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Fully vaccinated Carlos Santana (74 years old) collapses on stage during performance in Clarkston, Michigan (media.greatawakening.win) Video in mod comment
posted 3 years ago by ThePowerOfPrayer 3 years ago by ThePowerOfPrayer +293 / -0
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– Iknowstuff 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

"It could have been worse." -- too soon?

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– ILoveIvermectin 21 points 3 years ago +21 / -0

Thank god he was vaxxed and boosted.

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– HunterzCrackPipe 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Surprised he didn't tweet this from the ambulance

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– ThePowerOfPrayer [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I posted this research elsewhere in the thread, which explains why I listed Santana's age in the post title yet still created this graphic.


I listed Santana's age in the title because we are the news now. We need to present all of the evidence and let people come to their own conclusions.

I've come to my own conclusion, which is based on my research into Santana's lifestyle and the details of his heart attack scare, based on his own words.

Here's a direct quote from Santana from January 2022 regarding his unscheduled heart surgery-

“When they drew blood to see what was happening, sure enough, we caught it just in time. I think it was 94 percent blockage in one artery. We corrected it, and the other one was 35 percent blocked, another one was 5 percent. Those can be corrected, and will be corrected, with medicine. But the one, they had to go in there with like a cord to keep making things flow. A stent is what it was.”

https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/entertainment-columns/kats/carlos-santana-living-blessings-and-miracles-after-heart-scare-2518803/

Normally, reading that a 74 year old man had a 94% blocked artery would not be surprising.

However, it is surprising in this case because Santana is vegan, and even has his own line of vegan shoes-

https://poshmark.com/listing/Carlos-Santana-black-vegan-open-toe-3-12-booties-size-9-12-great-Condition-62c1091d86dcbb6633d5c0bf

Dr Kim Williams: exposes the true cause of Heart Disease

This video details the benefits of a vegan lifestyle for reducing heart attack risks for those who are not suffering from adult congenital heart disease.

Dr. Williams is a cardiologist with a genetic defect that caused his cholesterol to go out of control. He was already eating what he considered a healthy diet (chicken, fish, fruits, vegetables, and low grains) when he discovered he had a very high LDL cholesterol level at a conference where a vendor was introducing a new cholesterol test. Williams determined the result were accurate and wanted to do everything in his power to avoid taking statin drugs. He made the switch to a vegan diet in the end, which brought his LDL cholesterol levels from 170 down to 90.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1oB569xq88

Not trying to turn this into a discussion about diet, other than to point out vegans generally do have lower cholesterol levels and a lower incidence of heart disease.

Make of the above what you will, but it's what prompted me to create the above graphic and put together this post.

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– MAG768720 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

This video details the benefits of a vegan lifestyle for reducing heart attack risks for those who are not suffering from adult congenital heart disease.

Problem is, that narrative is not true.

There has NEVER been any evidence that saturated fat causes heart disease. It was a lie made up by Ancel Keys in the 1950's.

Vegans are wrong.

vegans generally do have lower cholesterol levels and a lower incidence of heart disease.

The actual facts show that low cholesterol levels are associated with HIGHER levels of heart disease. Just the opposite of what is pushed as the narrative by the Big Medicine/Big Pharma industry.

A lecture on the real research over the years, and how Big Pharma lies. This knowledge is what led me to look for the Pfizer lies about the effectiveness of their vaccines in 2020/2021. Sure enough, they pulled the exact same scam: relative risk instead of absolute risk to lie about reseach results:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vr-c8GeT34

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– mac1221 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

You are absolutely correct. Dietary cholesterol was a boogey man created by the Sugar Association and Big Pharma. Fasting insulin levels due to simple carb consumption, especially all of the modern processed forms of sugars, are one of the best indicators of inflammatory processes in the body - plus other metabolic parameters that are rarely tested for outside of alternative medicine like homocysteine, fibrinogen, C-reactive protein, and lipid particle size. What is being tested for on a normal blood lipid panel is like a blind man trying to access what an elephant looks like just by holding on to its tail. Less than 20 percent of cholesterol can be linked to dietary sources. The lion's share is made in the liver - some in response to inflammation. The introduction of HFCS really drove the process since the fructose in metabolized in the liver using the same pathways as alcohol. This is why there has been a steady increase in non alcoholic fatty liver disease. It also goes hand in hand with the epidemic of DM2.

Statin drugs were developed for those people you mentioned that genetically have cholesterol levels that are in the stratosphere. But that doesn't make money so they lied once again to create a market - Hegelian Dialect. Magically what is considered "normal" levels have been moving down for years. The same is true with other parameters - they are all based on averages that can change over time. So what should a healthy level be? Do we even know anymore.

The latest push of the Rockefeller's Reset the Table initiative, also linked to the WHO and the UN, is moving everyone towards an entirely plant based diet - and zee bugs. I recently had to earn some CEUs for state licensing and took a nutrition class. I could not believe the changes that have taken place within the nutrition field in just a few years. Put this all together and it is obvious where certain forces are trying to take us. There is a reason why they are going after particular food sources - and it is not due to cow farts. I have known for a long time that most of the garbage coming out of the so called professional journals that try to pass for legitimate peer reviewed science is bought and paid for by those with an interest in predetermined results. How do I know? I worked in research for over 10 years and saw exactly how the game was played. The money drives the so called science.

The patients that I saw in my practice that were Vegans eventually had it crash and burn in some manner. Mostly immune system and musculoskeletal problems. The Vegans that ran, especially marathon and triathletes, to me seemed to be prone to lower extremity fractures that were shattering in nature - all requiring surgery and ending their athletic careers. After several years it seemed to be a pattern. They also appeared to be more prone to spinal fractures as well. The whole thing appeared to start hitting the wall in the mid to late forties if they had been a Vegan since in their twenties. Some of the women had the skeletal structure of an eighty year old. They had no muscle mass, could not retain body heat, and were sick all the time. I know this is purely anecdotal from my end, but this is what I saw walking into my office. The protein and antioxidant needs of the body were not being met enough to compensate for the activity level. Despite my warnings, they would politely tell me I was full of crap and go on about their business. At some point they came back in with stress fractures and some with severe breaks - and that is on top of the rest of the chronic illness they developed. Like the vaxxine faithful, even then they could not admit it was in fact their so called healthy lifestyle that was actually slowly killing them. Vegetarianism is a cult and not a diet.

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– MAG768720 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The introduction of HFCS really drove the process since the fructose in metabolized in the liver using the same pathways as alcohol. This is why there has been a steady increase in non alcoholic fatty liver disease.

Makes a ton of sense. HFCS is REALLY bad stuff. Government subsidized, of course ...

Magically what is considered "normal" levels have been moving down for years.

The video I linked explores this issue. There is a "cholesterol board" that determines at what levels statins should be prescribed. That number has been going lower and lower over the years, thereby increasing the number of people taking statins.

Turns out, the individuals on that board have financial conflicts of interest. They make more money when these drugs are prescribed. They get paid directly from the drug companies, and that does not even count the possibility that they might also buy up some key stocks just before their next "guideline" announcement.

I have known for a long time that most of the garbage coming out of the so called professional journals that try to pass for legitimate peer reviewed science is bought and paid for by those with an interest in predetermined results. How do I know? I worked in research for over 10 years and saw exactly how the game was played.

Editors of Lancet and JAMA have both said that over 50% of research published in their journals are not valid science.

The patients that I saw in my practice that were Vegans eventually had it crash and burn in some manner.

Although this is an extreme example, it is interesting at the rapid rate of declining health. This guy tried to do an experiment where he would only eat broccoli for one week. The results were both comical and frightening. It's not so shocking at the declining health, but the RATE of declining health is mindboggling:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbTqsiysiOs

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– mac1221 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The Lancet and JAMA claiming only 50% - they are being far too generous.

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– MAG768720 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

KEK

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– mac1221 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Nothing like a little help from your friends. LOL! Thanks.

I think a couple of things were going on here. All that fiber threw his digestive tract into shock and quickly altered his gut flora - a hot toxic mess. In addition, huge amounts of cruciferous vegetables can block thyroid function - that could explain some of the fatigue both physical and mental. No protein intake for an otherwise healthy young guy - not good. Yes, the decline was pretty rapid. If he had not decided to do the exercising, things may have been different. Was there any way of knowing whether the activity level was normal for him or just done for the challenge? That would have drastically altered the outcome if it was not part of his normal daily routine. Interesting. Supersize Me only in reverse - and much faster.

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– ThePowerOfPrayer [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Here's real data which shows vegans are 20% more likely to die of a stroke and 18% less likely to die of a heart attack.

Risks of ischaemic heart disease and stroke in meat eaters, fish eaters, and vegetarians over 18 years of follow-up: results from the prospective EPIC-Oxford study

https://www.bmj.com/content/366/bmj.l4897

Obese people are more likely to have blocked arteries than those of normal weight as well.

Carlos Santana is a vegan and not obese, and a 94% blockage is a rare occurrence for somebody in that demographic. That's my only claim.

Can you point to where I claimed a diet high in saturated fat should be avoided?

I don't disagree with the video you posted, by the way. Losing weight is the most important thing one can do to reduce the risk of heart disease and a whole host of other complications. The key to that is eliminating sugar and processed foods as much as possible. Whether that involves eating more meat and going keto, or is accomplished by intermittent fasting, or by going vegetarian/vegan matters little as long as the weight is lost.

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– MAG768720 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

That's an epidemiological study. Such studies prove nothing. They can be used as a starting point for a real study, but by themselves prove nothing.

These people were given a questionnaire about their diet, and then 10-20 years later given a 2nd questionnaire.

... recruited across the UK between 1993 and 2001 ... recruited 7421 men and women aged 35 to 59 who were registered with participating general practices, all of whom completed a full questionnaire on their diet, lifestyle, health characteristics, and medical history.

Subsequently, a follow-up questionnaire was sent to participants in 2010, which asked similar questions on their diet and lifestyle, and participants returned the questionnaires between 2010 and 2013.

Can you tell me how many servings of XYZ you ate over the past 10-20 years?

Nah, didn't think so.

Means nothing.

Can you point to where I claimed a diet high in saturated fat should be avoided?

No, you didn't. But vegans do. Always.

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– crywatcher 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

Love his music, hope he makes it through.

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– deleted 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0
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– MW_Freedom 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Nothing wrong with that. I could be wrong but I think there is a fair amount of occult symbolism on his album covers. For lots of folks (me included) it's hard to not stop what you're doing and head bob a little if "Smooth" comes on the radio (or whatever source the kids listen to these days).

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– crywatcher 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

That's ok people think I am nuts because I dont like Steve Miller Band. I guess if we all liked the same thing we only need one band.

Remember the old internet frenzy over whether you hear laurel or yanny? Obviously we dont all hear the same. Just for fun

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JvKKd32Yw2E

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– crywatcher 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

of any kind? or just internet frenzys?

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– Enlightenment_Now 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Black magic woman?

https://youtu.be/9wT1s96JIb0

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– january20 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Agreed. I saw him in Boston many moons ago. Great concert.

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– CasuallyObservant 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

"Central Park Concert for the Vaccinated"....What??

Shall we have a concert for the Unvaccinated or the non-smokers?

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– normalstreet 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

They love to sniff their own farts, don't they?

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– inspir3dgenius 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Only through the pores of a blue diaper

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– ChronicMetamorphosis [M] 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0 stickied

Video: https://youtu.be/eoz3YxS11S4

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– dachshundguy 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0
  1. They don’t budge when it’s somebody young like Bieber. This won’t phase the sheep either. They’re still lining up to get their babies the clot shot
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– LongTimeListener 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

They are not lining up to get the death serum for their babies. The 4 to 6% may be but the 94 to 96% are not.

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– Captainzoomer 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Then my entire family is in the 4 to 6. Socks to be me.

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– BoatingAccident 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

u/LongTimeListener has never been to Illinois. The suburban moms there are practically tripping over one another to get that clot shot into their kids.

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– LongTimeListener 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I lived in Naperville for 5 years.

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– BoatingAccident 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Naperville is their home base.

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– CasuallyObservant 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

From the article:

Santana, who has partnered with the Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services (DHSS) as part of a campaign to get KC families vaccinated against the COVID-19 coronavirus, spoke to The Star as part of the vaccination campaign.

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/mlb/kansas-city-royals/article256957902.

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– Jacurutu99 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Have to wonder if Santana will rethink his position on doing everything he can to "help people get vaccinated?"

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– CasuallyObservant 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

As most of these vax victims refuse to acknowledge the cause of their troubles, I doubt if he can even admit to himself that he made a mistake...

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– ThePowerOfPrayer [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Wrong Santana, fren.

Even in lockout, Carlos Santana eyes bounce-back second season with Kansas City Royals

Fixed your link as well -

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/mlb/kansas-city-royals/article256957902.html

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– Cookitup 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

They’ve pulled the article

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– Daxx 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

That wouldn't be it ..... KC has a player also called Carlos Santana :)

https://archive.today/92VUY

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– ThePowerOfPrayer [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Not sure why you had zero and zero karma. Must have downvoted yourself.

But you're exactly right. That article refers to a player on their active roster.

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– Daxx 0 points 3 years ago +0 / -0

As soon as I've posted, the board shows a red up-arrow and +1 karma as if I upvoted myself, which I would never do, so I reset it back to +0 by (un)clicking up.

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– Taffy333 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The system gives everyone a +1 karma for making a post.

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– CQVFEFE 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Oye Carlos

¿Como va?

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– Totsugeki 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

When a celebrity collapses from "exhaustion" or "dehydration," it's usually a euphemism for "drug overdose" or "drank too much."

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– Factfiler 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Dehydration was the excuse when they shoved Hilary into the van like a side of beef on the 911 anniversary.

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– AngelCole 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Let me guess he tested positive for the coof and is grateful for being ultra jabbed as it could have been way worse.🙄

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– real_russian_bot 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

pine knob, pineal gland. surely to be coincidence.

symbolism will be their downfall

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– real_russian_bot 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

btw, the band popularity started in 1969, with numbers "soul sacrifice" and "evil ways".

Saint Anne is known to be protector from storms.

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– dty6 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

great catch

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– elvie 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

i agree, great catch

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– imahindend 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

He admitted he performed some sort of ritual to get lyrics for his music.

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– tenthousandspoons 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Black Magic.

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– electricbroth1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

"Symbolism will be their downfall"

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– Stice 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I had forgotten that before Covid it was unheard of for a 74 year old man to collapse.

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– ThePowerOfPrayer [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

There's a reason I listed his age in the title.

We do know Santana was a vaccine advocate and has been facing "unexpected'" heart issues since his second shot.

First article details his "unscheduled heart procedure." -

https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/entertainment-columns/kats/heart-scare-prompts-carlos-santana-to-cancel-dates-on-strip-2488856/

Second article states details from Santana himself. He had a stint put in after the doctors discovered a 94% blocked artery. -

https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/entertainment-columns/kats/carlos-santana-living-blessings-and-miracles-after-heart-scare-2518803/

But you're right. 74 year olds did collapse pre-Covid, but the media didn't go out of their way to blame collapses on anything but the jab then, either.

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– SassyLass 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I agree - too many are immediately suggesting the clot shot is responsible for all other forms of disease that can afflict someone, especially of an older age group and even more especially a person who works in entertainment. Kids on the other hand, I would immediately suspect the clot shot.

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– ThePowerOfPrayer [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I listed Santana's age in the title because we are the news now. We need to present all of the evidence and let people come to their own conclusions.

I've come to my own conclusion, which is based on my research into Santana's lifestyle and the details of his heart attack scare, based on his own words.

Here's a direct quote from Santana from January 2022 regarding his unscheduled heart surgery-

“When they drew blood to see what was happening, sure enough, we caught it just in time. I think it was 94 percent blockage in one artery. We corrected it, and the other one was 35 percent blocked, another one was 5 percent. Those can be corrected, and will be corrected, with medicine. But the one, they had to go in there with like a cord to keep making things flow. A stent is what it was.”

https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/entertainment-columns/kats/carlos-santana-living-blessings-and-miracles-after-heart-scare-2518803/

Normally, reading that a 74 year old man had a 94% blocked artery would not be surprising.

However, it is surprising in this case because Santana is vegan, and even has his own line of vegan shoes-

https://poshmark.com/listing/Carlos-Santana-black-vegan-open-toe-3-12-booties-size-9-12-great-Condition-62c1091d86dcbb6633d5c0bf

Dr Kim Williams: exposes the true cause of Heart Disease

This video details the benefits of a vegan lifestyle for reducing heart attack risks for those who are not suffering from adult congenital heart disease.

Dr. Williams is a cardiologist with a genetic defect that caused his cholesterol to go out of control. He was already eating what he considered a healthy diet (chicken, fish, fruits, vegetables, and low grains) when he discovered he had a very high LDL cholesterol level at a conference where a vendor was introducing a new cholesterol test. Williams determined the result were accurate and wanted to do everything in his power to avoid taking statin drugs. He made the switch to a vegan diet in the end, which brought his LDL cholesterol levels from 170 down to 90.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1oB569xq88

Not trying to turn this into a discussion about diet, other than to point out vegans generally do have lower cholesterol levels and a lower incidence of heart disease.

Make of the above what you will, but it's what prompted me to create the above graphic and put together this post.

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– Stice 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I had no idea that owning vegan shoes prevents 74 year olds from heart disease. Learn something new every day.

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– ThePowerOfPrayer [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

A vegan diet does help prevent 94% blocked arteries.

Obvious shill is obvious.

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– WakeUpWorld 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

They will just blame it on his age and climate change

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– pepperonishoes 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Loved the music but he is a dumb ass. Photographed in his che guevara shirt.

Not realizing (I assume) the communists hated musicians and killed a good portion of them. Of course he could have been their court jester.

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– CQVFEFE 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

LOL that lineup

LLCool J, Elvis Costello, Andrea Bocelli, Santana, the NY Philharmonic and Springsteen

Santana's good, but...need several barf bags on hand for everyone in attendance :p

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– Mockfury 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

All of this back and forth about the clot shots vs the 74 year old vs him being vegan vs the heat of the day…

This is why we need data from neutral third parties. This is why we need an independent media. Unless a huge percentage of the vaccinated die, we will never know without neutral data.

Like the birth data rolling out - a 20% drop in births. What is the drop in the vaxxed vs the unvaxxed? That would immediately answer what is happening.

I think people have this data. How could they not? And it is not being released because it is bad.

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– Blonde77 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

To be fair, it really was humid and got here in the Detroit area yesterday. I could see it all hitting especially with the ganja and heat from th stage lights. Not discounting the vax theory at all, I can just see where this may be plausible to heat exhaustion.

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– Wildflower11 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Pine Knob is an outdoor theatre and the humidity was really high yesterday - muggy and hot. I can’t imagine being under all those lights helped any either.

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– americanjerky 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Throw a clot shot into the kid and you have a recipe for disaster

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– Bedminster 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Dehydrated or having a cardiac episode of some sort? Going to go with this is vax related and not a dehydration issue.

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– SallyJ444 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Honestly, I hope they all collapse and die, the earth will be a better place for it.

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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Not saying it wasn't the vaxx, but there are some musicians that live the rock and roll lifestyle, destroying their body in the process. Lemmy had a pacemaker due to that lifestyle and lived longer than he should have.

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– ImaSueDeNym 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I think people need to calm down a bit, blaming every death or health problem on the covid vaccine.

People are acting like no one ever got sick or died before the vaccine and every.single. health issue anyone ever experiences from now on must be because of the vaccine. It's getting ridiculous.

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– ThePowerOfPrayer [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

People absolutely need to question whether celebrities who promoted the vaccine are exhibiting documented side effects, especially in light of the fact Pfizer, Moderna, and the FDA planned on concealing much of their research findings from the public until 2097.

They also need to be open to the possibility deaths and health problems have nothing to do with the vaccine, which is the very reason I listed Santana's age in the post title in the first place.

With that being said, it's super rare for vegans to have 94% blocked arteries because of the nature of their diets.

Risks of ischaemic heart disease and stroke in meat eaters, fish eaters, and vegetarians over 18 years of follow-up: results from the prospective EPIC-Oxford study

Vegans are much more likely to die from strokes than from heart attacks.

https://www.bmj.com/content/366/bmj.l4897

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– ImaSueDeNym 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I have no problem with questioning things. But for the most part, people aren't questioning anything, they're just jumping straight to "Vaccine did it!!!".

I'm not trying to call you out, personally. You're actually trying to be objective. It's just that it shows how ludicrous some people are, reading responses that show people thinking an old geezer having health problems couldn't happen without him having a covid vaccine.

Every day, there are multiple conversations going about how a kid got sick, or an old person got sick, and it’s simply a knee jerk reaction to "Vaccine did it!".

It's just as retarded as when at the beginning of the pandemic, every runny nose or sneeze was "I've got covid!!!@"

It's like the ability to be objective over hot button topics is just impossible now, by the majority on both sides.

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– Enlightenment_Now 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

This is disturbing.

I saw Santana in concert a few years ago.

I'm not the biggest fan of his music (went with friends who are) but I really liked how humble he seemed onstage and how he readily showcased the other performers.

He didn't mind sharing the limelight.

I also bought a pair of shoes from his line.

Awful.

BTW, I detest Springsteen.

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– VonErich 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

dehydrated - he is fine.

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