruthing Q specific things - he's getting more brazen about this stuff. And the reason he can, is because patriots are in control.
This should be getting P.W to start asking more questions and they are the closest group of conservative/Trump supporters to flip into TGA. Glowies keep a tight lid on them, so it'll have to be something even more obvious than the two recent examples....
If it’s obviously planned and coordinated, I’d like to talk to whoever coordinated it.
Because it looks poorly executed.
And considering Q specifically mentioned NWO meaning (N)azi and not (N)ew, Merkel’s connection to Hitler, etc., I’d like to stay as far away from being seen as Hitler 2.0 as possible.
Believe whatever you wish. And I will do the same. The beauty afforded by a free country.
I went back and re-watched the entire Rally just now. The only time I saw the fingers pointed upwards was at the end of the rally when the "Q music" started playing at 21 minutes after the hour, 9 minutes before the rally ended.
Only a segment of the front audience on the floor were pointing and I think they were calling attention to the music! That's the section where a woman wearing a baseball shirt with "45" on the back yelled out "we love you!" And POTUS replied "I love you too" looked like she was sitting with her husband and son, who all stood up.
Plus, the hand signal during the WWG1WGA song offers a quick way for Team Trump to scan for levels of awareness among rally attendees.
Its also a curiosity trigger and conversation starter. Hopefully people have studied enough persuasion basics to start having those conversations without scaring off or turning off a curious questioner.
Too little info is great. Too much is not.
"People think".
In fact, they're NOT thinking. They are parroting an opinion that they havent bothered to research to see if what theyre being told is true.
Without thinking, they have accepted a belief that was given to them by Media/Politician trainers. Without feedback from people they know, these beliefs can become accepted as facts that everyone knows are true.
Their belief that MAGA is Nazism 2.0 illustrates how belief can be the enemy of knowledge and understanding.
How someone deals with people holding insane beliefs that puts us all in GRAVE DANGER is up to them. Teasing, bemused chuckles and prayers that they'll soon return to sanity while NOT being swayed by their delusions typically work best for me.
Feeling fear or feeding their delusions by treating them as anything more than delusions to be pitied has only made things worse. For everyone.
I am not afraid of what they think or the names they call us.
I simply disagree that giving more meme fodder/embracing the false story because we know they’ll call us Nazis anyway helps our cause. I disagree that it helps our optics.
Now, if we are able to use the humor you mention to joke about how ridiculous everything has become to laugh some people back to the middle, I can see how that would be useful.
But that isn’t what I’ve seen making its rounds in Pennsylvania, nor on the mainstream internet, and with November coming up, it may not serve us to be continually compared to Nazis in the normie sphere.
I'm not a nazi amd never did the finger thing, but they call me a nazi anyway.
That’s like, your opinion, man.
Props for the Lebowski reference
Yea, don't listen to that dildo.
He comes around here and spouts his cult shit.
I saw the same cult abuse people in my family. Hes a sheep.
All they do is blame their victims when you call them out. He is no different.
Did not realize you think so lowly of me, Chronic
Lol, wrong dildo. You're good. 😆
Talking about Bass on his cult shit as usual.
Perhaps ponder why that is rather than believing that THEY are mistaken?
Perhaps embrace your user name, "GetsTheNogginJoggin" without adopting a defensive or dismissive posture. Or don't. Reject your invitation to go for a jog. Remain where you and your "Noggin" are comfy. However, please consider the possibility that, like sculptors, our choices create who we become and that at some point what we've created will be Judged.
Uh, it wasn't aimed towards him.
You need to "Nog your own Jargin", pal.
This is the most self aggrandizing thing I’ve read on this forum.
Wow.
Why are you so easily triggered? I am pointing out your behavior. I am not taking "cheap shots".
You should change your mindset because our mindset is everything. Literally.
We live in a holographic universe [consciousness matrix]. Reality is created by our collective beliefs and fueled by our emotions.
Everything is the Ether. The "ether' is conscious energy [God]. We are individual points of conscious energy [souls].
"The Absolute is conscious energy in infinity (i.e. without boundaries), it occupies every dimension to include the time-space dimension in which we have our physical existence but we cannot perceive it." https://youtu.be/bOYl1oqgDX4
You need to purchase a Bible.
This is all explained in the Bible.
You mean…like the wave?
Observing =/= "accusing".
Please consider that accusations that others are "accusing" you may be a natural defensive "projection deflection" reaction designed to offer you protection from the "need" to entertain uncomfy questions or ideas.
Hopefully helpful ferdback:
Noticing the choice to double down rather than to take a time out to calm down so self reflection is possible and fruitful.
Noticing that observations offered by others are still being framed as threatening personal attacks
Examples: "Why are you so hot to pile on me?" "People in this thread who've attacked me".
Please consider whats driving this decision to frame words offered by members of this community as threatening attacks on you.
Perhaps recall the famous adage "Sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me" unless I let them hurt me. This is true for everyone.
Perhaps consider the following questions: Who has recently chosen to insist that words are now objectively hurtful which has lead to the belief that words must be censored in order to prevent harm? Why the sudden shift from an independent adults internal locus of control to an infantalizing external locus of control? Why adopt the later rather the former
Finally, believing one can read the minds of total strangers well enough to know their motivations is a curiosity and question suppressing belief.
Beliefs + emotions == the enemy of understanding.
Care about what other people think and you will always be their prisoner.
He makes a very good point though. It is eerily similar to the Nazi’s salute.
The media will have a field day and only further blind sheep.
The media will always find something. I am done worrying about what losers think. That is what got us here in the first place, Let them cry and enjoy every minute of it. :)
Since someone here pointed it out. They likely will use it. We should just wait and see.
When liars react by lying about something I'm grateful for the intel. Their lies tell me the action or words that triggered their lies are effective.
Their reactive lies and performative outrage tell me to do MOAR of whatever is triggering them.
Those who suggest pacifying demonic toddler tweens by seeking to avoid upsetting them may benefit from listening to those with more real life experience.
Tough Love Dad Love is True Love. Trolling is fun and informative.
Wwg1wga! It has a meaning. I get what you say but they will make memes out of anything. I see a bunch of patriots pointing to God the father. Do not fear the spin artists. It’s what got us to this place in the first place. Being afraid to call out evil for fear of being labeled. That ship has sailed fren!
Yes!
Meh. It don’t look like that. Libs are stupid. They will make a mountain out of any molehill you give them. We are all MAGA terrorist already so stop cowering.
I get what you are saying. But by giving in you are giving up. Trump was told over and over that support for a border wall would be detrimental to his campaign with Hispanic voters. He did it any way. “It won’t look right sir”, “you’ll look like a racist sir,” they all said! He was right. Same here. A bunch of patriots in unison pointing one finger to the heavens. Wwg1wga? Let them spin it. It will only backfire once people wake up to see the truth. Never fear the truth. You are fearing the truth because of what it might get spun into. Don’t do that. It is what got America in this mess to begin with. Complacency and being afraid of being labeled, Christian’s and conservatives sat back and allowed communism to slowly creep in. Time to be bold and take risks. There is no greater reward than that of great risk!
Yeah, agree. We could do without it.
"I give it a fail".
Fortunately, you're neither my teacher or judge so your grade means nothing to me other than as an invitation to pray for you and for all who currently feel as you do.
However, since you enjoy issuing grades, as a professionally accredited educator who taught Masters level college courses, I'll offer my evaluation of your level of intellectual maturity, based on the comments provided.
" I give it a fail". Live and learn? 😘
😘 == meant as loving tease rather than hateful snark.
Everyone is still free to choose how they use the limited presents they receive.
Those with different survival instincts and threat awareness will make different choices.
Those who sense a storm and/or agree with President Trump that we are in a life threatening crisis right NOW will use some form of triage management to help them decide how best to use their limited time and resources.
Those who aren't aware yet or as aware of the crisis they're in or its gravity will likely make different choices.
Like neo antoinettes, they may indulge in offering mind "cakes" or engaging in modern versions of arguments that captivated the attention of medieval intellectuals, most famously, the debate over how many angels could dance on the head of a pin.
Not ALL questions are equally worthy of consideration. Some questions aren't just wastes of time. Some questions are intentional distractions/misdirections. Some are deadly traps to ensnare the unwary.
Personal guides: Alexander the Greats response to the Gordian Knot question. Christs responses to the questions posed by the pharisees He encountered. Psychiatrist Pecks wsrnings about which questions to entertain and why, offered in his best selling book, "People of the Lie".
If you think Trump supporters and Q researchers are sheeple or have herd mentality, then I don’t know what to tell you.
People engaging in similar behavior because they have a similar mentality and values is not always being a herd or being sheeple. This shouldn’t be hard to distinguish.
“Those are probably not the anons who have been researching Q for a while…”
You’re use of the word “probably” reveals that you’re making an assumption about people you don’t know. They could have been new to Q, they could know nothing about Q, they could have been following Q from the start.
You’re making a mountain out of a molehill over assumptions of your own making.
It is definitely happening again. Blind following without personal research.
Of course some people are going to do or say things unquestionably, that happens in any group of people that have even a vaguely common goal. No argument there.
The question at hand is a) did the people pointing at Trump’s rally do it unquestioningly, and b) is their gesture bad/can it be manipulated by media. And in your OP exploring these questions you did indeed make several assumptions:
In point 1 of your post you imply that the pointing gesture resembles another gesture, then failed to specify what that gesture was. You assumed a) that there is a sufficiently similar gesture, and b) that we would know what this gesture is and connect the dots for you. Your expecting us to complete your own argument without defining explicitly what your point is. Unfortunately someone else in this thread assumed that the gesture looks like the Nazi salute. If the first thing one thinks of when seeing patriotic Americans is Nazis, then that’s a major red flag that the person in question has been influenced by Leftist propaganda.
In point 3, you imply that researching Q makes one a herd animal. This is an assumption. Also, while you’re not obligated to read all the Q drops, not reading Q at all because you think it’s “sheeple” stuff isn’t going to get you very far here at GAW.
In point 4, you compare the people at the rally to Ray Epps. I think I shouldn’t have to point out how incoherent this argument is. What Epps did is not the same thing and not at the same scale.
In point 6, you assume that normies and new people might get confused and turned off by the pointing.
In point 7, you assume that the pointing is retarded, again without explaining why.
Here’s the crux of the matter: who gets to define how symbols are used, and who has the right to get offended over them? Should Trump ban all Q stuff from his rallies since MSM already gets their panties in a wad over that? Should people be banned from flying the Confederate flag because the only possibly interpretation is that it’s racist? Should the OK gesture be banned because some idiots think it means white power?
My answer to these questions is no. The people who invent or most commonly use the symbol get to define what it means. And while you have to right to get offended and think it’s retarded, you don’t get make assumptions about what a symbol may mean or why people use it.
Lastly, the power of the MSM is overstated. They’ve called us Nazis and worse for years, yet our movement grows uninterrupted. More people distrust MSM than ever before. People are turning to other sources. We are the new media. We are more powerful than they are. It’s time we started acting like and not live in fear.
Also, before I forget, the use of “probably” and “I don’t know” do not mean that you’re not making assumptions. What you’re doing is using intentionally vague language to imply your points without actually saying anything concrete. Then you retreat behind the defense “I don’t know, probably”. It’s intellectually laziness. Make a concrete point and defend it.
There’s absolutely no straw man in his argument. You are proving yourself to be impossible to discuss with.
No, he’s not, and that’s just plain dishonest of you to say that.
Agreed. Conflation leads to confusion. Sometimes this confusion is desired but of course, that's not always the case.
Superficially similar =/= Same. Similar actions =/= individuality has been erased or sovereignty sacrificed.
Noticing a persons word choices can be very revealing. Personally, I prefer to view the info gleaned from words chosen as diagnostic data. In other words, as info that may give me insights into how I might be helpful.
Results vary and are actually unknowable, at least in this life.
I see this gesture at evangelical churches. It is NOT a way of deifying Trump, it is saying "the one way to God is through Jesus." Or put another way, it's a restating of the motto used in the Revolutionary War with England and King George, "No king but King Jesus."
https://www.constitutionpartync.com/there-is-no-king-but-king-jesus/
Great to read that your curiousity was piqued; even if only for a brief amount of time. Hopefully there will be more curiousity piquing events and hopefully curiousity will last longer and longer so reactions become less instantaneous.
The gesture is, as you noted, evocative. Evocative == inspiring questions, as all Transcendently True things do. Q pointed out several times, "multiple meanings exist".
Of course, the Death Cult seeks to reduce everything to just ONE meaning; A meaning that the Cult insists only they have the expertise to determine. Interpretations not approved by the Cult pose a tHreAt to dEmoCraCy. Censorship is for your safety citize. Lol.
Looking at Mike Rothschild's tweet, I wont be surprised if they were his people.
Can you please share the nitter link to the tweet you are referring to? Thank you
I dont think I have the nitter link directly, but this was the post: https://greatawakening.win/p/15JmxJr6d1/mike-rothschild-compares-trump-t/c/
Thank you
Well, I didn't watch the rally so I don't know what prompted it, but just looking at the picture floating around, it appears to me to be a bunch of people holding up the #1 sign. Is it supposed to be something else? It also made me immediately think of people at concerts holding up bic lighters. Beyond that, I would say it's a stretch if people are calling it the heil hitler sign. In that sign all of their fingers are extended, not just one. Also, in the hh sign, the arms are generally extended forward at or slightly above shoulder level. This crowd was holding their arms up at a much higher degree. So if that is the controversy, there actually are significant differences. However, I know leftists can seize on anything (or make anything up) so I can understand some concern. But I would brush it off with the points I made here.
Trying to come up with an "acceptable " gesture response that everyone can adopt? A gesture that will be uniform rather than allowing for differences that occur when unique individuals react to something? Interesting. 😘
My first reaction was similar that it looked a bit artificial and can have bad connotations.
Then I’ve realised 2 things:
I might missed similar thing from the previous 2 rallies (people say it wasn’t the first time) so for some of these people it was already natural if they knew.
Trump and team can be the one to initiate it if he wanted to have the best poll possible (without counting) to see in 5 seconds what % of the audience is Q aware. He just plays the music and all is clear.
It sounds like you're afraid of the gesturing being turned against us in memes and optics. And thats pathetic bro, you do the movement more benefit by broadcasting association than hiding it, regardless if that makes you feel less special and unique because you joined "a movement" or you're worried what the uninitiated or uninformed think or will judge us. I really don't care about their boos or disapproval, I've seen what makes them cheer.
What is the point, your defending your intellectual position as if it's the only valid reason and you dont want to be associated with "joiners". Spare us your narcissist elitism, you are part of the movement even if you think people who joined for reasons different than yours are less than. And for the record I also followed because I read the drops in real time on the chans, and followed the research. Doesn't make a difference to me if you did the same or you just saw a bumper sticker and got curious and found your way here. If the movement grows its going to pick organic shows of solidarity from the people brave enough to openly associate. Whatever it takes, nothing can stop what's coming anyway.
“Y’all”? What is with this victim mentality, like seriously?? Literally every single comment from you in here sounds like a triggered liberal.
"Symbolism will be their downfall... just not ours", right?
Why do we need to use ANY symbolism at all?
"Because I (referring to a GA commenter) don't like it that makes me".
You described, in your caption, your opinions as being " my instant reaction" ie not yet well thought out. You ended by inviting feedback.
Feedback around one of your quickly arrived at opinions, feedback that YOU requested =/= a personal attack on YOU.
The ability to "STAY FROSTY" is affected by ones ability to avoid conflating a guess you made with YOU. The ability to "STAY FROSTY" also depends on realizing that only you give words the power to touch you even if someone actually is using words to aTtaCk you personally.
"STAY FROSTY == Stay emotionally sober, logical, capable of critical analysis and focused.
Q shared link. You Tube. Official movie trailer. White Squall.
White Squall was based on a true story about how kids were able to " STAY FROSTY" enough to survive a supposedly mythical, deadly ocean storm.
Qs movie link offers guidance for those seeking to understand what Q meant when Q introduced WWG1WGA which is now synonymous with Q.
By embracing the feedback that you ask for then received, hopefully you will increase your ability to "STAY FROSTY" rather than losing your cool. 😘
I get what you're saying. My take: Group gestures can affect personality types differently. If someone is highly individualistic they are uncomfortable with herd like symbolism of any kind. More group oriented personalities can find such gestures more acceptable. Personally, I'm highly individualistic.
Attending rallies is one way individuals come together and bond as a team capable of working together a team. Teamwork is essential to survival when Storms hit.
Those who are so "highly individualistic" that they havent bonded can still be very useful but survival, when Storms hit, depends on there being enough people who ARE bonded.
Reference. Q drop. You Tube. Official movie trailer. White Squall. WWG1WGA.
Additional, non Q, guidance. Tolkien's transcendently true fictional trilogy, Lord of the Rings. Survival required an Alliance although quirks and contrarians eventually helped too.
I have no idea what your talking about. Can anyone fill me in?
There was a Trump rally last night. A group of people at the rally held up their index fingers in unison. The Mockingbirds and even some people here are claiming that this gesture is a "QAnon salute." OP and others are trying to figure out what the heck is going on.
I did have to do a double take, as in the small thumbnail, it did look like that. After I saw the fingers, I was like.. what finger is that? Lol Then I could see the pointers and thought, meh, and moved on.
While I don't think we Need more symbolism, I don't think this is that terrible either. Even if everyone just sat there in identical poses and moves to the democrat rally people, the media would find a problem with it to harass and lie about us. So, 🤷♀️
I see your points.
But keep this in mind.
A narrative is a "creative" task. Meaning they could come up with anything.
I hear you, friend.
Let's see what happens.
I understand your concern.
"The globo homo media" was given "a GIFT".
Indeed they were.
Bait offered. Bait taken. Hook, line and sinker. As intended. As Q has said many times and Q+ has demonstrated over and over again, " trolling is fun".
This "GIFT" will blow up in the demented Swamp Wile Es faces.
Meep. MAGA. Meep.
OP, it's not just you. I have been part of the Q movement since literally Day 1 when I saw the first Q messages on /pol/, and never once in the years since seen or heard anyone talking about making our own salute. Where did this salute even come from? Why now after five years when it's false flag season and the Deep State is become increasingly unhinged? Why do we even need a salute when we managed just fine without for five years? We need answers to these questions instead of insults and gaslighting in the comments.
"We need answers".
No YOU dont.
As Trumps first rally ending song tried to teach those who would listen.
I wants =/= I needs.
Perhaps fret less and pray more. Let go of fret fuelled distractions. FOCUS on what President Trump has said is your mission right now, winning as many election battles as possible in the next month plus. WWG1WGA.
Your entire comment can be summed up as, "Don't ask questions and just follow along."
No, I am not a sheep. Most of the people here are not sheep. This entire movement is based upon asking uncomfortable questions. If asking uncomfortable questions offends you, then you are the one who needs to "fret less and pray more," not me.
BTW, it is now 24 hours since I made my original comment and not a single person has tried to answer my questions. The reason why is because nobody knows where this weird salute came from or what it means. And if you can't explain where it came from or what it means, then you shouldn't be blindly following it like a sheep.
Answers welcome.
100% paid Shill Stormfags will be right there at the very worst moments just when its most opportune for MSM to get that money shot and sound bite. At long last the demand for white supremacy will be met, and the Big Guy can start assassinating his political opposition.
I personally thought it was weird. Who started it and where does it come from?
"Who started it and where did it come from".
Surely the individuality despising ,conformity demanding Corporate media will find out for you.
Meanwhile, arent there far more live or perish things to spend limited time and resources on? Like spending the last 50 plus DAYS of 2022s election battles helping to win as many as possible?
It was just a question
I actually immediately thought of the hunger games.
Could you please elaborate? I don’t remember from hunger games if that was intended to be a symbol of the people rising up (in which case, a good gesture), or the people succumbing to an evil leader (like a “hi hitler” style symbol, obviously a bad thing).
Awesome synopsis. Thanks!
It was the people rising up against the dictators (cabal), using the mockingbird hand sign to show solidarity with the girl mocking and fucking up the current tyrannical system (aka cabal). So good.
I've seen this finger thing at rock concerts, it's not new, but they've already made the comparison on twitter. So, it's probably too late.
However, those who want to call it that most likely already believe it anyway.
Note the sour-looking lady behind Trump who raised her hand in a Nazi-style salute. No one joins her, but she was likely the one who gave the "go" signal to the finger pointers. There is a giant gap of empty bleachers near the pointers. They likely left their seats when they got the signal and moves to the front of the stage. I suspect they were all sitting together.
Nah, I didn't like it either.
Hunger games looking crap
I’m not sure what you’re referring to, but was it perhaps at one of trumps rallies? I thought the finger-pointing to the sky was referring to God being the one and only sovereign Lord. Correct me if I’m wrong, because I did not watch the rally, and I’ve been a little bit slow here the last few days.
Thanks after I made the post to you, I saw some other posts about it. Weird!
It was a way to acknowledge they understood the meaning of President Trumps musical choice WWG 1 WGA.
As with all great and true things, this one many powerfully evocative meanings.
Kill joys and energy vampires, as well as those unknowingly infected by the death cults psyop spreaders were, of course, triggered. Which provides valuable feedback and intel.
I think it's goofy I don't like it but I also don't think it's a big deal
So we can’t put up the number one anymore? WWG☝️WGA
I missed the context. Who finger banged who?
Love, not fear....
Doesn't hurt to raise the suspicion. From what I've seen historically, the Nazi salute was done right handed, full hand. There is a fellow who's doing the finger point with his left hand, which means he's predominantly left handed. I'll admit, it doesn't look the best but I would want to hear what Trump has to say on this. For me, it's not that big of a deal.
No, you're dead on tendie.
As I mentioned before, the candidates were carbon copy Republicans, and had nothing substantial to offer other than "vote for me because Trump said so".
The only thing that bugs me at all, is that islam has used the 1 finger to say "one relifion" (remember isis?).
Beyond that I took it as "we are one" or "I am 1"....
I’ve read all the comments, conclusion: op is a little bitch
Yes you are, and yes it is just you. I wish I hadn't wasted the 20 seconds it took reading it and responding to it. Not even gonna updoot this.
Oh boy. What did I miss?
Anyone got a link to this? I've been unable to follow the past few days.
Thanks!! Yeah very odd to see it seem so coordinated. As if they were asked to do so. WWG1WGA.