my husband and I recently traveled on vacation and went through several airports here in FL and we were noticing so many people looked liked they just rolled out of bed and threw on whatever.....We were the ones looked like we were overdressed.
Delta called one morning at 4am to let us know our 9am flight to Honduras was cancelled. Our options were take the 5am flight or wait 3 days for the next flight. We grabbed our baggage and sped the 30 minutes to the airport. Got to the gate at 5:05am and they shut the door behind us. No shower, no shave, bed head, t shirt, etc. The moment we buckled in, I exhaled and realized I was going to be wearing slip on house shoes for the rest of the trip. I can't imagine what people were saying about us.
And it didn't cost us extra to get that meal, also for all seats behind first class like they do now. Now half the damn plane costs extra each seat closer to the front - middle of plane.
Code blue in a hospital I think means someone flatlined.... like their heart stopped. They say it over the intercom because it sounds nicer than, "everyone run ro room 312, a guy is dying!" So they came up with "codes." I'm not a medical person, but I used to watch a lot of tv. :)
Try EVA Airlines! Still the good ole days with them! Total smokeshow with those beauties and the food was awesome! As soon as I got back to the USA and took a Delta flight it was back to fat and ugly women and two males; one with French nails! I almost cried!
"Back in the day" is how long ago? What has changed that has made everything progressively worse? The answer to these questions might be obvious to some... to others maybe not.
Peace and Prosperity came about with the sacrifices of the Depression Era and WW II era Patriots. The 50s and early 60s were all America! Then we had the Cold War and when the USSR fell then we really had the potential for peace and prosperity. We earned it!
To me, there are two glaring acts that has made everything progressively worse.
The first act was the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, also known as the Hart–Celler Act, was the law that changed America forever. The driving force behind radically changing US immigration laws forever was NY Senator Jacob Javits and Emmanuel Celler. The 1965 law abolished the National Origins Formula, which had been the basis of U.S. immigration policy since the 1920s. Immigration prior to this was based on similar Christian cultures from European countries. A simple remedy for homogeneity is adopting like cultures for societal cohesion. America started drastically changing in the 1980s snd 1990s. So, "back-in-the-day" most certainly ended on 09-11-2001.
The Second act was the Patriot Act as a result of the 1998 Project for a New American Century (PNAC). It contains all the co-signers calling for a "new Pearl Harbor" event to enable perpetual Middle East wars for fulfilling the Oded Yinon plan. This plan is still being carried out to this day. The Patriot Act was a declaration of war on 'terrorism'. This was the first time in history that a war was officially declared on a conscious 'mental state' and not declared against another government. Believe it or not the Patriot Act has its origins in domestic abuse laws. It was a declaration of war against the American people. If you would like to read more about this and how it relates to the pandemic, I posted an article about a month ago. It's well worth the read.
The Plandemic has only stepped up the war on Americans. We are now all walking-talking contagions unless we submit to vaxx passports.
Have not been on a plane in 12 years, don't plan to get on one anytime in the future. Not afraid, just hate the whole system. Make me feel like a piece of luggage!.
Last time I flew was three years ago. Not ever getting on another flight, not that I enjoyed it ever, but now even my husband isn't fighting me on this. He still flies on commercial flights.
All the airlines with their covid tyranny on top of the remnants of 9/11 tyranny have pissed me off. I'll never fly again. Either car, RV, or sailboat for the rest of my life. Unless we unwind the bullshit.
I absolutely LOVED flying. All the way up to 9/11. Then it got "stupid". For a while before COVID it seemed to be a little better (at least for me) but since then I won't fly.
To give you an idea - I'm a Million Miler on AA. I flew A LOT. I had (and still have) Global Entry and TSA Pre-Check. One year I got Executive Platinum not by miles flown but by the number of segments (I had over 160 segments). I went to a lot of places that were short trips but I also lived near a small airport, so I had to fly from my local airport to a hub and then to my destination. Every trip got me 4 segments for the round trip. I was good at it too - I could show up at my airport, hand my bag to an agent, go right thru security, and be on the plane in about 5 minutes. They all knew me (even TSA) and everyone knew my bright orange luggage I bought for just that reason. They would see me coming and call me over to an open counter. The flight attendants also knew me because I was always in first class (status is nice) and they would bring me my scotch without even asking. It was as close to pre-9/11 as I could get. Not anymore though.
I drive now. Last trip I took (to my HQ) was a 10 hour drive. I don't mind it at all.
Second time flying after 911 I got felt up by a creepy perv and then I was driving everywhere. Got a lot of audiobooks and The Great Courses listened to.
This is why the vax push couples with them lobbying for no more copilots, to stop people from flying. I hate to give them what they want but I’ll never fly again.
no. Most of our pilots are private pilots or work for small, family-owned outfits. And Alaskans are, by and large, independent enough to ignore Fuhrer Fauci.
Ahhh I love Gregg, what a beautiful soul. I ordered one of his shirts and it arrived with sand, but I forgot that he puts sand in there and when I tore it open, sand went everywhere lol. I was trying to scoop it up to save it but it got dog hairs in it, sadly.
Haven’t flown in at least7-8 years and won’t, especially now. Back in the day, you got a meal in coach. You got steak in first class. You had wider seats and polite airline personnel.
I never particularly enjoyed flying itself, but I love a bustling airport. That said, we flew in December and my husband likened it to riding a bus. There's no class and it's just so commercial. (We were watching a DB Cooper documentary a couple days ago, and it showed the airline culture of the time. It's changed so much in 50 years.):
It is not just pilot health. The whole air traffic and ground control systems are a mess. Turnover? Inexperience? I met a lady whose future son in law is about to pilot for non major. He is ex military. I asked her at gym “how is so and sos airline pilot stuff going”. She started talking about near misses like crazy that she is hearing from son in law. Planes almost pancaking planes on approach. As usual near misses and risks are all covered up and public is in the dark. What else would we expect from a criminal government, coverup. Our period of pretty safe flying is about to end imo.
If my dog and my gun on my person can’t travel to it, I ain’t going. And I used to be a Continental platinum frequent flyer. Flew in 2020 for a funeral but that was it.
I work in aerospace manufacturing, and believe you me, I will never fly again! Myocardial inflammation in the pilot is the final nail in the coffin though. Imagine being that pilot and knowing you could literally die flying. Scary
Half assed parts. When a part is made not within tolerances, it's classified as scrap. After the quality dept looks at it and the material review board takes a look at it, it gets determined whether or not it goes on an airplane. And that's only parts that got caught as defective in the operation process. You'd be amazed how many actually defective parts go on airplanes. Think about flying still? Lol
Probably, but... I've got to think that if the senior pilot sitting next to you kicks off, your blood pressure has got to be spiking up pretty high at that point. The copilot is not only switching control of the plane to himself and calling for an unscheduled landing at the nearest airport, but juggling with perhaps getting stewardesses and/or the air marshal to assist with checking for life and/or removing the body if possible. Then, the niggling doubt in the back of your mind that you may have gotten a bad batch of the death jabs, too. That's gotta be a pretty stressful event. Not every pilot can be as cool as Sully Sullenberger under pressure.
I've been boycotting air travel since I retired. I used to have to go to the larger kalifornia cities -- San Francisco, LA, San Diego, etc. -- a couple of times a year on business. No more. Flying from the East to the West coast is like spending seven to eight hours on a crowded, hot, noisy bus.
Recent events have only increased my aversion to commercial air travel.
I'll fly once all the dust settles and the world goes back to a more rational setting. Until then, does anyone have a yacht they'd be willing to part with so I can see my cousin in Portugal? Also want to tour the Med. Any takers? (sort of kidding, sort of not)
0% chance a non southwest pilot captain'd this flight. Less than 0% chance actually. The only pilots that would be commuting would have to be southwest pilots. They don't have interline agreements with other airlines. That is fiction as fiction gets. Plus the pilot union would go apeshit over that.
With all the flights per day, this is a pretty small percentage (at least what's being reported). I'm honestly much more concerned about the driver of the oncoming car every day. That's a more likely 'they die and hit me' scenario.
I sort of get the sentiment. Nobody likes flying anyway. But how do you avoid it unless making yourself a prisoner? OK for some journeys you can drive or get the train as an alternative, but how else do you get to Tokyo? (Unless you're Japanese and you live there obviously.)
Flying back in the day was comfortable.
Heck, back in its day, Greyhound was comfortable.
Back in the day when we had reliable train service, train travel was comfortable.
It's a darn shame what has happened to transportation.
Be careful, they are trying to prevent us from driving, too!
People used to dress up to fly
my husband and I recently traveled on vacation and went through several airports here in FL and we were noticing so many people looked liked they just rolled out of bed and threw on whatever.....We were the ones looked like we were overdressed.
Delta called one morning at 4am to let us know our 9am flight to Honduras was cancelled. Our options were take the 5am flight or wait 3 days for the next flight. We grabbed our baggage and sped the 30 minutes to the airport. Got to the gate at 5:05am and they shut the door behind us. No shower, no shave, bed head, t shirt, etc. The moment we buckled in, I exhaled and realized I was going to be wearing slip on house shoes for the rest of the trip. I can't imagine what people were saying about us.
Good thing you answered the phone!
And it didn't cost us extra to get that meal, also for all seats behind first class like they do now. Now half the damn plane costs extra each seat closer to the front - middle of plane.
If possible choose the seat where the emergency exits are...lots of leg room
Yeah unfortunately I can't because I'm considered handicap, so they won't let me sit there.
It did though. Average roundtrip price in 1990 was $500, now it's like $200-$280. Capitalism has spoken.
Yeah, your right, but "back in the day" pilots weren't coding mid fucking flight. That's what I am concerned with.
Code blue in a hospital I think means someone flatlined.... like their heart stopped. They say it over the intercom because it sounds nicer than, "everyone run ro room 312, a guy is dying!" So they came up with "codes." I'm not a medical person, but I used to watch a lot of tv. :)
I used to be in medical, but Code Blue means life or death, and then when it was a cardiac arrest and then they would call code Charlie
Sorry. Shouldn’t have used med speak. FYI, I’m not in the industry, just read a lot and watched too many hospital shows. lol
Try EVA Airlines! Still the good ole days with them! Total smokeshow with those beauties and the food was awesome! As soon as I got back to the USA and took a Delta flight it was back to fat and ugly women and two males; one with French nails! I almost cried!
Joined the 42% Club.
"Back in the day" is how long ago? What has changed that has made everything progressively worse? The answer to these questions might be obvious to some... to others maybe not.
Peace and Prosperity came about with the sacrifices of the Depression Era and WW II era Patriots. The 50s and early 60s were all America! Then we had the Cold War and when the USSR fell then we really had the potential for peace and prosperity. We earned it!
But NO they have to destroy it.
To me, there are two glaring acts that has made everything progressively worse.
The first act was the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, also known as the Hart–Celler Act, was the law that changed America forever. The driving force behind radically changing US immigration laws forever was NY Senator Jacob Javits and Emmanuel Celler. The 1965 law abolished the National Origins Formula, which had been the basis of U.S. immigration policy since the 1920s. Immigration prior to this was based on similar Christian cultures from European countries. A simple remedy for homogeneity is adopting like cultures for societal cohesion. America started drastically changing in the 1980s snd 1990s. So, "back-in-the-day" most certainly ended on 09-11-2001.
The Second act was the Patriot Act as a result of the 1998 Project for a New American Century (PNAC). It contains all the co-signers calling for a "new Pearl Harbor" event to enable perpetual Middle East wars for fulfilling the Oded Yinon plan. This plan is still being carried out to this day. The Patriot Act was a declaration of war on 'terrorism'. This was the first time in history that a war was officially declared on a conscious 'mental state' and not declared against another government. Believe it or not the Patriot Act has its origins in domestic abuse laws. It was a declaration of war against the American people. If you would like to read more about this and how it relates to the pandemic, I posted an article about a month ago. It's well worth the read.
The Plandemic has only stepped up the war on Americans. We are now all walking-talking contagions unless we submit to vaxx passports.
Greyhound was super as well as the train.
Yep, train travel was fun when I was a kid in the 80s👌
Have not been on a plane in 12 years, don't plan to get on one anytime in the future. Not afraid, just hate the whole system. Make me feel like a piece of luggage!.
2008 was my last time! 😁
Last time I flew was three years ago. Not ever getting on another flight, not that I enjoyed it ever, but now even my husband isn't fighting me on this. He still flies on commercial flights.
Me too. Being in a confined space with a bunch of people I don't know sucking up their exhaust is not my idea of a good time.
Same here... it has been almost 20 years for me.
I would much rather take a few days and drive instead.
Been boycotting it since formation of the TSA. Happy to have some company. 😁
All the airlines with their covid tyranny on top of the remnants of 9/11 tyranny have pissed me off. I'll never fly again. Either car, RV, or sailboat for the rest of my life. Unless we unwind the bullshit.
Never enjoyed flying and haven't flown in years. I don't foresee that changing.
I absolutely LOVED flying. All the way up to 9/11. Then it got "stupid". For a while before COVID it seemed to be a little better (at least for me) but since then I won't fly.
To give you an idea - I'm a Million Miler on AA. I flew A LOT. I had (and still have) Global Entry and TSA Pre-Check. One year I got Executive Platinum not by miles flown but by the number of segments (I had over 160 segments). I went to a lot of places that were short trips but I also lived near a small airport, so I had to fly from my local airport to a hub and then to my destination. Every trip got me 4 segments for the round trip. I was good at it too - I could show up at my airport, hand my bag to an agent, go right thru security, and be on the plane in about 5 minutes. They all knew me (even TSA) and everyone knew my bright orange luggage I bought for just that reason. They would see me coming and call me over to an open counter. The flight attendants also knew me because I was always in first class (status is nice) and they would bring me my scotch without even asking. It was as close to pre-9/11 as I could get. Not anymore though.
I drive now. Last trip I took (to my HQ) was a 10 hour drive. I don't mind it at all.
Second time flying after 911 I got felt up by a creepy perv and then I was driving everywhere. Got a lot of audiobooks and The Great Courses listened to.
I will not fly until all vaxxed pilots are removed and the ds is taken out (you never know if someone on your flight is a target)
This is why the vax push couples with them lobbying for no more copilots, to stop people from flying. I hate to give them what they want but I’ll never fly again.
This one is difficult for me. It's hard to get to, from or around inside of Alaska without flying.
Were bush pilots required to get the shots too?
no. Most of our pilots are private pilots or work for small, family-owned outfits. And Alaskans are, by and large, independent enough to ignore Fuhrer Fauci.
Good, that's what I figured. At least you can still get around.
Getting there is probably a different story.
Bush flights, though, are 2-3 times as expensive as good ole' Alaska Air. So we're focusing on things close to home for now.
The last time I was on a plane was January 6, 2021. Unless the world radically changes, I will never fly again.
I have a feeling that our modes of transportation are going to change drastically when the hidden technologies are revealed.
https://in5d.com/goodbye-oil-patent-for-full-body-teleportation-system-disclosed/
Love this website.
Ahhh I love Gregg, what a beautiful soul. I ordered one of his shirts and it arrived with sand, but I forgot that he puts sand in there and when I tore it open, sand went everywhere lol. I was trying to scoop it up to save it but it got dog hairs in it, sadly.
Haven’t flown in at least7-8 years and won’t, especially now. Back in the day, you got a meal in coach. You got steak in first class. You had wider seats and polite airline personnel.
Not a hard choice. I already had enough terrifying moments in the air before this.
I never particularly enjoyed flying itself, but I love a bustling airport. That said, we flew in December and my husband likened it to riding a bus. There's no class and it's just so commercial. (We were watching a DB Cooper documentary a couple days ago, and it showed the airline culture of the time. It's changed so much in 50 years.):
It is not just pilot health. The whole air traffic and ground control systems are a mess. Turnover? Inexperience? I met a lady whose future son in law is about to pilot for non major. He is ex military. I asked her at gym “how is so and sos airline pilot stuff going”. She started talking about near misses like crazy that she is hearing from son in law. Planes almost pancaking planes on approach. As usual near misses and risks are all covered up and public is in the dark. What else would we expect from a criminal government, coverup. Our period of pretty safe flying is about to end imo.
If my dog and my gun on my person can’t travel to it, I ain’t going. And I used to be a Continental platinum frequent flyer. Flew in 2020 for a funeral but that was it.
Just as the Banks are going down one by one, the airlines will join them, starting with Southworst. There will be no bailing out this time.
I work in aerospace manufacturing, and believe you me, I will never fly again! Myocardial inflammation in the pilot is the final nail in the coffin though. Imagine being that pilot and knowing you could literally die flying. Scary
What are your colleagues saying? Please keep us posted on any inside scoop!
Half assed parts. When a part is made not within tolerances, it's classified as scrap. After the quality dept looks at it and the material review board takes a look at it, it gets determined whether or not it goes on an airplane. And that's only parts that got caught as defective in the operation process. You'd be amazed how many actually defective parts go on airplanes. Think about flying still? Lol
Good grief. At one time, I thought such negligence only occurred in 3rd-world countries. Scary!
ThanQ for the info!
what about the co pilot
Meh, there’s always the co pilot. Chances of both dropping dead is pretty slim
Probably, but... I've got to think that if the senior pilot sitting next to you kicks off, your blood pressure has got to be spiking up pretty high at that point. The copilot is not only switching control of the plane to himself and calling for an unscheduled landing at the nearest airport, but juggling with perhaps getting stewardesses and/or the air marshal to assist with checking for life and/or removing the body if possible. Then, the niggling doubt in the back of your mind that you may have gotten a bad batch of the death jabs, too. That's gotta be a pretty stressful event. Not every pilot can be as cool as Sully Sullenberger under pressure.
I’m ok with it, I’ll keep flying.
Exactly!
I've been boycotting air travel since I retired. I used to have to go to the larger kalifornia cities -- San Francisco, LA, San Diego, etc. -- a couple of times a year on business. No more. Flying from the East to the West coast is like spending seven to eight hours on a crowded, hot, noisy bus.
Recent events have only increased my aversion to commercial air travel.
haven't flown since August 2001
I put myself on a No Fly list on September 11, 2001.
I'll fly once all the dust settles and the world goes back to a more rational setting. Until then, does anyone have a yacht they'd be willing to part with so I can see my cousin in Portugal? Also want to tour the Med. Any takers? (sort of kidding, sort of not)
I mean, I'd be up for it too🐸
0% chance a non southwest pilot captain'd this flight. Less than 0% chance actually. The only pilots that would be commuting would have to be southwest pilots. They don't have interline agreements with other airlines. That is fiction as fiction gets. Plus the pilot union would go apeshit over that.
Ohhh. Now I'm interested in how this works.
I have been and will continue to.
Absolutely. Travelled more than enough and never liked flying anyway. Now it's time to dig in and prepare.
Nope not happening. I used to travel at least twice a year for vacations. Last time was May 2019. No more for me.
I will continue to do as I want and not live in fear.
With all the flights per day, this is a pretty small percentage (at least what's being reported). I'm honestly much more concerned about the driver of the oncoming car every day. That's a more likely 'they die and hit me' scenario.
I sort of get the sentiment. Nobody likes flying anyway. But how do you avoid it unless making yourself a prisoner? OK for some journeys you can drive or get the train as an alternative, but how else do you get to Tokyo? (Unless you're Japanese and you live there obviously.)
I quit air travel a long time ago. Which means I won't be seeing my relatives again. But, oh well.
I'm not going to put up with being treated crappily while shoved into a metal tube at 30K feet in the air with a flight crew that might keel over.
They don't have enough Pure Blood pilots.
Nope haven't been on 1 since 2018