There was something to them dudes, although it was before the cultural marxist relativism completely took over. Sadly, I hear the forebears of a lot of liberalism in their work, but isolated from what happened subsequently, some interesting work....
While I think it's a lame argument in favor of child-free (which I am myself), some people are saying that globull(shit) warming is a great reason to not have kids. If we went to community farming instead of all the GMO industrial bullshit, we'd have a hell of a lot more food.
From everything I have heard, unlike entrenched swamp creatures with their own ideologies etc, Kevin is an empty puppet, so much easier to control by the WHs.
Maybe he's not a puppet at all, or he's a former puppet who had his strings cut.
I'm just spitballing. Would've supported any of the 6 instead. But at least he's trying to prove all of us wrong; but talk is cheap and this is still talk.
I am open, for sure, and you might be right. Doesnt really matter though. I am past liking and disliking personalities. As long as they do the right thing I am good.
I believe the Rules adopted by the House and the committee memberships already takes this from "talk the talk" to "walking the walk". A lot of it is now up to the committees. Jim Jordan especially. (Now I understand why he couldn't be the speaker btw)
It has little to do with his personality and everything to do with his record of support.
A rules change isn't United States policy. It isn't the passage, ratification and enforcement of new laws to protect us or the revocation of laws that harm us.
If one more dollar is sent to Ukraine, for example, that is proof that he isn't "walking the walk". The boy is crawling at best. We hope that he learns to walk soon.
"Kevin McCarthy, get right before Me now and move forward with what you need to do, and I will protect you. No more waiting on others to do the job I have given to you. Do not fear what they can do to you. No, stand boldly, and I will protect you from the threats they planned against you. I will also protect your family, so, go. Your green light is now, saith the Lord."
"This is still talk. Its the results that matter".
" Results" so far:
Kevin agreed to a Rules Package taking centralized control away from a select few and returning it to ALL House Membrrs. Kevin promised to submit that Rules Package for approval. Kevin DID submit the Rules package for approval on Monday as promised. With Kevin's support, the Rules Package passed with only one Republican voting no.
Kevin also promised to have a House vote on defending the recently hired army of IRS agents. As promised that vote was held. And it was passed.
Kevin also promised to have a House vote creating a Church Committee to investigate the weaponization of Federal Government against the American people. Kevin kept that promise. The vote was held. With Kevin's support it passed. Jim Jordan will head the Committee. Massie will be on the Committee.
Kevin also had all of Pelosis barriers and metal detectors removed.
Kevin was elected Speaker on Saturday. Today is....?
Re: Committees, re:votes that have to pass the Senate and/or hit the Usurper's desk, etc.:
None of this matters until something actually comes from it.
Rules package is superficial for the moment; neat, but this isn't U.S. policy.
Defunding the IRS agents -- Is that something that has to hit the Senate, or does the House have full authority over this? Also, expect challenges to come from this. It wouldn't be the first time that something looks like a win and then is twisted.
Jim Jordan heading a committee is pointless unless they actually do something with it. This requires enforcement and full utilization of the powers of the House to do so. Nunez was head of a committee and nothing was done with that.
Re: barriers and metal detectors removed; so? We knew that these were pointless anyway. No one was going to be caught dead after the 6th whether the detectors and barriers were there or not. This is virtue signaling, not some sort of substantial progress. Those were not going to be up forever and that this is a point that buys good will from you proves that.
You also forgot the conveniently removed mandates from the Pentagon.
By all means: Praise the good he's done, but don't be fooled into complacency. The Republican party has done this before, and his record is what you should be looking at first and remaining skeptical of him. If you aren't skeptical, you won't hold him to account. We desperately need accountability.
We ALL need to remember that we are giving him a chance because we've been forced to. It is not an excuse to throw all of our trust into a career politician.
Blind optimism absolutely does create complacency. McCarthy has yet to actually prove himself. The things that have been done right now are cool, but don't have lasting effects and haven't yielded any accountability or justice or protections for the American people. It has not brought back billions from black projects or funds for Ukraine. It hasn't withdrawn arms that are now lost on the black market.
But most of these things McCarthy supported. Supported aiding Ukraine. Voted to support quite a few things that harmed the American population.
So, a few good starts that may lead to results are not results in their own right.
Do I need to bring up how many times it had looked like we'd see justice from the likes of Trey Gowdy, Devin Nunes, the rare time we had a full majority in the House and Senate while we also had the Presidency?
Sorry, it's going to take a bit more than changing the rules -- which every incoming speaker does -- and assigning people to committees to prove that he is good.
If we don't remember history, and we keep repeating it from sheer hopium overdoses, that's absolutely complacency.
For the second line: Do you really want an honest answer? I've gotten into it with people who will sell hopium and backpedal and reason why they were still right when they were wrong.
Our side, on all parts, has boatloads of complacency. For every person that tells other people to get involved with local programs for example, there are -- literally -- tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions and tens of millions who don't.
So anyway: There is no amount of hopium, copium, energy, jabs, thought policing, etc. that will make me agree with McCarthy's being a force for good, until we see actual accountability and justice happen under his eye. That is something only he can do. Only he can prove people wrong.
That's the last I'll say in this thread. Too many people are willing to instill faith into a career politician, no matter how many times that is proven to be dangerous. I will not be one of those people, and I hope most of us will not be either.
I want everyone to read what he's done and ask themselves this:
"If the things he has done already are the only good things he does, and he does everything wrong tomorrow, or the next day, and he suddenly approves and assists in passing another 80 billion to Ukraine, are you satisfied with his performance? Is that good enough?"
Thanks. I appreciate the reply, and yes, my question was sincere. After all, all that you are sharing is some facts and then your opinion.
So yes, " Do you see complacency as a big problem here at GAW?" I'm after your opinion there, and I think you answered the question.
Just a few thoughts:
Does optimism require being blind? In other words, is blind optimism the only form of optimism?
Also: personally, I see a lot of, and tend to ignore or avoid with prejudice, viewpoints that focus on personality (imo) as opposed to more 'wholistic' perspectives. In this case, I would not be paying much attention to people who came up and said "McCarthy is a force for good now"
I would guess, on the whole (and perhaps this is ... overly optimistic kek), most folks here expressing a positive thinking bent adopt this positive thinking outlook on the premise that DJT and other good forces are/were in control (that is, had the determining influence on) the situation, or were able to utilize the situation to generate a good outcome. In other words, its a step in towards the right direction. By contrast, I really don't see anyone here expressing the view "this is great!! We're home free now!". But possibly, I just ignore and filter those expressions if they are there (aka don't assign attention).
The idea that some progress has been made, or that a good outcome was achieved as opposed to possible bad outcomes (which is not to say it was the best outcome - but who really knows what DJT and team are doing?), is where any optimism or positive appreciation rightly lies, imo.
Key to that is the idea that if McCarthy is a puppet, that puppet is now under different control. However, how true that premise is remains to be seen, as you are at much pains to point out!
Personally, I think that, for the troops, positive outcomes and wins, even if they are small, are important for morale and to reinforce productive energy. But above all, a balanced, integrated and reasoned attitude needs to be maintained if wins are to be seen for what they are, valued only in the context of the larger war that we are in.
So, in conclusion, I will plug my favorite remedy: ditch the hopium, get a prescription for hopermectin.
Remember the days when all we ever had was getting hit, non-wins and losses, month after month? 2022 was choc full of enough wins to ameliorate a LOT of the pain for the previous journey. Oh, we're still in for pain and some hard times, but it feels to me like the wins are coming consistently now.
I remember as a young teen being seated behind and above the floor, able to listen to the legislators. When we left, we got a Congressional Record for that day. My host introduced me to a Congressman, and he let me sit in the Speaker's chair!
Don’t trust this one at all. And the last place on earth I’d visit right now is DC. It might be the government seat but, from what I understand, it is not part of the USA and not covered by the rights afforded US citizens by the Constitution. When we see the J6 political prisoners released, maybe we can have some faith that DC is a safe place to visit. For now, it’s like Nancy Piglosi inviting people to visit Chinatown at the beginning of the plandemic.
Serious question. We like to talk about head fakes to get jobs done etc. Was the Speaker fight a head fake? A select few go all in and essentially hold McMarthy hostage so the world/left look at him in a more sympathetic light and less ammo spent on him from the left/msm so he’s able to maneuver easily to start dropping hammers they aren’t really realiy expecting?
Thanks, but I'm not quite ready to visit Washington D.C. - I'd like to see 'way more institutions cleaned out before I do that. Right now it makes me just a wee bit sick to my stomach.
"this is your government, you can listen in person"
Except when it's something we prefer you don't know. In that case, we'll debate in a SCIF. Like Bush/Cheney 'interviewed' by 9/11 commission.
Man, I hope this starts the D5. Cautiously optimistic
I think it was impressed upon McCarthy that this is this is the kind of leadership people want and that if he wants to be known as a great leader with all the trappings thereof, then this is what he must do. Or maybe they truly did wake him up. The polling showing favorably to the MAGA holdouts could not have been lost on him.
Wow....what does Trump have on this guy to make him turn into an actual politician for the people??
The Art of the Deal.
Art of War.
The art of life
Art Carney
I see your Art Carney, and raise you Art Garfunkel.
https://youtu.be/8uZgcz_WlAA
This was one of the Art options I considered.
There was something to them dudes, although it was before the cultural marxist relativism completely took over. Sadly, I hear the forebears of a lot of liberalism in their work, but isolated from what happened subsequently, some interesting work....
While I think it's a lame argument in favor of child-free (which I am myself), some people are saying that globull(shit) warming is a great reason to not have kids. If we went to community farming instead of all the GMO industrial bullshit, we'd have a hell of a lot more food.
HTTR
A Beautiful Mind
From everything I have heard, unlike entrenched swamp creatures with their own ideologies etc, Kevin is an empty puppet, so much easier to control by the WHs.
Maybe he's not a puppet at all, or he's a former puppet who had his strings cut.
I'm just spitballing. Would've supported any of the 6 instead. But at least he's trying to prove all of us wrong; but talk is cheap and this is still talk.
It's the results that truly matter.
I am open, for sure, and you might be right. Doesnt really matter though. I am past liking and disliking personalities. As long as they do the right thing I am good.
I believe the Rules adopted by the House and the committee memberships already takes this from "talk the talk" to "walking the walk". A lot of it is now up to the committees. Jim Jordan especially. (Now I understand why he couldn't be the speaker btw)
It has little to do with his personality and everything to do with his record of support.
A rules change isn't United States policy. It isn't the passage, ratification and enforcement of new laws to protect us or the revocation of laws that harm us.
If one more dollar is sent to Ukraine, for example, that is proof that he isn't "walking the walk". The boy is crawling at best. We hope that he learns to walk soon.
There are/were people that didn't like Trump's personality and didn't vote for him based on that alone.
From February 2022.
"Kevin McCarthy, get right before Me now and move forward with what you need to do, and I will protect you. No more waiting on others to do the job I have given to you. Do not fear what they can do to you. No, stand boldly, and I will protect you from the threats they planned against you. I will also protect your family, so, go. Your green light is now, saith the Lord."
https://www.jgminternational.org/prophecies/the-truth-about-your-capitol-oh-united-states
Powerful! 🙏🙌
Reading more tea leaves? I like peach tea, where I can buy them?
"This is still talk. Its the results that matter".
" Results" so far:
Kevin agreed to a Rules Package taking centralized control away from a select few and returning it to ALL House Membrrs. Kevin promised to submit that Rules Package for approval. Kevin DID submit the Rules package for approval on Monday as promised. With Kevin's support, the Rules Package passed with only one Republican voting no.
Kevin also promised to have a House vote on defending the recently hired army of IRS agents. As promised that vote was held. And it was passed.
Kevin also promised to have a House vote creating a Church Committee to investigate the weaponization of Federal Government against the American people. Kevin kept that promise. The vote was held. With Kevin's support it passed. Jim Jordan will head the Committee. Massie will be on the Committee.
Kevin also had all of Pelosis barriers and metal detectors removed.
Kevin was elected Speaker on Saturday. Today is....?
Re: Committees, re:votes that have to pass the Senate and/or hit the Usurper's desk, etc.:
None of this matters until something actually comes from it.
Rules package is superficial for the moment; neat, but this isn't U.S. policy.
Defunding the IRS agents -- Is that something that has to hit the Senate, or does the House have full authority over this? Also, expect challenges to come from this. It wouldn't be the first time that something looks like a win and then is twisted.
Jim Jordan heading a committee is pointless unless they actually do something with it. This requires enforcement and full utilization of the powers of the House to do so. Nunez was head of a committee and nothing was done with that.
Re: barriers and metal detectors removed; so? We knew that these were pointless anyway. No one was going to be caught dead after the 6th whether the detectors and barriers were there or not. This is virtue signaling, not some sort of substantial progress. Those were not going to be up forever and that this is a point that buys good will from you proves that.
You also forgot the conveniently removed mandates from the Pentagon.
By all means: Praise the good he's done, but don't be fooled into complacency. The Republican party has done this before, and his record is what you should be looking at first and remaining skeptical of him. If you aren't skeptical, you won't hold him to account. We desperately need accountability.
We ALL need to remember that we are giving him a chance because we've been forced to. It is not an excuse to throw all of our trust into a career politician.
Methinks that an optimistic and pre-creative outlook does not necessarily require complacency.
But hmmm.... Do you see complacency as a big problem here at GAW?
Blind optimism absolutely does create complacency. McCarthy has yet to actually prove himself. The things that have been done right now are cool, but don't have lasting effects and haven't yielded any accountability or justice or protections for the American people. It has not brought back billions from black projects or funds for Ukraine. It hasn't withdrawn arms that are now lost on the black market.
But most of these things McCarthy supported. Supported aiding Ukraine. Voted to support quite a few things that harmed the American population.
So, a few good starts that may lead to results are not results in their own right.
Do I need to bring up how many times it had looked like we'd see justice from the likes of Trey Gowdy, Devin Nunes, the rare time we had a full majority in the House and Senate while we also had the Presidency?
Sorry, it's going to take a bit more than changing the rules -- which every incoming speaker does -- and assigning people to committees to prove that he is good.
If we don't remember history, and we keep repeating it from sheer hopium overdoses, that's absolutely complacency.
For the second line: Do you really want an honest answer? I've gotten into it with people who will sell hopium and backpedal and reason why they were still right when they were wrong.
Our side, on all parts, has boatloads of complacency. For every person that tells other people to get involved with local programs for example, there are -- literally -- tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions and tens of millions who don't.
So anyway: There is no amount of hopium, copium, energy, jabs, thought policing, etc. that will make me agree with McCarthy's being a force for good, until we see actual accountability and justice happen under his eye. That is something only he can do. Only he can prove people wrong.
That's the last I'll say in this thread. Too many people are willing to instill faith into a career politician, no matter how many times that is proven to be dangerous. I will not be one of those people, and I hope most of us will not be either.
I want everyone to read what he's done and ask themselves this:
"If the things he has done already are the only good things he does, and he does everything wrong tomorrow, or the next day, and he suddenly approves and assists in passing another 80 billion to Ukraine, are you satisfied with his performance? Is that good enough?"
I pray the answer is "no."
Take care fren!
Thanks. I appreciate the reply, and yes, my question was sincere. After all, all that you are sharing is some facts and then your opinion.
So yes, " Do you see complacency as a big problem here at GAW?" I'm after your opinion there, and I think you answered the question.
Just a few thoughts:
Does optimism require being blind? In other words, is blind optimism the only form of optimism?
Also: personally, I see a lot of, and tend to ignore or avoid with prejudice, viewpoints that focus on personality (imo) as opposed to more 'wholistic' perspectives. In this case, I would not be paying much attention to people who came up and said "McCarthy is a force for good now"
I would guess, on the whole (and perhaps this is ... overly optimistic kek), most folks here expressing a positive thinking bent adopt this positive thinking outlook on the premise that DJT and other good forces are/were in control (that is, had the determining influence on) the situation, or were able to utilize the situation to generate a good outcome. In other words, its a step in towards the right direction. By contrast, I really don't see anyone here expressing the view "this is great!! We're home free now!". But possibly, I just ignore and filter those expressions if they are there (aka don't assign attention).
The idea that some progress has been made, or that a good outcome was achieved as opposed to possible bad outcomes (which is not to say it was the best outcome - but who really knows what DJT and team are doing?), is where any optimism or positive appreciation rightly lies, imo.
Key to that is the idea that if McCarthy is a puppet, that puppet is now under different control. However, how true that premise is remains to be seen, as you are at much pains to point out!
Personally, I think that, for the troops, positive outcomes and wins, even if they are small, are important for morale and to reinforce productive energy. But above all, a balanced, integrated and reasoned attitude needs to be maintained if wins are to be seen for what they are, valued only in the context of the larger war that we are in.
So, in conclusion, I will plug my favorite remedy: ditch the hopium, get a prescription for hopermectin.
https://media.greatawakening.win/post/H0UW5XF9.png
Thanks for the response, and appreciation for the counter-arguments to hopium you make an effort to inject into the discussions.
Complacency? As a big problem? Here at GAW?
u/#trumpnope
Seems GAW provides too many answers and news connections to be tagged as complacent.
Exactly... I'm giving him a chance because I have no choice.
I'm praying for him.... and all of them, for them to have the courage to do the right thing, not for money or fame, but because it's right.
Words are nice, we will know by their actions ...
Valid points
At least the house is no longer locked up like the Politboro...
There is power behind "comply or be fried"
Everything.
I have a feeling that "everything" includes some shit that is unimaginable.
I'm still trying to figure out this Saul-to-Paul thing.
Maybe he made Kevin an offer he couldn't refuse.
The year just started and I can't stop smiling. God is great!
Me too fren, me too.
Remember the days when all we ever had was getting hit, non-wins and losses, month after month? 2022 was choc full of enough wins to ameliorate a LOT of the pain for the previous journey. Oh, we're still in for pain and some hard times, but it feels to me like the wins are coming consistently now.
Yeah, well, can you release those who took the bait to come to the People's House on J6, first?
Unitl THIS is done, it is NOT the people's house!
https://greatawakening.win/p/16ZqiIjWOj/matt-gaetz-wants-to-exonerate-al/c/
100%. Not falling for this trap again. Screw DC.
I remember as a young teen being seated behind and above the floor, able to listen to the legislators. When we left, we got a Congressional Record for that day. My host introduced me to a Congressman, and he let me sit in the Speaker's chair!
COME TO DC ONE AND ALL
WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG??
Free J6 status for all.....
Leave your Water Buffaloes hats at the door.
You better leave your phone at home and wear a disguise
Don’t trust this one at all. And the last place on earth I’d visit right now is DC. It might be the government seat but, from what I understand, it is not part of the USA and not covered by the rights afforded US citizens by the Constitution. When we see the J6 political prisoners released, maybe we can have some faith that DC is a safe place to visit. For now, it’s like Nancy Piglosi inviting people to visit Chinatown at the beginning of the plandemic.
I vote we move our Capitol to within the USA, so Constitutional rights apply.
TY. Gave an updoot for "Our struggle is not against flesh And blood....." Ephesians 6:12. Edit: Updoot is also for the great comment.
Thank you 🥰
Serious question. We like to talk about head fakes to get jobs done etc. Was the Speaker fight a head fake? A select few go all in and essentially hold McMarthy hostage so the world/left look at him in a more sympathetic light and less ammo spent on him from the left/msm so he’s able to maneuver easily to start dropping hammers they aren’t really realiy expecting?
Maybe. I like the way you think
Thanks, but I'll pass. The last time I wanted to see congress in action didn't turn out so well...
Thanks, but I'm not quite ready to visit Washington D.C. - I'd like to see 'way more institutions cleaned out before I do that. Right now it makes me just a wee bit sick to my stomach.
I like what I am hearing, but honestly I think most of what they are saying and doing are symbolic.
DS hurdles include the Dem-controlled Senate and WH. Getting their bills through all that will be nothing less than a miracle.
Not getting my hopes up yet.
I feel like I'm living in upside-down world. I want so badly to hate this guy but if he keeps talking like this, I'm going to find that difficult.
Well, well, well.
Not until the J6 POWS are freed and replaced by those who put them there.
I'm starting to like this McCarthy guy...
wow, didnt expect that
But then I might get snatched up by goons and imprisoned without trial for 3 years.
"Really impressive. Kevin McCarthy has some set of nuts." - Frank Luntz
After getting them shredded through the wringer maybe he has grown a new pair.
It is going to be hard for people to trust this statement after what has been done to the Jan. 6, 2021 protesters.
Let's hope this redemption arc continues upwards.
I was so disgusted with DC that it's the only city I've not bothered to bring back any souvenirs from.
President Trump invited me to the capitol and it was a trap. If this guy is doing it, it must be no short of an overt threat on my life.
I might consider hanging back for the time being. Ashli Babitt's mother was arrested for quietly protesting.
Where's the old McCarthy?
I've been there and can feel the demons around me. Pass.
D.c. is a foreign country
He flipped?
I was wondering about that. Like him giving MAGS so many concessions was already suspicious. Now thisthis.
Epic moves.
Actually we’re headed that way tomorrow! Can’t wait.
"this is your government, you can listen in person"
Except when it's something we prefer you don't know. In that case, we'll debate in a SCIF. Like Bush/Cheney 'interviewed' by 9/11 commission.
Man, I hope this starts the D5. Cautiously optimistic
I think it was impressed upon McCarthy that this is this is the kind of leadership people want and that if he wants to be known as a great leader with all the trappings thereof, then this is what he must do. Or maybe they truly did wake him up. The polling showing favorably to the MAGA holdouts could not have been lost on him.
Can anyone broadcast the proceedings in the House?
WoW!! His lips are moving, but all I hear is Trumps voice.