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This Joe Rogan Experience #2465 interview with Michael Shellenberger has me in a state of catatonic shock. YOU HAVE NEVER, EVER WATCHED ANYTHING THAT MAKES YOU SAY "you fucking cocksucking faggot! MORE THAN THIS. EVER. THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE PEAK FAGGOT FAGGOTRY. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS. (youtu.be) 🤡 CLOWNS 🤡
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– AnotherInTheFire 81 points 83 days ago +81 / -0

please explain why it's making your head explode. we're not gonna watch a 4 hours podast

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– Strelnieks 23 points 83 days ago +23 / -0

I listened to it while at work yesterday. Rogan and Sheckleberg bend over backwards gatekeeping for the greater New Babylon project. They also deflect and talk in circles quite a bit regarding the UFO/UAP/NHI subject.

The whole interview was rather dull and it's becoming very obvious in recent months how much gatekeeping and censoring Rogan has been doing to his own podcast. E.g. Rogan made several jump/cut edits and "bathroom breaks" for the last time Kurt Metzger was on just freely talking about all kinds of crazy shit anons are wise to, and he's supposed to be one of Rogan's comedy frens.

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– Island_Photo 6 points 83 days ago +6 / -0

You seem to be forgetting that Rogan leaned left before being cancelled for his covid cure podcast/statements.

Much like Soon the Dems moved left and left hi. Standing right of center.

How he is funded I don't know, but I assume that his sponsors/endorsements apply some pressure to him. She'll embers also emerged from the left as a result of cancel culture. In his case it was the Twitter files that GameCircle inef.him our attention.

Remember that we.need normues too.

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– The4thofJuly 4 points 83 days ago +4 / -0

I believe Rogan is part of the plan as well as a few other podcasters. They are pretending they don't understand the plan and are slowly leading more and more people into the plan. They use a technique in which, they pretend to 'not even like Trump or his actions (bending down to normie level - ie, "Iran war bad," "war is no good," "Trump no Good." Then over the course of time he brings them up to date in steps. If you aren't good at pattern recognition, you would never notice. He never gets too far ahead of the info dumps because he has to retain a vast number of normies in his audience and many of them don't like Trump, don't know shit about Q or the plan and would walk away. It's better to keep them and help them along. Let's face it, he is a very important part of the great awakening. He was a nuclear bomb for the whole ivermectin part of the "show.". I do hope you are enjoying the show.

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– SOGWAP 2 points 82 days ago +2 / -0

Rogan is off on his own safari. Only found a few of his podcast ever actually worth anything regards to understanding anything. Mostly just questions, some not evennin the ballpark of MAGA. Its all over the place and causes confusion. Have fun with that.

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– AllOuttaBubblegum 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0

Of course he is, 100%.

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– WeAreTheWorld 17 points 83 days ago +17 / -0

Decopy.ai summary:

Summary This video is a long-form, free-flowing conversation focusing primarily on controversial and complex contemporary topics, including U.S. foreign policy (especially regarding Iran and Venezuela), immigration and border control, the crisis of homelessness and governance in California cities, urban crime and policing, the phenomenon of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAPs) or UFOs, biblical and spiritual perspectives on unexplained phenomena, and finally, a deep dive into the Jeffrey Epstein case and associated conspiracy theories.

The central theme is a critical analysis of current political, social, and cultural upheavals from a skeptical and often contrarian viewpoint, accentuating the breakdown of traditional systems—be it international norms, urban governance, or media narratives—and exploring how alternative explanations, including spiritual ideas and secrecy in government, interplay with these issues.

This video is suitable for viewers interested in deep political commentary, societal critiques, and esoteric discussions linking spirituality, religion, and conspiracy theories. Viewers will learn about:

The perceived shifts in global power dynamics and the U.S. foreign policy paradigm under recent administrations.

The practical challenges and systemic failures surrounding immigration enforcement, homelessness, and urban security. A nuanced exploration of the UAP phenomenon blending scientific skepticism, government secrecy, and spiritual interpretations. An updated critical look on the Jeffrey Epstein saga, including the limits of public knowledge on intelligence operations and criminal justice. Reflections on religion, spirituality, and how ancient texts might intersect with modern unexplained phenomena. Timeline Summary 00:00-04:30: US Foreign Policy and Recent Crises Discusses the unexpected nature of Trump administration actions in Iran and Venezuela, assesses their motivations as assertions of power rather than regime change, and critiques the breakdown of the post-WWII rules-based order. The segment highlights confusion around authenticity of warzone footage and the detachment of traditional foreign policy mechanisms in modern governance.

04:30-12:30: Immigration, Border Security, and Urban Disorder Detailed discourse on immigration policies, border enforcement challenges, and organized protests. Examines the interplay of political strategy, public opinion, and reality on policing and public safety, including incidents in Minneapolis, ICE raids, and the resultant societal chaos.

12:30-19:30: Homelessness Crisis and California Governance Explores San Francisco and Oakland’s homelessness as a “systemic failure,” linking large budgets to ineffective or counterproductive incentives. Discusses political dynamics hindering reform and possible moderate alternatives amid entrenched corruption and radical politics.

19:30-31:30: UAPs / UFO Phenomenon and Government Transparency An analytic overview of UFO disclosures, skepticism about government concealment, reverse engineering claims, and the challenges of interpreting anomalous sightings. Includes discussion with experts on government programs, whistleblowers, and the speculative spiritual or extraterrestrial interpretations of sightings.

31:30-47:00: Spirituality, Religion, and the UFO Connection A reflective dialogue relating religious texts, biblical stories, and ancient myths to the UFO phenomenon. Discusses themes around humanity’s search for meaning, moral philosophy from Christian teachings, and parallels between spiritual experiences and UFO encounters.

47:00-1:07:00: Jeffrey Epstein Case Analysis A critical reassessment of Epstein’s activities, legal proceedings, and the limitations of public evidence. Talks about the opaque influence of intelligence agencies, blackmail speculation, evidence ambiguities regarding Epstein’s death, and the challenges in separating truth from rumor in high-profile scandals.

1:07:00-1:09:00: Closing Remarks and Light UFO Content Brief conclusion with a casual sharing of an amateur UFO video, discussion about Elon Musk’s potential knowledge of UAPs, and a final reflective nod to the vast complexity and mystery surrounding the topics covered.

Key Points 🕊 Foreign Policy Shift: The Trump administration’s approach dismantled previous foreign policy structures and upended the rules-based international order. Actions are interpreted as assertions of American power rather than strategic regime changes. (00:00-04:30)

🌎 Immigration and Political Strategy: Immigration enforcement policies have been shaped by a mix of political calculus, public opinion, and economic interests, creating complex outcomes and intensifying societal divide. (04:30-12:30)

🏙 Homelessness as a Failed Industry: Massive budgets in California’s homelessness programs often incentivize maintaining the problem rather than solving it, compounded by absent accountability and political entrenchment. (12:30-19:30)

👽 UAP Disclosure is Both Skeptical and Spiritual: Though many UFO sightings have official acknowledgment, large-scale clarity remains elusive due to institutional secrecy, disinformation, and the profound spiritual and cultural impact of the phenomenon. (19:30-31:30)

✝ Religion and Mystery: Ancient religious texts and experiences may encode early understandings of phenomena that modern culture labels extraterrestrial or paranormal, inviting a reassessment of spirituality and history. (31:30-47:00)

⚖ Epstein Complexity: Publicly available Materiel on Epstein suggests manipulation, abuses, and influence but lacks definitive evidence linking intelligence operations to blackmail schemes or high-profile crimes; Epstein’s death remains contentious with no conclusive resolution. (47:00-1:07:00)

🎥 Influence and Culture: Media narratives, social media, and political maneuvering heavily shape public discourse, often distorting facts or amplifying chaos rather than clarity across diverse topics including protests and spiritual phenomena. (Through entire video)

Key Insights 📌 Unique take on Trump’s foreign policy: The administration is viewed not as strategically coherent but as independently reactive with an overridden traditional foreign policy establishment, influencing global stability unpredictably. (00:00-04:30)

📌 Homelessness as a “Sick Industry”: The concept that homelessness solutions are economically incentivized to perpetuate the problem is both a counterintuitive and powerful critique, emphasizing the need for structural governance accountability. (12:30-19:30)

📌 UFO Phenomenon as a Cultural Control System: The idea that UFOs may represent evolving manifestations in human consciousness or “control systems” challenges purely physical or extraterrestrial interpretations, blending science, spirituality, and anthropology. (31:30-47:00)

📌 The Limitations of Conspiratorial Evidence: The Epstein discussion highlights the difficulty in drawing firm conclusions amid partial evidence, redactions, and conflicting information, urging caution in interpreting leaks and conspiracy narratives. (47:00-1:07:00)

📌 Spiritual and Ethical Reflections: The integration of Christian teachings on forgiveness, scapegoating, and love offers a philosophical anchor amid chaotic modern discourse, suggesting the enduring relevance of ancient wisdom. (31:30-47:00)

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) Q: Why did the Trump administration’s actions in Iran and Venezuela seem unpredictable? A: They were less about clear objectives like regime change and more about asserting power without traditional or expert-driven planning, leading to unstable and confusing foreign policy outcomes.

Q: Is homelessness actually being “managed” to continue rather than resolved? A: Some analysts argue that large funding flows create perverse incentives for service providers to maintain homelessness rather than end it, due to lack of accountability and embedded interests.

Q: Are UFOs confirmed extraterrestrial vehicles? A: While government disclosures confirm unexplained aerial phenomena, there is no conclusive evidence of extraterrestrial origins; interpretations range from advanced secret technology to spiritual experiences or cultural manifestations.

Q: What’s the connection between religious texts and UFO phenomena? A: Some scholars suggest ancient descriptions of divine or mystical experiences could be early attempts to interpret phenomena similar to modern UFO encounters, blurring lines between religion and unexplained aerial phenomena.

Q: Was Jeffrey Epstein’s death a murder or suicide? A: Evidence remains inconclusive; there are suspicious circumstances and conflicting reports, including a prior suicide attempt and allegations of a cellmate attempt on his life, but no definitive proof of homicide.

Conclusion This video weaves a complex tapestry of contemporary geopolitical, societal, and esoteric issues, emphasizing the fracturing of traditional systems and the rise of chaotic, often opaque power dynamics. Insights emerge on how realpolitik, media manipulation, and spiritual inquiry co-exist in today’s discourse.

The discussion advocates critical thinking, cautious interpretation of partial information (especially in cases like Epstein), and openness to interdisciplinary perspectives encompassing politics, sociology, and spirituality.

Action Suggestions:

Stay critically engaged with breaking news and political developments, recognizing potential biases and gaps in information. Investigate local governance issues, especially on homelessness and policing, supporting policies promoting accountability. Explore multidisciplinary resources on UAP and spiritual phenomena to appreciate their cultural and psychological dimensions. Reflect on ancient wisdom and ethical teachings as tools to navigate modern complexity with humility and compassion. This content encourages viewers to embrace complexity over oversimplification, blend skepticism with openness, and pursue deeper understanding amid a tumultuous age.

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– Tynyyn 31 points 83 days ago +31 / -0

Goodness. Seems like your AI summation was longer than Joe's show. Kek.

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– WeAreTheWorld 4 points 83 days ago +4 / -0

Twasn’t mine; mine probably woulda woulda been longer.

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– MAGA_100X 8 points 83 days ago +8 / -0

That's what he said!

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– ZeroDeltaTango 11 points 83 days ago +11 / -0

This Q & A:

Q: Why did the Trump administration’s actions in Iran and Venezuela seem unpredictable? A: They were less about clear objectives like regime change and more about asserting power without traditional or expert-driven planning, leading to unstable and confusing foreign policy outcomes.

Translation: Unstable Psycho Trump is on a Nazi power trip, rabidly asserting that power without any plan, no knowledgeable input from any experts involved; just wants to blow stuff up to look tough. Spin that globe, and just POINT! Lithuania, Uruguay, or Bhutan could be next!

Could have been written by Whoopi the fuck Goldberg.

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– WeAreTheWorld 3 points 83 days ago +3 / -0

Right; “assumably” that is what Rogan & Smellyburger concluded; if so, it demonstrates their ignorance (at least on Rogan’s part; can’t speak to Smelly as don’t know a thing about him, nor care to.

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– Lurqer 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

Most Germaine comment in thread. Thank you.

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– SOGWAP 2 points 82 days ago +2 / -0

Oh brother. I didnt listen but that shit he said is just stoopid. Rogan is flailing to find relevance amd obviously has a very shallow grasp on what he is living through. Rogan has finally confused himself thoroughky.

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– winn 8 points 83 days ago +8 / -0

lmfao

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– eagledriver 1 point 83 days ago +1 / -0

DITTO!!!!!!

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– billgatesisanasshole 6 points 83 days ago +6 / -0

I know right, what a stupid post.

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– AmateurExpert 6 points 83 days ago +6 / -0

https://decopy.ai/youtube-video-summarizer/?id=om2EqrnayW

(Specific faggotry references not included)

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– deleted 4 points 83 days ago +4 / -0
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– AmateurExpert 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

Welcome! One of the mods suggested it a while back, it works pretty good.

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– samlopes900se-2 33 points 83 days ago +33 / -0

So this is a post telling people that this interview is not worth watching and it's stickied? Why? Seems a bit low effort...

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– deleted 8 points 83 days ago +8 / -0
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– samlopes900se-2 7 points 83 days ago +7 / -0

I got a lifetime ban for saying "maybe I shouldn't post here anymore" thus the reason for the "2" in my handle.

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– catsfive [M] [S] 2 points 82 days ago +2 / -0

Hmm. Let's see how long "3" lasts. Your account became the equivalent of an Iranian scud launcher as far as I'm concerned.

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– deleted 15 points 83 days ago +15 / -0
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– samlopes900se-2 6 points 83 days ago +6 / -0

That's why my link to this site is to the top posts organized by day. I have been down the ban road which is why I post very, very little here. Occasionally I have to call out the hypocrisy though.

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– pnwhomebrewer 8 points 83 days ago +8 / -0

Yup came here in 2020 after the election steal. I appreciate most of the people here but it gets very unopened minded at times.

Mods get VERY mad if you aren’t a hardliner.

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– samlopes900se-2 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

Yeah, big fish in a little pond. I get it. Whatever. This won't be the site forever. It will eventually go the way of 4chan and 8chan...

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– catsfive [S] 4 points 82 days ago +4 / -0

Predicting the imminent death of this place is pretty much the same thing as predicting the death of Bitcoin

Any day now

Why don't you just patent it, maybe you could make some money off of any day now.com

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– AmateurExpert 3 points 83 days ago +3 / -0

The rules are stated pretty clearly, fren.

If you review the mod logs, you’ll see they’re pretty consistent, especially given how many shills try to pop in here. Go check the logs since we took out Khomeni, it’s been insane.

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– deleted 1 point 83 days ago +1 / -0
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– samlopes900se-2 1 point 81 days ago +1 / -0

I have been looking, how does one access these logs?

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– AmateurExpert 2 points 81 days ago +2 / -0

[ga].win/logs, or third or fourth link from the bottom if you hit the search button.

Rules are in the sidebar.

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– samlopes900se-2 2 points 81 days ago +2 / -0

Much appreciated fren!

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– TheMAGAnificent 21 points 83 days ago +21 / -0

There may be more of a summary of why we should watch other than what you have in the title?

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– REAL_Shepherd 9 points 83 days ago +9 / -0

ROFLMAO at the Title...Tell us how you really feel 🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍

You might wanna washup...you can FEEL his disease for sure

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– squigglefunk 9 points 83 days ago +9 / -0

Oh my….such melodrama. Get out and get some fresh air….buy yourself a Slurpee & chill. 😸

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– motrhed3 3 points 83 days ago +3 / -0

you advertising for 7eleven or something? kek

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– Strelnieks 2 points 82 days ago +2 / -0

"Why do you keep saying Carl's Jr?"

"Because they pay me everytime I doo!"

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– Plantmedicine 9 points 83 days ago +9 / -0

Any TL;DR summary? Faggy?

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– AmateurExpert 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

https://decopy.ai/youtube-video-summarizer/?id=om2EqrnayW

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– BigMuddyMama 9 points 83 days ago +9 / -0

I listened yesterday. Joe was pressing him hard and Shill-enberger's reaction was enough to convince me he's a PoS. He was running interference, and deflecting at every chance. It annoyed me. I actually yelled at the podcast when he wouldn't let Joe finish his thoughts.

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– motrhed3 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

usually it's joe not letting the guest finish their thoughts....

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– Notimportant81 8 points 83 days ago +8 / -0

Um. Question for clarifying. 10 minutes in, which guy are you referring to? Rogan or Shellenburger? Both are singing from the same songbook and totally ignoring the reality check which brought Venezuela and Iran actions on. So I am assuming both.

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– catsfive [S] 8 points 83 days ago +8 / -0

I can't even believe this. I hate this person more than Hillary, and that's saying something. I want to see this man's face carved off his skull with a chisel. HOLY SHIT.

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– en_folkefiende 24 points 83 days ago +24 / -0

I agree with the others. Please elaborate at least a little bit. Is it Shellenberger who's the target of your ire? Rogan? Or someone else that they're discussing on that episode? The answer will determine whether I view for myself or not.

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– Rooks 4 points 83 days ago +4 / -0

Don't waste your time. It has long since been a belief of mine that Joe Rogan is worth exactly 0.

You can get any number of more intelligent commentary from dozens of other people.

Most of the clips and bits of joe sounds like he's on drugs while he does his show.

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– en_folkefiende 4 points 83 days ago +4 / -0

Agreed. Rogan could've remained relevant, but the trajectory of his understanding on really important things flatlined years ago.

My mind goes to Sinclair Lewis' titular character, Babbitt. Everything in moderation. As if any nation ever won a culture war w/ thinking like that. As if a person ever understood deep realities of this world and Life w/ thinking like that.

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– magavoices 3 points 83 days ago +3 / -0

27 minutes in and I'd say it's 80% the guest being a fag and 20% Rogan allowing him to be a fag.

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– en_folkefiende 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0

LOL

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– DRan 4 points 83 days ago +4 / -0

Hillary has entered the chat. Or is it Tom Hanks and Wilson? 🖐️

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– weholdthesetruths 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

…why?

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– TaQo 7 points 83 days ago +7 / -0

Oh boy...Sign me up!

Blood pressure be damned!

u/#vincenut

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– january20 6 points 83 days ago +6 / -0

Emerald Robinson posted a few things yesterday about him being "an op created by a certain techlord" with some interesting history: https://x.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/2031779196133949892

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– scrummin 4 points 83 days ago +4 / -0

This is a good link - thanks!

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– EZMojo 6 points 83 days ago +6 / -0

Why is Rogan pretending to not understand? Iran refused to negotiate and bragged that they are going to build nukes.

Trump decided to destroy their capability to deliver them by destroying their missiles and wiped out their leadership so he could negotiate with their next leaders.

He said Iran will not be allowed to have nukes over and over again on the campaign trail.

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– SOGWAP 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0

What makes you think he is pretending. Rogan isnt that bright dude.

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– HotMustard84 5 points 83 days ago +5 / -0

Oy vey sheckleberg

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– AbrahamLincoln17 4 points 83 days ago +4 / -0

More like Shillenberger this guys lame

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– JohnTitor17 3 points 83 days ago +3 / -0

Joe Rogan at the 2:17:17 mark talking human sacrifice:
The issue is "people DO NOT WANT to believe it."
Boom!
Thanks for the shout out JR! Kek

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– pente1776 3 points 83 days ago +3 / -0

3 hours??? Could you narrow it down?

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– Blessed94 3 points 83 days ago +3 / -0

I thought you were talking about Gavin for a minute

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– Davesnothere 3 points 83 days ago +3 / -0

Just wanted to say how thankful I am for this community, and for the great comments. I get more information and up to date from the comments then the post itself in many cases. I appreciate you all taking time to bring us lazy folk up to speed.
Summary: thankful I don't have to watch a 4 hour video to find out why catsfive's head blew up

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– deleted 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0
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– Davesnothere 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0

The dedication of this patriot brings a tear to my eye.😢 Thank you!

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– ModernMan1 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

Tell us how you rrreally feel 😁🦾

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– Godisglory1 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

What I heard was enough to know he is a leftist, that’s all.

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– deleted 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0
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– jhartz39 1 point 83 days ago +1 / -0

Controlled opposition. Reel in the normies, build some trust, talk about off limit conspiracies and when necessary, become anti-Trump. You were warned to use discretion with who you follow. Tucker Carlson, MJT and Candice Owens are also showing their true colors recently.

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– MICHIGANisRED 1 point 83 days ago +1 / -0

Title has me torn whether to watch or avoid

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– Indie117 1 point 83 days ago +1 / -0

Pretty sure his dad was C-A, fwiw.

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– TakeItBack 1 point 83 days ago +1 / -0

Disgusting display.

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