More to the point, why was Epstein in the max security cell if there were no clients? Who precisely were the girls being trafficked to?
A looped video isn't proof, as far as I'm concerned. No, I'm not going to watch 11 hours of it hoping to catch one frame where they spliced it wrong or something. I have better things to do with my life, like watch grass grow.
I'm giving this a 24-hour-rule break, but I'm beyond tired of being lied to about this POS. He was Israeli. He was an "intelligence" operative. He was trafficking little kids for a reason, and we know what his social circle was. I'm not for one instant willing to accept "there is no evidence" as anything other than a strong implication that law enforcement destroyed the evidence they had. The FBI aren't chumps. They're a damn good investigative team. Every crime scene has evidence. If these people are saying they can't find any, that's because they're not looking - and that's not good enough. That's not justice.
Honestly, we need to take a step back here. If this is what President Trump says, then, as unlikely as it seems, it is the truth. We can't keep second guessing the commander in Chief. We need to trust the plan. It sounds like Ghislaine Maxwell is innocent as well, and we might be seeing a pardon coming down the pipeline here soon. We won't apologize for what we said, we went off the best information we had at the time. We can't get things right 100% of the time, and that's OK. We simply need to continue to do the best we can with what we have.
I'm sorry, but I'm loyal to our commander in chief. It is not our job to question these things. When the truth is clear, we very quickly find out who the true patriots are because they are the ones who follow orders. Tell me, what did President Trump say about the vaccine? Did he say it was poison or would hurt us? You can just pick and choose what you like to believe, that's something that the liberals do.
I am glad you are unaffected so far. However, all cause mortality is presently higher than at any time during the pandemic. Rates of cancer, stroke, and heart attack are inexplicably high and rising. The birth rate has plummeted. And the only thing that has changed is that 80% of all people were coerced into getting a battery of experimental DNA-altering injections. If you still think the vaxx was safe then I don’t think we’re operating on the same intellectual plane. No one regrets not having gotten it.
I don't know about that, maybe, maybe not. What I do know is that President Trump recommended we should get them. Even if it is harmful, I'm sure he has a reason and a plan for it. Once he said that, we should have all lined up for the vaccine, no waffling. How can we fight the Deep State is we can't even follow basic instructions?
Not maybe maybe not, it’s true. It’s intellectually dishonest to dismiss evidence solely because it doesn’t align with your beliefs.
You want people who blindly follow orders? You got the mil. We aren’t rank and file, and they have no shortage of rank and file. As I understand it Q approached anons looking for the free thinkers. Well as a free thinker, no amount of propaganda or peer pressure could have made me inject that experimental garbage into my body.
All throughout this entire thing anons have disagreed with and argued with Q. Remember, as one example, the debate about how much will need to remain classified? I think anons by and large still disagree with Q’s assertions that some of it has to stay secret and unless I’m remembering wrong it was anons’ objections that caused Q to raise the percentage of what would be declassified, at least a bit.
I sincerely hope you got one of the saline control injections but I fear the anti vaxxers are the control in this experiment. Economical use of all test subjects.
I think it would be fair for someone in the admin to admit fault though. Not Trump, but Bondi has been teasing videos and saying there was more info coming. This is something that was encouraged for people to believe. It would be a real betrayal of trust IF true.
I think it has become obvious, Bondi is a plant. Secretly put in by the Deep State, but it is clear that she is in way over her head. Now she is being exposed, and watched. Any moles she has worked with, or contacts she has with the Deep State have been compromised. I expect there will be some big cabinet shake ups soon.
I don't know what is going on, but I'm guessing the FBI deleted or got rid of all the evidence they had., OR we've all been hoodwinked and fell for a psyOp that wasn't on our side...
This is the part that confuses me the most. Why even bother with the psyop? If they had that much control over it, why even push the psyop to begin with and draw attention?
So, wouldn't that make the remaining bulk of MAGA that don't even follow/understand Q an active threat? Theoretically, whatever threat they/we posed, would still be in full force for those who ignore the "psyop".
As sheep with red wool and not blue wool, they also pose no threat.
In this theory, we might have been able to detect what was happening and alert everyone. Instead we were preoccupied with the psyop’s endless rabbit holes to nowhere. It’s now too late to change the outcome even if we notice at this point so little attention is paid to us.
As for theories on what “the outcome” might be? One thought: when all the illegals are gone, will all those heavily armed federal ICE agents, with training going door to door and apprehending suspects familiar with America, in America, simply be dismissed? Or did the FBI get a terrifying new capacity just in time for the cabal to steal another election?
My point is, even without the "endless rabbit hole" you are equating Q to... without this, the public would be even less equipped to call out obvious lies and potentially do something about it.
The notion that Q/Trump are simply distractions on a hyper-elevated 10 year Red vs. Blue puppet act is literally insane. There would be no purpose to this.
They could have just cut us off and taken everything over in 2015, 2020, and 2024. Especially since this would all mean that Trump has been in on it since the very beginning and working against the USA's interests.
My point is, the very act of this being a psyop is the only thing that could have created the threat of "rising up". And even still in the fact of 1/6 and COVID and blatant election fraud. All of which you could argue are worthy causes to "rise up", absolutely no one did anything. Even Pre-Q... the Clinton/Podesta files + Wikileaks drops, all of these would warrant protests at minimum.
To go through a multi-year psyop and needless breadcrumb trails as "fake outs" for Anons/Patriots? To pre-cool any uprisings? Just doesn't carry any water logically.
The same people who make this claim, that this a a giant psyop to keep people from rising up/doing anything, are the first people to fold and walk away when you present the question: "Okay, well, about 20% of MAGA even knows of Q, and probably less than 10% actually understands Q and what it is... so, if this is some giant psyop to prevent any kind of action/revolt/protests... what's the other 80% doing other than complaining?"
In other words, stating that Q is a psyop to control us and prevent some kind of uprising ultimately boils down to impatience and fake keyboard warriors who pretend like they would have overthrown the Deep State - but in reality are just looking for a way to justify their own inactions and they never would have done anything.
All they had to do in 2015 was install Killary as planned and continue their 16 year plan, why would they create MAGA and then Q and all these psyops when they already had it in the bag? Did they just suddenly decide to play on hard mode?
Obvious distraction is obvious. Axios trying to hide something else. Just ignore this obvious dumbshit and find whatever it is they are trying to hide.
TL;DR Word Games is a known play. Look past the initial rebuttal.
I can accept there is no list. Though I really hate word games.
Underlings that "trust the process" have likely destroyed evidence. Thought again they may have never been a list.
If he had pics & videos, as well as just "met socially" with others that happen to accept an invitation to his private Island & partake of the services that are provided. Did he really need a "client list"? One friend liked Hotdogs, another cheese pizza. A few high ranking Dems enjoyed walnut sauce with their meals, etc...
I want the menus, the card index (not all in the index are corrupt, but possible contacts to feel out), I want the Geo Location data of every single device that spent time on that island during his known party days, and the individuals ties to those phones, specifically which ones ended up in that "temple" & the devices potentially just stopped working/lost signal (if no network in the basement levels) & how long those signals were lost.
Those who just played tennis & got back on a cruise ship are unlikely to have joined in the crimes that need to be brought to justice.
It would take a pede with far more funds than I have to get access to that data (ie purchase it) and then toss it out for Anons to analyze.
Even if names aren't ties to the UID of those devices, that is something that can be turned into actionable evidence once shown the UID (unique identifier) is shown to have odd actions on that island.
The so called "client list" doesn't matter to me. Get us the data & let us draw our own conclusions.
Personally I don't believe there was ever a "client list" . If there ever was a written list, it was more likely a target list of those that could be blackmailed.
This is how the deep state covers themselves. Tell Kash & Bongino, "No sir, there is no client list.", while hiding that they never even looked at geo location data.
It is all word games. If a movement gets loud enough, demanding the Geo location data between the dates we know that island was active (ie post temple construction, pre Maxwell imprisonment) then we have information that can be analyzed by an army of frogs.
IMO there is zero reason that data can't be acquired via court order, or via some White Hat that has deep enough pockets (granted I don't know how much that data would cost & have not looked at the dates) buying the data, and then releasing that data for Anons to analyze. There is nothing tying the UID directly to any individuals publicly (see Google or Apple for that I for) unless law enforcement gets warrants to force those phone/device providers to give up true potential suspects.
I had not seen that. Thank you! Any idea where that data can be poured through? I am most interested in which devices were in the "temple" structure, and repeatedly went back.
Also how many of the devices that attended the island, also attended Diddy parties, or ping on any of the other known child trafficking hubs that guys like Tim Ballard exposed?
I honestly have no idea. I just remember seeing posts like this that showed all of the cell phones that were turned on and then a Q post to the effect that these people are stupid and we have it all.
Yeah, liberals already like to mock us as "the Qanons that believe everyone is a trafficker except their dear old orange leader," while posting a picture of Jeff and Trump together, and this certainly isn't going to help.
You can't trust anything the libs are pushing. I usually assume that anything they show is photoshopped or fabricated. It makes things easier when you don't play their games. Everyone who talks about them being friends and partying together, that's all fake news. President Trump said he didn't matter much, that he hasn't been on his plane, or been to his 'stupid' island. Case closed.
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Trump and team is always 3-5 steps ahead. There IS A LIST and maybe it is not being referred to as "client list", but something else. Wait for the reactions and the traitors to stick out so we know exactly who NOT TO TRUST.
If this is True, then I am now questioning Trump and his administration. Even more so, if this is true then Q failed us.
This draws more attention to Trump's relationship with Epstein. If you have nothing to hide, then release it all. Or, is it the Israelis that are preventing it from being released?
We deserved better. The victims deserved better. I pray that this is fake news.
We're winning like crazy, and then there's people like this. Obviously, the plan is working just fine. Maybe it isn't all happening like you thought it would, but that's not Q's fault, it is your expectations that need to be adjusted. Everything happens according to the plan. The Deep State and Global Cabal are being purged before our very eyes and for all that, you're only sitting at 10%? Sounds like you're the exact type of person that the re-education centers will be for.
I’ll say it, Trump has done some great things, and we are far better off with him at the helm right now than Kamala, but I’m definitely beginning to wonder what lists he might be on.
Yeah maybe we are all have a bias here that we forget about because we think we’re right about him. But we need to start looking at everyone through a critical lense.
It’d seem obvious that with all the attacks he’s been under, dropping some real evidence related to any pedo involvement would have stopped his campaign quick like. But maybe this is like playing with nukes. If one guy goes down everyone is going down.
Just like everyone else, I’ll give it a little time but if this becomes an official response, we’re cooked.
The only sliver of hope, if you can even call it that, is that things are SO BAD and horrific as far as Pizzagate/Pedo Ring, that they made the assessment that it is better to eat this shit and just lie because the truth would be too damaging.
I still don’t buy that because the truth should always come out no matter what, but I can at least understand that line of thinking.
Epstein was also arrested under a Democrat. Then was given a sweetheart deal by a prosecutor. Then Trump hired that same prosecutor to work in the White House. Then hired bill barr a attorney general, whose dad was the first person to hire Epstein, teaching at a school…
And unless people are ARRESTED AND IMPRISONED then I really can't argue you against you.
Trump needs to step it up. Bondi is useless. Kash and Dan are running interference. I can only presume it's because disclosure just isn't the right time.
People talk of doomers on here and I'll be the first to admit that following a plan that could be complex may feel, at times, impossible but holy batman this is pathetic.
Elon doesn't have dirt, he said Trump was in the Epstein files which is not news since we know Trump was on Epstein's plane more than once, flight logs are considered "Epstein files", that was released years ago long before Elon said anything.
The feud almost certainly fake and exaggerated but I'm also no fan of Elon Musk and his apparent love, or abuse, of H1B.
Elon didn't indicate anything. Elon stated a fact which we all already knew. Trump is named in the Epstein files. He's not implicated on anything. Nor is there even a hint of wrongdoing. His name simply pops up in the file log transcript. What Elon stated is a fact. Reread what he said specifically. He did not say he's in the logs of the flights, nor implicated in any way. You're on a forum that takes every word critically. So reread.
Bradley Edwards, an attorney who represented a number of those who claimed Epstein was involved in their abuse, spoke about the financer's relationship with Trump during an interview with Derrick Broze of The Conscious Resistance Network, a self-styled "independent media organization" that claims to work "to create a world where corporate and state power does not rule over the lives of free human beings."
Asked about Epstein's relationship with Trump he replied: "The only thing I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who in 2009, when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people that I wanted to talk to them, he is the only person who picked up the phone and said 'lets just talk, I'll give you as much time as you want, I'll tell you what you need to know.'
Edwards said Trump: "Was very helpful in the information he gave and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever but had good information that checked out and that helped us and that we didn't have to take a deposition of him."
spoke about the financer's relationship with Trump during an interview with Derrick Broze of The Conscious Resistance Network
Yeah, why doesn't an attorney release everything, like the interview to implicate the single most notorious human trafficker in modern history, onto the internet?
Random lawyer? You mean prominent lawyer Bradley Edwards, who wrote a BOOK on his fight? "Relentless Pursuit: My Fight for the Victims of Jeffrey Epstein."
You didn't even read the article, did you? You'd rather choose to hate Trump based on your own internal biases then spend time reading cited sources that show you the truth. You don't care about the truth. You don't care about the victims. You don't care about anything other than feeling like you're right and you chose your identity crusade on the topic of "orange man bad."
Why don't you prove to the class that Trump participated in Epstein's vile deviant behavior. Please explain to all of us, on a forum dedicated to upending Pizzagate through an operation of which Trump is central, that Trump is the bad guy we've been chasing all along.
Please provide direct sources that prove your claim and not your "well there was a photo" logic.
It’s like they waited for this announcement to show up. At least I’m consistent with my occasional impatience and dooming. I’m human. But we’re winning economically that’s a big deal.
Trump is literally doing everything Ron Paul laid out that would fix this economy and reverse globalism. Big week for trade deal announcements.
you understand that the FBI have the best 2 people in charge to expose this crime and theyve come out and said nothing to see? Theres no where to go from here
I'm suspicious that Bondi is a plant. Maybe she is there so that she can be monitored to root out the moles. Remember, we can't trust anyone besides President Trump.
I remember in an interview he said he would have to consider it, and make sure innocent people weren't harmed. He has never committed to releasing the files in full. We need to pay attention when President Trump tells us things, I haven't been expecting any kind of release, and was very suspicious when Bondi said they were on her desk, but then didn't immediately release them.
Diddy basically walks and now Patel and Co. are telling us the Epstein saga is basically nonsense.
We are fucked. I know the Pizzagate stuff is real, I feel it in my soul, but if everyone involved is just getting off Scott free, then we know the cause is hopeless because everyone controlling the levers of power is on the relevant lists. We live in an increasingly evil and sick world.
We live in a fallen and sinful world, and Satan is the Prince of this planet. It’s a sad reality, but it’s the truth. There will never be real justice here.
I’m learning more and more to just make sure my house is in order and I’m around good people who are awake to the Truth. I cannot control if that Truth ever comes out. Head down, and nose to the grindstone.
Axios is the source (dubious).
Sunday night release (dubious).
I'm smelling clickbait and a cheap attempt to change the narrative from Trump's exceptional handling of the Texas flash flood situation: immediate response, hundreds of lives saved. Everyone involved reacted professionally, immediately, and made the best of a terrible circumstance. It's still a tragedy, but could have been so, so much worse.
Also, China speculation is simmering over the last week. Xi Jinping may be losing control. He's been conspicuously absent.
Russia's advancing on all fronts. Ukraine's on the verge of breaking. Hegseth just stopped the weapons flow, including anti-air defenses. Russia's now free to send in their strategic bombers to provide active air support along the front line.
Trump just got his massive tax cuts locked in and his funding for ICE deportations hitting his two biggest domestic priorities: juice the economy and remove the illegals.
Narrative change is desirable for the revolutionaries.
24-hour rule applies here. We'll see if it's fake news.
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Yeah. And I’m the next King of England. Everyone knows he had a client list. And Everyone knows a lot of very powerful people were interested in him dying prematurely.
Trump and Q told you about Epstein before he was ever on your radar. Q+ spent the last 8+ years giving proofs beyond a shadow of doubt -- and now some libtard rag publishes unsourced claims and everyone is losing their mind.
The sheer coordination of accounts who haven't posted anything in the last 6 months and then came crawling out of the woodwork to respond to this thread is mind boggling.
If this article concerns you, then I'm just going to outright say it -- you're gullible. Did you even read the article with an ounce of skepticism?
The article isn't credible. Read it, looking for sauce that confirms the premise of Epstein not having a list -- there is none.
They quote Bongino and Patel -- but not in relation to the premise of Epstein not having a list, they were talking about the suicide.
The premise boils down to an unsourced memo with no proof, confirmations or other sauce referenced. If you've read that article, and researched the bias of Axios, and still concerned about Trump -- you're one of two things.
Completely gullible
or
You hate Trump and Q and were itching for an opportunity to dust off your unused GAW accounts to consensus crack that this was the straw that broke your back (yet when reading your comment history its revealed your back has been broken for quite some time).
This was a massive and coordinated psyop/information warfare campaign. It was well coordinated with the bots, shills and trolls to appear at just the right time all over maga and conservative normie forums. The Trump team has turned it to their advantage as now that the initial outcry has subsided, calls for the list amplify. This will be written about in future War Manuals in the chapters following Hannibal, Napolean and Pattons battles.
Im with ya magavoices. There are some truly dumb people here that are listening to some that are fully dishonest. If I fell for this shit Id change my name to hide my eternal embarrassment.
If the DOJ and FBI have reached a conclusion then they can tell the American people directly. Let's see if there's a corresponding piece on a .gov website soon.
What was Virginia Guiffre doing down there, then? Just taking a vacation? Just hanging out with Epstein, Maxwell, and Prince Andrew to play tiddly winks?
I voted for Trump three times in hopes that he would go after the criminals in Washington and Hollywood, especially the ones who harmed children. If there aren't any prosecutions of big names by the next election, I am done voting forever.
The lesson learned from all this is if a child in your family is raped, kill the pervert and plead temporary insanity. 99.9% of the Pedo-elite are still out there eating our kids, Trust the Plan (Unless you are a hapless victim)
Some media are running with the story, like the NY Post, and social media is running with it. I do not want to post my thoughts, because I am loyal to only one, and he is not a political leader. I wish I was shocked, but I am not. Brothers and Sisters in Christ, we must pray and ask His will be done, even if we do not like the outcome. I just hope Virginia Giuffre is wrapped in the safety and rest of Our Father, however she died.
So why is Ghislaine Maxwell in prison if there weren’t any clients?
More to the point, why was Epstein in the max security cell if there were no clients? Who precisely were the girls being trafficked to?
A looped video isn't proof, as far as I'm concerned. No, I'm not going to watch 11 hours of it hoping to catch one frame where they spliced it wrong or something. I have better things to do with my life, like watch grass grow.
I'm giving this a 24-hour-rule break, but I'm beyond tired of being lied to about this POS. He was Israeli. He was an "intelligence" operative. He was trafficking little kids for a reason, and we know what his social circle was. I'm not for one instant willing to accept "there is no evidence" as anything other than a strong implication that law enforcement destroyed the evidence they had. The FBI aren't chumps. They're a damn good investigative team. Every crime scene has evidence. If these people are saying they can't find any, that's because they're not looking - and that's not good enough. That's not justice.
Honestly, we need to take a step back here. If this is what President Trump says, then, as unlikely as it seems, it is the truth. We can't keep second guessing the commander in Chief. We need to trust the plan. It sounds like Ghislaine Maxwell is innocent as well, and we might be seeing a pardon coming down the pipeline here soon. We won't apologize for what we said, we went off the best information we had at the time. We can't get things right 100% of the time, and that's OK. We simply need to continue to do the best we can with what we have.
I remember when he said the vaxx was safe. Did you get it? If not, you have doubts sometimes too.
I simply don’t believe we were wrong about Epstein.
lmao, this retard is 100% a redditor who comes here to concern shill.
FUckoff vaxxtard
I'm sorry, but I'm loyal to our commander in chief. It is not our job to question these things. When the truth is clear, we very quickly find out who the true patriots are because they are the ones who follow orders. Tell me, what did President Trump say about the vaccine? Did he say it was poison or would hurt us? You can just pick and choose what you like to believe, that's something that the liberals do.
fuckoff, shill
I am glad you are unaffected so far. However, all cause mortality is presently higher than at any time during the pandemic. Rates of cancer, stroke, and heart attack are inexplicably high and rising. The birth rate has plummeted. And the only thing that has changed is that 80% of all people were coerced into getting a battery of experimental DNA-altering injections. If you still think the vaxx was safe then I don’t think we’re operating on the same intellectual plane. No one regrets not having gotten it.
I don't know about that, maybe, maybe not. What I do know is that President Trump recommended we should get them. Even if it is harmful, I'm sure he has a reason and a plan for it. Once he said that, we should have all lined up for the vaccine, no waffling. How can we fight the Deep State is we can't even follow basic instructions?
Not maybe maybe not, it’s true. It’s intellectually dishonest to dismiss evidence solely because it doesn’t align with your beliefs.
You want people who blindly follow orders? You got the mil. We aren’t rank and file, and they have no shortage of rank and file. As I understand it Q approached anons looking for the free thinkers. Well as a free thinker, no amount of propaganda or peer pressure could have made me inject that experimental garbage into my body.
All throughout this entire thing anons have disagreed with and argued with Q. Remember, as one example, the debate about how much will need to remain classified? I think anons by and large still disagree with Q’s assertions that some of it has to stay secret and unless I’m remembering wrong it was anons’ objections that caused Q to raise the percentage of what would be declassified, at least a bit.
I sincerely hope you got one of the saline control injections but I fear the anti vaxxers are the control in this experiment. Economical use of all test subjects.
I think it would be fair for someone in the admin to admit fault though. Not Trump, but Bondi has been teasing videos and saying there was more info coming. This is something that was encouraged for people to believe. It would be a real betrayal of trust IF true.
I think it has become obvious, Bondi is a plant. Secretly put in by the Deep State, but it is clear that she is in way over her head. Now she is being exposed, and watched. Any moles she has worked with, or contacts she has with the Deep State have been compromised. I expect there will be some big cabinet shake ups soon.
I don't know what is going on, but I'm guessing the FBI deleted or got rid of all the evidence they had., OR we've all been hoodwinked and fell for a psyOp that wasn't on our side...
This is the part that confuses me the most. Why even bother with the psyop? If they had that much control over it, why even push the psyop to begin with and draw attention?
Maybe we were a threat.
So, wouldn't that make the remaining bulk of MAGA that don't even follow/understand Q an active threat? Theoretically, whatever threat they/we posed, would still be in full force for those who ignore the "psyop".
As sheep with red wool and not blue wool, they also pose no threat.
In this theory, we might have been able to detect what was happening and alert everyone. Instead we were preoccupied with the psyop’s endless rabbit holes to nowhere. It’s now too late to change the outcome even if we notice at this point so little attention is paid to us.
As for theories on what “the outcome” might be? One thought: when all the illegals are gone, will all those heavily armed federal ICE agents, with training going door to door and apprehending suspects familiar with America, in America, simply be dismissed? Or did the FBI get a terrifying new capacity just in time for the cabal to steal another election?
My point is, even without the "endless rabbit hole" you are equating Q to... without this, the public would be even less equipped to call out obvious lies and potentially do something about it.
The notion that Q/Trump are simply distractions on a hyper-elevated 10 year Red vs. Blue puppet act is literally insane. There would be no purpose to this.
They could have just cut us off and taken everything over in 2015, 2020, and 2024. Especially since this would all mean that Trump has been in on it since the very beginning and working against the USA's interests.
They could also have just gone ahead with the plan without telling us about it. Why tell us at all?
Furthermore, this would also indicate that Trump is in on the psyop, and is the #1 suspect on the decade long info-warfare rugpull.
If that’s the case we’re all doomed, or at least doomed to a fight against an enemy with a money printer. I choose not to believe it to stay sane.
My point is, the very act of this being a psyop is the only thing that could have created the threat of "rising up". And even still in the fact of 1/6 and COVID and blatant election fraud. All of which you could argue are worthy causes to "rise up", absolutely no one did anything. Even Pre-Q... the Clinton/Podesta files + Wikileaks drops, all of these would warrant protests at minimum.
To go through a multi-year psyop and needless breadcrumb trails as "fake outs" for Anons/Patriots? To pre-cool any uprisings? Just doesn't carry any water logically.
The same people who make this claim, that this a a giant psyop to keep people from rising up/doing anything, are the first people to fold and walk away when you present the question: "Okay, well, about 20% of MAGA even knows of Q, and probably less than 10% actually understands Q and what it is... so, if this is some giant psyop to prevent any kind of action/revolt/protests... what's the other 80% doing other than complaining?"
In other words, stating that Q is a psyop to control us and prevent some kind of uprising ultimately boils down to impatience and fake keyboard warriors who pretend like they would have overthrown the Deep State - but in reality are just looking for a way to justify their own inactions and they never would have done anything.
All they had to do in 2015 was install Killary as planned and continue their 16 year plan, why would they create MAGA and then Q and all these psyops when they already had it in the bag? Did they just suddenly decide to play on hard mode?
Exactly. There's zero logic to the whole "Q is a giant 10+ year rug pull to gaslight us all!"... none.
Bondi said there were videos recently. So Im not gonna buy that they're suddenly not there.
Just think of all the 'CHATTER' the W&Ws will be able to collect. GOTCHA!!! 😏
Obvious distraction is obvious. Axios trying to hide something else. Just ignore this obvious dumbshit and find whatever it is they are trying to hide.
TL;DR Word Games is a known play. Look past the initial rebuttal.
I can accept there is no list. Though I really hate word games.
Underlings that "trust the process" have likely destroyed evidence. Thought again they may have never been a list.
If he had pics & videos, as well as just "met socially" with others that happen to accept an invitation to his private Island & partake of the services that are provided. Did he really need a "client list"? One friend liked Hotdogs, another cheese pizza. A few high ranking Dems enjoyed walnut sauce with their meals, etc...
I want the menus, the card index (not all in the index are corrupt, but possible contacts to feel out), I want the Geo Location data of every single device that spent time on that island during his known party days, and the individuals ties to those phones, specifically which ones ended up in that "temple" & the devices potentially just stopped working/lost signal (if no network in the basement levels) & how long those signals were lost.
Those who just played tennis & got back on a cruise ship are unlikely to have joined in the crimes that need to be brought to justice.
It would take a pede with far more funds than I have to get access to that data (ie purchase it) and then toss it out for Anons to analyze.
Even if names aren't ties to the UID of those devices, that is something that can be turned into actionable evidence once shown the UID (unique identifier) is shown to have odd actions on that island.
The so called "client list" doesn't matter to me. Get us the data & let us draw our own conclusions.
Personally I don't believe there was ever a "client list" . If there ever was a written list, it was more likely a target list of those that could be blackmailed.
This is how the deep state covers themselves. Tell Kash & Bongino, "No sir, there is no client list.", while hiding that they never even looked at geo location data.
It is all word games. If a movement gets loud enough, demanding the Geo location data between the dates we know that island was active (ie post temple construction, pre Maxwell imprisonment) then we have information that can be analyzed by an army of frogs.
IMO there is zero reason that data can't be acquired via court order, or via some White Hat that has deep enough pockets (granted I don't know how much that data would cost & have not looked at the dates) buying the data, and then releasing that data for Anons to analyze. There is nothing tying the UID directly to any individuals publicly (see Google or Apple for that I for) unless law enforcement gets warrants to force those phone/device providers to give up true potential suspects.
I like the way you think. Also have you seen this information? Geo data to Epstein’s Island. https://x.com/Nancy023922191/status/1773975516657394130
I had not seen that. Thank you! Any idea where that data can be poured through? I am most interested in which devices were in the "temple" structure, and repeatedly went back.
Also how many of the devices that attended the island, also attended Diddy parties, or ping on any of the other known child trafficking hubs that guys like Tim Ballard exposed?
I honestly have no idea. I just remember seeing posts like this that showed all of the cell phones that were turned on and then a Q post to the effect that these people are stupid and we have it all.
Okay I will sit here and pray and watch everyone swear like a sailor ..hehe.
I learnt awhile back not to react immediately and just simmered it in as it is.. 72 hrs and all
Edit: my 1st reaction was F this.. wtf.. universe trolling with us or what???
Yeah, liberals already like to mock us as "the Qanons that believe everyone is a trafficker except their dear old orange leader," while posting a picture of Jeff and Trump together, and this certainly isn't going to help.
Who cares about them? Everyone knows those pictures are photoshopped. We shouldn't engage with them or take them seriously.
You can't trust anything the libs are pushing. I usually assume that anything they show is photoshopped or fabricated. It makes things easier when you don't play their games. Everyone who talks about them being friends and partying together, that's all fake news. President Trump said he didn't matter much, that he hasn't been on his plane, or been to his 'stupid' island. Case closed.
So the whole "everything that I find inconvenient is a lie" routine, huh? That's the perfect tactic of a lazy mind.
How many times do we have to learn this lesson? If the liberals are saying it, then its a lie. Fake news. It's that simple.
Plenty of times liberals have said thing we agree with. You just ignore them when it's inconvenient for you.
The Deep State has been trying to seed evidence for years.
Definitely a 72 hour rule type of news, but not the news I wanted to hear to end the weekend…
Now all the pedos will move back to the US.... GOTHCA!!!
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I am still waiting to read the actual memo!
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Trump and team is always 3-5 steps ahead. There IS A LIST and maybe it is not being referred to as "client list", but something else. Wait for the reactions and the traitors to stick out so we know exactly who NOT TO TRUST.
MAYBE purposeful mis-info?
If this is True, then I am now questioning Trump and his administration. Even more so, if this is true then Q failed us.
This draws more attention to Trump's relationship with Epstein. If you have nothing to hide, then release it all. Or, is it the Israelis that are preventing it from being released?
We deserved better. The victims deserved better. I pray that this is fake news.
It's Axios; don't fall for it.
i used to be all in with Qs plan however im now sitting at 10% trust of the plan
-fine with the downvotes, ive been here since day dot so ive been through the motions before
We're winning like crazy, and then there's people like this. Obviously, the plan is working just fine. Maybe it isn't all happening like you thought it would, but that's not Q's fault, it is your expectations that need to be adjusted. Everything happens according to the plan. The Deep State and Global Cabal are being purged before our very eyes and for all that, you're only sitting at 10%? Sounds like you're the exact type of person that the re-education centers will be for.
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I’ll say it, Trump has done some great things, and we are far better off with him at the helm right now than Kamala, but I’m definitely beginning to wonder what lists he might be on.
Yeah maybe we are all have a bias here that we forget about because we think we’re right about him. But we need to start looking at everyone through a critical lense.
It’d seem obvious that with all the attacks he’s been under, dropping some real evidence related to any pedo involvement would have stopped his campaign quick like. But maybe this is like playing with nukes. If one guy goes down everyone is going down.
Just like everyone else, I’ll give it a little time but if this becomes an official response, we’re cooked.
The only sliver of hope, if you can even call it that, is that things are SO BAD and horrific as far as Pizzagate/Pedo Ring, that they made the assessment that it is better to eat this shit and just lie because the truth would be too damaging.
I still don’t buy that because the truth should always come out no matter what, but I can at least understand that line of thinking.
My guy, I checked your post history for the last 4 months, can you come up with any new material?
Trump was the only person to respond to the victims attorneys request for celebrities and politicians to help implicate Epstein.
And yes, Trump was THE president who finally had Epstein arrested. Funny that. Who cares that he died, his reign is over.
What we need now is justice for the victims.
Nothing points to Trump as participating.
Epstein was also arrested under a Democrat. Then was given a sweetheart deal by a prosecutor. Then Trump hired that same prosecutor to work in the White House. Then hired bill barr a attorney general, whose dad was the first person to hire Epstein, teaching at a school…
Then Epstein is killed
Just saying… it’s weird
Oh I agree, it is weird.
And unless people are ARRESTED AND IMPRISONED then I really can't argue you against you.
Trump needs to step it up. Bondi is useless. Kash and Dan are running interference. I can only presume it's because disclosure just isn't the right time.
People talk of doomers on here and I'll be the first to admit that following a plan that could be complex may feel, at times, impossible but holy batman this is pathetic.
Elon doesn't have dirt, he said Trump was in the Epstein files which is not news since we know Trump was on Epstein's plane more than once, flight logs are considered "Epstein files", that was released years ago long before Elon said anything.
The feud almost certainly fake and exaggerated but I'm also no fan of Elon Musk and his apparent love, or abuse, of H1B.
Elon didn't indicate anything. Elon stated a fact which we all already knew. Trump is named in the Epstein files. He's not implicated on anything. Nor is there even a hint of wrongdoing. His name simply pops up in the file log transcript. What Elon stated is a fact. Reread what he said specifically. He did not say he's in the logs of the flights, nor implicated in any way. You're on a forum that takes every word critically. So reread.
https://www.newsweek.com/jeffrey-epstein-victims-attorney-talks-about-donald-trump-claims-1857298
Here you go:
Bradley Edwards, an attorney who represented a number of those who claimed Epstein was involved in their abuse, spoke about the financer's relationship with Trump during an interview with Derrick Broze of The Conscious Resistance Network, a self-styled "independent media organization" that claims to work "to create a world where corporate and state power does not rule over the lives of free human beings."
Asked about Epstein's relationship with Trump he replied: "The only thing I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who in 2009, when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people that I wanted to talk to them, he is the only person who picked up the phone and said 'lets just talk, I'll give you as much time as you want, I'll tell you what you need to know.'
Edwards said Trump: "Was very helpful in the information he gave and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever but had good information that checked out and that helped us and that we didn't have to take a deposition of him."
Never talked to Trump?
Yeah, why doesn't an attorney release everything, like the interview to implicate the single most notorious human trafficker in modern history, onto the internet?
Random lawyer? You mean prominent lawyer Bradley Edwards, who wrote a BOOK on his fight? "Relentless Pursuit: My Fight for the Victims of Jeffrey Epstein."
You didn't even read the article, did you? You'd rather choose to hate Trump based on your own internal biases then spend time reading cited sources that show you the truth. You don't care about the truth. You don't care about the victims. You don't care about anything other than feeling like you're right and you chose your identity crusade on the topic of "orange man bad."
Why don't you prove to the class that Trump participated in Epstein's vile deviant behavior. Please explain to all of us, on a forum dedicated to upending Pizzagate through an operation of which Trump is central, that Trump is the bad guy we've been chasing all along.
Please provide direct sources that prove your claim and not your "well there was a photo" logic.
Lot of sleeper faggot accounts poking their heads out on this thread. Must have all got the same memo.
u/KeeperOfTheGlizzy - 4 year old account, still a handshake (first comment 23 days ago). 1 post / 14 comment upvotes.
u/Condor819 - 4 year old account. 344 post / 551 comment.
etc etc.
It’s like they waited for this announcement to show up. At least I’m consistent with my occasional impatience and dooming. I’m human. But we’re winning economically that’s a big deal.
Trump is literally doing everything Ron Paul laid out that would fix this economy and reverse globalism. Big week for trade deal announcements.
the best thing about faggots is burning them.
you understand that the FBI have the best 2 people in charge to expose this crime and theyve come out and said nothing to see? Theres no where to go from here
According to Axios and a site called "Raw Story". The story broke almost an hour ago and no other agency has reported on it yet.
One thing to note, the owner of Axios was close friends with Maxwell.
Note: the "memo" obtained by Axios has no signature, no name, no authorizing agent.
Couple of Monikers "DOJ, "FBI" and that's it. I mean, really?
Its hilarious, the lack of intellectual curiosity, isnt it? Well, maybe hilarious isnt the right word. How about tragic?
Indeed, there is an exceedingly fine line between hilarity and tragedy....
Yeah exactly. As if the doj is breaking news like this on a Sunday night and holiday weekend. Ok right
If it were true, they'd want to drop it on a Sunday night for sure - it makes them look retarded.
Eh they have been doing those on Friday afternoon. They drop good stuff then too. This story stinks to high heaven
Axios has posted so many bullshit "exclusives" that they should never be used as a source for anything.
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I thought it was on Pam Bondis desk! Didn’t she say she was going to release it in two weeks?
I'm suspicious that Bondi is a plant. Maybe she is there so that she can be monitored to root out the moles. Remember, we can't trust anyone besides President Trump.
Trump said on day 1 he was going to release the Epstein files. Feel like he played us!!
I remember in an interview he said he would have to consider it, and make sure innocent people weren't harmed. He has never committed to releasing the files in full. We need to pay attention when President Trump tells us things, I haven't been expecting any kind of release, and was very suspicious when Bondi said they were on her desk, but then didn't immediately release them.
rofl so transparent
Not buying it
"we've investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong"
SOP for the FBI. And just about every other government body/organization
Diddy basically walks and now Patel and Co. are telling us the Epstein saga is basically nonsense.
We are fucked. I know the Pizzagate stuff is real, I feel it in my soul, but if everyone involved is just getting off Scott free, then we know the cause is hopeless because everyone controlling the levers of power is on the relevant lists. We live in an increasingly evil and sick world.
I'm not feeling good about any of this. Unless there's something to do with Israel last and this needs to be covered up for some unknown reason.
Either way, the beast is still active, free, and nothing is being done.
How is Fauci, Gates, and company not being indicted for killing millions of people? My main hope was JUSTICE. We want some FUCKING JUSTICE.
Maybe my hopium made me retarded and naive.
We live in a fallen and sinful world, and Satan is the Prince of this planet. It’s a sad reality, but it’s the truth. There will never be real justice here.
I’m learning more and more to just make sure my house is in order and I’m around good people who are awake to the Truth. I cannot control if that Truth ever comes out. Head down, and nose to the grindstone.
But it is very disheartening that is for sure.
Come on man, is this from the Bee?
What are your thoughts, brothers and sister?
Possibly "disinformation is necessary"? Or real. But I feeeeel more like this is intended to create complacency somehow...
Axios is the source (dubious). Sunday night release (dubious).
I'm smelling clickbait and a cheap attempt to change the narrative from Trump's exceptional handling of the Texas flash flood situation: immediate response, hundreds of lives saved. Everyone involved reacted professionally, immediately, and made the best of a terrible circumstance. It's still a tragedy, but could have been so, so much worse.
Also, China speculation is simmering over the last week. Xi Jinping may be losing control. He's been conspicuously absent.
Russia's advancing on all fronts. Ukraine's on the verge of breaking. Hegseth just stopped the weapons flow, including anti-air defenses. Russia's now free to send in their strategic bombers to provide active air support along the front line.
Trump just got his massive tax cuts locked in and his funding for ICE deportations hitting his two biggest domestic priorities: juice the economy and remove the illegals.
Narrative change is desirable for the revolutionaries.
24-hour rule applies here. We'll see if it's fake news.
Also this Unusual Whales account has been spamming sus clickbait for quite some time already.
My thoughts... I call BULLSH!T 🐂💩
Who will find the sauce for this?
https://www.axios.com/2025/07/07/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-client-list-trump-administration
It’s gay and fake I’m calling it right now
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Yeah. And I’m the next King of England. Everyone knows he had a client list. And Everyone knows a lot of very powerful people were interested in him dying prematurely.
Kash is Kompromised
rofl no cure for stupid
Trump and Q told you about Epstein before he was ever on your radar. Q+ spent the last 8+ years giving proofs beyond a shadow of doubt -- and now some libtard rag publishes unsourced claims and everyone is losing their mind.
The sheer coordination of accounts who haven't posted anything in the last 6 months and then came crawling out of the woodwork to respond to this thread is mind boggling.
If this article concerns you, then I'm just going to outright say it -- you're gullible. Did you even read the article with an ounce of skepticism?
The article isn't credible. Read it, looking for sauce that confirms the premise of Epstein not having a list -- there is none.
They quote Bongino and Patel -- but not in relation to the premise of Epstein not having a list, they were talking about the suicide.
The premise boils down to an unsourced memo with no proof, confirmations or other sauce referenced. If you've read that article, and researched the bias of Axios, and still concerned about Trump -- you're one of two things.
or
This was a massive and coordinated psyop/information warfare campaign. It was well coordinated with the bots, shills and trolls to appear at just the right time all over maga and conservative normie forums. The Trump team has turned it to their advantage as now that the initial outcry has subsided, calls for the list amplify. This will be written about in future War Manuals in the chapters following Hannibal, Napolean and Pattons battles.
Im with ya magavoices. There are some truly dumb people here that are listening to some that are fully dishonest. If I fell for this shit Id change my name to hide my eternal embarrassment.
They only reason I could forgive this lie is because the list is too useful to go public with at this time.
It is a blackmail resource too useful to release until it has outlived it's usefulness.
Bongino is a TERRIBLE liar and it shows all over his face. He doesn't believe a word he is saying.
What a random Sunday news release
So it turns out crimes against children are ok
If the DOJ and FBI have reached a conclusion then they can tell the American people directly. Let's see if there's a corresponding piece on a .gov website soon.
I, for one, think Jeffrey Epstein is still alive. Escaped by William Barr.
What was Virginia Guiffre doing down there, then? Just taking a vacation? Just hanging out with Epstein, Maxwell, and Prince Andrew to play tiddly winks?
I voted for Trump three times in hopes that he would go after the criminals in Washington and Hollywood, especially the ones who harmed children. If there aren't any prosecutions of big names by the next election, I am done voting forever.
"We're combing through thousands of hours of footage" "I have the files on my desk" --two weeks later "it doesn't exist"
Yea there's something at play here.
Let's see what happens...
(Also, just saw this post, wonder if this is also just a coincidence)
https://x.com/Breaking911/status/1942038203449450558
Very interesting.
tldr?
The lesson learned from all this is if a child in your family is raped, kill the pervert and plead temporary insanity. 99.9% of the Pedo-elite are still out there eating our kids, Trust the Plan (Unless you are a hapless victim)
It's a shit post.
Shit post meaning...It's BULLSHIT...FAKE.
Huh!?
He has films
In the immortal words of Sheldon Cooper - BAZINGA!
I'm livid, but I'm also a big fan of the 48 hour rule, or 24 rule. Knee jerk reactions never work out well.
Some media are running with the story, like the NY Post, and social media is running with it. I do not want to post my thoughts, because I am loyal to only one, and he is not a political leader. I wish I was shocked, but I am not. Brothers and Sisters in Christ, we must pray and ask His will be done, even if we do not like the outcome. I just hope Virginia Giuffre is wrapped in the safety and rest of Our Father, however she died.
Kash strikes again. Or is that strike out? Makes me tired.
What a gay finding