Still awaiting the orders to trickle down, but I did get word that if the order comes on Friday, expect to have an order that deferred Sailors are in line on Saturday to get their first shot as applicable. This makes for a good reason to go get it now so you don’t miss the football game while waiting in line.
Our designated place and closest location will be the clinic at xxxx, where they will be setting up a vaccination site at the gym (once the order drops).
To be clear, the order that is pending is exactly that, it will be an order, not a suggestion. I just checked the link below and there are slots open at xxxx as early as 0830 tomorrow and Friday.
DoD Contractor, here. Their policy doesn't affect me - at this time.
The XO has been Captain Coercion, if you ask me. Quite the prick about all of this from the beginning. Telling the unvaxxed that any/all sicknesses are on us. We have the blood on our hands.
Are y’all allowed religious exemptions for vaccinations in the military? If y’all are, that’s the route that I would go with and use aborted fetal cell lines as the base of your argument. If they use the follow up question of whether you’ve refused a vaccine before and if you haven’t why is the Covid shot different, say that you’ve received them in the past b/c you were unaware of how vaccines have been tested and developed and now that you’ve researched the subject you will no longer be receiving any vaccine, Covid or otherwise, that has benefited from aborted fetal cell lines in any way, regardless of the time or reason. And then stick w/ that, you can’t get the flu shot or anything once you’ve presented this argument or the foundation and reasons for not getting the Covid shot crumbles.
Other than that you can always say you recently converted to being a Jehovah’s Witness or Christian Scientist. 😆 Praying for you, fren and thank you for your service! ❤️🇺🇸
I've noticed a lot of people where I work just are completely clueless. One said they weren't gonna get it, but now that his wife may have use personal time if someone/she gets covid, they may get it.
I just told him I wasn't. I know three people with heart issues now.
We're awoke here, but man... going into a fairly conservative work environment and seeing a bunch of folks that believe anything they read? It's discouraging, to say the least.
Doesn't matter when the antibodies created to fight the spike protein compete with your CD-8 Killer T-cells. Anybody taking the shot will decimate their immune system. You are turning your immune system into a subscription service of routine 6 month injections. It's over for humanity at this point.
Except for the unvaxed soon to be hunted. Maybe the dying military can leave their weapons at designated drop off points so the rest of us can pick up and start fighting when the remaining zombies come to haul us off.
The thing is. Military personnel sign their rights away, your constitutional rights away, the moment you sign that piece of paper. Trust me, I was in. You belong to the mercy of uncle Sam.
Incorrect. Being a 24yr vet, we take oath to the Constitution first, all else is secondary.
Problem is, they try and beat you down with threats enough to coerce you into doing things like this.
It takes balls to stand against it, but it can be done. I'm living proof of that. I didnt score brownie points, but i sure as hell didnt allow them to steamroll me or my men and, in the end, thats what matters. My men respected me highly for having their backs instead of plunging knives into them.
I can agree with that. I didn't stay long enough to say I had to deal with their bureaucy. They are extremely good at coercing, so that's why I probably felt I didn't have any rights. In reality we have some form of rights, but it doesn't feel like it.
They even give you an id that states property of the United States. Many people think it to mean the I’d card not realizing it’s you that are owned. Not the id.
Trust me. You can change your mind the same way imposter b iui den changed his colors from red whit blue to solid red. Nothing is permanent during war. Not your allegiance nor your loyalty. You have a God given right to protect your body which is the temple of God from an enemy trying to kill you. Now pick bbn up your weapon. Dust off your mind. Flee. Fight. Run
I left the Army with an Honorable Discharge and not one person ever gave one shit about my service. If you are worried about what people say about whether or not you had an honorable discharge, how is that any different than being worried about what people think about you getting vaxxed? If EVERYONE simply said "NO" this whole thing would be over. Stand up for yourself and others will, too. The sergeant who processed my paperwork to leave the army told me "I thought you were all ate-up, but now I've seen the light. I told them I'd rather suck a fat man's asshole until his forehead caved in than sign up for another contract with the Army." They want you to be afraid and fall in line.
The OTH discharge means you lose all Veterans Benefits like the GI bill I worked for. Also, there's a ban on federal employment. Some potential employers may care about the differences in discharge, but most dont.
It is your decision. I don't know how long you have been in or what skills you had that would lend to your life after the army. If you want to stay in, looks like you have to take it. As far as the GI Bill, all I can say is EVERYTHING I have learned academically has been through Youtube or private lessons/schools that I paid for. The GI Bill will allow you to spend years learning the basic bullshit that Universities dish out. Any specific shit you want to master will require years of focused work/study to master on your own time regardless of whether or not you have use a GI Bill for a bachelor's degree. Also, working for the government? Is that what you really want to do? It's up to you. It's a roll of the dice with the vax. I guess it really depends on what is more important to you - your principles or your paycheck. I'm a principles first guy, but it has made my life more difficult, for sure. No Bell's Palsey, though!
is it really other than honorable? Say you have converted to a religion and stick to it.. You can dispute the discharge for an honorable and pray they give you a decent lawyer and board...I know. Good luck.
Well, this is a critical waypoint. We shall soon find out the level of hostilities we are going to face here in America. If the majority of military personnel for some reason take the shot, our military will be rendered ineffective in a few short months. We can expect to see Chy-Na within our boarders in that situation.
If our military refuses in mass to be murdered by this shot, I believe Devolution will be publicly announced and the long much needed cleaning of our political, military and intelligence agencies will commence. I am praying for the latter to happen. It is past time for us all to ask the Lord our God for forgiveness and repent for our sins. May God have mercy on our souls and our country. Stand strong my Patriots. Trust in God's plan.
Most of the military have taken. If the military didn't step up and do their duty on Nov 4th, they ain't going to do it now. There is no savior coming to rescue us: no Q, no Plan, no Trump and no military. It will be down to We, The People. Just us, folks. Time to shed your illusions!
1 in 500 get vax damage. (Based on numbers I see thrown around here). I am a retard, but I am pretty sure that is better than 99% chance of being fine.
Bro I am not arguing, to get the shot, please don’t misunderstand.
I just get weary when I see us saying “all vaxed are dead in three years” … it wouldn’t surprise me, but I’ll believe it when I see it.
I’m to the point where I’m not sure anything I learned in a book or school is even real. So no, I don’t really believe stats, but I thought the 1 in 500 number came from us.
also, why would I get ANYTHING cooked up by these cunts if the “disease” has a 99.8% survive rate ??
I get it. You are using critical thinking skills with a healthy dose of skepticism. It’s the reason you didn’t take the clot shot to begin with. To the flamers you are the same as the vaccine Karen’s on Facebook if you judge someone for questioning
It's also important to not tie things together unnecessarily. Just because MSM and globohomos are pushing the vaccine does not inherently make it bad.
If we found out the vaccine was safe and effective, that would actually be great news, and it would not invalidate the rest of our causes.
It would be further proof that the lockdowns are nonsense globohomo BS, and it would mean we'd have a new way to protect our loved ones (in addition to the other ways, like HCQ and Ivermectin).
That said, my personal anecdotal evidence leads me to believe it's (a) not quite as bad as we think, at least short term, but still (b) worse than the MSM say, by magnitudes.
I know 12 people personally who have confirmed being fully vaxxed (I'm sure more than 12 are, but 12 is the number of people I can confirm).
Of those 12, 1 had a moderate reaction that left him lethargic and in some pain for a week, with another week of recovery. 1 had 2+ months of neurological issues (numbness, dizziness) that may still be going (haven't asked), and 1 has had some mild heart issues and pneumonia symptoms multiple in the months afterwards, which may or may not be vaxx related.
At worst, that's a 25% adverse event rate, with a 16% mild possible adverse reaction rate, and an 8% severe event rate.
Smaller than what we think, but larger than what the MSM reports, and larger than what our Covid risk would be. Anecdotal for sure, but it's always worth checking with your own eyes and comparing with what's being reported.
I agree that we mustn't fall in to the same trap as our enemies: exaggerating our claims. I think the death count from the jab is probably 40k in Europe and US. That's still 40k too many. However, it doesn't mean that the blurb from our side about black death type die offs is any more true than the lies from the pro-jabbers. We shouldn't believe any narrative. I ain't taking the jab not because i necessarily believe the apocalyptic scenarios about what it will do, but because I hate being bullied and I hate being used as a lab rate for a new treatment for a virus that kills so few.
The CDC whistleblower in the Alabama lawsuit filed by the America's Frontline Doctors stated that deaths were under-reported in the VAERS system. They argue there are at least 45,000 deaths as of July 9, 2021. This does not include the European reporting system. I don't recall the number of deaths in the European system, but I do remember that 1.8 million adverse reactions were reported a month or two ago. Dr. Zelenko publicly stated that some of his colleagues were unable to report to VAERS and that some were even scrubbed from the system. He also referenced a Harvard study from 2015 that hypothesized only 1% of actual deaths are recorded in VAERS.
I wouldn't worry too much about exaggeration, and really I don't think people should be concerned about playing the right politics when your "hair-on-fire" warnings to friends and relatives may save their lives. The only risk is that you may look crazy, but who cares in clown world. Prominent people such as former Chief Scientist of Pfizer, Michael Yeadon says that the vaccines are designed for mass depopulation.
What is the real number then, fren ? How many people do you know have vax damage ?? Personally I know none, and I guess that is good cause my friends and family are ok(for now), but that makes the narrative here somewhat like the MSM, just on our side.
I know 2 20 year olds hospitalized with blood clots post vax.
There is zero data what these gene therapy treatments do long term, and they are refusing to classify many of the clot issues as vaccine related.
Subjecting your entire force to what is an experiment with no long term data is a hostile action. Sure, they could all be fine. But who knows? It’s a coin toss, and anyone who says otherwise is lying.
Why risk the unknown and possible decimation of your force for a virus with 99.997 survival rate? It doesn’t make any fucking sense.
I know of a supervisor at work that got the "vaccine" after I told him some of the warnings of scientists and doctors and to just do a bit of research. I actually told him he was a fucking moron if he went ahead and got the jab. Well, after about a month after the shots, he is now having trouble getting full breaths of air and regrets getting the shots. I hope he does not further decline but time will tell.
People are retarded as fuck for trusting "authorities".
Thank God your family is ok still. I sincerely hope they will stay that way during the upcoming cold and flu season. As to your question, I personally know at least 4 people who have had extreme negative effects. 1 of them is dead. I won't give a "best guess" percentage because as of right now no one knows. All of the hospitals, nursing homes and reporting systems are either hiding the real numbers and or can't keep up with the data. I've heard that at least 500,000 people have perished already from the shot. If those numbers are true, I think it is safe to say tens of millions of people are injured from these bioweapons. Are you aware of what is in these shots? Graphene oxide is one of the main ingredients which is highly toxic to humans. I've spent 100s of hours easily watching, listening and reading about these so call vaccines and the horrible effects it has on people. If you want, I can compile a short list of good information sources to get you started on the right track.
That's not the point. Even if the info about massive deaths and injuries are false, no government should forcing a dodgy, experimental gene therapy on its citizens for a flu virus that leaves 99.8% at least of its victims alive.
COMIRNATY is FDA licensed and Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is EUA. They are legally distinct. The military personnel can only be ordered to receive the FDA licensed product.
Until recent years, enlisted soldiers would be among the healthiest, and most physically fit, portion of the population. I don't know how watered down that has become, but even considering that, their age, health, and fitness levels, would put them at such a low risk of dying, or even requiring hospitalization, from covid, as to make requiring "vaccinations" against covid, ridiculous. And now, fully knowing the shots are not preventing covid, it's beyond ridiculous!
Does anyone know if a fundraising campaign has been started to help offset the costs of military who refuse, losing their retirements, income, etc?
Maybe a GiveSendGo? I don’t know but something needs to be done…. For those that lose everything over this…. Not sure how to organize or determine who would get what.
It will be interesting to see what administrative action is taken against military personnel who refuse to take the jab. Reprimand, fine, incarceration or discharge are all punitive. There is no telling how many will refuse and even less likely that the military will report on any of these numbers.
Next up, federal funding cut off to any institution that does not adhere (including any company that does business with the govt), and lastly, if you're not in the above groups, the individual mandate.
I have always felt the military jab mandate was the trigger event.but if its not, we got a long way to go. Right now, I am hoping this memo is just paper-tiger stuff
They’ll probably get NJP’d. Which is “ Non-Judicial Punishment (NJP) is known by different terms among the services, such as "Article 15," "Office Hours," or "Captain's Mast." The purpose of NJP is to discipline service members for minor offenses such as reporting late for duty, petty theft, destroying government property, sleeping on watch, providing false information, and disobeying standing orders.”
Hopefully, that’s all. Court martial is after that. But the sheer numbers makes me think they’ll be NJP’d.
When I was a junior Marine, I almost got NJP’d for having alcohol in my barracks underaged. Thankfully, I only got a stern talking to. But it’s bad, it’s a stain on your record and can result in a reduction in rank, loss of pay, extra duty or other punishment but it just depends how they’re going to handle masses of military who refuse to take the vax. I’m hoping they’re not going to cave and just get it. I wouldn’t.
This sucks though. Really sucks. I keep praying every day things get better for everyone.
"COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) is the same formulation as the PfizerBioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine and can be used interchangeably with the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine to provide the COVID-19 vaccination series. https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download"
There is a clear legal distinction between both and they cannot force anyone to take the BionTech version since it is still experimental
TLDR: the FDA did both in approving Cominarty and extending the EUA. The vax if produced and labelled and distributed as Cominarty is FDA approved. Without it, it is EUA only.
Under Cominarty, Pfizer can be held liable for death or adverse reactions. Under the EUA vax, they may not. As such, there seems to be strong legal incentive for Pfizer to NOT produce or distribute Cominarty. This might explain the confusing rationale of approval, and the EUA extension. Hope this clears things up a little. Bottom line, we have Schrodinger's Vaccine that is both FDA approved and unapproved, depending on labeling.
Conspiracy theory minded people (non here :) ) might think this fits in with a plan to decimate the U.S. military, so that some foreign military would have minimal resistance if they invaded. (minimal resistance from U.S. military; private citizens, many ex-military, would be a different story :) )
no one is planning to invade the actual US. China though would love it if it became very clear that US will not be making a peep to oppose Chinese moves to expand control in the region. That will undermine most of the resistance they would otherwise face.
He got the whole ball rolling with Op Warp Speed. And he's still pushing the vaxx. Think about that: this is the greatest threat to our freedoms since WW2 and he's pushing it. If he isn't careful, he'll lose the base.
Serious question: If this actually goes through is there still faith in the plan? I dont feel like the Q plan would involve this happening in any way shape or form since it goes against constitutional rights and quite likely harms a good number of our service members which Q praises regularly
What is that everyone here likes to say? OH I REMEMBER!!!! enjoy the movie, grab the popcorn.. They will sit at their computers eating popcorn enjoying you getting jabbed. That's where we are at here... C'mon all you that said it.. ENJOY THE SHOW.
As we continue to do nothing. NOTHING. Every single day the enemy advances and wins.
The vaccine creates tribalism with in the military.
If push comes to shove here in the states, and it is mandated to go places, or work, shop... all indoor activity.
The troops who were forced to take the shot probably aren't going to have much sympathy for people who haven't vaxed.... they would think what makes them so special, we had to take it.
.... if the military takes this, is bad on so many levels.
"The under secretary of defense for personnel and readiness may approve additional guidance to implement and comply with FDA requirements or Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommendations"
The under secretary of defense for personnel and readiness - Matthew Donovan
Also why is the J&J shot not approved? It's the only one that is exactly like the flu shot as far as treatment. It don't use this fucked up mRNA bullshit.
Let’s have one of the military medics “vaccinate” the Secretary of Defense from the same vial in front of the troops. A vaccine card will not be sufficient, as that may be faked, and/or a placebo given.
Forcing our good men and women to take the non-FDA approved Pfizer shot is still EUA. It is my understanding that the approved Pfizer shot is under a different nam and a subsidiary of Pfizer and not distributed in the U.S. so technically while that shot was FDA approved, but is not distributed in the U.S., the shot from Pfizer being used is still EUA. Even if it was approved, Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J have failed to address the deaths and adverse reaction within hours and days after receiving the shot, which makes it unsafe to continue to be administered. This is one time our military must disobey a command because this shot will maim and weaken our forces, making them unable to defend this great nation.
If all servicemen and women stick together and refuse they will need to discharge a lot of you. Your life is more important than following an unlawful command to take a harmful shot. Stand strong, otherwise this outrage will NEVER stop.
I didn't get the vaxx, but my wife got it and the Gardisil vaccination 10 years ago when boards like these were saying that would kill, too. It's a roll of the dice, I guess. She's fine, btw.
Here is the referenced DOD instruction 6205.02 dated July 23, 2019. It will not take more than a couple pages of reading to determine this document was written with foresight.
Taking this vaccine is a violation of the oath you swore upon.
From our XO:
All Hands,
Still awaiting the orders to trickle down, but I did get word that if the order comes on Friday, expect to have an order that deferred Sailors are in line on Saturday to get their first shot as applicable. This makes for a good reason to go get it now so you don’t miss the football game while waiting in line.
Our designated place and closest location will be the clinic at xxxx, where they will be setting up a vaccination site at the gym (once the order drops).
To be clear, the order that is pending is exactly that, it will be an order, not a suggestion. I just checked the link below and there are slots open at xxxx as early as 0830 tomorrow and Friday.
https://informatics-stage.health.mil/covax/
Vr/ XO
If you don’t mind me asking, what do you intend to do?
DoD Contractor, here. Their policy doesn't affect me - at this time.
The XO has been Captain Coercion, if you ask me. Quite the prick about all of this from the beginning. Telling the unvaxxed that any/all sicknesses are on us. We have the blood on our hands.
Say NO
To any service members lurking here, refuse it, you’ll be glad you did.
How?! Trust me I am trying to
Are y’all allowed religious exemptions for vaccinations in the military? If y’all are, that’s the route that I would go with and use aborted fetal cell lines as the base of your argument. If they use the follow up question of whether you’ve refused a vaccine before and if you haven’t why is the Covid shot different, say that you’ve received them in the past b/c you were unaware of how vaccines have been tested and developed and now that you’ve researched the subject you will no longer be receiving any vaccine, Covid or otherwise, that has benefited from aborted fetal cell lines in any way, regardless of the time or reason. And then stick w/ that, you can’t get the flu shot or anything once you’ve presented this argument or the foundation and reasons for not getting the Covid shot crumbles.
Other than that you can always say you recently converted to being a Jehovah’s Witness or Christian Scientist. 😆 Praying for you, fren and thank you for your service! ❤️🇺🇸
Or tell them the truth, that this covid pandemic has brought you closer to God, and stronger in your faith.
Ask the chaplains. Explain you are not sure what to do and you need spiritual advice.
Explain what and why you are having a crisis of faith.
The government owns YOU. Not god. I have it on good authority that God always wins.
President Trump will fix all of the dishonorable to honorable. Better unemployed than unable to reproduce or dead
thats terrifying
Anthrax vax was also very controversial. Look to see what objections and results were handled then.
I've noticed a lot of people where I work just are completely clueless. One said they weren't gonna get it, but now that his wife may have use personal time if someone/she gets covid, they may get it.
I just told him I wasn't. I know three people with heart issues now.
We're awoke here, but man... going into a fairly conservative work environment and seeing a bunch of folks that believe anything they read? It's discouraging, to say the least.
If it comes to a point where you feel like you have to take it, remember the Dr. Zelenko supplement regimen.
At least maybe you can flush the spike proteins and minimize the damage.
Doesn't matter when the antibodies created to fight the spike protein compete with your CD-8 Killer T-cells. Anybody taking the shot will decimate their immune system. You are turning your immune system into a subscription service of routine 6 month injections. It's over for humanity at this point.
Except for the unvaxed soon to be hunted. Maybe the dying military can leave their weapons at designated drop off points so the rest of us can pick up and start fighting when the remaining zombies come to haul us off.
God Bless you all prayers and strength and thankful for defending yourself and our country the best one can in these disturbing times 💪🏼🙌
Same here. Dont know how to refuse it without going the Other-Than-Honourable discharge route.
The thing is. Military personnel sign their rights away, your constitutional rights away, the moment you sign that piece of paper. Trust me, I was in. You belong to the mercy of uncle Sam.
Incorrect. Being a 24yr vet, we take oath to the Constitution first, all else is secondary.
Problem is, they try and beat you down with threats enough to coerce you into doing things like this.
It takes balls to stand against it, but it can be done. I'm living proof of that. I didnt score brownie points, but i sure as hell didnt allow them to steamroll me or my men and, in the end, thats what matters. My men respected me highly for having their backs instead of plunging knives into them.
I can agree with that. I didn't stay long enough to say I had to deal with their bureaucy. They are extremely good at coercing, so that's why I probably felt I didn't have any rights. In reality we have some form of rights, but it doesn't feel like it.
They even give you an id that states property of the United States. Many people think it to mean the I’d card not realizing it’s you that are owned. Not the id.
Trust me. You can change your mind the same way imposter b iui den changed his colors from red whit blue to solid red. Nothing is permanent during war. Not your allegiance nor your loyalty. You have a God given right to protect your body which is the temple of God from an enemy trying to kill you. Now pick bbn up your weapon. Dust off your mind. Flee. Fight. Run
I left the Army with an Honorable Discharge and not one person ever gave one shit about my service. If you are worried about what people say about whether or not you had an honorable discharge, how is that any different than being worried about what people think about you getting vaxxed? If EVERYONE simply said "NO" this whole thing would be over. Stand up for yourself and others will, too. The sergeant who processed my paperwork to leave the army told me "I thought you were all ate-up, but now I've seen the light. I told them I'd rather suck a fat man's asshole until his forehead caved in than sign up for another contract with the Army." They want you to be afraid and fall in line.
The OTH discharge means you lose all Veterans Benefits like the GI bill I worked for. Also, there's a ban on federal employment. Some potential employers may care about the differences in discharge, but most dont.
If you're dead from the vax you lose all benefits too, so there's that.
I’m glad I got our before Obama
Glad I did, and then got out when I did.
It is your decision. I don't know how long you have been in or what skills you had that would lend to your life after the army. If you want to stay in, looks like you have to take it. As far as the GI Bill, all I can say is EVERYTHING I have learned academically has been through Youtube or private lessons/schools that I paid for. The GI Bill will allow you to spend years learning the basic bullshit that Universities dish out. Any specific shit you want to master will require years of focused work/study to master on your own time regardless of whether or not you have use a GI Bill for a bachelor's degree. Also, working for the government? Is that what you really want to do? It's up to you. It's a roll of the dice with the vax. I guess it really depends on what is more important to you - your principles or your paycheck. I'm a principles first guy, but it has made my life more difficult, for sure. No Bell's Palsey, though!
The fact that it could sterilize me would be enough to say no!
Still better than dying.
Exactly. They use fear to intimidate. All the more reason they are not our guys.
is it really other than honorable? Say you have converted to a religion and stick to it.. You can dispute the discharge for an honorable and pray they give you a decent lawyer and board...I know. Good luck.
Its Orher Than Honourable since they treat it as disobeying a direct order. You can dispute to upgrade it 1 year after.
Submit a request for religious accommodation. There is a guide for each branch here https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=8ab
Look into the Dr. Zelenko protocol for undoing the damage from taking the vaccine....
At least maybe you can flush the spike proteins and minimize the damage
Well, this is a critical waypoint. We shall soon find out the level of hostilities we are going to face here in America. If the majority of military personnel for some reason take the shot, our military will be rendered ineffective in a few short months. We can expect to see Chy-Na within our boarders in that situation.
If our military refuses in mass to be murdered by this shot, I believe Devolution will be publicly announced and the long much needed cleaning of our political, military and intelligence agencies will commence. I am praying for the latter to happen. It is past time for us all to ask the Lord our God for forgiveness and repent for our sins. May God have mercy on our souls and our country. Stand strong my Patriots. Trust in God's plan.
Most of the military have taken. If the military didn't step up and do their duty on Nov 4th, they ain't going to do it now. There is no savior coming to rescue us: no Q, no Plan, no Trump and no military. It will be down to We, The People. Just us, folks. Time to shed your illusions!
That maybe the case. But just as I don't know with 100% certainty, neither do you.
99% of people who take vaccine are fine. (Long term potential hidden consequences aside)
I’m not saying I would take it. I think it is .gov poison, but the degree to which is still unknown. Why don’t we have Pede scientists in this ??
I would like to know how you got that percentage 99% of vaxxed are fine.
1 in 500 get vax damage. (Based on numbers I see thrown around here). I am a retard, but I am pretty sure that is better than 99% chance of being fine.
I remember when the first studies suggested a 1:100,000 chance of young adult males getting myocarditis from the shot.
Shortly afterward, those numbers increased to 1:20,000. This was April.
That’s an 80% jump.
You do realize most statistics are purposefully withheld because of vaccine hesitancy being perceived as a threat, do you not?
Bro I am not arguing, to get the shot, please don’t misunderstand.
I just get weary when I see us saying “all vaxed are dead in three years” … it wouldn’t surprise me, but I’ll believe it when I see it.
I’m to the point where I’m not sure anything I learned in a book or school is even real. So no, I don’t really believe stats, but I thought the 1 in 500 number came from us.
also, why would I get ANYTHING cooked up by these cunts if the “disease” has a 99.8% survive rate ??
I get it. You are using critical thinking skills with a healthy dose of skepticism. It’s the reason you didn’t take the clot shot to begin with. To the flamers you are the same as the vaccine Karen’s on Facebook if you judge someone for questioning
It's also important to not tie things together unnecessarily. Just because MSM and globohomos are pushing the vaccine does not inherently make it bad.
If we found out the vaccine was safe and effective, that would actually be great news, and it would not invalidate the rest of our causes.
It would be further proof that the lockdowns are nonsense globohomo BS, and it would mean we'd have a new way to protect our loved ones (in addition to the other ways, like HCQ and Ivermectin).
That said, my personal anecdotal evidence leads me to believe it's (a) not quite as bad as we think, at least short term, but still (b) worse than the MSM say, by magnitudes.
I know 12 people personally who have confirmed being fully vaxxed (I'm sure more than 12 are, but 12 is the number of people I can confirm).
Of those 12, 1 had a moderate reaction that left him lethargic and in some pain for a week, with another week of recovery. 1 had 2+ months of neurological issues (numbness, dizziness) that may still be going (haven't asked), and 1 has had some mild heart issues and pneumonia symptoms multiple in the months afterwards, which may or may not be vaxx related.
At worst, that's a 25% adverse event rate, with a 16% mild possible adverse reaction rate, and an 8% severe event rate.
Smaller than what we think, but larger than what the MSM reports, and larger than what our Covid risk would be. Anecdotal for sure, but it's always worth checking with your own eyes and comparing with what's being reported.
I agree that we mustn't fall in to the same trap as our enemies: exaggerating our claims. I think the death count from the jab is probably 40k in Europe and US. That's still 40k too many. However, it doesn't mean that the blurb from our side about black death type die offs is any more true than the lies from the pro-jabbers. We shouldn't believe any narrative. I ain't taking the jab not because i necessarily believe the apocalyptic scenarios about what it will do, but because I hate being bullied and I hate being used as a lab rate for a new treatment for a virus that kills so few.
The CDC whistleblower in the Alabama lawsuit filed by the America's Frontline Doctors stated that deaths were under-reported in the VAERS system. They argue there are at least 45,000 deaths as of July 9, 2021. This does not include the European reporting system. I don't recall the number of deaths in the European system, but I do remember that 1.8 million adverse reactions were reported a month or two ago. Dr. Zelenko publicly stated that some of his colleagues were unable to report to VAERS and that some were even scrubbed from the system. He also referenced a Harvard study from 2015 that hypothesized only 1% of actual deaths are recorded in VAERS.
I wouldn't worry too much about exaggeration, and really I don't think people should be concerned about playing the right politics when your "hair-on-fire" warnings to friends and relatives may save their lives. The only risk is that you may look crazy, but who cares in clown world. Prominent people such as former Chief Scientist of Pfizer, Michael Yeadon says that the vaccines are designed for mass depopulation.
I agree with your diagnosis of yourself as being retarded.
What is the real number then, fren ? How many people do you know have vax damage ?? Personally I know none, and I guess that is good cause my friends and family are ok(for now), but that makes the narrative here somewhat like the MSM, just on our side.
I know 2 20 year olds hospitalized with blood clots post vax.
There is zero data what these gene therapy treatments do long term, and they are refusing to classify many of the clot issues as vaccine related.
Subjecting your entire force to what is an experiment with no long term data is a hostile action. Sure, they could all be fine. But who knows? It’s a coin toss, and anyone who says otherwise is lying.
Why risk the unknown and possible decimation of your force for a virus with 99.997 survival rate? It doesn’t make any fucking sense.
I know of a supervisor at work that got the "vaccine" after I told him some of the warnings of scientists and doctors and to just do a bit of research. I actually told him he was a fucking moron if he went ahead and got the jab. Well, after about a month after the shots, he is now having trouble getting full breaths of air and regrets getting the shots. I hope he does not further decline but time will tell.
People are retarded as fuck for trusting "authorities".
Thank God your family is ok still. I sincerely hope they will stay that way during the upcoming cold and flu season. As to your question, I personally know at least 4 people who have had extreme negative effects. 1 of them is dead. I won't give a "best guess" percentage because as of right now no one knows. All of the hospitals, nursing homes and reporting systems are either hiding the real numbers and or can't keep up with the data. I've heard that at least 500,000 people have perished already from the shot. If those numbers are true, I think it is safe to say tens of millions of people are injured from these bioweapons. Are you aware of what is in these shots? Graphene oxide is one of the main ingredients which is highly toxic to humans. I've spent 100s of hours easily watching, listening and reading about these so call vaccines and the horrible effects it has on people. If you want, I can compile a short list of good information sources to get you started on the right track.
99% ??
That's not the point. Even if the info about massive deaths and injuries are false, no government should forcing a dodgy, experimental gene therapy on its citizens for a flu virus that leaves 99.8% at least of its victims alive.
And Marines and Sailors, and Airmen
COMIRNATY is FDA licensed and Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is EUA. They are legally distinct. The military personnel can only be ordered to receive the FDA licensed product.
Until recent years, enlisted soldiers would be among the healthiest, and most physically fit, portion of the population. I don't know how watered down that has become, but even considering that, their age, health, and fitness levels, would put them at such a low risk of dying, or even requiring hospitalization, from covid, as to make requiring "vaccinations" against covid, ridiculous. And now, fully knowing the shots are not preventing covid, it's beyond ridiculous!
Which does not yet exist, it literally has not been manufactured.
And if it's FDA licensed, there is now legal liability for any side effects.
EXACTLY!!!
Does anyone know if a fundraising campaign has been started to help offset the costs of military who refuse, losing their retirements, income, etc?
Maybe a GiveSendGo? I don’t know but something needs to be done…. For those that lose everything over this…. Not sure how to organize or determine who would get what.
Horrible. Evil tyrants
Patriots in control my fucking ass.
The patriots are in control, dude. Just the country they are patriot about ain't ours.
It will be interesting to see what administrative action is taken against military personnel who refuse to take the jab. Reprimand, fine, incarceration or discharge are all punitive. There is no telling how many will refuse and even less likely that the military will report on any of these numbers.
Next up, federal funding cut off to any institution that does not adhere (including any company that does business with the govt), and lastly, if you're not in the above groups, the individual mandate.
I have always felt the military jab mandate was the trigger event.but if its not, we got a long way to go. Right now, I am hoping this memo is just paper-tiger stuff
Here are a few older articles:
Marines’ Refusal of Anthrax Vaccine Leads to Discharges: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-jun-24-mn-49666-story.html Troops who refused anthrax vaccine paid a high price:
https://www.defensenews.com/news/pentagon-congress/2021/06/17/troops-who-refused-anthrax-vaccine-paid-a-high-price/
The Anthrax Vaccine Program: An Analysis of the CDC's Recommendations for Vaccine Use: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1447151/
They’ll probably get NJP’d. Which is “ Non-Judicial Punishment (NJP) is known by different terms among the services, such as "Article 15," "Office Hours," or "Captain's Mast." The purpose of NJP is to discipline service members for minor offenses such as reporting late for duty, petty theft, destroying government property, sleeping on watch, providing false information, and disobeying standing orders.”
Hopefully, that’s all. Court martial is after that. But the sheer numbers makes me think they’ll be NJP’d.
When I was a junior Marine, I almost got NJP’d for having alcohol in my barracks underaged. Thankfully, I only got a stern talking to. But it’s bad, it’s a stain on your record and can result in a reduction in rank, loss of pay, extra duty or other punishment but it just depends how they’re going to handle masses of military who refuse to take the vax. I’m hoping they’re not going to cave and just get it. I wouldn’t.
This sucks though. Really sucks. I keep praying every day things get better for everyone.
It’s not FDA approved.
It is for 16+. Ages 12-15 is still EUA.
No it is not. The vaccine in its entirety is still EUA. See more details: https://patriots.win/p/12jwVlXCWu/why-is-no-one-talking-about-this/c/
"COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) is the same formulation as the PfizerBioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine and can be used interchangeably with the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine to provide the COVID-19 vaccination series. https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download"
There is a clear legal distinction between both and they cannot force anyone to take the BionTech version since it is still experimental
Additionally, ComiRNAty is not available and has yet to be manufactured/labeled.
Comi-RNA-ty. Commie RNA? I mean cmon, that's hilarious. White hats must be in control LOL.
And it has no Liability Shield! Vaccine Companies love to be free from liability
Look up the word Comity
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/mainstream-media-fda-approval-pfizer-vaccine/
TLDR: the FDA did both in approving Cominarty and extending the EUA. The vax if produced and labelled and distributed as Cominarty is FDA approved. Without it, it is EUA only.
Under Cominarty, Pfizer can be held liable for death or adverse reactions. Under the EUA vax, they may not. As such, there seems to be strong legal incentive for Pfizer to NOT produce or distribute Cominarty. This might explain the confusing rationale of approval, and the EUA extension. Hope this clears things up a little. Bottom line, we have Schrodinger's Vaccine that is both FDA approved and unapproved, depending on labeling.
That's why they forced approval two years early.
Hey, military. I would get started.
How many military personnel died from Covid last year? Seriously . . . was it ZERO?
26.....out of 2.2 million
Probably were gay with hiv... sorry but it is a trend
You're not wrong. Marines are full if cross dressing trannies now...
I’ve heard the stds are out of control and the gay rape is an epidemic. It has become a rape culture in many units.
Conspiracy theory minded people (non here :) ) might think this fits in with a plan to decimate the U.S. military, so that some foreign military would have minimal resistance if they invaded. (minimal resistance from U.S. military; private citizens, many ex-military, would be a different story :) )
That's just an accurate description of reality. Decimate our military so it's ripe for takeover by the communists.
Gee I'm glad we're living this nightmare. So excited to see what's next!!
Correct. This nation is secure because of gun owners, not the military.
no one is planning to invade the actual US. China though would love it if it became very clear that US will not be making a peep to oppose Chinese moves to expand control in the region. That will undermine most of the resistance they would otherwise face.
Signed trunfalanazure, 4-5 days ago.
REFUSE! Take the Religious Exemption and if you are demoted or discharged POTUS will REVERSE ALL and REINSTATE when he is back in WH.
WWG1WGA! 🇺🇸 NCSWIC! 💥
Trump is pro vaxx.
Trump is pro freedom. He has made that extremely clear.
He got the whole ball rolling with Op Warp Speed. And he's still pushing the vaxx. Think about that: this is the greatest threat to our freedoms since WW2 and he's pushing it. If he isn't careful, he'll lose the base.
also pro choice
no hes pro life
I meant regarding vaccines but yes, you are right.
Serious question: If this actually goes through is there still faith in the plan? I dont feel like the Q plan would involve this happening in any way shape or form since it goes against constitutional rights and quite likely harms a good number of our service members which Q praises regularly
This is how they plan to destroy our military, rot from within. This will make our military weak and sick.
This is an attack on our Military.
What is that everyone here likes to say? OH I REMEMBER!!!! enjoy the movie, grab the popcorn.. They will sit at their computers eating popcorn enjoying you getting jabbed. That's where we are at here... C'mon all you that said it.. ENJOY THE SHOW.
As we continue to do nothing. NOTHING. Every single day the enemy advances and wins.
Don't be part of the "we" that does nothing. There's plenty of work to be done, on yourself and in your community.
Who are the "medical experts" and "military leadership" and why is no one allowed to question them?
Bannons War Room Pfizer Seeking Full Indemnification: https://rumble.com/vlmd4g-pfizer-seeking-full-indemnification.html
Just sent this to my NG son, who doesn’t want to get the jab. Thanks for sharing!
FUCK.
AWOL epidemic coming! These people are stupid -- AND murderous! Tell me again why a 99.7% survival rate is so horribly frightening . . . .
The vaccine creates tribalism with in the military.
If push comes to shove here in the states, and it is mandated to go places, or work, shop... all indoor activity.
The troops who were forced to take the shot probably aren't going to have much sympathy for people who haven't vaxed.... they would think what makes them so special, we had to take it.
.... if the military takes this, is bad on so many levels.
What is the deadline?
"The under secretary of defense for personnel and readiness may approve additional guidance to implement and comply with FDA requirements or Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommendations"
The under secretary of defense for personnel and readiness - Matthew Donovan
But who is actually in charge of the military?
The Chinese.
Why do you suppose?
Also why is the J&J shot not approved? It's the only one that is exactly like the flu shot as far as treatment. It don't use this fucked up mRNA bullshit.
The spike proteins is causing the most damage to people
Let’s have one of the military medics “vaccinate” the Secretary of Defense from the same vial in front of the troops. A vaccine card will not be sufficient, as that may be faked, and/or a placebo given.
Forcing our good men and women to take the non-FDA approved Pfizer shot is still EUA. It is my understanding that the approved Pfizer shot is under a different nam and a subsidiary of Pfizer and not distributed in the U.S. so technically while that shot was FDA approved, but is not distributed in the U.S., the shot from Pfizer being used is still EUA. Even if it was approved, Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J have failed to address the deaths and adverse reaction within hours and days after receiving the shot, which makes it unsafe to continue to be administered. This is one time our military must disobey a command because this shot will maim and weaken our forces, making them unable to defend this great nation.
If all servicemen and women stick together and refuse they will need to discharge a lot of you. Your life is more important than following an unlawful command to take a harmful shot. Stand strong, otherwise this outrage will NEVER stop.
I didn't get the vaxx, but my wife got it and the Gardisil vaccination 10 years ago when boards like these were saying that would kill, too. It's a roll of the dice, I guess. She's fine, btw.
Here is the referenced DOD instruction 6205.02 dated July 23, 2019. It will not take more than a couple pages of reading to determine this document was written with foresight.
https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/dodi/620502p.pdf?ver=2019-07-23-085404-617
But I thought military was the only way and patriots were in control. This seems contrary to that claim.
Source mate....?
WWG1WGA
pray its a flu shot and not something worse...I know many were told to get the shot before going out of country