If you are a subscriber, as I am, to the lore that DJT was tapped to help save the United States of America from an internal Marxist take over, orchestrated by the deep state, then you are in good company and I salute you.
Here cometh the red pill for the red pilled. DJT was in or on the periphery of the world we call the DS long before he was a blip on our radar for being an actor on the world stage in politics and such.
After exhaustive research, I find Trump to be the utmost honorable billionaire who ever skirted the realms of hierarchal power and villainy that exists in the multi-billionaire club.
Back to lore, the department of defense as an agency, is the largest employer in the world. The department of defense has also stolen 40 trillion dollars according to Kathrine Austin Fitts and is clearly a DS controlled entity.
And yet, Trump was tapped by hidden patriots, ghosts in the machine of the DOD and 5 branches of the military at that time, to run for president and stop the Marxist take over of America.
I believe that is not only possible but is what happened. However if you think some rag tag bunch of military patriots were the only ones supporting Trump you are mistaken.
If you can believe the former lore than perhaps you should take note of the lore behind the power.
13 families with ancient bloodlines own and control most of the population of this planet. These are the same individuals that own controlling shares in Black Rock and Vanguard, which in turn owns and controls everything else from Pepsi and Coke a Cola to Phizer and Moderna.
The lore continues that 4 of those 13 families disagree with the inbred bat shit crazy majority and think the world would be a better place if there were less controls and if the people where allowed freedom their prosperity and ingenuity would lift this whole planet up to a better world for all.
So if my logic holds true, Trump has been affiliated with and is aiding the minority families and interests of what is still the DS. I am still all in for Trump and freedom and even if I am siding with one faction of the DS vs another I choose the faction that wants to free the world so innovation tempered with love for all can lift us all up higher.
I didn't find that uncomfortable at all. I was expecting, from your title, more of the black pill.
lol, it got you to read it, right?
No, the red pill is the realization that even among the deep state, there are factions and like most presidential elections, you must choose to vote for Lucifer or Satan, yet you have free will to choose. :)
In this case, my hope is choosing between Lucifer and Tom Sawyer. Either way it is the deep state.
Which is exactly what probablyalexandra said: dark to light may not be what we hope, but two wings of the same bird.
Yup. We are witnessing two factions in the 13 bloodlines go to civil war with each other. Trump and his allies are part of the Golden Dawn and the people he is fighting are part of the Phoenix faction.
Let's hope Trump and his lot are saviours and not Judas goats.
Which 4 families are the presumed "dissident" faction within the 13? Name names.
I finally agree with you on something lol
This is the latest shill tactic. Infiltrate and start a narrative side track to split off toward ff cannon fodder for the fake news headlines.
I wouldn't say it is the "latest." They've been doing that for a long time.
True... it just seems like a heavy push lately.
I'm aware there's some sort of elite civil wat happening. But specifically 4 family's I never have read that or heard that anywhere.
Yeah some think the Kennedy's are one (or associated with one) of those families. Must be one of the 'good' ones. Trump fam made money in real estate. In real estate you have to deal with the local mafias & they are connected to the global ones but maybe they squeaked by without much notice (& when Donald came - he played them - I heard that Maxwell's father was surprised that she was able to get DJT's attention)
I always thought the Rockefeller’s, Rothschilds, Morgan’s, vanderbilts, etc were some of the top ruling families, but when I saw the supposed list of 13 ruling families, I didn’t recognize one of them. Are they that well hidden?
I'm simply throwing a guess out there, but I'm guessing that those are the more recent names they're using. They likely had different names 1000 years ago, and over time. Remember, we're dealing with people whose ancestors used to ambush, rob, kill, and take the identity of merchants. I wouldn't be surprised if altogether they've gone by 10,000 different names.
A qdrop said that one of the 13 is already eliminated. Anybody know which this could mean?
Dunno, but apparently the head of the snake.
if you look up the perennialist tradition you will gain some knowledge of their esoteric mindset
perennialist tradition is a umbrella term for those who believe that there is a divine truth that has been passed from outside spirits to Humans. This is the origin of Occult - essentially hidden knowledge that came from the spirits.
Research into this requires digging into different occult traditions, like Gnosticism, Hermeticism, even eastern esoteric philosophies etc.
I personally would suggest Mark Passio since he was an ex-priest of temple of Satan, and understands the esoteric teachings and some of his videos explains this from the Cabal perspective in overall terms rather than dwelling on a single tradition.
His Natural Law series is essentially him sharing what he believes this esoteric knowledge is, in depth.
I spent years studying this as well as black magic at large. Crowly, oto, etc. (Curiosity and boredom)
I wouldn't suggest reading any of it because it's all total bullshit.
Anyone telling you they speak with the dead, spirits, guardian angels, demons, etc... is mentally ill. Thats it. The end.
Take this statement however you want. I won't return to argue further.
Just curious - in all your studies did you actually go into any ancient scriptures? Works of people like Crowley is nothing but distortion of the knowledge to suit their anti-humanistic agenda.
I wrote a book of a response and deleted it to write another diatribe only to conclude; I've already said more than I really want to get into on this topic because once the lids off I've wasted hours of my day on something I dont want to talk about to begin with just by casually having a back and forth.
I like this video however, so I'll share it.
https://youtu.be/QMrqjFRUy5Q
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” - Albert Camus
Date a few witches for 12 years and then read the sources of what their bullshit is based on and you will know it is real and bullshit at the same time.
Jung once wrote of the power of belief and ritual, Ritual just forges belief into reality with or without formulaic notions of controlling demons or angels.
With the faith the size of a grain of mustard seed men can move mountains. JC
Yeah mark passio is the shit. Good stuff.
I would recommend archaix.com. Jason breshears. He spent twenty odd years writing his chronicon...data mining 1300 old books.bibles history books bible chronologies Mahabharatas riig vedas Egyptian book of the dead Tibetan book of the dead freemasons all Jewish and hermetical gnosticism sumerian and literature .no internet..and nothing from the last fifty years.
He has Mark Passions passion and sincerity...he was a southern Baptist Texan country boy jailed at 17 ..set out to find out the truth of his religion.
His videos are brilliant but he gets upset people are not reading all he dates and charts he has showing all the evidence.
I liked his evidence showing deliberate lies of Jewish freemason Zachariah sitchen and Graham Hancock too.
We need the truth more than ever right now
It’s interesting bc it’s almost two side of the same coin. Perennialist tradition or one world religion?
Perennialist tradition is not just one single belief but rather all the beliefs that are based on spiritually handed down divine teachings to humanity. How they apply that teaching is what differentiates the Humanists and Anti-humanists.
I've been saying for years that the best way to slay a giant is by getting another giant to do it.
When people say Trump is "one of them" I say "Of course he is. If he wasn't he could never get close enough to destroy them." They had us dead to rights but then he became president and the whole system - political, media, corporate, medical, military - all tried to stop him. That says they fear him. He may be "one of them" but what he's doing to the rest of them is clearly making them panic.
We can't say 100% what his actual intention and loyalties are, but there is only one other option - letting "Them" continue to do whatever the hell they want without consequence.
Or you could say sometimes you need a Troll to slay a Giant. Trump is best troll of all. I mean that as a compliment.
Trump is certainly a troll king.
Trump is something like Moses. Moses was "one of them". Yet he was used to destroy the powers of his time.
You are correct. The world has always been run by the 13 families on behalf of the entities that shall remain nameless. Not all the families have been anti-humanists. Infact there was an equal division between them and the humanists for most of human history. After the London fire in 1666, leading to establishment of city of London, and through all the turmoils like french revolution, civil war, world wars etc, leading all the way to JFK assassination, the anti-humanitarians assumed they had won.
However the humanist faction not only survived but went underground and created an elaborate plan to defeat this for once and for all. This plan required people to wake up and understand the true nature of the anti-humanists. This was the only way to liberate Humanity for ever, otherwise the same techniques would be used again and again to bring us back to this point.
It is impossible to wake people up by telling how bad these people are, because their ideas are sugar coated in things like "equality", "democracy", "diversity" etc.
So they reluctantly decided that the anti-humanists need to be allowed to take the humanity to the precipice to expose without a shadow of doubt what their plans were. I think everything since JFK has been part of this operation. At each point the Humanists tried to reduce the damage while making sure the Anti-Humanists believed they were winning, up until Trump when the final phase was implemented.
I completely agree and reached the same conclusion in my studies.
Interesting. Might you have links/backup for further research/reading about this?
Its the distillation of everything I have come to believe through this truth-seeking journey starting from the first Q drop.
And sugar coated in-fact, too. Of course something that tastes sweet would be highly addictive and bad for you.
My question then would be what is the vision of the world from the humanists? When all the dust settles what does the world look like?
One could not say without understanding the true state of technology / knowledge / spirituality which has been kept secret from the masses. The end goal of the humanists would be to open up this knowledge to everyone. What the world looks like after that - depends on what this knowledge is.
Humanists are not heros. Humanists are self-focused, self-congratulatory, self- "evolved," and to a person, self-important atheists.
Chose a different term for the heros who are the historical opposing force to the "13"
Where you getting this from?
Humanism. It is all about mankind removed from a Supreme God at the center of all existence who as the objective standard defines "good." Humanism is at the foundation of every self-focused, self-congratulatory, self- "evolved," and to a person, self-important atheist who ever led God-less governments which brought death and slavery to the masses -- all for the common good
Start here and dig further.
https://humanists.uk/wp-content/uploads/humanist-perspectives-in-religious-education-key-stages-3-4-and-5.pdf
I knew that this definition of Humanism was fairly new bastardization of the word, but turns out the original definition of the word is not great either.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/humanist
It's a really good term though, esp when talking to newer folk who dont know/like terms like Cabal, and who tune off when you say "Good vs Evil".
Any alternative suggestions that work as great for this purpose?
White Hats. It's become a fairly established term in this age, and the connotation for its usage has an historical reference which remains unchanged. Easy for normies to understand.
My experience with normies is that they can easily associate White Hats with military people, even Trump and his team etc, but not with Elites. It always causes confusion. It needs to be based on the philosophy that there are Elites who believe in uplifting Humanity vs Elites who believe in enslaving Humanity.
"White hats" is a universally recognized reference to "the good guys." The military association we here may have with that term is valid as is our association with the term with the Trump team. Most normies are not as well engaged in MAGA discousrse as we are and they are more likley to associate the term with "the good guys" who always came to the rescue- like in spaghetti Westerns - from where this depiction originates.
So I am still waiting for sauce about the 4 families of the 13 who might be the closet "goodguys" - or at least the rebellious force from within then Cabal.
.....Try 1890 👀
I have the book. Dasting.
Is it a modern reprint, or something old? Because I wouldn't doubt that "people" edit old books without putting that information in. Like how did nazism/fascism magically become right-wing? It's like 'sick' originally being used to describe someone that is ill, also taking on a new meaning a few decades ago thanks to the skater/rock culture, now linguistically meaning something awesome.
Isn't there another one like "Baron Trump's Time-Traveling Adventure?"
Very cool summary of the essence of much material. Thanks for posting. 👍
Who says 4 families of the 13 give a rat's rectum about people being allowed freedom so their prosperity and ingenuity would lift this whole planet up to a better world for all?
I did, I could tell you more but then I'd have to kill you, which would totally be a bummer.
In other words, bullshit?
Maybe. Maybe not.
It's fun to watch though, like an exciting TV series that never stops shocking you even when you thought you had it all figured out.
Open your mind dude. Its secret and only the bravest can handle the truth! You're chosen and you know it. Now sharpen your sword valiant knight!
That honestly would probably cause a lot of people to have a mental crisis, because we've been brainwashed to believe that the Nazis were the pinnacle of evil, that no government/government leader, or group of people before or since has done anything near as bad to people. Nevermind that communism killed around 100 million people during the previous century.
How do you think I felt when I finally wrapped my head around it? Once you realize this terrible truth, you start to question everything you’ve ever been taught.
Finally accepting 9/11 was an inside job basically killed the last of my nerves, so learning that all the debauchery during Weimar Germany was caused by "someone," then learning that Germany's economy skyrocketed when the central bank was removed, well, it didn't hurt. It was more like a "son of a bitch" kind of thing.
History tends to rhyme if not repeat itself. What happened in Germany, is happening and WILL happen in the USA, with Trump as our “Caesar”.
https://archive.org/details/europa_the_last_battle_full
After watching Europa, I believe what you say is correct. And backed by plenty of evidence.
I agree. I have always been stumped by the fact that Hitler launched the war with his blitzkrieg. Why? Also, the documentaries showing how he is a descendant of a Rothschild suggest that he was a cabal instrument. So, there are a lot of conflicting truths that make it confusing.
This could be the reason why your couch-surfing friend has better luck
Fritz Springmeier wrote about the 13 bloodlines of the Illuminati. The book is available at the CIA library website: https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/FC/FC2F5371043C48FDD95AEDE7B8A49624_Springmeier.-.Bloodlines.of.the.Illuminati.R.pdf
According to the book, the 13 families are: Astor, Bundy, Collins, DuPont, Freeman, Kennedy, Li, Onassis, Rockefeller, Russell, Van Duyn, Merovingian, and Rothschild.
If the OP's theory is correct, the Kennedys would be among the 4 minority families. Onassis would be another one because Jackie Kennedy married into the family after JFK's assassination. Astor is another since John Jacob Astor opposed the Federal Reserve and died with the Titanic. I don't know the fourth.
There's a very interesting yet credible take on JFK from the book:
Us fighting the wrong enemy during WWII aside, what invasion that we did was legitimate? Why were we in Korea, Vietnam, Panama, Mogadishu, Cuba?
If you understand we are reincarnated over and over then we have at one time reincarnated into a deep state family...so it's not surprising that some born into one of those families have gathered enough intuition wisdom and empathy to want to use their position to fight to better the world. Trump believes in the power of positive thinking and his life shows he doesn't use his position to be a tyrant
I have struggled myself in the past about trump before forming this conclusion
I believe that he has been privy to the depths of depravity of the DS (ruling families), being who he is and where he comes from, and that is why he is such a passionate opponent to it. He knows, and he chose not only to reject it, but to fight against it. He knows how truly fucked up and evil the incestuous ancient rulers are, and he decided it was time to stop them, and it would take someone with wealth and power and inside information to do it. This is no red-pill for me, it was a logical assumption.
My thoughts exactly. I always felt like this has always been a deep state civil war. One side that doesn’t give a fuck about us and another side that REALLY don’t give a fuck about us.
The defense budget is for sure a big grift. If war truly cost what we are paying, the world would be at permanent peace. Because everyone else is too poor to afford to fight war. The annual budget is at damn near a million dollars per active duty troop.
I have loved planes since I was a kid. Especially fighters. You know what is fake n gay af? The price we paid for f35s. Over a damn trillion dollars…sorry, calling bullshit. That plane doesn’t cost that much. And it isn’t a monumental leap over the f22. Plus, it sounds like it still doesn’t work as advertised.
4 families?
I imagine Astor is one of them?
Yeah gotta figure Astors were big mad after they did him wrong on the Titanic
The deep state cabal seems to be the boston brahmin families which are connected to the vatican/the black nobility families and perhaps the Wittelsbachs. Whoever was behind Oliver Cromwell is behind the deep state.
Trump seems to be on the side of the Hapsburgs and the Wettins (Queen Elizabeth II/King Charles). Interestingly Charles V of the Hapsburgs motto was 'Plus Ultra' which is written on tiles at Mar a Lago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE7V7aVv6yg
Which four?
kek, yeah it's one of those things where if you tug on my loose strings the whole fabric for everything unravels
Who are the 4 families in your opinion? I am not sure ive ever seen the full 13 family list. I only know a few like getty, rockefeller, vanderbilt, that french one Payseur, i think medici, sax-coburg, rothschild, house of saud....i am actually not even sure if these are part of the 13 everyone talks about here. I never went down that hole very far but i believe there are definately powerful families with concentrated wealth and inbreeding creating psychopaths who use us as playthings.
This is not where I got the four but ..., and I hate to admit it, but if it helps you in your research, David Ickes did exhaustive research on the 13 bloodlines in his early works. They are 70% accurate however, he is also controlled opposition and 30% or more is peppered with lies.
If anyone could list all the families and verifiable proof they would not live long enough to write the preface to their book.
And even if I could tell you I would not for the safety of us both.
How can we be certain there are thirteen then and not a lie? Or even that there are better factions within them if it cant be discussed.
Ill look at david icke. Thanks
You can't be sure of anything. But you'll find what you need to find even if your journey takes you in another direction.
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PARALLEL conjecturing/discussion here:
David Nino Rodriguez YouTube Channel "Jason Breshears 'Weaponizing Christianity'" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-M-5liXs4U Shortcut: Start at 36:55
Enjoy!
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Why not let the 4 destroy the rest, then toss them into the garbage when they're done?
Destroying the rest would also imply uncontrolled destruction of the assets belonging to the rest, which is pretty much the entire global financial system. It would end up with a result worse than the great depression and the world wars all combined together.
I believe this is what they were going to do in 2008, but decided to resurrect the carcass of the dead beast long enough to implement a control demolition leading to GA.
Let it crumble, I want my tendies from the hedge fucks.
Within each family there could be divisions in all 13. This is called humanity.
In the time that doesn’t exist. Does all their money and power mean anything? For this time is does.
Very interesting stuff. I don’t believe anyone in those 13 families fear anything. Yet they could if they chose too. Just imagine being so wealthy that at moment you could do anything you want at any place in the world. Would not they become bored and still be a human searching for anything that would give them their dna given desires? Can money make one mad?
People in lots of regards have proven to be sheep. Yet Jesus calls people sheep too. His flock. ;)
So according to that stretch its the Deep state who are working to save us from the deep state.
Two sides of the same coin.
One side likes to fuck children though, so there's that ...
They probably both do
Hey I’m cool with it if it’s true. Wonder how much worse I needs to get though, cause it’s feeling pretty shaky here on the outside.
Where do you get he in in league with 4 of the 13 families? Which 4? Is this just a guess or is there any gravy with this bread?
That last part about the 13 families and the 4 families is not correct. At least according to 'Q' Lore. Q said there are 4 controlling families and that he had already taken out one of them early on in the Q operation and that the others would similarly be taken out.
You are right to a degree. I should have written it as, there are 13 ancient bloodlines. Those bloodlines have intermarried, formed factions, and gained and destroyed alliances over time.
There are many more than 13 "family names" stemming from those bloodlines at this point but among those super wealthy, above the law, elites, there are really only several factions. The minority of those factions do not agree with the majority, who are overtly Marxist, Luciferian pedophiles and worse.
Is the score really now only 2 to 1? I do not know, that is above my pay grade.
Deep state = CCP.
Next gen warefare.
Anyone not understanding this aspect?
I think youre close, but imo, GEOTUS is the tippy top Pinnacle oof a freemason.
Aka "PLVS VLTRA" (Seen on images with him, as noted in the movie Tomorrowland, which also mentions Tesla)
From the looks of it, the Freemasons are at war with the Illuminati.
There's a whole lot of history for each of those groups, but I'm starting to wonder if the Freemasons are actually even "bad guys" at all.
I think one of the biggest mistakes of the conspiracy community is assuming that that are the same group, or at least affiliated and working together.
This was isn't of flesh and blood, but it's a war of powers in high places.
At the scenes of "mass shootings," you'll sometimes see people being interviewed with freemason paraphernalia around: a hat, a T-shirt, a sticker on a car.
https://jordansather.substack.com/p/another-day-another-false-flag-shooting
Correct... And it makes one wonder if they are being framed?
Always consider all options until undeniable proof is presented.
Fog of war
I wouldn't call any of the families deep state. Deep state is so far below them in rank. The Deep State are like the low level managers they assign as permanent fixtures in governments. They don't get to make any decisions for themselves. They just make sure the orders from above get carried out. It also doesn't matter if they get taken out, as they are very easily replaced. Most of them probably don't even know who they are really working for.
who are the 13?
I should have said, there are 13 ancient bloodlines. Those bloodlines have intermarried, formed factions, and gained and destroyed alliances over time.
There are many more than 13 "family names" stemming from those bloodlines at this point but among those super wealthy, above the law, elites, there are really only several factions. The minority of those factions do not agree with the majority, who are overtly Marxist, Luciferian pedophiles and worse.
Some of names you know all to well, some you have not likely heard of, Vanderbilt, Carnegie, Rockefeller, Rothschild, Bush, virtually all living royalty in Europe and Asia. Exhaustive research has been done by many and you can find their works and compare them to each other for greater insight.
Could "white supremacists" be code for ghosts in the 5 branches of military?
All the DS had to do if Trump was their stooge was sideline him and get Hilary elected
What 4 families do you think may have shied away from the rest? There's also the black nobility to think about.
Old south freemasons vs the rest.
DOD is not the same as the military. They are separate entities.
Until people learn to rule themselves, they will be ruled by others. So the best you can do is to learn to rule yourself. The chains just fade away then