I think everyone here understands that Federal Reserve and Central Banks have controlled the world economy by controlling the money supply. Everyone also knows that Trump managed to free the Fed and that is the reason why he is able to do a lot of things that normally would not have been possible.
My guess is that, when the Storm hits us there will be a huge upheaval in the World economic system - Wall Street might not even exist anymore (all they do is manipulate the stocks and launder money for the Cabal).
Couple of things will probably happen:
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Stock market might get wiped out
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The existing crypto (which is also deep state controlled) might get wiped out
Please take a moment to do your own research. Look at your exposure to stocks and crypto and try and figure out what you want to do about it.
Do some research in to new crypto standards that are coming to forefront. Its possible that blockchain will replace the stock market to make a transparent exchange that cannot be manipulated.
Spend some time on Superstonks reddit - there is invaluable information there. Research into GME and AMC stocks. Make sure you all learn as much as you can about all this and be prepared!
To be perfectly honest, I can not trust a single piece of financial advice I've seen on this .win; between the constant crypto shilling, the GME fundraising, and how easily people can be conned into Paytriot organizations, i.e. Ingersoll, etc.
I will simply say that I will gladly help my neighbor in times of need, because I am fully and diversely prepared to do so.
All said? It was "TO the Precipice," not "past the precipice."
Well said. Call me naive, but I still trust the plan and I think that the good guys are well aware of the economic consequences that are at risk.
Yes wiping out the accounts of millions of retirees can not be a part of the plan and can not be allowed to happen. My Dad survives on his 401k and his IRA. Wipe out the stock market and he is destroyed financially. Ive tried to get him to move something out of the market but he resists. Same with Banks.
I cant believe that we become a nation of paupers. If we do thats not winning, that is a clear loss.
This is inherently a false premise.
Why do I say this? The 401k is Promisory and based on money that simply does not exist.
If you look at the USD and how it works - every 1$ created out of thin air creates a debt of $0.30. That’s a %30 debt. That 401k is inherently only %70 there and possibly much much less than that in non-speculative Value.
Unfortunately that’s how hedge funds and all of this work. They overload meanings of finance to the point you need an Economic PHD to even sort of grasp the abstract of their case.
That does not bode well for security.
Tangible will beget the non-tangible very soon.
Look to the world - what nations are doing what?
Aggressively Stockpiling Gold
Money isn’t designed, as it currently exists, to persevere. Inherently we have at least a %50 reset coming and this is being echoed more and more every day
Hell Blackrock is sending shit tons of Money to China to invest and Soros kf all people warned them, publically, “that’s a really fucking bad idea”
Look at China now. They’re falling apart. It’s not very public but they are totally fucked. They are running internal Coups left and right and purging within the CCP itself rapidly. They are out of cash.
I predict that soon we see the Tariffs Trump put in place addressed by Zhou Buyd-Him. With those Tariffs China is literally imploding. The communist model is NOT working. Everything saying it is - projection. They thought they would have won long ago and despite stealing Tech they can’t make it for shit.
Aren't talking about Social Security? But you're also directly conflicting yourself -
So a 401K does exist but at only 70% stated value?
Depends entirely on what funds the 401k has allocated.
I was speaking to the premise that any 401k is based on the USD and the USD is inherently a debt-backed currency meaning that from the point of origin all the USD is doing to do is degrade in value.
https://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/us_stimulus_package_10_trillion_2020/us_stimulus_package_10_trillion.html
Basically if you want to save money the worst thing you can possibly due is leave the money as US Dollars.
Converting to Gold / Silver / etc is mandatory thing.
Elsewhere here someone said that diversifying is wise - I couldn't agree more and add that you want to have a significant portion in your literal physical possession.
People are going to watch wealth literally just evaporate.
Years worth of work - it will literally just be a few pixels on a computer screen / cell phone go away.
Whatever. His 401k FEEDS him and my mom. Keeps them warm. Clothes them. It is his only source of income. Illusory? It isnt to him.
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You seem to be taking offense.
I'm not sitting here on a computer miles away figuring out a way to gaslight anyone that has a 401k.
As I said previously - diversifying that 401k is always a good idea.
This thread is about how someone can prepare for economic changes coming down the pipe.
If you want to prepare by not preparing that's all you ( or I guess him ). He won't be alone.
Personally I've helped my father diversify his wealth into a number of avenues.
We even took advantage of the changes Trump pushed in so we could easily move the 401k / IRA money that we both had saved into more diversified means.
I personally believe if there can be a clean break there will be, and a way forward that is based on the gold standard but as we saw in 2008 they don’t give a rats ass about any of us, Those that are awake can deal the best we can but of those not awake I have no idea how this will come out. I have tried to warn people but they think I’m nuts so there you go.
As is the entire nation. Half of all citizens are invested in the market.
Ask yourself whether Trump (a) can see this coming and (b) has already figured out more than one way around it so everyone not only doesn't lose their life savings, but sees it grow beyond their wildest imagining
It would be worse than that. The stock market being wiped out would cause catastrophic issues. It would literally be the end of the world as we know it. The only ones that would survive would be the ones that can sustain themselves grid free.
https://www.coinwire.com/trump-officials-formally-meet-ripple
https://www.yahoo.com/now/trump-pardons-ripple-board-member-064153917.html
Unless something else turns on when old system turns off.
Yeah, XRP tied to gold. Just like we want. Best of both worlds, fast money between countries on the gold standard.
I agree. Some of the Gesara/Nesara experts I listen to say our money both in the bank and in our retirement (stock) funds will be safe. I hope that's true. When the QFS comes on board completely, it is the evil cabal who will not be able to get their hands on money. I get so many requests for donations right now from the usual organizations that profess to spend it on charity and don't. I think they are broke and panicking.
Absolutely! You can’t check out at a large chain store with out asking you to donate or round up. The small grocery store chains are the worst. I just say no. I used to be rude & say, “who’s going to donate to me.” My carrying levels get worse every day! I can’t believe people blindly give money to big charities.
You should check my history. GME can be Q proven.
Well who knows but Superstonk, Wall Street Silver and Cryptocurrency Reddit threads (Corrupt stock market, precious metals market and crypto markets) are waking people up. I’ve started to think there is possible white hats behind the GME issue.
I think bad actors are scrambling and showing their true crimes in the precious metals market.
And crypto is a manipulative shit show. Fun but still a shit show.
They are all being exposed. Fact
The amount of stuff you can learn on these threads is far more than you can ever learn from economic books.
Thats my conclusion as well. Either that, or the GME folks are giving a blueprint of the wall street shenanigans, which they seem to have exposed in bucketloads.
The true power of wisdom is the ability to listen to a hundred lies if it brings you the one truth.
Have you read anything at all on GME? It's manipulated beyond belief and the hedge funds have lost billions. How is that fundraising?
you mean the idea that the patriots would financially crush all of the people who hadn't bought gold is a non-starter?
that people who have spent all of this time keeping violence and instability from happening would do the exact opposite all of a sudden?
gosh!
I’m always skeptical of this advice… there is a terrible scenario where a bar of precious metal would do nothing to feed your family. Especially if you can’t protect it from thieves.
Brass is a good alternative as well
Combined with lead I can see these being perhaps the most valuable commodities in certain circumstances.
Put that lead in a copper jacket and then you'll have my attention
Well said
there is an assumption that things won't get that bad. if things got that bad than gold and silver are the least of your worries.
Exactly. Invest in warfare and survival tactics. Forge alliances with trusted neighbors.
rightly so because
Patriots
Are
Now
In
Control
Doesn't mean there aren't massive problems created by democrats at the border but this shit will get fixed, hang in there folks
No one for sure knows what’s going to happen. But typically gold and silver are to preserve wealth. But its a hierarchy of needs. You need to make sure you have the basics lined up first. In the event of a total collapse we will probably resort to bartering. Food, tools, fuel, medicine, etc will all be necessary for survival and valuable to barter with. Gold and silver will likely skyrocket in value (buying boatloads of near worthless dollars) and be used for larger purchases. This will be useful in paying off your mortgage or buying land, etc.
Also alcohol, tobacco, potseeds and seeds of all kinds, ammo, gunpowder, brass casings, lead, arrows and crossbow bolts, scrap metals, rope.
And mushroom spores
In a post-apocalyptic nightmare world this will be the least of anyone's concerns: making sure a central bank gets money it claims you owe
I don’t think it will be post apocalyptic, but it probably will be another Great Depression. And no, the banks won’t play nice and let you keep your property.
Ive bought a ton of junk silver in the last year to use as barter during a MadMax scenario, problem with metals is the weight.
I always thought PMs were for AFTER a crash, not during it. Of course no one is going to want silver when if they're starving and living through a mad max scenario.
PMs are more for a thunderdome situation, where society is putting the pieces back together and looking for a reliable way of exchanging goods
I posted this earlier today - I think you're right and so does this guy
https://greatawakening.win/p/13zMs8BQ5p/money-currency-and-the-great-awa/c/
Quite literally the only path. And ammo and firearms
imo, Gamestop is the key to all of this, I believe they are creating, or have created a method of using a blockchain to keep track of stocks, , after the economy collapses and GME moons, game stop will "take their ball and go home" so to speak, and create their own Stock exchange made with block chain technology.. all the dirty details of how HF's have manipulated the market (a lot of this IS out already but not everyone understands it yet) will come out, and respectable companies will want to move to gamestop exchange or whatever they are going to call it (gmerica???). I think this will make gamestop one of the most valuable companies in the world.
as for Crypto currency, my impression is that it is largely a tool by the deep state to manipulate, launder,, and basically create money out of nothing, for all the crypto "winners" there are, there are a whole lot of losers, ,. when the market crashes, i expect that crypto will go along with it, as the HF's sell all theirs off to cover their Shorts. I know a lot of people here like crypto, i'm not going to try to talk you out of it. Just remember, Trump was never a fan.
people treat crypto as an investment, and it isn't. it's a currency, there is a large difference, and therein lies the problem.
Fuck Anon, you might be on to something
The new hire at GME seems to be saying he will do exactly the same:
I always thought something like Stellar exchange on a blockchain would replace the current system, but I think something like this makes perfect sense.
As for Crypto, I am with you all the way. You summarized what I believe perfectly. I think the reason why people are so reluctant to let go of that idea is that there is an emotion connection. People have made themselves believe that Bitcoin is the currency of the people. But anyone with logical thinking will know that the day Bitcoin went mainstream it was only after it had been captured (assuming it had not been captured from day 1). Also reading the transcript of Johnheretohelp that Lin had posted a while ago will make it very clear that the DS has full control of Bitcoin.
Okay, I am off to checkout https://hodlberg.com/
I was wondering what the crypto stuff and GMERICA thing was all about.
Very interesting
I can prove, all markets moves market makers way. Even crypto.
“He describes a project he had been building, named Hodlberg…”
HODLBERG Kek
TPTB ?
There is a lot that doesnt sit right with me regarding Bitcoin origin. First, just one guy came up not just with the idea but also with the implementation. Then he disappeared, while owning hundreds of millions of dollar worth of bitcoin. And eventually the Mainstream started pushing it, in their own "controlled opposition" way, so that people felt like its the little guy standing against the big guy.
But the proof-of-work is what makes it really fishy. This is really the single reason why Bitcoin - supposedly the people's currency - became deep-state controlled, because work = energy = money. He who can burn most energy can take control of bitcoin, and we have seen this with the CCP/CIA server farms.
Yeah, it is definitely their dream, packaged as ours.
You can find it if you wade through Lin Wood's telegram
This might be the right one: https://populist.press/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/FULL-Transcript-of-Whistleblower-Interview.pdf
How has the "Gamestop" community created their own exchange?
Did they use something like DFINITY's blockchain Internet Computer?
https://dfinity.org
Using blockchain tech, you could host the dot wins on a network of everyones computers. Distributed on personal PCs instead of a Freemason server. I think it is kind of like seeding / leeching / torrenting.
And it is a public ledger for everyone to see the details of what is going on. No seedy under the table scummery.
Don't forget that the underground drug community was the first major adopter of crypto tech. I bought DMT back in the day using crypto. That's punk rock and doesn't seem very steered by the Alphabet Boys.
In fact, there is a great story about how the Silk Road got taken over by the FBI, everyone paying attention noticed the "glowies" who then stole everyones money. The FBI ran the site for another year then stole everyones money on the anniversary of the first time they did it. (you had to store your crypto on their site to do a transaction)
Not just drug but human trafficking as well.
FBI seems to sniff its way into any seedy underbelly of criminals so they can take part in the orgy.
If you read the Johnheretohelp testimony that Lin had released a few months ago, it becomes painfully obvious that the alphabet agencies had infiltrated the Bitcoin (either via exchanges or perhaps even more advanced encryption-breaking tech) and using it to blackmail and steal money from criminals using bitcoin.
not the gamestop community. . gamestop the company. and they haven't yet . I am speculating that they will. , or at least have some controlling interest in a company that does
All I know about it is what the New York Apple repair guy said about it.
I think it was this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQDHWu32W7o
Autists figured out that people with lots of Gamestop stocks were shorting it and up to shenanigans. Autists bought a bunch of it while it was cheap and somehow raised the value and made a bunch of money manipulating the market themselves.
That's as far as I've followed.
What are your sources on Gamestop creating their own exchange?
I would just characterise it slightly differently. The stocks were extremely undervalued due to shorting shenanigans by the bank folks, so the Autists just exposed this info and also pointed out how badly it was undervalued.
Shitadel and co have been trying to characterise this as "mass market manipulation" but that it never was. As the saying goes, the autists who buy GME are chickenshit who are too scared to make speculations, but GME is such a sure shot that it doesnt require much courage to go hodl on it.
As for Gamestop creating their own exchange - I dont think it has happened already, but seeing how much they have understood with the shady ways of wall street and how it almost cost them their company, I wont be surprised if they are working on that tech. Its probably quite far off, but check this out - https://gmedd.com/transformation/gamestop-to-bridge-traditional-e-commerce-and-blockchain/
Mad lad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9kqecbDcgM
What'd I just watch lol
you have said everything i wanted to say and more
Crypto is based off blockchain, and the different algorithms use different protocols. Also, I don't understand why the DS would try to block it so hard if they used it so often. They are scared that people can make money. Investing, in anything, will have its "winners" and its proportional share of losers (see FIAT stock markets). I am extremely diversified, but only after having done research. Investing with knowledge is key.
Yup Trump not liking it is why I am not getting into crypto currency. I think in the end we’ll have a precious metals backed currency. PM’s and GME are the only plays here imo.
As for Gamestop making a STO exchange im not sure. But stocks on blockchain is a perfect use case for it. A security token offering is just like a stock, but on the blockchain where they can't sell more shares than total supply, like they do know. I believe GameSpot is just making a NFT platform which makes sense since it is a game store, they should sell collectibles. Maybe that is how they are going to pay all the Gamestonck guys their money without crashing the system. They give them their cash out in form of a NFT.
I don't understand the crypto shills. There is not a single mention of Bitcoin in the drops so why do you think it's controlled by the deep state? If it were why wouldn't Q call it out?
Blockchain is going to free the internet.
I don't get the anti crypto shit either. I'm not trying to shill any one specific project, but the technology behind crypto and the removal of a middleman are incredibly important.
Why the fuck would the deepstate want you to avoid using banks? Why would they want you to have a deflationary currency?
Technically, crypto can be created from thin air, sure. But it's retarded to use that as a criticism when you're comparing it to cash, which can also be created from nothing. Difference is, cash has none of the technical capabilities of crypto.
And of course, there's this completely uneducated idea that Crypto is somehow completely private and can be used for illegal activities. Blockchain is more transparent than cash, by design. Cash is used for far more illegal activities than crypto.
Imho i think they want regular folks to cash in then rug pull example: the people who bought at 55-65k, theres always those 'some' that went all in and they have nothing. I feel like thats what they want. Money circles back to them. All theory tho and ill stay away because of it. Gme and amc are the way
You just described wall street
Oh i know lol its all fucked
A bankerless future is the only future. If you believe in (((them))), it takes care of that also, without firing up an oven.
Multiple currencies, that can’t be fucked with, without EVERYONE seeing, competing against each other … a free mans dream.
Trump mentioned about unregulated Crypto vs Regulated crypto
Trump said a lot of shit. Question is if crypto is deep state controlled why wouldn't Q call it out? The answer is it would've been called out.
Q never mentioned lots of things specifically. Watch the crypto pump and dumps when Marge starts calling though and I think you will have your answer.
Q mentioned every single central bank in the world controlled by Rothschild's but just happened to not mention Bitcoin?
I don't have all the answers, none of us do. We're all trying to figure out what's best, moving ahead.
I do know, however, that Trump said he doesn't trust crypto, that it wasn't backed by anything, and what if it went poof one day... Not an exact word for word quote, but close to what I remember him saying.
Trump also had a Twitter post where he asked why the price of silver has been suppressed for so many years, much lower than its true value, when it had been a basis of currency for ages.
And also, Q said that gold will destroy the Fed.
He also said he likes the US dollar, I think we could see a dollar the way JFK envisioned it at this is the way I’m hoping.
https://yaliberty.org/news/jfk-and-the-federal-reserve-executive-order-11110/
I am pretty sure, strong solid dollar is part of this plan.
Consider this though: he’s the pro America guy. Why would he say anything else other than any USD alternatives suck?
So trump off hand mentions it twice and you right it off as deep state? Don't hurt yourself doing research
Did you bother to read my post? Where did I "right" (write) anything off? I clearly said I don't have the answers, and I'm trying to figure it out. Did you skip that part while you were putting words in my mouth?
If you result to fixing my grammar, sorry voice text, then I know you have nothing left to say. Just gonna parrot more of trump's statements
You're correct, I have nothing left to say, because I said what I had to say in my initial comment, which you somehow managed to misconstrue as something else entirely.
Funnily he did have plenty to say while also fixing your grammar in a very classy way.
All markets are controlled. All, until they are not. VW squeez etc..
Exactly. People saying this have literally no idea what they’re talking about. However I could definitely see a major dip
People keep saying GME won't happen because the government will step in to stop it... but what if the government is all... kinda... "busy" with this whole storm going on. Who would be able to stop apes from keeping the price going into the millions if no one is able to stop them in the first place? It's going to be one RED OCTOBER.
Odds are in the houses favor
Past performance does not guarantee future results.
Especially when a black swan comes along and flips “the house” upside down.
That’s what is directly suggested with “black swan” - a ground-shifting event that cannot be forseeing or calculated by looking at historical precedent.
My technical analyst husband (Who is very very good at it) is predicting that sometime in october the market will reach its high and make a major correction. Not expecting a crash, but a good size downturn. We shall see. He’s usually right.
However, he says if it doesn’t turn mid October, and breaks through its ceiling, it will make a major move upward for a while. He says this is one of those iffy tipping points that will move big either way.
He’s gotten about half of our portfolio out of the markets at this point. And might do more depending on the technical indicators this week. He’s investing 10% in a hedge (betting downturn of the market.) and will up that if he sees the shift happen.
Predicting the stock market will suddenly disappear seems fantasy. Companies, commodities and businesses need a place to trade their wares, that won’t change.
If GME goes to a trillion dollars I think that might wipe out the market because nearly all of the elite have shorted it. We shall see, but I see a new system not based on total fuckery coming or else we will be right back here again.
This is interesting to hear. Is he also moving portfolio to Gold or Silver?
Also whats his thinking about the short squeeze ?
So my thinking was that while the stock market as we know it (Wall Street / Cabal control) disappears, there will be a new alternative where all the Companies and commodies can still be traded and it will not be possible to manipulate it.
I am guessing it will be blockchain based. But this also means the White Hats might make it possible to do an orderly transition from the old system to the new system and whatever problems that happen might be temporary.
"...I am guessing it will be blockchain based."
Tzero?
Hey, checkout the comment posted by Qasino and my response. Would love to know what your hubby thinks about this.
AMC diluted their stock,not much squeeze potential.
I own xxx shares of GME and x,xxx oz of silver. Hopefully gme will pop first and I can buy more silver.
Voat/Vote was Not to Dilute...
It didn’t happen.
It did according to the DD I read on supperstonk.
Also coke rat Cramer keeps shilling amc.
Those shares that were sold were the final remaining shares that had been sold in tranches over the years. It was something that was approved by the board many years ago. The vote this year to be able to sell more new shares didn't pass.
I'm not sure what to think about AMC. I've sold off 2,350 of 2,600 shares for a great profit, but I'm holding onto the remaining 250 just in case. I know GME is the main play, but I don't want to get totally out of AMC and then regret it, if it rockets.
I had some and lost faith in the company when they sold so many shares. And Cramer shilling them tells me they are not that short anymore.
But I do wish the amc apes luck
Fuck..
I believe we’re in the storm sir
Where were going we don't have Wallstreet bois.
The wins are usually full of half brain financial advice that people repeat because they liked how it sounded when another anon said it. Do your own research make your own decisions and don't take financial advice from people you literally do not know. Myself included. If your interested in something research it. If your concerned about something research it. Don't avoid or choose to involve yourself with something based on advice found here. Think for yourself while it's still legal.
This exactly, research!
Dammit, now if I do any research, I'm taking advice from someone I don't know.
One way out of this financial mess, at least for the U.S., is to offload roughly $10 Trillion of its national debt - which is most likely fictitious. At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if China or even a cryptocurrency like Bitcoin is holding trillions of tax payer assets we’ve never seen.
Cryptocurrencies will most likely feed the coming collapse. Many of the cryptocurrencies have been used as shells to cover illegal trades of commercial paper for China. I maybe wrong, but I believe crypto and Evergrande are part of the same saga.
1: I think trump made a deal to prop the stock market up. You are telling me with people unable to find workers, massive inflation, backed up supply chain and all the stock market is still this high? I call bs. I think they are making sure the little guy is protected 2: I dont think crypto is going away. Could it be deep state sure but its survived almost 15 years at this point and the DS has plenty of ways to lainder money without investing a currency. Also McAfee and others are super pro crypto.
I think the transition will be interesting but they won't wipe the whole stock market that would cause far larger issues when trying to rebuild. The Q team wouldn't be seeking legal remedy through our corrupt justice system if they didn't think there was hope they would burn everything to the ground and say duck the rules just like the DS.
Agreed. What we see in the market today is this bubble. He did it by controlling the Fed and making them print money on his terms.
But I think a LOT of junk in the stock market needs to be burst, and there is no way around it. The harder something has been propped up by the Cabal, the harder its going to burst. What is currently going on is probably trying to find out how much of what has been propped up and making a precision strike.
Hell, I am too, just not the legacy kind thats all captured. The new generation crypto is coming and will be truly what we all believed bitcoin was going to be.
If you hodl,it will come back,but not as high for a while I bet.
Q and Q+ said our investments would remain secure, they would have to be.
So I really don't think the stock market is just gonna go poof and we all lose the value we put into them.
Maybe crypto, but Q never mentions it.
I don’t think Q said this.
Its in Q 34.
"Rest assured, the safety and well-being of every man, woman, and child of this country is being exhausted in full".
For many people, their 401k IS their safety and future well-being.
The stock market is not going to be wiped out.
That’s a stretch. The market will come back, but it will have to be different in order to prevent the same shit from happening again (naked short selling). Q is speaking about your safety and well being when the shit goes down (riots).
Can you point me to what Q and Q+ said about investments?
Its in Q 34.
"Rest assured, the safety and well-being of every man, woman, and child of this country is being exhausted in full".
For many people, their 401k IS their safety and future well-being.
The stock market is not going to be wiped out.
I don't believe Q or Trump ever mention anything like this. In fact, I don't believe we even reach the precipice until after the stock market has collapsed. It will likely be Biden's swan song.
The only hint we ever get from Q is that gold will destroy the Fed, and this is never elaborated upon.
I think you are in for a very unpleasant surprise if you think your investments are secure. You likely don't even own your investments. You are just a creditor to your brokerage, who is a creditor to a larger brokerage, who lets the DTCC hold the stock of all their accounts in trust. When the $1.5 quadrillion derivatives bubble pops, there is going to be a very harsh lesson for everyone in counter party risk. Even a tiny fraction of a percent of that which is unbalanced can bring down the entire global economy.
Now, what kind of reparations are going to be made later on after the war is over is another question entirely. I would bet that there is a plan to make restitution to the little guys for the losses eventually. But don't count on your investments surviving. Nobody has ever guaranteed this.
Its in Q 34.
"Rest assured, the safety and well-being of every man, woman, and child of this country is being exhausted in full".
For many people, their 401k IS their safety and future well-being.
The stock market is not going to be wiped out.
Money is just a means of exchange, goods and services will keep their value relative to each other independent of whatever currency domination the market assigns to them.
Crypto being wiped out is about as probable as precious metals being wiped out.
Hmm... how is that? Metals have intrinsic value, crypto has no intrinsic value.
hedera hashgraph has intrinsic value
"Most of the people who have no use for Bitcoin don’t understand it, and the same can be said about gold. This makes gold and Bitcoin spiritual twins; one has been born into the physical world, the other into the digital."
https://medium.com/coreledger/the-intrinsic-value-of-bitcoin-1f278b9ed18a
edit: The truth hurts, I guess. In my experience a lot of the bitcoin butthurt comes from people who wish they got in on it sooner.
Except one asset class has proven, durable, consistent, inherent value, and the other is a series of laughable pump-and-dump schemes of fundamentally worthless tokens.
Other than that, yes, the risks are totally the same. 😆
Bitcoin's growth is an extremely consistent upward S curve that has given by far the best ROI of any asset this decade by many thousands of miles.
I agree. It’s not a series of pump and dumps… it’s a somewhat predictable 4 year cycle, based on the Bitcoin halving event. Do hedgies use some lower cap coins to pump and dump? Sure they do. They do the same with stocks. That doesn’t change the fact that major crypto’s (Bitcoin and Ethereum) have consistently proven their “durability” over every single 4 year cycle in history. Crypto is “laughable” only to those that can’t read charts and understand the “why” behind these volatile swings.
Hedgies can't cover. Hedgies are fukt.
I want my tendies. We're coming for you Kenny.
There was a whole thread where someone explained how deeply Shitadel was connected to Fed and sucking the Fed printing press money straight into their naked short dress dances and at the same time let their friend Bozo buy up all the real estate on the cheap.
I read that thread, but I have the memory of a goldfish so I can't remember the important stuff.
There was so much in there. To fully understand I will have to dig into multiple different areas - which I planned to (and still plan to) some day ... hopefully ...
Currently my "economics" todo looks like:
Understand the March 2020 mini-stock crash
How did Trump take control of the Fed
How does Fed/Larry Fink's plan to buy corporate bonds work? Who is left holding the bag?
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I took my own inherited stock out of the market and put it into real gold and old silver coins years ago. It is a fall back in any case should we need it for any reason. And if not it will be passed down to family when we are gone. My husband still has stock, though
We also have food storage... not just for ourselves but for our neighbors, too should the SHTF.
And guns and ammo ... should they be needed.
We are prepared.
i've gone all in on gold, silver and XRP.. yolo
I have kept my XRP and XLM crypto hoping for the best yet prepared for the worst. YOLO
Yeah. I made a ton on XRP when I picked it up at 33 cents, and if it keeps continuing to slide back under $1 I will pick up more.
As for XLM, I have done a deep dive into their developer white paper and I am very impressed. I am convinced that with the amount of shenanigans that go on in the exchanges in Wall Street, we will need a transparent exchange on a blockchain, and XLM certainly seems built for that. Hopefully people will keep trying to break it and prove that its sturdy
Glad to see some folks still have faith in those Cryp-toes! 🤩
My friend has a good analogy for crypto (after I started convincing him about how Bitcoin is on its way out and new cryptos like XRP are on their way in). Crypto is like handhelds. Bitcoin is like the blackberries. People loved them, they were huge, but they are gone. XRP/XLM are like the iPhones and Pixels.
Totally! My only complaint is: I bought my first purchase around 43 cents so thats great. Second purchase I saw XRP rising and I bought at 1.73 lol... can’t wait to see XRP above that number again. What do they say? To the moon?
XRP would be money between countries.
XLM is the American dollar.
ALGO is the Canadian dollar and other countries in the commonwealth.
XRP is for financial institutes for payment processing
XLM is native token for Stellar, which is for running a fast exchange on the blockchain
I have noticed that XRP is close to parity with the dollar. Which makes me wonder if they are planning to peg it to the dollar or replace dollar with XRP etc.
Agreed, the new generation crypto would be backed by actual assets (even though I dont like to use the term stablecoin, as I think all the current "stablecoins" are controlled)
I also believe USD will not lose value, I think Trump has taken great pains to do a lot of magic, most of which goes over my smoothbrain, but I strongly believe USD will hold its value before being moved to the new system, whatever that may be.
Trump is letting people get killed by the vaccine to get us to the precipice. I think your hope that he won't let the USD crash is misguided. The vast majority, even today, are still more interested in protecting what little they have left rather than making the necessary changes. The quickest way to reverse that dynamic is to remove the tiny amount that people have left.
It can always be restored later, but I think people are naive thinking the transition isn't going to be extremely painful. I haven't seen anything that makes me think the economic reset is going to be pleasant.
This. How would you take money and everything from cabal without taking it from common people if they are miles ahead in financial investing game. They would already knew.
Or maybe beat them in their game when you catch them cheating? GME?
The foreign election influence asset confiscation EO would clear trillions without touching common people. It could wipe out Google, Amazon, Twitter, Walmart, Zuck, Soros, MSM, and about half of the politicians and bureaucrats. You might even take a chunk out of Hollywood, too.
Buy physical silver. Highly manipulated and hugely undervalued. The stock market is a casino and the house always wins. Also brass and lead. Those are also super valuable in this situation.
GME, AMC, and crypto shorts. I'm 100% invested for the collapse of the financial system.
I read that credit card and mortgage debt might forgiven. That is also a nice fact for the indebted class.
Please take these claims with a big pinch of salt. Yes, some of the debt might be forgiven due to predatory contracts. Maybe some will be forgiven due to the holders of that debt being liquidated / prosecuted and what not.
But what will be most probably be cancelled will be national debts due to predatory nature of central banks.
But dont expect all credit card and mortgage to be forgiven.
On a Conservative facing direction, your advice is Sage. From a faint hope ahead point of view, my romantic vision is more pleasant.
I hear ya, I will still root for your vision!
Robinhood was my first economist crush.
You have chosen unwisely lol
Doesn't really matter as long they get wiped out
Blockchain cannot be the new standard. It fails in every aspect it claims to succeed
crypto will not get wiped out. bitcoin is where all these corrupt people are dumping their money. ethereum even moreso with NFTs. all these companies are starting to accept BTC as payment bc they WANT it. they want the average person to give up their BTC while its only 40k so they can have it all.
Gold and Silver are to Fiat and Bitcoin What paper ballots and ID are to electronic voting and mail in.
Not as convenient but harder to cheat.
Even if bitcoins block chain is secure and with out knowledge of further computer capabilities we don’t know it is. The exchanges are not secure the government just need to control the exchanges to control the price of Bitcoin.
There will always be a stock market because whenever there are multiple owners to companies, there will always be a market to buy and sell those partial ownerships. However, that market doesn't have to be the one that currently exists.
Your solution is GME? laughable. Obv you have skin in the game, but nice preamble.
Crypto can be manipulated like every single investment you mentioned, but I think it is the big F U to the cabal bankers.
When the serfs can create currency (aka essentially what crypto has done)- you now have a challenge to the authority.
The US and China cabal moving against crypto is a BUY signal. They will only amplify the already volatile market, they cannot stop it and they’re worried.
The US banking system is backed by the military.
If Q is real, there is a faction going on, meaning crypto cannot really be challenged in the way a cabal would want to take it down. Crypto ruins everything for them. Unfortunately it also erodes some financial markets where we may have investments ( retirement, etc).
My advice is have DIVERSE investments. Real estate, crypto, 401K, stock, IRA- etc
Stay away from single stock fantasies - aka game stop. And stay away from those highly manipulative and stupid Reddit sites that have egotistical and maniacal wall streeters trying to game the system for their personal gain.
By the way I have never said this but a typo is why I have a “Y” at the end of my name. Good day patriots and God bless America.
Read the Q post about Game Stop. And research the events that have happened around GameStop. Normally I would agree with you, but the Apes were trained for a purpose. Keith Gillis and Ryan Cohen tweets and actions support the white hat plan obviously in action.
I took all of the Q info on GameStop (as I recall reading every single Q post created since inception) as people waking up to the financial manipulation and taking action ala grab the big banks by the balls. It was poetic in that it was synonymous with the idea of good vs evil; evil (big tech/banksters) being discovered (great awakening/ white hats) and people taking action ( patriots forcing a squeeze).
It doesn’t mean Q wants the system to collapse and people to starve world wide as a result. But a migration to crypto is inevitable- i think it was mentioned that we have to suffer (maybe a shift in markets)- but it’s not the intent- if we can root out the corruption without crashing the market- that would be the pie in the sky. Just my interpretation,of course I’m simplifying.
Start fasting and eating once a day. Simple healthy foods. Be minimal. Then when shit hits, you'll already be in the zone.
Our savings might all disappear instantly. Invest in some survival supplies that will keep you alive. Like a battery generator and solar panel. Life straws.
Once we get through this hump, we're going to have abundance. Everyone. No successful form of UBI can take place until we reset.
Doesn’t UBI put us right back into the situation we find ourselves in? Specifically the government siphoning vast amounts of wealth off of the productive middle class and giving it to a growing number of non-workers constantly demanding higher amounts of UBI for “equality”.
They already want the Banks to let them know who has more than $ 600.00 in their accounts time to place it elsewhere.
I think everyone's true value will shine bright, and everyone will get a piece of the pie of resources.
For example, we've all heard the saying regarding social media that,
What YOU got that money instead of what facebook is making off of you?
Conceptually, I think this concept translates to other practical areas in life as well. We're going to have more abundance than we know what to do with. Especially if free energy becomes a thing. Either from disclosure of what we already have, or innovations here on Earth.
I think you’re right about abundance, in the sense that people will realize how much had been taken from them, and how productive they can really be. But in my opinion UBI immediately puts the country on an irreversible course to end up where we are now in another 50 years.
Agreed that UBI is not where the discussion should be right now. The only way it works is if we treat the foundation of our symptoms. Drain the swamp.
The last year has been a journey in healthy eating, even though I am far away from eating once a day. But I agree, after all this is behind us, we will have abundance, but the thing we need to survive in abundance is spirituality. I believe even that will be in abundance by then.
I surely hope there is no UBI. In my books, abundance is when people's energy is rewarded without manipulation or taxation. You still need to work, but you can do it even with being specially skilled, or being under someone's control. Just the fact that you are willing to work is enough to to reward you.
Coins and bullion might be already too scarce to acquire at this point. But definitely having cash around will help in the immediate future.
How do you know this?
Will keep an eye on this thread
SOME (or rather, most) of the stock market will be obliterated. But not all. SOME crypto may get wiped. But not all. And everything is FDIC secured, right? Might be tough at first, but ultimately the US Federal government will have to either A.) force the entities to pay you and/or B.) cover it themselves (debt forgiveness? Tax free? Land? has to be some kind of compensation). Luckily if this all happens, Patriots will be in control and will protect us 🦍
GME and AMC are going to bring down the entire system of corrupt hedgies and banking institutions and the manipulation of the stock market. Can't stop it. Shorts can't cover. Likely lots of building jumpers, as sad as that sounds...
Crypto CURRENCY is the future of how money will work around the globe. Fiat gold and silver hold no intrinsic value. They hold value only because generations have been duped into thinking "pretty" and "rare" = valuable. Ask the Dutch about tulips. Not that I'm against the concept of what gold and silver represent, e.g. a reserve, a standard by which to measure value and currency. Getting off the gold and silver standards did the US a ton of harm over the years. But returning to it wont solve out monetary problems. Gold and silver are pretty to look at, but that's it. CURRENCY is just a medium, money, a physical representation of value. All monetary systems depend on TRUST. Blockchain technology within crypto is light years ahead of what we call "money" (bank notes, cash, checks, etc.), when it comes to matters of security. Sure there are still kinks to work out in the system, but the modern world has already been dealing with digital currency for decades to the point where many don't even realize it. How many still even get a payCHECK? Direct deposits are the norm. Digital currency. How many people pay with credit/debit cards? Digital currency. How many use PayPal, Venmo, Zelle? All digital currency. Crypto wallets are already in use and will be as mainstream as plastic cards within the next decade. Those dooming on crypto are the equivalent to businesses that refused to take cards back in the late 90s. The inevitable is here. Get used to it. Learn it. Adapt. Or be left in the dust.
WITH THAT SAID. I do think that BTC is going to crash hard. It's not a currency, at least not for normal people. Price is too high. It's basically digital gold. Real people don't make transactions in gold. Nobody is going to spend .0000000001 BTC to buy a cheeseburger. The rich elite have been using BTC to keep their money "safe" from the IRS. I partly can't blame anyone wanting to keep the slimeballs hands off their wealth, but at the same time, plenty have used it for more nefarious purposes. BTC will never be a mass use currency. It might serve as the replacement for a country's gold/silver reserve, from which they can base the value of their own national crypto coin and/or bank notes and/or simple digital accounting notes. El Salvador and Panama already going that route it seems. But affordable crypto like ETH, ETC, DOGE etc (thousands of coins) are the future for actual cryptoCURRENCY because the average person can afford them and at a lower price can use them like the "dollars" we've already been used to.
Tldr; BUY THE DIP. People who are late to the party have been blessed with a golden opportunity to still get in with all of these massive sales recently.
You realize that silver is the best conductor of energy? 100% conductivity is no joke
Sure. But it's also rare, expensive, and easily tarnishes, rendering it ineffective at conductivity. Just because something CAN be good at something, doesn't make it the most practical or efficient for the desired task. Not saying that silver isn't valuable, but as a mode of CURRENCY it offers nothing more than any other stone unless everyone is convinced that it is worth more. Buy and sell it as a commodity. We already took silver out of our coins in 1965. It's never going back into our money. That ship has long since sailed. Time to look towards more practical solutions to achieve the same goal: TRUST in currency to be of fair value and secured.
Also, silver has some of the most amazing medicinal benefits. Colloidal silver will revolutionize the medical industry as it did in the 1800's.
Tarnishing only occurs on the exterior of the silver while the interior still conducts at 100%. And yes it is rare which adds to its value. It does not need to be used as a physical coin, it just needs to be used to back/create the value of the new quantum currency.
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I have never invsted into crypto but I can agree with your opinion.
There is only one moass stock and it is not amc. Popcorn stock was and is a distraction. The media wants you to think it will moon, which means it will do the opposite.
When has the media ever said AMC will moon? They haven’t, they hate AMC. It’s not a distraction… Blackberry, Sundial, Clover and Ocugen most likely were the distractions. Hedgies manipulate AMC just as much as GME. In fact the short interest rate (needed for MOASS) is only 12.35% with GME and is a whopping 18.69% for AMC. That means AMC is shorted MORE than GME, not less. I like GME, but I also love AMC and the AMC ape community, and both are in it to shed light on a rigged financial system.
I’ve seen the media talk about amc far far more than GameStop and that to me is just a dead giveaway