To be fair, I've heard my wife explain to her friends that she wants to wait and see whether more long-term effects come from the vaccines. She doesn't fear covid, neither does my daughter, but they say we don't know the long-term effects of covid either.
My most persuasive argument is showing them - from the CDC's own VAERS reporting network (which I know is wildly under-reporting problems from the vaccine) - that more people age 29 and below have died within 30 days of taking the vaccine over the last four months than have died in 17 months of having covid.
They still say it's a tiny fraction of total vaccines.
My brother in law, who is a doctor and who is staunchly Conservative, has had the Pfizer vaccine, and he doesn't believe the vaccines are designed to - or will - impair our immune systems or behave like a delivery methodology for later problems. He points to the fact that Trump continues to promote the vaccines and take credit for them along with his scientific understanding of the vaccines. And he's a skeptic of all things governmental.
I've seen the Del Bigtree stuff on this. It's alarming, for sure.
But the public shaming is at a fever pitch - particularly here in crazy Seattle - and I think it can even get worse with passports.
I feel like my wife gets to make up her own mind in the end, but for my daughter, I just can't say yes to the vaccine. She is so mad at me because she thinks I'm irrationally quashing her social life. I tell her I'd rather her be mad at me and alive than happy with me and dead ... or infertile, or ill, or a ticking time bomb of some other physical or mental problem.
This is just more division by the Left. Please pray for us and everyone in this situation.
The DS and MSM are being very successful at playing on people's fears of social rejection, and shaming many of them into taking what they present is a safe vaccine, when in fact they might well be luring them to their death.
Everyone I know and love - my entire family, cousins and all my lifelong friends - think getting the vax is just the 'thing to do" - no discussion. These are good, intelligent people, but for some reason they will accept what the MSM tells them and will do no serious research themselves (or pay any attention to what I send them).
It is a very sobering and lonely realization to discover that only some of us, for some reason, are destined to see beyond the smoke and mirrors and understand what is really going on. Many many others in my life apparently have a different destiny. Only my deceased brother's widow gets it. She is the only person I know and love that I can talk to, and I'm the only one in her life, too.
My heart goes out to you, fren. I think a lot of us are in this situation and it hurts.
The loneliness is by design. Social distancing was part of the plan to break down people's will. Governments are warring against their own citizens. Fear, stress and loneliness are fatiguing as hell. People eventually begin to breakdown believing this will all end and we can get back to normal if they just take the shot. It's a LIE.
This is war, don't let them win.
The fear, stress and loneliness is also very unhealthy physically as well.
The tactics are similar to those abusive people use on their victims.
Lonely is a great way to put it. It's not like, I want to VAX for societal acceptance, but it is lonely being one of the only ones awake. While you watch the sheep walk into slaughter.
Its why I come to this site. Tho my immediate family is anti Vax, most ppl here are for it.
This worked for me:
Realize their vaxx hysteria is irrational and status-driven. They don’t want to lose status or want to re-gain status they’ve already lost.
Threaten divorce.
Retract divorce threat after they’ve mentally simulated it a few times and realize it’s greatly more status-depriving than being an “anti-vaxxer” or whatever.
Give up on fighting their vaxx hysteria. Stop resisting entirely.
Know Jesus and know that you always have Him and therefore you’re never alone. Be confident af in this fact.
Realize your calling, whatever it may be. Pillows? Go for it. Truth platform? Build it. Run for office? You got my vote. Start a church? Amen.
Tell them you don’t care what they decide anymore. Tell them you were being selfish in trying to control them. Tell them you’re sorry. Ask for forgiveness.
Explain to your spouse that you were afraid of the mere thought of holding their or your child’s lifeless body with no one to blame but yourself and with no one to recover any damages from and no insurance to even pay for the funeral and absolutely no one to turn to.
Tell your spouse they may have full reign over that responsibly and that although you disagree with risking your life, or theirs, or your child’s that you’ll only decide for yourself. Ensure your spouse realizes at this point that the death of your child and/or their parent will be entirely their fault and no one else’s.
Explain that the fight inside the walls of your home are insignificant in the battle that rages in the world that God has called you to. You’ve got bigger fish to fry in your servitude to God and Jesus. You’ve got more people to save than just them. You’ve moved passed this petty bickering and what shall be shall be but it won’t be your fault and therefore you don’t care what your spouse decides.
Now they’ll be in the precarious situation where they have to weigh the gain/preservation of status (amongst sheep) against the now real possibility of being solely responsible for the death of your child and/or the loss of their parent.
Bonus research material (for research purposes only).
Deep research material. Strictly for research.
These are videos of serious side effects:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/v8F2OrQKjVO6/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/YcErFhnb66nq/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/noy1pCGMpWKK/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/XyUC5dasK8cU/
Explanation from Specialists:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/xZv3nxwX1RHM/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/JHUqH0JWEuTR/
If Trump is finishing The Plan soon, perhaps the scientific truth will come out and you family and their friends will know what is what.
"for some reason"
Because we've been called by God and heeded His call.
"Many are called, but few are chosen."
ALL are called, but few choose to listen.
they are aprrently not intelligent. .
This is a good point. And the Dems were saying Jan. 6th was the worst attack on our soil since 9/11...
A liberal on reddit was screaming the same comparison a month ago, said we have more covid deaths than 9/11 (and it's because of Trump's mishandling etc)!
...I don't get why we're comparing a large-scale nation-wide process to a localized, physical event. Seems like a disingenuous comparison to me, but maybe I'm alone on this island.
Fauci says booster shot annually so they'll keep giving the vaccine year after year until it kills more people. If the military doesn't fix shit soon, the population will be greatly reduced.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/new-interview-archbishop-vigano-discusses-the-great-reset-gives-hope-in-light-of-our-lady-of-fatima?utm_source=must_reads
They've been playing vaccine games for decades with us as lab rats
The COVID-19 ‘vaccine’ is basically the new Rhinovirus flu ‘vaccine’.
Remember - the seasonal flu has been eradicated!
‘Booster shots’ are basically the seasonal flu shots ... which happens every damn year, promoted by the healthcare system, given away for free at your local pharmacy, ...
It’s the same bullshit folks. People have been conditioned to take the flu vaccine for decades.
Fauci will probably end up in life in prison or executed.
But until that time, he isn't finished will killing us.
Oh Wins! You give us so much. I feel for you. My 78 year old mom, 58 year old husband and brother got it months ago and all seem fine. But they are all hearty to begin with. At best-it's just a flu shot. At worst-we don't know. I did just pray for you and your fam.
I’m happy your family is ok - my neighbor was pressured into taking it at her work, and now she has Epstein-Barr syndrome and has been in and out of doctors with random problems ever since. She has serious regret
She probably had Lyme and it exploded after the vax. Lyme goes dormant and can look just like EBV. Bartonella, Babesia, and tons of other co infections go along with it. Lyme is an actual epidemic that the CDC has lied about for decades.
What are you talking about? Epstein-Barr is another word for herpes. Most people get it at some point.
correction: At best it's just a rushed and badly made flu shot that has already seen many smaller issues (i.e. blood clots)
Have them update their wills.
That part about quasing her social life sounds so sick to me....our parents quashed ours by not letting us go to Daytona during spring break with our underage friends or making us come home by midnight on weekends.....now stopping them from taking poison because they are brainwashed is the standard of quashing....
Scary bro.....
if you can not convince them then they do not wish to be convinced and have no interest in hearing the truth, you have access to all the information as the winsanon
there is nothing you can do but firmly tell them that you feel it is within their best interest to not take it and provide them with what makes you believe why, should they choose not to listen there is nothing you can do
Each person needs to make their own informed choice, based on their own research and exercise of their own free will.
I tried my very best to try to convince my mother not to take the shot but she chose to get it. I respect her freedom and autonomy to make that decision for herself. However in doing so I also requested that she make certain that her estate was in order with a will and medical directives just in case she has a reaction. I didn't want be stuck with a mess while simultaneously stricken with grief.
That's all you can do. I found it helpful to pray for my own peace of mind no matter what my family members choose and especially for peace in the case of an adverse event.
You probably already know this, but these shots aren't really vaccines in the truest sense of the word. They are 100% experimental and as such NO ONE can force your wife or daughter to get one, lest they be liable for damage.
Same. I can show them articles on statistics, but if they prefer to follow the herd I can't do anything except pray.
I feel lucky to have struggled with a mood disorder earlier in my life. I did a lot of reading on the history of treatments and the development of meds that later turned out to be harmful. It made me very skeptical of the medical profession, not that I don't listen to my doctor, too.
Tell them you'll take a life insurance policy on them. Show them you're serious.
insurers aren't allowing it, odds too high they will die
I wanted to point out that I think there's something bigger here to this specific point you're making.
Not only will insurers not allow it, but say someone who got the jab dies for "reasons believed to be jab related", then I expect there to be a choice presented:
A) They did in fact die to the jab, so now their insurance policy is null.
B) They died of other reasons, so now insurance pays out the hush money and the death doesn't get attributed to the jab.
Then he should print THAT statement out and show them that!
I would just show them the luciferase not being meant for humans and ask them to explain why they have never been told about that by doctors. Giving them data clearly isn’t working. I think you need to help them walk themselves along the logic train. If they are worried about Covid, you could also suggest buying hydroxechlorequine to allay their fears.
Skip Luciferase, it’s not a disclosed ingredient so we have no idea.
Peter McCullough led development of successful treatments in the case of a severe infection that reduced mortality by 85%- the HCQ/Azithromycin and Ivermectin/Doxycycline with zinc, vitamin D3, vitamin C supplement.
These are just a couple of the very effective treatments that are safe and cheap, especially compared to a hospital stay. You don’t need to participate in a vaccine medical trial for something that already has an effective cure.
Visit https://aapsonline.org/ for help if you get sick, they will help you ask your doctor for their widely used treatments and can treat you via telemedicine complete with next-day prescription deliveries if your primary care refuses.
https://rumble.com/vg6dcd-peter-mccullough-interview.html
Show them all the previous OTHER vaccine trials where if the trials reached 50 deaths, the trials were ended and the vaccines never were approved.
Make them watch Dr. Tenpenny's videos, Dr Medej's videos, and the videos of the crew they've formed.
If your wife and daughter choose to die there is nothing y ou can do about it. They will die these vaxxed people will be dropping like flies come fall and winter with the new viruses. The covid vax does not stop covid and it does not stop them from spreading covid. There is no reason what so ever to take them. They are a depopulation vaccine period. The foremost expert on vaccines says this vaccine will kill billions. Half the planet will die from them. Your wife and daughter are brainwashed. Show them doctor tenpennies videos and show them Geert Borshe the most renowned vaccine expert in the world https://robertdavidsteele.com/mirror-geert-bosshe-urges-world-stop-cv-vax-catastophe/?utm_content=12527979&utm_medium=Email&utm_name=Id&utm_source=Actionetics&utm_term=Email Let them know they are choosing to die if they dont believe you they have to believe the experts.
You’re right that your wife has to end up making her own call on it. I don't know why she'd bother getting it if she's not scared of the virus, other than like you said, caving to social pressure, which is just sad.
As for your daughter, you're right. She shouldn't take it even if she hates you for it. Since your daughter is almost 17, tell her to wait until she's 18. A typical vaccine wouldn't have even been approved by then anyway. You can show her the fact sheet for each vaccine saying it's not FDA approved along with the potential side effects. I've linked all 3 even though the FDA is only allowing Pfizer for those under 18 under the Emergency Use Authorization.
https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download , https://www.fda.gov/media/144638/download , https://www.fda.gov/media/146305/download
I feel your pain buddy. My old lady already got it and would be first in line with our 8yo when its available for the rest of the kids, except im gonna fight like hell against her trying to do that to our kid.
I think it was Dr. Peter McCollough who said they if a pharma product is associated with 50 deaths it gets pulled from the market. At 5, it gets a black box warning.
So what your family is calling tiny percentages, are really 800x the industry standard.
Of course vaccines are biologics and not drugs, so have different standards, but this goes to show what the overall industry thinks about danger levels.
I would certainly continue to remind your mom of the bad reaction your dad and grandfather had. Check VAERS out for the latest updates about the so-called 'COVID Vaccine'.
I will be praying for both your mom and WinsAnon's family.
Show them the article and the Reddit threads of the women experiencing menstrual problems after getting poked.
Your daughter should obey you, because not only is it what God commands her to do, He also promises that if she does she'll live a long time.
Show them this video of injuries from the vax.
https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/071/931/204/original/4c85bab3f887d038.mp4
I am sorry, I know for a fact you have tons of information to throw at them, you're wins anon. Perhaps appealing to their emotional brain will help instead of logical, it works with liberals? shed a few tears and try and sway them with how important they are to you, and how you're terrified of losing them, or having them maimed or disabled. Perhaps you can appeal to their empathy by saying it's hurting you emotionally. Just a thought from another female, I could never stand to see my father upset enough to cry, it only happened twice that I remember and it was enough for me to do anything to make him happy again.
This is likely a key aspect, maybe more so with a wife, but no parent wants their child to die before they do, or be permanently maimed, or become infertile. I agree, as another female, that appealing to their emotional side as well as their logical side will likely gain some traction that would not be gained otherwise. (It's rather like using chains or studded tires during the winter, sometimes you just need the extra traction) I try to stay logical, as a lady, but sometimes my emotions get the best of me and then I just need to try to see things from a different perspective. I also agree with the appeal to empathy. I felt the same way around my dad.
Helpful link for all follows: https://www.zeroaggressionproject.org/mental-lever/empathy/
Anytime now would be a great time to get the public side of the show started. Prayer? Can't hurt. Beg for them to give it more time? Couldn't hurt? Watch gates perp walked? That might do it. Watch fraudchi hang for crimes against humanity?
Been saying soon for four years. Every day it must be getting sooner. Buy time as best you can. Maybe arrests or GTFO needs to make a limited comeback.
Move them to Fl and turn of the TV. It will cure them.
Stolen from another thread here:
– Retaining_H2O 1 hour ago +9 / -0 No, I refuse to pay the price just because I rejected the "vaccine" . I told my relatives that, if I need to make their funeral plans, they will be cremated. I'm going to place their ashes in hollow garden gnomes. They will spend eternity standing next to my front porch holding a wheel barrel.
My daughter, who turned 18 last December, went and got the Moderna shot while at college even though we explicitly told her not to and to talk to us first. Yeah, I know, I was 18 once and knew everything at that age. At this point, what can you do, you can't undo what's done?
I tried to warn my siblings and my eldest sibling convinced my 90 year old mother to get the shot. They told me not to take HCQ and the shot is completely safe. You have no idea the level of anger that is simmering inside of me.
It's incredibly frustrating isn't it, when people convince others to take the vax and you know they have actually avoided learning about it first. It's reckless.
Tell them more have died from the jab than in the twin towers... That was from just "two airplanes and 19 hijabs" and travel hasnt been the same ever since
Good thing your daughter can't get it without you or your wife's consent, correct? At least she can be spared for another year, maybe by then the effects will be more widely known.
Rhode Island had a sign up on the highway system 195 westbound that children 12+ are eligible.....just saw it today and I hope that is with parental consent but knowing RI I bet they do it right in the schools.
I've had doctors tell me that they cannot order an antibody or t-cell test. That there isn't one .... I'd like to get one done because I was sick forn2 months last March 2020 and I'm never touching this mad science liquid.
Wait, antibody tests were advertised a lot in my area last year. Now that you mention it, I've not heard of anyone getting one or seen any advertising. Hmm...thats fishy.
Apparently because insurance doesn't cover the cost which is weird because you'd think they'd want the blood of people who had it for therapeutics.
So my endocrinologist said she could order one but that insurance doesn't cover the cost and it is apparently pricy. I am going to get it done but apparently alot of places just don't know you can get it done or aren't recommending it due to the cost. I don't know why the nurse said they couldn't but I guess I'll need to look for a new office.
Im in the same boat. Showed my wife the video of a lady testifying in front of the Louisiana state senate about how she got really messed up from the vaccine. She's not the only one, she's in a group of 300 people. She explained there has been 197k adverse reactions to the jab and it took months for the NIH to get back to her. My wife "googled" what is Bitchute, because obviously MSM and all the bullshit media we have now days says: "BitChute is a video hosting service known for accommodating far-right individuals and conspiracy theorists, and for hosting hateful content.[a][b] The platform was created in 2017 to allow video uploaders to avoid content rules enforcement on YouTube,[14] and some creators who have been banned from YouTube or had their channels barred from receiving advertising revenue ("demonetized") have migrated to BitChute.[1]" ............ I'm very disappointed.
https://safetydatasheets.pfizer.com/DirectDocumentDownloader/Document?prd=PF00092
PDFMTRPFEMENThat is the Safety Data Sheet for the Pfizer vaccine. Notice all the “no data”, that’s because “WE” are the data.
Some of the info is technical. But things of note “Decomposition temp”in section 9. It’s not easy to keep something stored at -70 degrees C. Can they ensure that from packaging to arrival they kept them perfectly stored at -70 for all the logistics of delivery?
Section 10.4 “fine particles are flammable”. Why is something that is being injected in me a possible fire hazard if it’s misted into the air?
Section 11.1 Toxicology. Off the bat it says that they have no toxicology data on the vaccine as a whole, so they provide the information on the toxicology of all the individual ingredients. Also in this section are Known clinical effects.
We don't know the long term effects of COVID. We also don't know the long term effects of the COVID shots. They also haven't completed human trials and are not fully FDA approved.
I've been begging people I know who want it to just wait a bit and see if they still want it, but it's not working. Everyone I know who wants it got it, and those who don't want it aren't getting it.
I really have no advice if they've already made up their minds. Hopefully they continue to respect the fact that you don't want it and don't report you for not having it, if it ever comes to that.
Have her read this testimonial by a vaccine maker, guy admits they are designed to kill
https://miepbos.nl/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/email-prik-2019.pdf
"Q:If vaccines actually do harm, why are they given? A:First of all, there is no “if.”They do harm. It becomes a more difficult question to decide whetherthey do harm in those people who seem to show no harm. Then you are dealing with the kind of research which should be done, but isn’t. Researchers should be probing to discover a kind of map, or flow chart, which shows exactly what vaccines do in the body from the moment they enter. This research has not been done. As to why they are given, we could sit here for two days and discuss all the reasons. As you’ve said many times, at different layers of the system people have their motives. Money, fear of losing a job, the desire to win brownie points, prestige, awards, promotion, misguided idealism, unthinking habit, and so on. But, at the highest levels of the medical cartel, vaccines are a top priority because they cause a weakening of the immune system. I know that may be hard to accept, but it’s true. The medical cartel, at the highest level, is not out to help people, it is out to harm them, to weaken them. To kill them. At one point in my career, I had a long conversation with a man who occupied a high government position in an African nation. He told me that he was well aware of this. He told me that WHO is a front for these depopulation interests. "
The fact is, we don’t have enough data over a long period of time on this vaccine to know whether it’s safe or not. My biggest issue is that I don’t want to feel pressured to HAVE to put something into my body if I don’t want to. I’m fully against Biden dictating that we must do it and that’s the biggest reason I refuse to get it. Biden is not my president, I don’t trust him, he has proven that he makes terrible decisions or can’t make any decision at all, why on Gods green earth would I do what he tells me to do? Never going to happen. Perhaps when trump is back in, I’ll reconsider. Maybe that’s how we hold them accountable. You want us to get the vaccine? How about you fix our election fraud and reinstate the rightful president?
I don't understand why people who have survived 14 months of this evil hoax would want to compromise their health in exchange for less freedom than they had prior to the madness. I don't get it.
I have been thinking about this. I think they just don't have it in them to rebel or resist. At least my opinion of myself is improving while my opinion of others is dropping precipitously.
Stupidity. Fear doesn’t even make sense at this point, there is no way these people are still afraid of getting “Covid.” They are just fucking dumb.