I believe the real reason people have their newborns sons circumcised is because a group of people need access to foreskin? I really don't understand why this procedure is common place.
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I’m circumcised. You’re brainwashed into thinking your mutilation was a good thing. Peak foolishness. Edit: Circumcised men who are brainwashing into loving their mutilators downvote this post.
They should probably just let the umbilical cord stay attached from mom to child until it falls off on it’s own then right? I mean cutting it… that’s mutilation in your opinion
Straw man argument.
The umbilical cord is attached to the placenta which is the blood supply for the baby. Once the baby is born the lungs begin to function and the baby can oxygenate it's own blood. The placenta then just becomes dead tissue which would cause infection if left attached. Not even close to the same thing.
I have heard that it is beneficial not to cut the cord immediately, but I don't think there's any benefit to it staying on until naturally falling off
They should at least allow for ALL of the blood to move from the placenta to the child, then cut it.....
But what you're saying is sheer stupidity, and yes, it is stupid comments like that one you made that give people a reason to shun you're stupid ass....
Yes they should wait to cut the cord so the baby gets all those stem cells, but they don't. Instead, they collect the umbilical cord blood so they can sell that, too
Yup, and I'll bet they've been doing that for about a full Century, maybe a little longer....
Some people do. It's called a lotus birth but can lead to infection if not closely monitored.
Disagree. And some women need to cut some of that shit away too.
I've gone back and forth for a long while as to whether it's a good thing or not and I'm still very much in that gray area, I think I'm at a point where I'm leaning towards its bad but just needing a little more knowledge to push me into it being in the bad category.
They take a defenceless child and stick a knife into its dick as it screams. It’s a violation of the child’s rights. Any violation of rights is immoral. The possible benefits do not even enter into the consideration.
Well no. My son just had his and they gave him a shot there so he didn’t feel anything. Never even cried. Now he’s mutilated like his dad and big brother so he doesn’t feel weird. I considered being the one to break the cycle of this weird practice but I caved. I really don’t care. You seem to care a lot though. Too much probably. Your energy sucks.
Sorry for caring that an asshole culture of your kind mutilated me.
I bet you’re great at parties.
Trillions of humans were born imperfect? Makes perfect sense..... rolls eyes
It’s not that people were born imperfectly. The origin of circumcision is God’s covenant with Abraham. God promised Abraham the land of Canaan for him and his descendants, and the sign of being a part of this covenant is circumcision. It’s speculated that circumcision has hygienic benefits, and this may be partially true, but that’s not why God required it of His people. At any rate, circumcision is not required of anyone who isn’t a Jew.
Pretty sure it’s just a covert method of marking someone as a slave to the “Chosen People”.
His beef is uncut.
Kek
Same boat, but re:hygiene
Circumcized vs non circumcized being more or less hygienic is a bit of a misrepresentation. But being truly hygienic with an uncircumcized wang is a bit more involved and requires slightly more attention, which leads to kids and teens (and yes, a good number of adults) not putting in the 5 seconds of extra time to clean themselves. A lot don't even understand that they need to clean diligently.
So, care ends up being slightly easier. Personally I am not unhappy having been circumcized. But in fact, everyone should make sure to clean their wang diligently.
Hell, sometimes I have a hard time washing my hands after I use the potty. You’re telling me I have to constantly pull back on some skin after I make the bladder gladder? Sometimes I have a hard time reaching and seeing my member when i let the hair grow out. I’m also currently on a perma bulk so my gut is in the way and I can’t see my junk when I look down. I’m glad I’m cut, it’s one less thing for me to worry about.
I never had my baby boys circumcised just because it seemed like a barbaric thing to inflict pain on an infant. Hope it was the right choice for them.
Totally different skin removal. A pain you will remember?
you are a good parent.
Ditto.
Nothing like an unsolicited mutilation to welcome you.
I’m glad my parents got mine done.
I’ve noticed most people that have a huge problem with it aren’t circumcised. It’s really not something that many circumcised guys even think about until someone brings it up.
True that. I like mine well enough the way it is.
I'd probably like mine well enough the way it was if it were the other way too.
It's not just Jewish culture that does it though.
Brings what up?
Kek! 🍆 🍆 🍆
He rises to the occasion by erecting a solid argument
No need to put so fine a point on it lol
you had bad parents.
Not even close 😂 I would have ended up doing it myself anyways so they saved me the trouble.
No you wouldnt have. But you justify it how ever you want. There is no good reason to have it done, only negatives.
You’re way too intense about this. You know they numb it first, right? All this trauma you speak of…my kids sure could have fooled me. No pain, healed in 3-4 days, no additional crying.
Why not stop there, The pinkey toe does nothing and can get rubbed in shoes, why not chop that off. Ear lobes whats up with that, it can get frostbite in the winter, chop that off also.
You are a bad parent who takes joy in mutilating your childs genitals . Regardless of the mental gymnastics you can do in your head you are mutilating your childs sexual organs.
So you’re not planning to “torture” any of your kids my mutilating their God given teeth with satanic braces either, right?
I’m sorry to say it sweetheart but you lack perspective. Good luck making that first friend.
basically you are a cunt that hurt your child.
😆 how can you tell me what I would have done? I’d rather my dick not look like a dogs dick Thankyou,
Below are some reasons I remember reading about:
In the uncircumcised, the foreskin must be retracted and cleaned all the time. Back in the day, a lot of little and big boys wouldn't do it often enough - or properly - leading to crusty infections and smelly members.
Also, sometimes when entering puberty, the foreskin wouldn't retract fully when the person had an erection, causing pain and twisting.
And according to some, an uncircumcised penis is much more sensitive and would have a much shorter 'release' time, leaving the females unsatisfied with the quickness of the delivery.
Years ago, I knew only one fellow who was uncircumcised as a baby (everyone else was, as was their brothers and fathers before them) and hated his uncircumcised look so much that when he was in his early 20's and could afford it himself, went in and got it done. He said the ladies had reacted negatively to his intact look and that it was so sensitive that he had no endurance before release, so that was a problem, also.
He said once he had the surgery, he was much happier and had neither of those problems post-surgery.
TL;DR
Foreskin hunters do it because of they are dirty and have premature ejaculation.
Got it.
The foreskin is not retractable until puberty. The body is made whole by God. the hygiene issue is like cutting the tongue out to deal with bad breath.
I can't disagree. Just trying to answer the person's question as to why it was being done and what my husband and I read about 30+ years ago before we had children. Husband was circumcised and Catholic, insisted son be, too. Said son would wonder why he didn't look like Dad or the other boys, if not.
Son seems to be just fine and glad for it. (My experience only...)
Not an argument for or against, your comment made me think of an old Friend of mine who was uncircumsized through most of college.
He was not originally from the u.s., and he said American girls were almost always turned off by being uncut which diminished his confidence quite a bit (but when he would take trips back to Europe, girls weren't turned off by it). Ended up getting it removed, said it was way worth it but did have a noticeable decline in sensation. He said it was a double edged sword, on one edge "he could fuck like a porn star" (he said he didn't understand how guys in porn could last so long until post-cut) and was no longer a 'two pump chump' but on the other loss of sensation range took some adjustment.
He said on trips back to Europe that none of the girls minded or cared that he was circumcised like how American girls thought being uncircumcised was a turn off.
One comment that he made was that also stuck with me was that the "environmental conditions" down there were much cleaner, where as before moisture buildup, smell, buildup (he was a very active athlete) etc... not that this guy was unclean or not hygienic as he was, but still different.
The ironic thing as far as I can tell is that had he never moved to the u.s. he most likely would never have gotten circumcised since girls over saw that as the norm but being in America with it not being the norm, just eroded his confidence enough to get it done.
American girls ruin yet another man's life
If you can't remember your password, what's the chances you will remember to wash your member?
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It was purposely done to diminish feeling and prevent masturbation. Then they figured out how to make money off the foreskin. Foreskins are sold by hospitals.
If you still think it is necessary for hygiene or any medical reason, think again about everything else they've been lying about, then research it with fresh eyes.
Definitely has not diminished or stop me from fapping
Remind me not to borrow your phone.
There is way more grossness on a phone than that, I try to avoid borrowing any phone if I can't wash my hands shortly after.
it is barbaric and child abuse.
Are braces? When you bought that soapbox you’re preaching from, how much of the soap did you eat?
adjusting teeth is not the same as semi-pedo mutilating the genitals of a baby.
I believe it is a hygienic practice, and I have heard stories about men having to do it later in life. My spouse bailed on me when I was 6 months pregnant, I could not count on having a reliable man around to help me raise him and teach him about how to take care of himself down there, and I did not think it would be healthy to have his mom running after him to make sure he was doing it right (future therapy bills avoided.) He's fine with it, as an adult, I asked him if he had any contention with it. He does not and thinks it silly to make a big deal about it.
It's because certain people who control the media and academy have pushed it on everyone for years. Coincidentally, those certain people tend to hold that ritual in high esteem.
My cut cock looks like a snake biting an apple. I wouldnt want an elephant snout :(
Mine looks more like a caterpillar biting a cranberry unfortunately
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Nothing unhygienic about not circumcising. I recall the hospital assuming you’d have it done if you had a boy and I looked at the nurse like she was mad, which is when she realized her assumption was wrong. My grandmother wasn’t even asked, it was done as a matter of course (you know, back when women were often tied down during twilight labor). Bottom line, after doing my research I consider it male genital mutilation.
It's yet another example, amongst millions, where man thinks he knows better than God/Nature/Biology.
Yet God commanded circumcision…
Of the Jews, to differentiate them from the other people of the time
Yes but God still commanded it, must have had a good reason, or reasons. You think God would chose to mutilate his chosen people? There’s much simpler ways to separate yourselves.
Y would he make something only to carve it right up?
We are made in his image does God have a foreskin?
Idk 🤷♂️ it's all so weird
It’s a good question
The word "circumcision", along with hundreds if not thousands of others in the bible was REDEFINED long ago according to the powers that be's efforts to deceive.
Almost every "Christian" word you can think of has befallen the same fate. But convincing most every Christian of this fact is an impossible task so I almost never bother trying unless I run across one that realizes this is so, which is rare.
So Gods word doesn’t exist today then?
I'm not even sure what you're saying? Doesn't exist today? huh?
If all the meaning has been changed, then the true word of God doesn’t exist any more.
Well of course it does. You just have to learn what it is, like I did! The cabal has infiltrated, twisted and distorted everything that is "popular". There are no exceptions.
Everything that is popular is untrue. Everything that is true is not popular.
Trying to follow this seriously… is there any where I can find what is now true and what is not in the Bible based on this “popularity” theory!
In the U.S. it's the AMA who has pushed for circumcision since always. They have managed to brainwash everyone into thinking that it's necessary for cleanliness. Like it's harder to wash then behind your ears.
Don't know why ((they)) want us to exercise their covet with their God.
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It is billiable procedure. They will then sew the skins together and then sell it as a wallet that can turn into a suitcase.
For big pharma’s profit as usual. Absolutely zero medical reason to torture babies like this
Because people are being told that circumcision is way better for the child and it is. It keeps them from getting horrible infections. Plus it looks a whole lot better lol. Just and FYI you could not even be in Gods chosen if you are not circumcised. If you read the bible they tell you many times how important circumcision is.
Ever read any of Apostle Paul's work on the subject?
It is Biblical. Simple answer. If you don't agree with it, then don't have it done. Whining like democrats about what other people do or don't do that you don't believe or agree with is what everyone here stands against. All the bullshit psych theories of trauma and addiction is ridiculous nonsense. Psych and statistics are commonly misused to backup some bullshit agenda. All the reasons for or against are ultimately specious, it simply boils down to the parents choice.
I am definitely surprised with the comments here. Thank you for voice of reason.
It's biblical for the JEWS. read the new testament and it doesn't matter
If God said it was ok and not considered mutilation for the Jews, do we really think he would be upset now if his children thought it was helpful? We got the idea from Him. We are loved regrdless. I get that we dont need to anymore but the intensity people are bringing to this is interesting to me.
Kellogg, same fellow who made breakfast cereal, did much of what he did to keep people "chaste" because it reduced sexual pleasure (though it arguably doesn't according to studies https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23937309/).
Kellogg is a Scottish name. He was a white 7th day adventist.
Circumcision is common in the US (over 71% of males) and it's been that way for well over a century.
I'd say the bulk majority of those who push the issue here on GAW imply evil Jews are out there brow-beating white men into submission to get their children circumcised. They are unhinged history revisionists.
I don't see that mentioned enough
I think it's the difference between pleasure and sensation. If a circumcised and an uncircumsized guy are both getting a BJ they're both gonna be at 100% pleasure, just one might have more sensation than the other
anyone hear the story about the Circumcision specialist who collected foreskins? He sewed them into wallets and sold them on the street. When he was asked why he would do such a thing, he explained the ingenious functionality....if you stroke the wallet, it becomes a suitcase!
I think you're lost. Try c/DadJokes
Ever read about the identical twin who they botched the circumcision on and made him a girl. A doctor at Johns Hopkins made him and his brother a transgender vs normal gender test case and the brother with the cooked hot dog ended up killing himself. Terrible story.
Sick fuck that he was
Not sure but I think the decision should be left to the kid when he grows up. I think at that point he would rather not anyways. Israelites did it for the covenant but we have a new covenant with Jesus as the lamb. The apostles say we should circumcise our hearts not our dicks.
They tried billing me for one of my sons' circumcision even though I didn't have it done.
It was fun hearing the doctor backpedal on the phone with me and insurance company trying to explain his $450 fraudulent charge.
its healthy for you and your wife
We are used to it and almost everyone does it, that's why. That doesn't make it a good idea.
It got adopted because ppl believed it was a hygiene/mental health practice (yes back in the day they thought it improved mental health)
🐑... that's why.
I was told it was for sanitation. Some men have a lot of trouble with infections.
By my dearly departed Mother.
According to the Mayo Clinic: Decreased risk of penile cancer. Although cancer of the penis is rare, it's less common in circumcised men. In addition, cervical cancer is less common in the female sexual partners of circumcised men.
We had our sons done (30 yrs ago) I have no idea why other than my husbands was too. My poor baby.
They sell them to gays for chewing gum.
It’s because a lot of parents are lazy and don’t want to pull the foreskin back to clean it.
Stupidity and being lefties.
Redundant? Please excuse.
People are mosty sheep. They do whatever everyone else does. I was circumcised. But my son is fully intact
Short answer: They think they are smarter than they are, they like inflicting pain on their defenseless children, or both. FYI, The Father did not give us body parts that do not have a function.
I used to have a jewish friend that told me the reason jews circumcise their young is because they are the nastiest assholes on the planet. He wasn't joking.