Ive been saying this since day 1. Nobody voting for Biden is going to vote for RFK jr as an independent. The only votes he will get will come from Trump. You guys really need to pull your heads out of RFK Jrs ass. He is a leftist. Not on our side and never has been. This is a strategy as old as politics.
Those disillusioned dem voters put the election out of reach of the fraudsters. Every one of them is a two vote swing. This puts the steal back in play.
Ask yourself why he would declare himself independent before a single primary has been held. Several months before a single primary has been held. Never been done before in our long electoral history. There is only one reason -- to stem the hemorrhaging of actual voters from the dems to Trump. They need a baseline of real voters before a steal is practical.
Then go research his wife. And his stances on all the issues that matter to us like gun control, climate, abortion. He is a leftist trojan horse. Same as Vivek on the right.
Beware of democrats bearing gifts. This thing stinks to high heaven.
Meh. Rfk splits the dem vote...might take some independents from trump but hurts the dem candidate far more imo. Trumps base, which is at least 60 million, aren't changing their minds.
You talk as though you are spouting fonts of knowledge that none of us thicko's could possibly have discerned.
I doubt anyone on here supports him over Trump or any Trump supporter for that matter.
Everyone seems to be speaking in the "now". The now isn't the future. So much shit is gonna drop on Sleepy's head and the rest of them within this time everyone will be frothing at the mouth voting for Trump Daddy.
Hell lost votes to RFK, Jr from those of DJT supporters who think fondly of his uncle and father. There are a ton of Boomers on both sides of the political spectrum that will vote for RFK just because he's a Kennedy and think he'd be good for this country.
DITTO. I think him running indi is some twist in the plan we don't understand yet OR it could be that something else will happen before October 9th & this plays into it somehow
Single issue voters will migrate to RFK. We dont know just how many Trump votes will move, but it will be more than a blip. But, RFK is far more about climate change and the green agenda. This will be the bloc of the left that will migrate to RFK. They will not vote for more of the same from Biden and RFK gives the climate crazies an outlet.
Who will have more of a move out of their totals? Tough to say. But remember this....Which base is more solid? MAGA or the Biden 20 people rallies?
You are not getting the MAGA base to leave Trump for any reason. Biden has no base and the voters (sheep) will follow where they are told to.
Disagree. The few sane Dems that are still in the party, want an option to Biden. Even never Trumpers are still Republicans and they’re not going to vote for an obvious Democrat with leftist views. His third party run will hurt Biden not Trump.
Most of Trump's views were center left before the Dems went full retard Commie mode on him.
Yesterday's "Kennedy Left Dem," aka the Classical Liberal is today's Center Right Repub.
RFK has a lot of views that are really right in the center of the spectrum which falls more in line with most of The People than the far right or far left.
He's an extreme climate change activist who supports the Green New Deal, is pro gun control, pro-choice, and pro socialized medicine. Those don't sound like centrist views to me. But I do like his views on vax, free speech, and foreign policy.
I agree SF. All one has to do is listen to a bunch of Bobby Kennedy’s interviews to see who and what he is. For one, he is a highly intelligent and erudite individual. People need to listen to him and not things written about him.
Sure, I'd go for Flynn. I just think we need third party seemingly 'bi-partisan' ticket. Trump is, after all, a JFK "Democrat." Plus the DemoCommies obviously do not want RFK. That's telling in my book. ETA: Plus I think a DJT/RFK third party ticket would give the Normies/Slight Left room to save face, (even though you and I both know they ought to seek to save their stupid asses.) But I say this because every. single. libtard. I have suggested a DJT/RFK third-party ticket has responded favorably to the idea; a compromise, if you will, although they could never bring themselves to vote for Trump as a Republican. I think such a team would serve to unify the center, right of center, and left of center. Extremists on both ends could then implode. Phucemol.
If he really is okay with the Supreme Court's ruling on gun ownership & he wants to rid the country of the deep state as much as Trump, I wouldn't mind.
My concern would be if RFK Jr has the foresight the Boss does? To fully remove all deep state & return us to a constitutional republic I would rather see Flynn. He knows where the political bodies are buried.
My concern is that HE IS A FUCKING LEFTIST!!! You guys get all warm and fuzzy because hes taken a stance on vaccines that aligns with our views and hes confirming something we have all known for decades about his uncle and father murders. Hes hitting all the right strings to sucker you in while not speaking about the real elephant in the room -- the traitors destroying the Constitution and pushing the enslavement of the human species.
Kennedy also called out Trump for signing an executive order this week to undo many of President Barack Obama’s climate change regulations.
“The abolition or the destruction of the clean power rule is not going to bring back a single coal job in eastern Kentucky or southern West Virginia, it’s just not gonna happen,” he said. “The only people who are going to benefit from that are going to be the billionaires who own the utilities and the big carbon interests.”
The draft Supreme Court opinion would overturn a longstanding right to abortion and represents a grave threat to human rights in the United States. A decision that unduly restricts access to abortion and limits sexual and reproductive rights constitutes violence against women. It will disproportionately impact people of color and those experiencing poverty, further exacerbating the systematic racial and economic inequities that are pervasive in our country. Today, many state laws already restrict health workers and those seeking reproductive healthcare. Without the federal protection of Roe v. Wade, new local laws will criminalize patients, nurses, and doctors, fuelling the existing mass incarceration problem.
"The only thing I can say to you on that issue is that I'm pro-choice," Kennedy said. "I don't think there's anybody in this country who's worked harder for medical freedom, for bodily autonomy, than me."
This took me all of five minutes to find. My God people do some actual vetting.
It's legit to wonder if she's really ready to be president of the United States though, which a VP obviously has to be.
She won the AZ gov race and should have been allowed to serve. Governing a state for four years at least would have given her some high-level executive experience, if indeed she was ready to be the head of a state.
I agree. But if they haven't woken up at this point, it's because they have had 15 years of public schooling, commie university and a lifetime of CIA media. They won't. Time to lift the anchor and set sail. A fact checker would tell them elections are safe and they would believe it.
Yes, this opens up the door for the votes that pedo Joe was going to get that voted for him just to vote against Trump. It takes the hate Trump vote out of the equation now. The Dems used that and the mail in cheat to get the high numbers they needed to get to 81 million. Trumps base will never leave. He will be right around 75 million. But, the ones that voted against Trump instead of for Biden, will go RFK. Pedo Joe didn’t get 81 million now the hate Trump vote is gone as well.
I wonder. People who think that they have no other real choice but Trump, because they cannot stand how crazy the Democrats have become, may very likely go for RFK instead of voting Trump....
Well, apparently an independent! /s, of course. He's running as an independent to avoid siphoning votes from the Dems, but he certainly wants to siphon votes from the MAGAdonians.
This is going to make it a nightmare for the Dems to try to cheat now. If he gets even a small percent of Dems to vote Independent it is really going to throw off numbers in contested states. The total vote count in each state will probably end up being higher than the populations. LOL
If we think about it, that may be the overall plan. How do you plan for something like that? You can't, just more of "three more weeks of counting ballots....."
Agreed. I think there is a real possibility the election cheating in 2024 gets so amplified, that even the most sleepy of the normies will have to crack open an eye to it (then, cue military intervention in 2024????). How ever it plays out, the 2024 election is shaping up to be a wild ride.
The inevitable Trump landslide + Kennedy's popularity will ensure he siphons enough authentic votes from all sides for it to be mathematically impossible for the DS to cheat with any less public obviousness than 2020.
No that is way to short sighted. The goal should bet to build an empire for generations. We need a solid young MAGA Republican! I want to hear more about Byron Donalds! That would really blow their collective minds.
Yeah, the idea that he'll siphon more votes from Trump—as if more Trump supporters are itching to vote for a lifetime leftist democrat than are disillusioned democrats who can't stand Biden—is one that doesn't seem very convincing IMHO
No way in hell DNC will allow RFK running on the Dem ticket, they had their hands full with Bernie. Same with RNC doing all they can to keep Trump out. When corruption is at its max, sometimes third party is the only way to go.
Everyone knows there's fraud. He's white hat in that he carpet bombs the podcast circuit with red pills- everything from secret underground bunkers, to chemtrails, deep government corruption and CIA control and assassinations. The guy is risking his life to do his part.
Could be bad for either side, ours or [their]s. He's got to know that all he's really gonna do here is split the vote. I agree with him that at some point we have to destroy the "two party system," because we all know it's really just the Uniparty system.
However, injecting Thurs party players every so often has been über detrimental to The People. It allowed for Slick Willy. It allowed for [Hussein]'s 2nd term. And I don't think RFK stands a chance of garnering much more attention as an Indie or even a Libertarian than he would as a Dem.
BUT, he stands an awesome chance as a running mate of DJT's. PLUS, starting out as VP under Trump will give him the necessary "chops" or bonafides, if you will, to make a successful run for POTUS in '28.
35% of the breathing left, will vote rfk…. 20 % will vote trump, leaving only 45% of the pilse bearing left voting for Biden/big Mike…. Most GOP will vote for trump.. i would say even 33% across indies for all
Two party system is stupid and continued reliance on it is just a psyop. That said, this is definitely not the time to run independent. Not with the deep state so directly involved.
I am not concerned about JFK taking votes from Trump supporters. I am concerned about the independent voters and the people who might otherwise vote Trump as "the lessor of two evils." I suspect that if enough people on the left wake up about the vaccines, there could be a significant switch from Biden to JFK. I am not sure how much "early death syndrome" can be ignored. At least we will have something to do that will help Trump (waking the left up to the covid vax problem).
DJT/RFK 2024 Third Party Ticket is the way.
RFK's views are mostly leftist. I'd rather he be an attorney general under Trump so he can go after Fauci and Big Pharma.
Not a bad idea.
SPLITTER CANDIDATE!!
Ive been saying this since day 1. Nobody voting for Biden is going to vote for RFK jr as an independent. The only votes he will get will come from Trump. You guys really need to pull your heads out of RFK Jrs ass. He is a leftist. Not on our side and never has been. This is a strategy as old as politics.
You really think Trump will lose votes to rfkjr?
The people that will vote for rfk are disillusioned dems who still can't get over orange man bad.
That's it.
Those disillusioned dem voters put the election out of reach of the fraudsters. Every one of them is a two vote swing. This puts the steal back in play.
Ask yourself why he would declare himself independent before a single primary has been held. Several months before a single primary has been held. Never been done before in our long electoral history. There is only one reason -- to stem the hemorrhaging of actual voters from the dems to Trump. They need a baseline of real voters before a steal is practical.
Then go research his wife. And his stances on all the issues that matter to us like gun control, climate, abortion. He is a leftist trojan horse. Same as Vivek on the right.
Beware of democrats bearing gifts. This thing stinks to high heaven.
I don't care what he does. And this isn't a defense of RFK jr.
Any people voting for Trump, which are by far the majority, are voting for Trump, and that's the long and short of it.
Meh. Rfk splits the dem vote...might take some independents from trump but hurts the dem candidate far more imo. Trumps base, which is at least 60 million, aren't changing their minds.
this all day
You talk as though you are spouting fonts of knowledge that none of us thicko's could possibly have discerned. I doubt anyone on here supports him over Trump or any Trump supporter for that matter.
A lot will change in the next year, when food/gas prices are sky high, on the brink of WW3, everyone minus a few idiots will be voting for Trump.
Everyone seems to be speaking in the "now". The now isn't the future. So much shit is gonna drop on Sleepy's head and the rest of them within this time everyone will be frothing at the mouth voting for Trump Daddy.
Hell lost votes to RFK, Jr from those of DJT supporters who think fondly of his uncle and father. There are a ton of Boomers on both sides of the political spectrum that will vote for RFK just because he's a Kennedy and think he'd be good for this country.
Yes. Any boomer who thinks that way wasn't voting for Trump regardless.
Get it?
explain this photo: https://media.spoutible.com/upload/images/2023/04/cylouSbprjIQjNAmuzxL_12_2874481f2c85a9c96eda5ed3e2a8d038_image_original.png
Pretty sure RFK Jr is in cahoots with Trump and playing his role in the plan whether we like it or not!
DITTO. I think him running indi is some twist in the plan we don't understand yet OR it could be that something else will happen before October 9th & this plays into it somehow
Single issue voters will migrate to RFK. We dont know just how many Trump votes will move, but it will be more than a blip. But, RFK is far more about climate change and the green agenda. This will be the bloc of the left that will migrate to RFK. They will not vote for more of the same from Biden and RFK gives the climate crazies an outlet.
Who will have more of a move out of their totals? Tough to say. But remember this....Which base is more solid? MAGA or the Biden 20 people rallies?
You are not getting the MAGA base to leave Trump for any reason. Biden has no base and the voters (sheep) will follow where they are told to.
Disagree. The few sane Dems that are still in the party, want an option to Biden. Even never Trumpers are still Republicans and they’re not going to vote for an obvious Democrat with leftist views. His third party run will hurt Biden not Trump.
Most of Trump's views were center left before the Dems went full retard Commie mode on him.
Yesterday's "Kennedy Left Dem," aka the Classical Liberal is today's Center Right Repub.
RFK has a lot of views that are really right in the center of the spectrum which falls more in line with most of The People than the far right or far left.
Most of us are Centrists.
He's an extreme climate change activist who supports the Green New Deal, is pro gun control, pro-choice, and pro socialized medicine. Those don't sound like centrist views to me. But I do like his views on vax, free speech, and foreign policy.
I agree SF. All one has to do is listen to a bunch of Bobby Kennedy’s interviews to see who and what he is. For one, he is a highly intelligent and erudite individual. People need to listen to him and not things written about him.
Perfect!
I would say that is a distinct possibility.
We know that no Republican candidate from those debating can do Trump any harm.
Sorry but no way. RFK approves 95% of the demtard vote. Gen Flynn is the way to go.
Thats a weird way to spell Kari Lake 🤣
That's a weird way to spell Rand Paul.
I'd be happy with Flynn, Lake or Paul.
2028, 2032, 2036...
Upvoted to 17 :)
Sure, I'd go for Flynn. I just think we need third party seemingly 'bi-partisan' ticket. Trump is, after all, a JFK "Democrat." Plus the DemoCommies obviously do not want RFK. That's telling in my book. ETA: Plus I think a DJT/RFK third party ticket would give the Normies/Slight Left room to save face, (even though you and I both know they ought to seek to save their stupid asses.) But I say this because every. single. libtard. I have suggested a DJT/RFK third-party ticket has responded favorably to the idea; a compromise, if you will, although they could never bring themselves to vote for Trump as a Republican. I think such a team would serve to unify the center, right of center, and left of center. Extremists on both ends could then implode. Phucemol.
Not worth the risk of a RFK presidency if anything happened to Trump.
If he really is okay with the Supreme Court's ruling on gun ownership & he wants to rid the country of the deep state as much as Trump, I wouldn't mind.
My concern would be if RFK Jr has the foresight the Boss does? To fully remove all deep state & return us to a constitutional republic I would rather see Flynn. He knows where the political bodies are buried.
My concern is that HE IS A FUCKING LEFTIST!!! You guys get all warm and fuzzy because hes taken a stance on vaccines that aligns with our views and hes confirming something we have all known for decades about his uncle and father murders. Hes hitting all the right strings to sucker you in while not speaking about the real elephant in the room -- the traitors destroying the Constitution and pushing the enslavement of the human species.
He is for gun control.
https://www.wmur.com/article/kennedy-abortion-gun-control-nuclear-power/44273836#
(This is what all gun grabbers say just before they grab your guns)
He believes in human induced climate change and will continue Bidens Green energy initiatives.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/31/politics/rfk-jr-trump-climate-change/index.html
He is pro abortion.
https://rfkhumanrights.org/statement-on-leaked-scotus-opinion-overturning-roe-v-wade
https://www.wmur.com/article/kennedy-abortion-gun-control-nuclear-power/44273836#
This took me all of five minutes to find. My God people do some actual vetting.
Thank you. This is a good reminder for us all.
Agree💯❤️
TrumpKen / TrumpKens is what the lefties are already calling the would be voter base . Lol. Thx!! Love it!!!
No.
GEOTUS and Kari Lake.
That would be full maga force.
It's legit to wonder if she's really ready to be president of the United States though, which a VP obviously has to be.
She won the AZ gov race and should have been allowed to serve. Governing a state for four years at least would have given her some high-level executive experience, if indeed she was ready to be the head of a state.
I'm sure she is more than capable...
I mean, there is a cackling hyena in there now who's obsessed with ven diagrams, so...
Yes but that's not the standard, it's a grotesque aberration done deliberately to degrade the United States
RFK has been trying to wake the world up about vaccines for decades. That's got to be worth something.
I agree. But if they haven't woken up at this point, it's because they have had 15 years of public schooling, commie university and a lifetime of CIA media. They won't. Time to lift the anchor and set sail. A fact checker would tell them elections are safe and they would believe it.
Bad move. Should have let the DNC screw him first. Gain sympathy and support. Then run independent.
Exactly my thoughts as well. But maybe that's already been played out? Let's see what the movie unfolds. Trump has still not said peep about RFK
dasting, but doesn't this hurt Trump more?
he will take votes from biden not trump
This. There are some who just can't vote for Trump even if they see something isn't right with democrats right now.
That Trump doesn't trash him makes me think he thinks this too.
Yes, this opens up the door for the votes that pedo Joe was going to get that voted for him just to vote against Trump. It takes the hate Trump vote out of the equation now. The Dems used that and the mail in cheat to get the high numbers they needed to get to 81 million. Trumps base will never leave. He will be right around 75 million. But, the ones that voted against Trump instead of for Biden, will go RFK. Pedo Joe didn’t get 81 million now the hate Trump vote is gone as well.
I wonder. People who think that they have no other real choice but Trump, because they cannot stand how crazy the Democrats have become, may very likely go for RFK instead of voting Trump....
Possibly. I wonder if RFKjr is controlled to do exactly that.
Could just as likely be the opposite. Let's see what the movie brings.
Yep….I hope all the RFK worshipers get it now….he is good on the vaccine stuff, but he is still a democrat…
Well, apparently an independent! /s, of course. He's running as an independent to avoid siphoning votes from the Dems, but he certainly wants to siphon votes from the MAGAdonians.
If Trump ran independent, then he'd come out on top. Although it's hard to compete against duffle bags
Good question….
This is going to make it a nightmare for the Dems to try to cheat now. If he gets even a small percent of Dems to vote Independent it is really going to throw off numbers in contested states. The total vote count in each state will probably end up being higher than the populations. LOL
If we think about it, that may be the overall plan. How do you plan for something like that? You can't, just more of "three more weeks of counting ballots....."
Agreed. I think there is a real possibility the election cheating in 2024 gets so amplified, that even the most sleepy of the normies will have to crack open an eye to it (then, cue military intervention in 2024????). How ever it plays out, the 2024 election is shaping up to be a wild ride.
By wild, do you mean infuriatingly stressful to the point of blackpilling? Lol cos i cant take 2020 all over again.
😂😂😂
He'll siphon votes from Trump voters who are critical of Operation Warp Speed.
A reminder that RFK Jr is a hardcore climate change activist who is:
I'd be very cautious about supporting him.
Trump/Kennedy is sorta like Reagan/bush...
Okay, in that case, "Catturd" for Speaker of the House!
Interesting that he is jumping ship before the DNC has a chance to screw him in the primary.
Yes it is.
I see two optimistic possibilities:
Trump/Kennedy double knockout ticket
The inevitable Trump landslide + Kennedy's popularity will ensure he siphons enough authentic votes from all sides for it to be mathematically impossible for the DS to cheat with any less public obviousness than 2020.
I look at it this way, you are not losing any of the 75 million that voted Trump. How many of the 81 million legal, alive, dead, vote does Biden lose?
No that is way to short sighted. The goal should bet to build an empire for generations. We need a solid young MAGA Republican! I want to hear more about Byron Donalds! That would really blow their collective minds.
Beautiful, this’ll split the Dem vote for sure
Yeah, the idea that he'll siphon more votes from Trump—as if more Trump supporters are itching to vote for a lifetime leftist democrat than are disillusioned democrats who can't stand Biden—is one that doesn't seem very convincing IMHO
Interesting. I'd hoped that RFK was white hat and running on Dem ticket to further expose the voter fraud. Guess not. 😕
No way in hell DNC will allow RFK running on the Dem ticket, they had their hands full with Bernie. Same with RNC doing all they can to keep Trump out. When corruption is at its max, sometimes third party is the only way to go.
Yea, I was just theorizing today that Ds probably won't even do a primary. They'll just lock Brandon in a closet and install Newsome.
Don't think Rs can do that because the field is too big right now.
Recall - we were told this wouldn't be just another 'normal' election.
That's why I thought he'd run on it. Show the Democrat voters that voter fraud is not just a Republican problem. Open some more eyes.
Everyone knows there's fraud. He's white hat in that he carpet bombs the podcast circuit with red pills- everything from secret underground bunkers, to chemtrails, deep government corruption and CIA control and assassinations. The guy is risking his life to do his part.
No there are still deniers. Had a lovely disagreement just a short time ago.
We can only pray, Trump is a shoe in.
Could be bad for either side, ours or [their]s. He's got to know that all he's really gonna do here is split the vote. I agree with him that at some point we have to destroy the "two party system," because we all know it's really just the Uniparty system.
However, injecting Thurs party players every so often has been über detrimental to The People. It allowed for Slick Willy. It allowed for [Hussein]'s 2nd term. And I don't think RFK stands a chance of garnering much more attention as an Indie or even a Libertarian than he would as a Dem.
BUT, he stands an awesome chance as a running mate of DJT's. PLUS, starting out as VP under Trump will give him the necessary "chops" or bonafides, if you will, to make a successful run for POTUS in '28.
So, not running to win. Got it.
Good, actually.
Also, Cornell West is to be running under the Green Party umbrella. Things are going to be interesting!
I wonder if this was leaked ahead of time by deep state in an attempt to make it seem like RFK Jr isn't a worthy contender of the Democrat party.
Seems they have been doing it to both Republicans & Democrats for decades.
35% of the breathing left, will vote rfk…. 20 % will vote trump, leaving only 45% of the pilse bearing left voting for Biden/big Mike…. Most GOP will vote for trump.. i would say even 33% across indies for all
Well, but then he is up against Trump and may draw some votes away. This is what third parties do. I don't like it.
If he teamed up with Trump, they would kill both parties at once. It would be awesome.
Two party system is stupid and continued reliance on it is just a psyop. That said, this is definitely not the time to run independent. Not with the deep state so directly involved.
We'd still have 2 parties, the D 's & R's are the same team.
I am not concerned about JFK taking votes from Trump supporters. I am concerned about the independent voters and the people who might otherwise vote Trump as "the lessor of two evils." I suspect that if enough people on the left wake up about the vaccines, there could be a significant switch from Biden to JFK. I am not sure how much "early death syndrome" can be ignored. At least we will have something to do that will help Trump (waking the left up to the covid vax problem).
https://greatawakening.win/p/17r9bDHl0L/calling-it-now-rfk-is-going-to-l/