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posted 4 years ago by Quelle 4 years ago by Quelle +486 / -0
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– redlotus69 54 points 4 years ago +54 / -0

They try it and Taiwan bombs the three gorges.

Assuming it doesn't give out before then.

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– MudDog 31 points 4 years ago +31 / -0

or china false flags it

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– y000danon 26 points 4 years ago +26 / -0

I've thought about this.

China has a single major issue of mouths to feed,

Unfortunately it seems that bombing out 3 gorges very well could give them a cause to do a whole hell of a lot.

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– Th3Cho0sing0ne 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

By doing this, they would be inviting their assured destruction. I dont believe the ccp are suicidal at this point. They are way too far gone to make use of FF events. Absolutely noone would believe them or come to their military aid...especially Russia.

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– y000danon 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

When I see the CCP I really don’t know what k am looking at.

I do see the systemic Maoist type lines - I fear the New World Order lines lurking behind purview - I always harken back to David Rockefeller cooing and hawing at “The CCP has created a well-oiled machine” and their strange customs like the “intrepid %30” in which the corrupt are paid off so highly that their intents to tow the line are so thoroughly reimbursed.

I don’t pretend to know them. What i am weary of, however, is I firmly believe they are totally ok with burning their underclasses - as has always been the line in China.

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– y000danon 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

[P]

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– LongTimeListener 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Russia may play at being friendly with China but they will never come to their aid militarily. Russia shares a 2600 mile border with an aggressive China intent on dominating the world. Putin is not dumb. He would love to see China defeated. They present far more threat to Russias sovereignty than the US ever has.

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– Whirlybot 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

And this would be his chance to 'annex those Russian-speaking areas' with China's defense being otherwise occupied.

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– Nurarihyon_no_MAGA 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

They could also attack their factories

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– y000danon 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Yes. Centralize and fold

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– CMAnon 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

The CCP has no problem killing people to eliminate food shortages. No different than killing kids to harvest their organs for Party members.

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– y000danon 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Agree.

People are just ants to build the next mound to the CCP. Read Mao. Literally a phrase he used.

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– DiveAndBait 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

You think they care about feeding the people?

They'll make it a priority to feed the soldiers and their families and make them gatekeep against themselves and the wall of the straving

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– AFPede 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

Watch the water?

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– Darwyn 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Man that's almost worse than a nuke. Just a few long range missiles and that dam would pop like an overfilled balloon. Can you imagine if they targeted other dams at the same time. Could they just wash away the whole country?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_military_and_paramilitary_personnel

Sort by total. Taiwan is 9th at 1.8 mil. Then do per capita total. Taiwan is 6th. Don't let its size fool you. Even without help Taiwan will give China a good spanking. I'm not actually sure China can even defeat Taiwan without flattening the whole island into a pile of rubble.

I think you're right though the damage Taiwan might do to China even if they win in the end might be catastrophic.

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– Island_Photo 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Well then at least they could become refugees in the south china sea...

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– justmadethisacc7725 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

https://youtu.be/Zs1ahNtj498

Taiwan is literally designed to fight China.

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– Nurarihyon_no_MAGA 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Or they could liberate Hong Kong

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– russiah 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

It's already almost done.

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– Judicator 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

CCP taking Taiwan by force is a bit laughable to be quite honest.

Taiwan is built to be a fortress, down to every inch.

PLA casualties would be astronomically high per foot; they could probably make a new island with the bodies of the dead.

That's without adding in Japan and South Korea.

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– populist_nationalist 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

It's about half the size of West Virginia so I don't think it would take much to overwhelm.

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– Judicator 48 points 4 years ago +48 / -0

You ready for the breakdown?

This is all according to stats supposedly from multiple militaries, including the PLA [People's Liberation Army]. You'll have to forgive me if I don't have sources all on hand, this has been stuff I've dug around for a long time and very few of my sources are in one place. A lot of it shouldn't be too hard to find, though.

Lets walk through a play-by-play.

The PLA can't just strike Taiwan out of the blue. Troops need to be moved, ships, vehicles, etc. all need to be massed. I suppose the PLA could launch missiles or perform air strikes, but that would be suicidal to do without the full invasion at the ready; Taiwan is equipped with some of the greatest military equipment in the world [thanks to the US], including some of the best air defense systems in the world. Tons of PATRIOT missile launchers and missiles, and so on. Extensive range, potentially even to the mainland.

Taiwan also has long range ordinance that likely could strike the mainland. As another commenter here mentioned, they're almost certainly in striking distance of major targets on the Chinese mainland, including potentially the Three Gorges Dam.

In this sense, Taiwan being smaller is a significant advantage; less ground to protect.

So, we get our major troop and fleet movements, alerting Tiawan and any allies to what is likely about to come. Preparations are made; freighter ships can be sunk to block off major ports, mines are laced around the island by their submarine fleet, and, of course, ground and air forces are on standby.

As soon as the PLA goes seaborne, they have to contend with long range ordinance and air strikes from Taiwan. The PLAAF outnumbers the Taiwanese Air Force significantly, but numbers aren't everything, and the name of the game for Taiwan would more likely be harassment than direct confrontation.

So, the whole way through, Chinese ships are being harassed, bombarded, torpedo'd by Taiwan's submarines, and running into minefields. They will have no harbor to dock in at Taiwan, leaving only the beachheads, of which there are only about 13 viable ones. Again, small size is a major asset for Taiwan.

All of these beachheads have been fortified to all shit. There are bunker networks under them, razor wire is readily available, mines, etc. Oil pipes also are strategically run under the beaches; they can be ruptured in the event of an invasion to turn the beach into a never ending inferno. Chemical plants have been strategically positioned near the beach heads as well; in a life-or-death situation like this, workers can be evacuated and those chemicals can be released onto the beach. We're talking super toxic shit. It'd fuck them up tremendously.

As an aside; consider the Allied invasion of Normandy. It was a bloodbath. If the Germans had exact knowledge of the chosen beaches, they would have completely slaughtered allied troops; the invasion wouldn't have stood a chance.

Now consider that not only would Taiwan know what beaches, they also would have the advantage of decades of fortifications. Do the numbers on that.

If by some incredible feat, the PLA makes it past the beaches, every highway, bridge, etc. has been acknowledged and planned so that transportation of motorized vehicles can be halted every damn step of the way. Bridges can be strategically blown out, leaving troops no easy way across, valleys and gulches laced with traps, the works. Scorched earth is totally viable as well.

Now, getting back to Taiwan's size. The PLA boasts of about two million strong IIRC; Taiwan is really not that far behind, being able to get 1 million. Given the small size of the island, the PLA's number advantage would be almost completely nullified; where can you fit so many soldiers effectively on the front?

Then there's the mountains. Taiwan is longer "north to south" so to speak; the east side is completely mountains. Taiwanese forces and civilians can retreat to the mountains, and the mountains can become another fortress in and of themselves; they can almost certainly extensively bombard the rest of the island, always getting a bead on advancing PLA forces.

Cities would turn into playgrounds for the Taiwanese forces. Steel cables can be strung between buildings to kill any helicopters or planes that attempt to fly low in urban areas. Every tall structure would be a sniper's playground.

Every square foot of Taiwan would be a meat grinder and a half for PLA forces. Could they muster more than their two million? Almost certainly. Would they have the morale to continue? No fucking way. The propaganda is that the PLA would easily crush Taiwanese forces and "reuinify" the country. The reality is that you'd probably see hundreds of thousands of bodybags before they even take the beaches. The Taiwanese would know there is no surrender, they would fight to the absolute bitter end. They would employ whatever tactics work; and given their training and equipment, they'd put up guerilla warfare that would make Vietnam look like a daycare.

The PLA knows this. If they attempt an invasion of Taiwan it will be as a desperate last attempt to hold onto their empire; the invasion would be suicide.

Any questions?

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– Squidpup 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

Well that was pretty convincing

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– FOREVER_MAGA 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Sweet Mother of God! What an excellent post!

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– Darwyn 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_military_and_paramilitary_personnel

They only have 168k active duty but they have 1.8 million reservists. Total per capita is 6th in the world. Taiwan is more than ready for a real fight. Like you laid out it would be a blood bath regardless of who won.

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– Judicator 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yeah I knew I was in the right ballpark but couldn't quite remember what it was. Thanks!

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– kula 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Great comment!

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– Furnardan 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

It is small, but the island is loaded up with our tech and weapons systems. They have a significant air-force and missile defense system, and their 290,000 military force is all defending the island, not stationed anywhere else. It would take more than just a few days to take Taiwan, likely months, and China would suffer heavy casualties in the end. War Scenarios place the take over at lasting anywhere from 3 to 6 months without allied aid to Taiwan. Not something that could be a simple false flag event.

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– Lupinate 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Was about to note that taiwan is a SAM site porcupine by my understanding, practically anywhere a missile defence battery can be built it has.

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– Th3Cho0sing0ne 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

If your assumption was valid... Taiwan would already be a Chinese theme park.

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– justmadethisacc7725 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

https://youtu.be/Zs1ahNtj498

Yeah you’re looking at it wrong.

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– Cpleb 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

South Korea seems to be heavily infiltrated with ccp.

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– CQVFEFE 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

They will soon take Taiwan.

Now's a great time to take Taiwan, while our pilots are grounded due to the risk of blood clots induced by the required "vaccination". In a few years when our armed forces are reduced by 80 or 90% due to the assassination vaccination, it will be the right time to take over the world.

Guess whose military hasn't been forced to take the kill shot?

Getting this yet?

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– Bedminster 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Want to find out if Taiwan has nukes? This is a good way and it's rumored they do have nukes and will use them on China if need be.

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– catsfive [M] 52 points 4 years ago +52 / -0

OMG. A plane post with actual context and legit news behind it. TO THE TOP

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– AmazingFlightLizard 28 points 4 years ago +28 / -0

It’s ADIZ. You find AIDZ in San Francisco.

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– Kekshot 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

K E K. In Portland,aswell.

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– RitcherBelmont 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Thank you - it was never spelled out and I’m just a normie.

Air Defense Identification Zone

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– AmazingFlightLizard 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Nah, I was mostly just seizing on it to make the AIDZ joke, because low brow humor is my particular cup of tea.

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– propertyofUniverse 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

You aren't just a normie. Normies don't contribute here except possibly to disrupt.

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– y000danon 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

Though China has a 2 million man standing military - they have had no exercise.

Real Estate Accounts for ~%30 of the Chinese GDP

Evergrande is going tits up

DO the math

China needs to prove a case.

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– Norman_F_Dixon 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

What does Q have to say about Taiwan?

https://qagg.news/?q=Taiwan

Isn't that interesting.

https://youtu.be/fNfpel0c2J8?t=2147

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventure_of_Silver_Blaze

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– Phishhed44 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

That was a great episode 👍🏽

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– Brabarian714 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Nothing directly, unless it is abbreviated.

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– Norman_F_Dixon 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

That "nothing" directly speaks volumes.

"What if China, Russia, and others are coordinating w/ POTUS to eliminate the NWO?"

https://qagg.news/?q=%23%23140

If China is coordinating w/ POTUS to eliminate the NWO and "China" (not the CCP) is making troop / military assets (planes / ships) demonstrations as regard to Taiwan... then logically there is "something rotten in the state of Denmark."

"80% covert."
"20% public."

https://qagg.news/?q=%23%23144%2C189%2C190

What if "Taiwan" is under the same influence of puppet masters as the United States.

Lots of Pentagon and Establishment Democrat and Republican support for "Taiwan."

cc: u/MAGAdeburger , u/v8power

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– MAGAdeburger 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Taiwan (not "Chinese Taipei") is merely the island where the government of the Republic of China has been stuck in exile since 1947. Hopefully in due time, the Communist occupiers will be ousted and the legitimate Chinese government restored. It would make sense that the ROC would be allies in the war against the NWO/DS/cabal... the US has been building them up as a proxy army for decades. Nixon should have never made the change to recognize the CCP as the "ruling power" and fucked the ROC out of UN representation.

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– AlaskaMAGA 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

I love plane fags.

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– BabylonNTing 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

MonkeyWerx is starting to become disappointing after saying he isnt “a big chemtrail guy” over the weekend.

I can see his bias as he used to be in the USAF, but this isnt 1998 where most people think contrails and chemtrails are the same thing either.

He also worked at Lockheed Martin for 30 years, home of the dew and now owned by the Rottnchilds. He cannot be that dumb not to know what is happening.

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– 17-45Pepe45_17 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

He's still monetized on jewtube too. Anyone who didn't get purged is on the take.

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– dty6 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

He got on my last nerve and I quit watching. He says he only gives data but I find that he's pushing an agenda and I don't like it. Also, he's not too smart.

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– BabylonNTing 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Agreed, I think he is pushing an agenda too, and really got on my nerves about a month ago about “us needing to do something about stopping the illegals” as if we could possibly shit out military assets and personnel and take care of it ourselves.

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– dty6 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Yes. My husband won't even listen to him. I should say that husband is a retired USAF fighter pilot. So when MW tries to act like a military insider, he makes a lot of mistakes in his terminology and ideas. MW really does push his illegals agenda, which makes me suspicious. Like when he was taking about civilian aircraft landing at Laughlin AFB near Del Rio ... that's not uncommon. The Del Rio airport has very short runways and the larger planes do land at Laughlin. Anyway. I took a break.

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– BabylonNTing 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

He definitely pushes the fear porn narrative hard, and what makes it even more suspicious is how many followers he has on youtube and they make no effort to take him down.

Same with Patreon which he uses as a platform, Patriots get taken down and yet he survives the purges.

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– GDZeus 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

They will probably try to take Taiwan before Xidan gets kicked out of office and before someone more competent like Trump or the military takes over. With Xidan they know he isn't working with a full deck in his noggin, and Harris isn't any better at making decisions.

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– ProphetOfKek 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Even she can’t suck off the entire Chinese army.

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– DCSucks 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

I wouldn't bet against her

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– Asyouwish 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Lol. Your comment and username...lol

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– Th3Cho0sing0ne 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

This is the worst case scenario for the ccp. Even with a controlled US president...they are still unready to take Taiwan. The problem being that this illusory 'window of opportunity' they have is an invitation to their doom.

This really is their best opportunity, but, its still a suicide mission.

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– ComingInHot 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Wasn’t there some 4chan larp talking about something like this?

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– Im-Wide-Awake 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

No they talked about something that was supposed to happen days ago. Storming beaches and all that

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– Im-Wide-Awake 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Right at 2:15 am or some shit

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– morum 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

wasn't japan posturing to help taiwan?

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– Moman 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Or Taiwan could totally fuck China up and Taiwan takes over power in the region. You all have to admit with all the crazy shit going these days it's 100% possible!

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– Unitymyass 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

exactly my thoughts with japans help and xi on trumps side ccp gets smoked

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– Chairman_Downlord 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Rare? They violate Taiwan’s air space with military aircraft almost every day

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– TheRoyalRob 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I saw this recently made me feel a little better about Taiwan's chances...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs1ahNtj498

But I really don't know how realistic it is. The fact that the Chinese military has never seen any real action... I think is going to be a huge factor.

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– Smeg 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

They did see action... once in '79.

They did great against civilians but when the Vietnamese military geared up, they handed the chinese their asses.

The Taiwanese are well trained, well equipped and highly motivated... I doubt the chinese with their homemade knockoff equipment will even get close to the shoreline.

At best all they'll do is use their ships to lay a foundation for a bridge to the mainland.

Then there's Japan and South Korea...

;-)

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– MuckeyDuck 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I can't believe they have not already invaded given the incompetent Biden military leadership. Biden would be more worried about whether any women, homosexual, and transgender Chinese troops participated in invasion than he was concerned with the state of Taiwan.

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– Auroraalpha 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I think they are testing Taiwanese response, so they can enact an invasion of the offshore islands. This way, they can take aggressive action to prove themselves, without going to a full-scale war

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– Merkava_4 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

What is the geographic size of Taiwan when compared to Israel?

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– russiah 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The bio weapon, I mean covid was a botched job... So they probably gonna do something even more brazen.

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– Heldiggrisen 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

They wanted to be seen.

If not, they would have switched off their transponders.

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