Let’s say you’re a person who has been paying into social security your whole life but you never married or had children. You die before reaching the age to collect social security. Who gets the money that you paid for? The answer is nobody, they just keep it. Let’s say your spouse dies before you and your children are grown. Who gets your benefits when you die? The answer is nobody, they just keep it. I have a friend that lost her husband when she was 58 years old and her children were grown. She had to wait until she turned 60 before she could start collecting his benefits. She is now collecting his benefits but still having to work because it’s not enough for her to survive on. She is having to pay into social security for her current job but she will never collect one penny from the money she is currently paying for because she is only allowed to collect on either her husband’s or her own but not both. Why? Didn’t both husband and wife pay into social security? Why shouldn’t she be able to collect from both? The only way a couple can collect from both is to collect it while both are still alive. We become eligible at the age of 62 but we are encouraged to wait until we are 67 because we will collect more each month. However, is it really more? If we wait until we are 67, how much have we collected by the time we are 67? The answer is “0” and we have missed out on 5 years of benefits that we could have already received. I believe they are playing the odds in hope that people will die before they collect. None of us have control or know when we will die. How many people do you think die between the age of 62-67 while waiting and never collect any money they have paid for? I have done the math and it’s astonishing. In addition to all of this, they are also collecting from illegal aliens that are using fake social security numbers that will never and should never collect any benefits. With the technology that exists today there is no excuse for the system they use to not be programmed to immediately create an alert the moment a duplicate ss# is being used. Some people will argue that it’s not the social security administration’s job to do this but it’s the employer’s responsibility to verify each applicant by using e-verify before they hire. However, E-Verify is not being enforced as a law to all employers in the country. It varies from state to state so only honest employers use it while corrupt employers that live in a state that is not enforcing it continue to hire illegals because they know they can get away with it. Every time this has been attempted to make it a law nationwide, it has not passed. Here is a good article that shows how E-Verify is not being enforced.
The truth is that social security has been collecting billions for decades from people that they will never pay benefits to. No one can convince me that they are paying out more benefits than what they collect. Yet, they have the nerve to tell us that social security is going broke and I’ve been hearing that my whole life.
This has long been known as a bug/feature of SS. I would have much rather kept my money and invested it in the stock market, but by law it was confiscated from me. It's just the hand I was dealt and I will feel no sorrow or guilt about living a long healthy life and collecting more than I paid in. PS, I AM very healthy, didn't take the COVID-19 scam jab, don't trust big med or big pharma ,and come from a line of people who lived well into their 90s.
I am currently attempting to take full legal ownership over my Birth Certificate (title to asset) and then place the title and all Social Security benefits and assets tied to my SSN (collateralized asset) into an LLC (or common law Trust). I believe this then allows the LLC to make a claim against SS Admin Corp for all the proceeds of bonds, etc issued on behalf of the collateralized asset (my SSN) as LLC intellectual and financial property. SS Admin Corp appears to be a private corporation that has issued somewhere between $80-120M in bonds using my SSN as collateral that then earn them trading profits as well.
Your birth state Municipal Service Corporation (i.e. STATE OF CA CORP) appears to "own" your birth certificate, but then appears to license it or share title with the SS Admin Corp via the US Treasury that appears to own all the MSC State Corps (exact title sharing mechanism not yet discovered). This appears to be the case for all US citizens born after 15OCT1933. You are literally "property of the state" if you do not reclaim your sovereignty and ownership of your OWN title (Done through double authenticated birth certificate process).
"Presenting the "Collateralization of Stolen Title (CoST) Scheme" of the AMERICAN BAR ASSOC. CORP. currently used for property tax (COUNTY), auto tax (STATE), and labor tax (SSN, SS ADMIN CORP).": https://greatawakening.win/p/19BGOoV1AX/presenting-the-collateralization/
I hope you're successful.
I remember you mentioning this a good while back. Any progress?
Still working (priority #3). Had to neutralize communications attacks and attempted debanking (post Aug7 EO). Nearly done putting the IRS into submission, and just kicked off 2-year process to get property tax refunds (potential class action). Just stripped a County CORP Treasurer of immunity using 6-27, 6-28, and 7-1-24 SCOTUS rulings. Now can attack with Federal Civil Fraud, Tax Fraud, and Deprivation of Rights statutes (civil).
Document and turn it into a “Stop being a Slave for Dummies” guide plskthx!
Is it just me or is the SS system as it exists today not just one gigantic ponzi scheme, similar to what others go to prison for?
Due to the federal reserve system of deflating the value of our dollar many "social" programs were put into effect to mask the fact that we are being systematically ripped off generation after generation.
Why do we need a social security program at all? Why can't a person who has worked their whole life retire comfortably at a reasonably young age? Because the dollar does not hold value, inflation, taxes on everything, low wages and outsourced high paying jobs that's why. The whole economic system is corrupt and it's falling apart. The banks won't get their digital money system or another world war to mask this colossal scheme to steal our wealth. The jig is just about up.
Some notes to add:
Collect at Age | Receive % Benefits | Odds to Die
Source: https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
Meanwhile, their major assets and liabilities are: current assets, current receipts, current liabilities (I.e. “you”).
Source: https://www.ssa.gov/OACT/ProgData/assets.html
“We are gonna go broke!!!” = “Parents! Unwed! Demand higher taxes on the next generation so we can skim more!!!”
"by RULE, written by our unelected RULERS it was confiscated...."
"Laws" are immutable facts of reality...
We must change the way we think and speak about things to free ourselves from the LEGAL (Liege-Lord) matrix that RULES over its serfs.
So you would gamble your "senescence insurance" premiums on the stock market?
I don't think that's wise. Stock market isn't a guarantee. Now if you said bonds, I might agree, since they are a guaranteed yield, however humble. You'd not get the same benefits unfortunately, you'd prob get 1/3 of them.
Think of SS as "getting old insurance". Do you want to live in a society that does not take care of its elderly? ISn't there a sci fi film from the 1970s where when you get to retirement age, they execute you? Oh, I believe its called Logans Run
I'd rather have SS than Logans run. Or putting an auxilliary pension program into a casino only to have a bubble burst as it always does. Next bubble to burst is AI
Better have gold
In fact, if you said gold / physical metals instead of stock market i might agree with you that THAT is a better safety net, because we've seen in our lifetime proof that FIAT is not just logically but morally incorrect
I have gold and silver, and have done pretty well over the years with the stock market.
Someone downvoted this?
This is why they wanted the vax to take out many of the seniors.
In Canada they also use assisted suicide, and encourage it among the elderly and disabled.
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I am currently waiting to collect SS survivor benefits.
I can collect on hers until I decide to collect on my own. Can't do both.
Yes, SS was designed as a scam and sold as a safety net for seniors.
The worst part is when scumbag politicians start handing it out to illegals and people who just showed up in the country.
I've been told my whole life there wouldn't be anything left for me to collect by the time I'm old enough to collect it...
Cue the stories about sulfur dioxide from catalytic converters and now aerial spraying and even vaxtard shedding, with a healthy dose if Monsanto residue on everything I eat...
Makes Ponzi look like Fonzi...AY!!! 👍👍👍
u/#catdance
Are we allowed to say aerial spraying?
I am....
If you start collecting at 62, you receive only about 70% of your Full Retirement Amount per check. If you NEED the money to live, or if people in your family tend to die in their 60s and 70s, you should just take the money.
If you wait till full retirement age of 67, you get 100%.
If you wait till 70, you get 124% of the FRA, which is the max percentage.
There are many payout percentages in between 70% and 124%, correlating to the exact year and month you decide to start receiving benefits.
Note that "No tax on social security" didn't happen. One of the exceedingly rare promises made, promises missed.
Along with "We'll repeal and replace Fauxbamacare with something much better," "Mexico is paying for the wall," and "The real, official historical name of the party is 'Democrat Party'," by my count that brings the total to four...out of approximately 17,777 promises made. (That's a terrible record, especially considering the 17,773 promises kept! Qeq)
But if you add up the difference between taking it early and waiting, it is something like another 7 years AFTER the later collection start date that it is even. How many people live to over 76? And if you invest what you get from SS if you start early, you can probably more than make up that difference later. It's almost always better to start withdrawing it early.
However, if you retire early, you don't have much money to both invest and live on. They've got you coming and going.
Collecting SS is not retiring. Average SS is around 2K per month - not enough for most people to retire on, IMO. The big catch is the income limit before penalty if you take before full benefit age ($23,400 per year, then they penalize $1 for each $2 over that amount). Take SS early, keep working, invest wisely until you are ready to stop working or cut back how much you work. If you are a high earner, wait until full retirement since you won't get much after penalty anyway.
Trust me, I've seen every video and read every viewpoint on the topic. There are reliable professionals who differ on the "almost always better" part.
In the end it's a personal choice
I think the no tax on SS ended up being a 6k deduction from your SS so you pay taxes on the rest depending on your income.
6k deduction for those over 65 regardless if you are on SS or not - if a married couple and both over 65 filing jointly it works out to $12k deduction. It sunsets in 2028 so it's only temporary. I think it was a compromise until a better solution could be written into law. Most people only get around $2000 per month in SS so it effectively eliminates taxes for those that only have SS as their sole source of income.
A: A few states, including California and Illinois, have laws that limit or discourage E-Verify use beyond federal requirements.
Imagine that!
Exactly!!
In a simple explanation, whenever you see any government program administered with a never-ending maze of rollout rules, guidelines, compliance, qualifications, etc, etc... well, you can be assured it isn't designed for your best interest. Know of any exceptions to this?
The American public have been decieved and tricked for way too long. All the magician's tricks are being exposed... thus rendering the scams impotent. Fun to watch it happen. Love to speed it up.
they have doled out to people scamming the system and gov bureaucrats have used it as a giant piggy bank.....when i signed up it was 65 & out then they changed the rules when it was the gov that fuked everyone..........
My first wife collected SS on her first husband who died at 24, for their 3 kids. He made good money and in 1984 she received just over 1,000 a month, by 1991 the amount was almost $1,500, So she collected far more per year than he paid in.
SS originally collected 1% on 3,000 income max, so the original SS was 30 a year paid in. My generation built up a huge trust fund as they slowly increased the tax to 7.65% and the employer match.
When I first had a job at 14 ... In 1972, the FICA withholding rate for both employees and employers was 5.2% on the first $9,000 of earnings.
In 1982, the FICA withholding rate for both employers and employees was 6.7% of an employee's wages, with a maximum taxable earnings limit of $32,400.
In 1992, the FICA withholding rate for employees was 7.65%, split between Social Security and Medicare. The total FICA rate paid by both the employee and employer was 15.3%. Employee FICA rates for 1992 Social Security tax: 6.2% on the first $55,500 of earnings. Medicare tax: 1.45% on the first $130,200 of earnings.
I'm in my 47th year of paying in...
That is not how it works. Social Security is no different than any other insurance program: you don't get "out" the exact dollar bills you put into it. You get paid out based on the contingencies of things like if you live that long, etc.
Show us this math.
As you point out, aliens pay into the system and do not receive the benefits (they don't all have fake Social Security Numbers, I don't know why you added that part). This helps to ensure that there is more money in that system to pay for the proper beneficiaries.
Who ever claimed this?
I didn’t mention Medicare in this post because it is just like any insurance company. You pay into it and hope you never have to use it. Social Security is not insurance, it’s a retirement plan so it’s completely different and if you pay into a retirement plan, you should be able to collect it when you retire. I am pointing out all the ways we are not getting what we are paying for. The reason I pointed out the illegals is because it’s just another example of how they are collecting retirement benefits from people that they will never pay. Who is claiming that they are paying out more than they collect? It’s all the so called experts that have been telling us for decades that Social Security is going broke and won’t be there for us when we reach retirement age. Aren’t they telling us when they make these statements that they are paying out more than they collect? Why else would they be saying that it’s going broke?
Social Security is an insurance scheme. Its literally named "Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance".
And? If you are paying into that system and you know that you are, there's no harm, no foul. It helps keep it solvent, which is a good thing.
Well, I don't know what they are saying because as you pointed out, they are all wrong. Social Security is not going to become insolvent.
This is why y'all bootstraps people shouldn't laugh at millenials and Gen Z who want nothing to do with it and somehow figure out how to get by work free or are lucky enough to have family who will give them a place to live so they can just part time or gig for the rest. It's a scam and the government is robbing everyone
I know that I have several pet peeves about SSA one of the ones that gets me ticked is they take Medicare out of your (if you're still working) pay working part-time and charge you for Medicare if you are of age. Also, if you are working and you fall under Medicare, lucky you, you pay Medicare quarterly from your own pocket, unless your employer keeps you on their health plan. This SS system is terrible. I hope this understandable to any who read it. I will say it confuses me.
Who is "they" in the "they" keep it? You mean the government? You mean specifically the social security program? You mean that when people who dont' get the benefits, it goes back to the pool of resources for the insured? You mean SS is a kind of insurance program and if no one--for example gets in a car wreck-- then the pool of resources isn't dimished as quickly?
Is there a "they" here that is scooping up unused SS money? If so, prove it. We'll shut that down
Otherwise there is no argument here other than "THANK YOU, people who die without kids...you're helping the SS pool not be diminished as quickly"
Just the way the FDR Administration designed it. They needed a lot of cash to push their socialist agenda.
Isn't this one of the reasons its still afloat at all? With all of the recently found fraud this is even more apparent. Now when I look at this as a country on the whole as a "capitalist collected, semi-socialist distributed" system this kind of imbalance is needed and actually a positive in the system. This has to do with how long social security is paid out vs. how much has been contributed. For example, if someone collects social security until they are 105, or even 95 this would mean they would be collecting greater than they put in. So in a levelling type of effort to keep paying out social security in these cases there needs to be more than just "you put this much in and so should get this much out" behind the scenes. I would argue that there needs to be non-compensation based measures in place like this in order for the system to last. I also believe that it is or can-be an excellent system for Americans in general and a plus for living in this great country. If that means some things can be perceived as unfair because not all that goes in per individual goes out to that individual in order to provide more to someone else that happens to live far longer than the system could account for I think that is acceptable. I'm just offering another take on this in kind of a devil's advocate stance, although I do agree with it personally for the most part. I also think that once the majority of the fraud has been dealt with it will or "should" be seen that it isn't going broke. Wouldn't it be great if there was a slight surplus? something that could be quantified and distributed out? The goal of course would be to have no surplus apart from a reasonable cushion. Ok, my two cents on this. Thanks for the topic.
I see what you’re saying but wouldn’t it make sense for the Social Security administration to be investing the money they collect in a way to gain interest to make up for for the low percentage of people that that out live what they put in? I don’t think they are doing that and could be an easy solution. I’m not sure of the actual numbers of how many people live to be 95 or older but seems like it is probably a small percentage.
I wouldn't trust the government to invest in anything. That is all they need is a pile of money to give out to their friends for shady investment deals.
You are right about that but isn’t it sad that we can’t trust our government to do the right thing with our money?
True that. They can't be trusted with what they already have much less give them even more to play with. It just ends up in their own pockets and those of their crony friends, not ours. We are simply the leeks to be harvested.
I agree with this also... neither is a full solution I don't think.
Widows can collect for dependent children but, I think, Reagan stopped it from continuing through college. Survivor benefits stop at 18.
My mother was a young widow with 2 minor children. I was already 19 and working while going to college. So, she collected on my two siblings. She had to return to work after being a stay at home mom. It all worked fine till she got a letter from social security demanding repayment for my sister. What happened was that my sister at 19 was supposed to be going to school. Her last semester she just quit going while still collecting benefits. When social security checked the attendance they found out she had not been going to school. My mom ended up having to pay that money back. Needless to say she could have killed my sister. All because of a loser boyfriend that she eventually dumped.
When asked today how she got through it all being such a young widow, she says that she didn't have time to feel sorry for herself because she was left to raise 3 teenagers with their own problems.
Have to be married at least 10 years to collect. And no, no one else can collect.
Oh, even if you're married, if you collect SS or SS disability, and your income is higher than theirs would be to start, you get ZIP. Ask me how I know....... All my husbands SS is left untouched for the govt to waste it. I get nothing.
SS benefits go up 8% per extra year of working after 62. It takes 12years before you hit break even.Th en after that you start collecting more over your life
The bigger issue with SSI is they give $$ to many classes of people that NEVER paid into it, disabled people, kids, illegals etc. They (politicians) have been raiding it to pay pet projects for years.
OMG I am so sick of people going on and on about how no one gets to collect the RSDI for someone who died!
Please look at your SSA Statement! Contrary to what you believe, you did NOT contribute that much into the program. Add up your yearly contributions up from when you started working and actually payed into SSA, because there are so-o-o-o-o-o many people that think because they worked OFF THE BOOKS that it somehow counts toward their SSA. (news flash....IT DOESN'T!) So once you have added everything up, multiply it by 2 because your employer paid the same into your account.
Now look at what your estimated payment is going to be. Take that total and divide it by the amount you are expected to receive every month. It will probably be paid back to you in 4, m-a-y-b-e 5 years. So every month after that is something that the rest of the US is paying for.....to include all those dead people that you are so worried about.
Now the average life expectancy for men in the US is 75.8 years and 81.1 for women. If we assume that you take your RSDI at 65 when you become eligible for Medicare (which is the average, by the way) then if you live beyond 70 you are being supported by the American people. So stop with the bitching about someone not collecting off of someone else.
News flash, most women born prior to 1950, did not work long enough to qualify for SSA, or their benefit was so low they ended up qualifying for SSI!
How do I know? I worked for SSA. I saw so-o-o-o-o many records and had to explain to so-o-o-o-o many people why they did not qualify or why they qualified for so little, so I have a pretty good idea how the system works.
And as for keeping your money and investing it.......yeah, no. Most people cannot invest worth a damn, so that is a really big BS excuse why people should not be allowed to elect to withdraw. I can tell you of many, many stories where people lost their entire savings through bad investments.
So what happens when all these financial wizards lose all their money and don't have a pot to piss in? They end up getting welfare, otherwise known as SSI for the Aged, so, again, the American people end up supporting your ass.
So just stop complaining because you all are not as smart as you think you are and are NOT financial wizards when it comes to investing. In the end the American people are gonna support your ass.
You actually bring up some good points that I have not thought about which is why we should be able to have respectful debates. However, there is much that I don’t understand regarding how the whole system was set up that could allow so much abuse to take place. I would love to see Social Security work in a way that we could trust it.
It interesting to see how this article starts with some real problems to address and then moves to offer a Digital ID like (in Problem-Reaction-Solution), … as if we didn’t have this other article pinned at the same time:
https://greatawakening.win/p/1AR0iuA1jQ/good-god-the-swiss-people-just-a/c/
… with the comment quotting UK Starmer saying: “No Digital ID, no work. It's as simple as that”.
My friend was dying at 68, he married a lady friend her age was 45, you go girl
I made a spread sheet going (70, 140...) in column A, (100, 200...) in column B, and (124, 248) in column C. At the age of 80, the retired at 67 starts making more money at 80. The retire at 70 starts making more money at 82. If you think you will make it past 82, wait... Those would also be the least mobile years for most...
I did the same calculation for myself before I retired at age 60 in 2017. I came up with 80 1/2 for the breakeven age. I took youngest allowed retirement date at that time and I am glad I did. You do get COLA (cost of living adjustment) raises added to SS after you retire. That COlA added up. As I approach 70, I am already almost making the same as what I would have made if I waited. I am fortunate to be in this situation as the Biden era inflation made for some heftier than normal COLA increases. So this may not be as favorable now. On a separate note, but in keeping true to this original post. After you qualify for SS, you have to wait a a month and a half for first payment. Why? You have to "earn" the benefit before they pay you. Kinda like waiting for your first check when you get a new job. I thoughts were "I earned this benefit over the last 40 plus years. Yet, when you die they do not send any payment for the month in which you die, even though you EARNED it the month before. Yeah, the bureaucrats have placed bean counter policies on top of the law.
Gratz on retirement! Great points as well. My Dad always withdrew his entire SS check the day it hit the bank. They tried to take the money back, but his "estate" was broke. That last check helped pay for his funeral. I truly miss him but still shake my head at how he got every penny he could because he earned it.
think they said if you start at 62, and some body starts at 67.. At 72 they both had brought in the same money. I was looking at 62 on BD, if I wait two months, I will get an extra 40 dollars a month.. But I would miss two months at lower rate, if you take those two months missed, divide by $40... it would take 7.2 years to get even for missing first two months.. LoL Think everyone loves 67 because you can collect & work without penalty,
Not arguing that SS isn't a ponzi scheme, but there's a couple of pieces of misinformation. Her friend decided to take early benefits which lowers benefits substantially. Also the money she earns does in fact go toward an increase in benefits but the amount is in line with her decision to take lower benefits. I think early claims make the limit you can make kick in. Her taking early benefits was a terrible decision.
Also. When SS funds were in a SS exclusive "lock box" the going broke argument had weight. But I think it was LBJ who led the effort to allow the funds to be used for the general budget. They can't be invested or grow as your work retirement funds do. Additionally the amount taken out has increased significantly and is matched by your employer. I bet I paId 10, maybe 20, times what my father paid.
The widows and orphan program transitioned into the primary retirement program for many workers. If SS is your retirement plan, I would strongly urge you to reevaluate, to include life insurance for a single wage earner.
I thought it was in the mid '80s that the SS fund was raided by Congress.
Technically we're both right. See: https://www.ssa.gov/history/BudgetTreatment.html
I certainly agree that no one should be relying on just social security for their retirement. It’s unfortunate for my friend that her husband did not leave her enough life insurance. He died of cancer so all the money she had was exhausted in medical bills and funeral expenses. She had no other choice other than to take it as soon as she could in addition to working and continuing to having social security taken from her current paychecks. I don’t understand how she will ever benefit from what is currently coming out of her paychecks. You mentioned that money she is earning will go towards an increase in her benefits but I don’t understand this since she will never be collecting from her own. She will always have to rely on her husband’s because she will never surpass the amount that he paid in. He was the main bread winner and she was a stay at home Mom for most of their married life. If there is something I am missing here? I would love to hear how that would work.
Awww. You are right. Didn't realize she was collecting his. No health insurance, insufficient life insurance and no private retirement or 401k is a mess. And no assets is assuredly limiting. I am very sorry for her.
If she was a stay at home mom for years the calculation for her own social security benefits will be lower because they are a calculated average of 20 years paid in. If she recently had to return to work given her circumstances, that will not be enough of a 20 average for her to gain anything. My mother had to return to work after my father passed. After she retired she collected on my father's social security because hers was not enough.
Both spouses will receive the benefit of the higher paid spouse if one dies. I stayed home with my kids. If he goes first, I will receive the amount of his check. If I go first, he gets nothing.
Social Security was NEVER meant to be your only source of income in retirement! People did not attempt to save because they thought Social Security was gonna take care of them. Sorry, but I have no sympathy for anyone who failed to plan for their retirement. If you are a woman in your 60's you have even less sympathy from me because you grew up with the same messages as I did. So if you planned on someone else taking care of you and you don't have a lot to live on, then you hitched your horse to a loser!
My brother turned 64 in August and died 3 weeks later. No spouse or dependents. Nobody gets jack shit for all his years of labor.
I paid into SS all my life but my husband maxed his out. I am collecting half of his bc it was more than I would get since I took off time to raise our daughter. And when she was older I went back to work part time. Thankfully, my husband made enough money where I could stay home with her fully the first five years of her life. And then gradually returned to work during the time she was in school.
However as a Senior citizen I am seeing that my medical costs are significantly higher than they were when I was younger. Medicare especially with a supplemental does cover a lot of my medical care. Especially what must have been a very expensive back surgery I had. Stayed two nights in ICU a full week in the hospital and then spent another week in their in-house rehab. Everything was covered. (Before I went on Medicare I was on a form of Obamacare from my husband's office that didn't cover much at all).
Medicare costs are very high bc so many seniors need surgeries these days to replace body parts etc. And the hospitals, doctors and specialties cost a lot of money. Probably cost more than they should.
Having worked in the medical field for a time (nursing homes) I saw how they overtreated residents on Medicare until they were finally whittled down to Medicaid. Once they are on Medicaid those same clients had their services reduced bc the nursing homes didn't make money on them.
I saw many friends from my HS who passed before collecting their social security knowing full well they paid into it. But those that are on Medicare are spending quite a bit of it, too. There are many Seniors here in my neighborhood and so many of them have had multiple surgeries and treatments, Joint replacements, etc.
Scuse me sah but the govment borrows out of the SSA to fund all their give away programs. People you see that are young claiming to be bi-polar and drawing a welfare check---comes right our of SSA. Yeah, it is illegal to borrow from your 401K and other retirement programs like the one the US Congressmen are on but SSA is for the little people so thay "borrow" from it to fund all kids of BS but they NEVER pay it back. You always hear SSA going to run out of money but ya neva hear Welfare or Medicaid running short, do ya!
They have been “borrowing” from Social Security and never paying the funds back. I bet some of those monies go to NGOS, Soros, etc. for their pet projects.
SS is like everything else you pay or pay into-it's there for THEM to make money for nothing with your gapped tooth grinning adherence.
It's a tax
Let’s say your spouse dies before you and your children are grown? How could that happen since you pretty much have to be grown to have a spouse.
Update: I get it now. It should read: Let’s say your spouse dies before you, and your children are grown
It is a scam indeed