/TLDR People are assholes, myself included, but there is common ground/
I don't feel great about it, either.
I had a long layover in Miami, so I sat down at a bar for a late lunch. An older gent, probably about 60-65 sits down next to me and immediately begins chatting up a guy a few seats down, and I'm already annoyed.
But whatever. No biggie. I'll be out in about 45 minutes anyway. Then another two guys sit down across the way. All four are chatting about their world travels, kids, family stuff. Cool.
Then the guy next to me starts talking about American politics and the hair stood on the back of my neck.
Please not here. Don't do it
He hasn't named any names yet in his rant, and I'm okay with that. He goes on to brag about how he's been a multimillionaire for the past 15 years because he invested in bitcoin when it was 43 cents a share. So now he just travels the world. Very privileged.
And the one thing he's noticed is just how bad American politics are.
Okay. Okay that's fine.
And then there it is: "I mean, we had Donald Trump as president so it can't get any worse."
I let it slide. I'm not getting baited.
Then one of the other guys agrees. "It's fucking insane here when you think about it. Trump's the biggest asshole on the planet"
My wife sees my eyes and rubs my arm.
I still don't say anything. I'll be out soon . I ask for the check.
Dipshit next to me then goes on to say "Listen, I'm not going to lie, my finances were better than ever when Trump was president, but you know I can't support a fascist..."
Where's my fucking check?
My wife is growing ever the more frightened.
Then the dipshit lobs the bomb out there.
"You know, say what you want about Biden, but he's just a good man. I met him a few times and he is just a great guy"
I let out a loud chuckle.
I said "Come on, man. He's been a proven liar since the 70s"
I met him just after his wife passed and...
Me: "He's a criminal, and far worse. You've got to be kidding me. Just stop."
Compared to Trump..
Me: " Forget Trump. We're taking about Biden. He's a piece of shit"
One of the other guys was smiling at me since he probably agreed. The other two were silent.
These Trumpers are always the same...
"Yeah. Genuine concern about family and country. Correct. Must be terrible for you. And every commie has been the same since the beginning. So stay out of my country if you don't like it."
Silence.
My check comes. The guy sheepishly buys me a beer.
We end up talking for another 30 minutes. We're both from NJ. Lots in common. The other guys are chiming in and everything is peachy, but my nervous energy is still keeping me on edge {I actually get very nervous when I get into arguments}
He ends up saying I love this guy -about me - after I say I have to leave.
I truly wish I could say the same but my blood was boiling.
I get his next drink and depart peacefully.
So one guy just travels the world and has not a worry. Of course politics don't really effect him so he can have these hot takes.
One of the other guys is a professional diver. Yes, a diver that travels the world to all kinds of exotic places-and dives .
Seems fairly privileged to me.
Me?
I'm just a construction foreman.
{Yes I know I could have said a lot more about Biden, but this conversation was about a 20 second explosion in a public place}
Stand up for the truth even when it’s uncomfortable!! Great job! Thank you to your wife for helping you stay calm which allowed you to share the important points of the MAGA argument vs the commies.
I am a golfer in a right leaning golf club that occasionally allows public members to come. Most people in the club are Trump supporters and we rain fire on the odd liberal that comes out this way.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thx for sharing this story. Love to read things like this. Good on you for engaging. I probably wouldn't have bc I hate getting into public confrontations, especially with ppl dumb enough to think FJB is "good man". That statement alone proves how asleep and oblivious this guy is. And the most shocking part of your story is that he bought you a beer and stated he liked you. He's obviously asleep, but at least he's not batsh!t crazy like most libs who would've gone all Rhheeee on you and thrown a drink in your face rather than buy you one.
Kudos on handling the situation with maturity and civility. I know its not easy.
That blowhard is exactly the type of human I can barely tolerate. Narcissistic to the extreme. Oblivious to anything but themselves. A big fat Karen. But what drives me crazy is their inability to self reflect. Him saying “I like this guy.” Instead of looking inward after the admonishment. As if who he likes or doesn’t matters! Yuck!!!!
Totally. And maybe its just me, but what kind of nutjob brags loudly in a public setting about their wealth to a bunch of strangers?!?! Total clown with so many strikes against him. Ignorant, Asleep, Insecure, Narcissism, Classless.
Spot on
It's basically the same as any flaunt of wealth. A fancy car that you ride hard to make people look at you, a massive house, talking about all your cross country travels, etc.
At the end of the day, that's what people who have a lot of money do. Especially when they are shallow, and money is really all they have.
I guess so. Tho I know wealthy people who are humble and would never think to brag openly about their wealth in a public setting. The insecurity level in this guy must be off the charts.
Most just need a hard slap with reality to begin to wake..
It's almost like normies are begging for it by bringing it up in public.
good job
I'd be like, "thanks for telling me you took the jab, without telling me you took the jab. I'm going to go sit over there now. You're probably shedding spike proteins."
Sure. But my anger didn't allow me to come up with the best quips on the spot.
You handled it like a PRO, And hopefully you planted a seed to some who were listening
I think it was Bongino who used to say that you’re not talking to one person, you’re talking to everyone else who’s listening in. Most civil folks will eavesdrop without letting on, and if you say something interesting they may just go look to find the truth.
DANCE!
I never can either. Just thought of that as I read your story, which I much enjoyed by the way. Cheers fren.
You did well Donny! Thanks for debating on behalf of all anons. This guy reeks of a narcissist. Hopefully you planted a seed and when the truth is revealed he will remember you after his brain explodes! 🤯
It's rare for me to come with my best retorts during a conversation, they usually come to me afterwards. 😹
I couldn’t have let the fascist comment go by without bringing up what 100% of the democrats did with vaccine mandates. Maybe the moron does not know the meaning of the word. Trump never wanted mandates. He always said it should be a choice.
I think they think fascism is when you have a strong leader who won't cater to the lowest common denominator.
When the lockdowns started I was telling people that states were going fascist with the mandates but that was coming from governors not Trump.
I would be greatly satisfied if my son grows up to be a "just" a well married construction foreman who speaks the truth in uncomfortable circumstances.
You have everything God could ever hope his child to have. Bless you always. 💪🙏
good job fern
Dude, you must have an awesome memory to be able to remember a conversation that long, along with all the other details. Well done.
I've been thinking about it non-stop.
I'm a over analyzer
I feel that, I am the same way you describe, tense in arguments and overanalyze afterwards. You obviously did great.
NJ strong 💪
I understand. Just very jealous. 😁
You are a steely eyed gun slinger. I hail you sir! Outnumbered against loud mouth retarded commies, and you skinned ‘em up anyway. Well done Patriot. The day is yours!!!
Just.
Just a good heart, a heart thirsty for truth, justice and a righteous America that we can all love again. Construction, farming, retail, accountant ... we all have our trades. Behind our economy, under our skin: the heart is what matters. Stay strong! God bless.
"I mean my finances were better under Trump"..... but but the TV tells me his a big meany so yeah I'm going to go with the guy who can't speak 2 coherent sentences in a row
I salute you sir GOOD JOB FREN
I don’t think you were a jerk. He bought you a beer and showed respect. You represented well IMHO.
At least you didn’t yell Fuck You in a grocery store over masks. I did that. Really shameful behavior but I totally broke that minute.
Probably made you want to put a mask on.
Same as you I get ridiculously nervous in public arguments or debates. I have so much I want to say but I start to stutter (an actual stutter, not whatever Biden claims to have), get flustered, my throat gets dry, just a bad time. I've gotten better at trying to keep my temper calm and to think a lot before I ever say anything. It's best to focus on your breathing, try to keep your heartbeat slow and steady, really pay attention to everything the other person is saying, even how they're speaking or acting to get a read on their emotions (to keep them from boiling over as well), and always always always try to speak slowly and calmly in return to whatever they say, no matter how crazy they get. It's always best to seem the one most in control of your emotions, because other people are watching, and they're going to more likely side with the calmer person.
GOD BLESS President Trump, his family, friends, voters, Q followers, security team, American and a vail of protection from the cabal that runs Washington DC. If you read Psalm 91, you will see that it isn't just a powerful prayer, but it's a promise that God's care will be bestowed upon you: “Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the LORD, 'He is my refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust. Trumps in my family’s prays and so are you Bless your own family TOO!
Thank you
Good for you to speak up. You did it perfectly, you can't red pill any fuck that thinks biden is a good man. But standing up and showing him you are here is huge.
As conservatives we generally don't want to start political discussions. We understand not everyone agrees with us.
These liberal fucks think everyone agrees with them or they are somehow better than those that don't.
It's about damn time we make them uncomfortable speaking politics in public.
No reason to go overboard, just make sure they know we disagree, it they continue pushing make sure they know what we think about them and laugh them off, just like you did.
Good job fren.
P.S. reminds me when I was at a neighbors party. She was speaking to another guy I know and myself. She started trashing Trump. I just smiled and said I really like Trump and looked them both in the eye. That's all it took and they stopped their shit.
Be confident, we are right, be assertive, but be kind. It will drive them nuts.
You know, that's kind of it right there. I felt I had a duty to just say "hey, that shit doesn't fly anymore"
"Get on board or get fucked"
Great job, anon. You said your peace. It seems as if we on the right have to guard what we say bc the left side of the aisle explode when we counter their arguments. I was scream d at in 2016 for saying I voted for Trump. Really? They cannot handle any civil discussion or counter of their declarations. This is why so many Conservatives refrain from saying anything. It’s time to say your peace succinctly.
Those people look down their noses at us regular folks. They need more people to tell them about real life.
You did well keeping your cool. I doubt I would have lasted 15 seconds.
I was holding back especially with my last comment about him not coming back to my country... I may have thrown a f bomb in there but for me, that's as calm as I can possibly be.
Good job nevertheless!
"These Trumpers are always the same..."
I've encountered that. It's quite amusing, although annoying at the same time.
Me and the wife drive, fly a lot these days. Pleasure. I am good at keeping my mouth shut. You never get someones true opinion while out in the wild with strangers. My experience.
BUT
Even I wouldve spit it all up ! Right there!! God bless you. I feel your energy. Check please !!!
Good for you.
I speak up many times.
When I read "Forget Trump" and "Must be terrible for you", I found myself reading it in NJ dialect (before reading where you're from). I wish I could have heard you/this convo in person. I find East coasters so quick witted/minded/tongue, and I love it. I'm proud you spoke and did it so smoothly.
Haha yeah, I definitely had that jersey slang humming.
Good job.
REMINDER:
Donny, lol, you sound like me. I think I surprise people because I'm a 5'2" 65 yo little old lady. You know the Ron White bit where he says, "I had the right to remain silent... but I didn't have the ability."
In White's case, it's drunk talk but in my case(s), this happens to me when I hear anyone criticize POTUS or rah rah the plandemic - ooo masks, oooh vaccine. I lose any ability God gave me to keep my mouth shut and the truths just spill out of my mouth.
Have this video ready next time someone says Biden is a good guy:
https://twitter.com/AmericanHubener/status/1682090144395051008
With commentary:
https://rumble.com/v1lf8rt-vp-joe-biden-pinching-little-girls-nipple-in-slow-motion.html
Haha buy them bud lights with a smile.
You know, you just reminded me. He was in fact drinking buttlight .
I had forgotten that
Well done on multiple levels!
Just starting reading this gets my hackles up. At my work guys know I’m an explosion waiting to happen. At the same time I’ve had more and more guys come up to me wanting to talk real real. Vaccine, Trump, globalism, frequency, politics, religion. You name it they know I’m open to things. Dinosaurs :) So I’m with ya brother. Every day. Seriously. Gotta go. Love ya.
My man, prouda you
I had a similar thing happen at golf. I feel as though people like this could be plants. Just like the random, young adult sitting alone on an outdoor park bench with a mask during the height of the plandemic. It was everywhere. We all saw it. Capitol Psy capitol Ops. It isn’t so very far fetched when you think about it and the possibility they’re getting paid to cause turmoil and potential violence. Professional liars. You know where a fight would have landed you in an airport? For sure on a no fly list at a minimum. But it’s as simple as realizing they pay people to be contrarians online- why not IRL?
I could be wrong. You did well. It is not easy.
That is the typical story of the idiotic left. They never produced anything, never worked for anything but think they know everything about how society is and works.
Cheers fren. Keep speaking your mind. Rip them to pieces as they are all ass holes who will never wake up.
Unfortunately they are arrogant and loud. Their view points have corrupted all of the earth. I feel that they will never wake up, until they meet Jesus.
I get the same kind of anxiety when debating people like this.