Your Alt-Reality Is Boring......A plea for more interesting alt-realities than the Moon Landing Hoax, Flat Earth, and No Virus.
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Imagine after knowing about all of the lies, false flags, and theatrics still believing that the moon landing was real.
One of the last things I saw posted by Wikileaks was a series of videos that seem to be 'the set of the moon landing' consistent with the hills in the background of the live video.. I haven't done a ton of research on it - but the videos seemed pretty damming to me.
I want to believe so bad that we went to the moon.. but I also want to believe so bad that 9/11 wasn't an inside job.. The evidence seems to go definitively against the narrative.
One factor that most wouldn't consider is that the atmospheric pressure they would need to keep the space suits survivable is balanced by the pressure on the exterior (aka at ground level would be roughly zero pressure), but when you take that into a vacuum it becomes a pretty extreme pressure vessel, and that moon lander looked like it was wrapped in aluminum foil.
Anything Langley touches is contaminated, including 'Never A Straight Answer'
NVM that you can take the "earthrise on the moon" photo adjust the levels and the photoshopping (manual equivalent) sticks out like a thumb (we know where they allegedly landed and we only ever see the same face of the moon, therefore the earth would always be near perpendicular from the surface from that location).
Which itself doesn't mean that the whole moon landing was fake, I had believed that they faked images to conceal the actual technologies involved for a long while.
Edit: Lots of downvotes on this, but ignores the fact that the earth always sees the same face of the moon, meaning there is NO EARTH RISING on the moon, the earth would be stationary from the moon perspective and relative to the position on the moon where people landed. Can any of the downvoters explain why they expect a surface that always faces towards the earth would see the earth moving in the sky? Not that the moon wouldn't have a day/night cycle, but that the earth should be anything but stationary from that perspective?
If the earth is sonhuge next to the moon why is it always tiny in the pics? Standing on the moon the earth should dwarf the viewer.
I believe this would be correct, if the moon is some 200k miles away and the earth is some x larger than the earth, then yes. it should be larger from the moon perspective too.
It takes about five seconds of research to find out that the famous Earthrise photo was taken while in orbit around the moon, and not from the surface.
That's a different photo. The blackness in that photo is because they turned the lights off in the ship, not space.
A different photo than what? I'm just pointing out that when Apollo 8 took a photo of the Earth rising up past the Moons horizon, it did so while orbiting the moon. Apollo 8 did not land on the part of the Moon where the Earth would be overhead, because it never landed on the Moon.
Which is the photo you are talking about with the impossible earthrise?
I'll put it this way, there are no photos that aren't composites or misrepresentation that can be spotted with forensic analysis of the images.
That also applies for ALL versions of the "blue marble" images, NASA admits they are composites (which is obvious when you compare the different versions of them and see they are not even consistent on land mass sizes.)
Can you show me this photo that you are talking about that shows the Earth in an impossible location shot from the surface of the moon or not?
Same answer. Tje earth didn't get smaller because they werent on the surface.
We are in a construct....a simulation...
You're forgetting that the earth is spinning on its axis as well as rotating around the sun.
GIF
No, it's accepting that, the model presented in that GIF SHOULD have the moon rotating around the earth on the same axis as the north-south geologic pole. That pole is 23.4° North (66.6 degrees from the equator).
The important point is that we ALWAYS, for the entire recorded history, has the moon pointing a constant face towards the earth. 1 rotation of the moon = 1 rotation of the moon around the earth. (Unless you get into some more obscure references that claim the moon was placed in its position and prior to that the earth did not have a moon)
Not hard to imagine. If your echo chamber is censored like Facebook and Twitter and Huffington post then of course you will be hesitant to listen to "dangerous" QAnon posts but will jump right in line for another boostie. Everyone here has misinterpreted q posts at some point. How many were blackpilled by date fags until things started happening on deltas. The people that protest too loudly about other peoples beliefs are simply in a different echo chamber and are too lazy to figure out what they really know from first hand observations. At this point the lines are drawn, some take jabs and wear masks because their minds would crack if they were shown hard facts about the deception. There is no reason to argue with anybody that is closed to considering other ideas. I still know people to this day swear there were WMDs in Iraq, still think JFK was shot by a lone bolt action wizard, and still believe fire melted steel but left passports unscathed. It doesn't bother me you believe that a pandemic came from bat soup or Biden got 81m votes or that the world is stationary or spinning. I can't prove you wrong so go for it. Bring the receipts.
Yeah, like, why of all things is this “historical event” off-limits for questioning? It’s a whole heck of a lot more tame than the idea that the entirety of the cosmos functions entirely differently to what we see and are taught.
Because they would never lie to us. Lmao
lol, Elon is onboard...
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1608828315581976576?s=20&t=5vGU7NYud48mzd_VWTLjkA
The only person "lacking imagination" in this article is the author. He literally believes his brainwashing through and through and accepts his brainwashers explanations for the topics he criticizes. What a surprise!
The most devastating mistake made when attempting to discern truth is ->>> listening to "my side of the subject supporters" explain the opposing side's argument. It's like doubling-down on lies. The establishment lies on steroids.
The mistakes and errors in this article are so numerous it's laughable. Basically he's saying, "the establishment might be lying to us about a few things, but not these things...because.... the establishment SAYS SO!" That's some next-level critical thinking right there. The fruits of a public education that taught him WHAT to think instead of HOW to think!
But I digress, the other side of the argument is censored here on GA so blowing holes in this guys article is off limits....
Trying to explain to a conservative that NASA was founded by Nazis is like trying to explain to a liberal that Putin is fighting the Nazis in Ukraine. If people aren’t ready to accept something, they won’t look into it, and if you show them the evidence, they will reject it as lies and attack you with ad hominems. It’s like Stefan Molyneux, who distrusts every government agency on principle, except NASA. NASA is pure and free of any corruption in his eyes. You explain to him who Werner von Braun was and he hand-waves it away. “Those were the good Nazis!” Just like the Azov Battalion are now the “good” Nazis.
The challenge with the Great Awakening is that it only goes as far as each person is willing to go. And people base that on fairly arbitrary things. Look at Scott Adams for another example: he sees through plenty of lies, except the ones he either cannot see or refuses to see. And everyone who sees through those particular lies is baffled at how stupid he appears, but everyone is susceptible to this. Everyone has a line of truth they will not cross. I think Q’s message about not being divided is the best response to this. We should probably let people go to whatever their own red-pilling limit is and then not push it too much, but also not attack and slander people who have gone further than that. And if it makes a person feel better to believe that, say, Sandy Hook was real, then let’s not push them too much and let’s not insult them, but let’s also not insult the people who don’t believe it. Because really, as much as we all think we know things for sure, we probably don’t. And even when we think we see through things, we might just be falling for another layer of lies.
While I agree with your sentiment, perhaps you failed to read the article in which the author insults the "no virus people" and "flat earthers", time and time again. And not with any proofs or truths, but through the deceptive use of the strawman arguments, the only thing these people have left after having failed miserably for a decade to shut down legitimate truthers.
We were gentle and friendly with them for years. But now, they have turned into whiney babies without ever offering any proof of their claims and projecting this onto us. The gloves have to come off at some point. And now is the point. These guys should all be potty-trained by now if they want to continue spouting their brainwashing.
Remember, he started with the misplaced insults, not I. That was return fire, karma if you will.
It appears to me you have an unfavorable view of "the Nazis". I don't share your views. This is numero uno taboo topic almost everywhere. Sad that this is the case still in this day and age. The lies we've been told about WWII and Germany run deep, far and wide. The people telling those lies are the those that are in full charge today. The "Nazis" in Ukraine bear no resemblance to those in the 1930s/40s Germany. They are using this moniker as cover to maintain their lies which require CONSTANT REMINDERS to be upheld in the minds of the masses. The Nazis never were, nor are the sinister force in this world and what we've been told they allegedly did is almost all false.
Yeah, I’ve been red-pilled on the Nazis and the Holocaust too, both of which were fairly unpleasant truths to process, as most of us were indoctrinated into the cartoonish evil of it all as kids. At the same time, I’m not convinced Hitler was the good guy either, given his Rothschild bloodline. It seems to me he was controlled opposition, like nearly everyone working on the world stage level, and really, he ultimately did so much damage to the German People he claimed to fight for. I also think if the Nazis came to America and started NASA, then they are part of the system of globalist lies as much as anyone. Modern day neo-Nazis are also pretty stupid in my opinion, and like Owen Benjamin points out, the Neo-Nazis whine so much that, ironically, they have now become a mirror reflection of the Jews they despise. I also think with the OG Nazis, as polite and cultured as they might have been, and as much as they might have burned the tranny porn and taken on the central banks, they were still extremely authoritarian and, as with any group or movement, that level of power tends to corrupt. The way I see it, if it was a mistake to believe the Allies were 100% pure good in every way and the Axis were 100% evil in every way, then it’s equally a mistake to flip that around and believe the Axis were 100% good and the Allies were 100% evil.
Agreed across the board, great assessment, I concur. The mere act of "Taking power over others" leads to the dark path. It's inevitable as it goes against universal/God's law as this is not the way things are supposed to be. So there are no "good guys" at the top of the heap. But I'd put Hitler a distant #4 behind Stalin, Churchill and Roosevelt. Churchill, totally owned and controlled, forced Hitler's hand at every turn, not that Hitler was a squeaky clean "good guy" by any means. It just helps to know how things really went down....not at alll like the establishment history books assert.
The lamestream narrative is light-years away from the truth. That's the basic point. What the "allies" did to German civilians toward the end and after the war was utterly horrific and the worst atrocity of WWII, by a landslide IMHO. Those who ordered this destruction represent a whole different level of evil. Same group that runs the show today....that's the key takeaway most are not yet ready to digest.
One has to wonder why it is illegal to question a certain part of history in roughly 17 countries, or you face a maximum of 4 years in jail.
Among many other, suspicious things.
Indeed. Yet it seems nobody can grasp this simple fact. Not to mention, openly asking any question in just about any country will leave your reputation smeared and likely loss of any reputable line of work forevermore.
I believe Ye is proof positive of how this all works. Yet the sleepers still sleep and prefer the lies!
They will forever prefer the lies.
You will get everything, EVERYTHING canceled once you bring up a certain demographic of people and their history.
There’s a reason they have gotten kicked out of 108 nations over 1030 times. If someone got expelled from school many times, wouldn’t their parents be asking them what they have done to be expelled? Surely, they are not a martyr at that point.
It still baffles me how people don’t know the true definition of National Socialist.
Please excuse my terrible spacing, I am on the God Foresaken smart phone.
Your spacing is picture perfect my friend...not an error in sight!
Well I'm glad to know there are at least some of us that know this truth. It's clearly amongst the hardest rabbit holes to dive into. The possibility that there could be a lie "THIS BIG" is simply too much for the majority to entertain.
As the great quote, falsely attributed to Mark Twain, says: "It's easier to fool someone then to convince them they've been fooled."
And the correctly attributed Twain quote of equal strength: "It ain't what you know that gets you into trouble; it's what you know that just ain't so!". :)
Yup. No amount of information will persuade them to believe something that doesn't conform to their pre-held biases, and they will believe anything that confirms those same biases.
Personal example I experienced earlier today:
Had a clip of the White House's footage of some meeting Trump had after a mass shooting, where he was spit balling ideas and said, flat out, that he would support red flag laws. "First take the guns, then do due process".
And the person I was talking to absolutely refused to believe he said that when she saw the video herself. "Deep Fake", of course. Nevermind all the audio recording and other videos being shot showing the same thing. And dozens of other people who were there.
But she 100% believed that Tom Hanks had been arrested on April 1, 2020 because she read a tweet from some random Twitter account that said he was.
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...here is the link to the Unleashed edition this was posted in...
...this article is item#40
https://greatawakening.win/p/16ZqKqEyAD/unleashedthe-island-of-misfit-to/
All good, just wanted to add my .02 without getting censored and banned. I'm all for multiple perspectives when both can be addressed!
...I am the champion of free speech/thought on GAW...
...A.Dog...slayer of echo chambers....
Okay, here I come!!!
...the reason I posted this was to open the door for discussion...
...I posted this link in Unleashed...
...find it there and use the comment section....
...doggy winks...
CatsFive jumped all over your post and made his normal critical remarks against FlatEarthers so I presume he can and will ban any pro-FE comments as he has done with me in the past. No? Your threads are immune?
...that is why it is called "Unleashed"....
...haven't you seen the Antivirus League special edition?
....that actually got stickied....
...doggy winks...
CatsFive shadow banned both my responses to her above. What gives?
Too much time on their hands probably. I dont see the point in banning anyone except bots and obvious shills/trolls.
Many people believe in flat earth. Many people believe in alternative history. Many people believe space is more than we are told. Many believe these things because we know that we are being lied to on a colossal, cosmic scale. That alone leaves the door open for new research. In some areas of study and various disciplines this may mean starting from the beginning. Science has quietly become crippled by the inablity for repeatable results in past research. Countless theories and papers based on potentially incorrect information, which snowballs down the line into falsehoods.
I think we should seek to understand our brothers and sisters who are chasing the truth just as we are and try to understand WHY they believe in flat earth or hollow earth or crater earth.. etc. They arent all crazy loons and they certainly shouldnt be banned on GA....
Completely agree! I'm open to all theories and can't wait to discover the truth, no matter what it is!
Curiosity pilled the frog ;)
After all there are at least 2 Q drops that say to question everything.
Some of this stuff isn't easy to break.out of.
Interesting. Thanks for the tidbit!!
These are some of my rotating wallpapers/memes.
You must always be willing to truly consider evidence that contradicts your beliefs and admit the possibility you are wrong. Intelligence isn't knowing everything. It's the ability to challenge everything you know.
If you're not willing to entertain the possibility you have been fooled, then you are the easiest kind of person to fool.
Questioning and doubting what's going on these days does not make you "anti" anything. Nor does it make you a conspiracy theorist. Actually, questioning IS and should be the place of reason. The fact that questioning has become taboo, should, in fact, send a chill up everyone's spine.
There's more that cut a little deeper, but I'll rest here.
Agreed across the board. I love the falsely attributed Mark Twain quote the best: "It's easier to fool someone then convince them they've been fooled.".
How and why things work this way, I have no clue. But this is undoubtedly the case.
I find it remarkable, that on this board, of all places, so many pushback on extremely well-vetted "conspiracies". It's understandable out in every day normie-ville, but here, where dozens of lies each day are discussed and exposed?
A long time ago I asked to be shown the truth, wherever it led me. Needless to say, it's well beyond all these petty materialistic topics, but they're still fun to investigate and discuss!
My exact words, said on many occasions. A corollary to that is that one can only solve a problem by identifying the actual source of the problem, and sometimes one's own actions/beliefs are the source.
Some people can let go of some false beliefs, but other false beliefs are so closely held as truth (sometimes linked to false self-perceptions) that where those things are concerned their minds are totally closed to contradictory information. I know some otherwise savvy people who know our government is traitorous, but who refuse to consider 9/11 was an inside job, and in fact go so far as to make fun of 9/11 truthers.
My Dad is one of those. Never bought the Covid narrative, believes our government is full of traitors, but 9/11? He gets VERY defensive over this topic. Refuses to believe it was anything but a handful of hijackers orchestrated by Osama Bin Laden and that Bush is a hero even when presented damning contrary evidence.
It’s quite confusing!
You speak the truth, however baffling it still remains. No doubt it takes time and assimilation.
Often times I talk with random people and they want me to "tell them everything". And when I say they wouldn't believe hardly any of it they get angry. I force them to ask me questions so I know where they're at on the "truth spectrum". Typically my responses are questions back to them like, "what if I told you all dis-ease starts in your mind?", to which they respond "you're crazy dude"...hahahaha. And of course I get to say, "see, I told ya you wouldn't believe me....and in my mind that's the least crazy piece of information I have to share!!!" hahaha ;)
I will say this. This realm we call earth is ENTIRELY based on BELIEFS. The cabal knows this full well. And this is why they work so hard and spend so much money on deceiving us. Because we are the creators of this reality, through our beliefs. They cannot create like us. Their role is to shape our beliefs in such a way that we become fearful and judgmental. Because when we do this, we become powerless and hand all our creative power over to "them", the "experts" and "authorities".
If only more people would understand this basic truth. The earth as we know it would shift in the twinkling of an eye... :)
Questioning is never taboo.
The problem is that those who believe in flat earth are totally unwilling to accept the very real evidence that their belief is entirely without merit. It is trivial to prove the earth is ellipsoid of some kind. I have explained on several occasions how this can be done with high school knowledge of spherical geometry and the interior angles of a triangle on a positively curved surface. All of which is available to anyone without going into space.
But flat earther's are intellectually lazy and do not want to understand how the math thoroughly discredits their illusion. So they continue insisting that 2+2=5 and pretend like questioning the answer of 4 is somehow "taboo". It's not. It's just plain and provably wrong to anyone who cares about the truth.
Without merit? Prove it because those are the exact words I used on someone when I lit out to prove his flat earth arguement is without merit. I got a rude awakening. Your own eyes are the way to do it and not looking at others opinions. Amd as far as the math, I've a daughter who is an aerospace engineer, she will tell you, theoretical math can prove both a flat earth and a globe. Because math doesn't care, you can prove any "possibility" with math but not thr actual fact without some other means of observation.
Funny the math is suddenly useless when it comes to the curvature of rhe earth and what should be hidden behind it. A simple telescope or laser can prove the curvature false.
Intellectually lazy is your problem.
I have proven it several times before. Here is the summary.
Use flight planning software. Draw a round trip, direct route triangle between any 3 points on the earth. Make sure they are at least 2000 nm away to get sufficient resolution. Add up the interior angles of the triangle formed by this route. They sum to more than 180 degrees. That proves mathematically the surface you are flying over is positively curved. And since this works for any 3 points anywhere on the globe, this proves the earth can only be an ellipsoid. Q.E.D
Your aerospace engineer daughter can clearly do this and prove it to herself. If she can't, she needs to find a new career. And if you feel the flight planning software is lying, feel free to hop in a plane and fly the route to prove it really is correct.
Laziness is not my problem. There is no opinion about what I say above. Only fact. It is the same as saying 2+2=4. Only someone who is either intellectually dishonest or intellectually lazy would say otherwise.
“One has to break through their own cognitive dissonance to receive righteous discernment to distinguish between the truth and lies that we have been indoctrinated into believing through our educational system.”~ Michael T. Pyle
Your "flight planning software" is lying. I hopped in a plane and proved it to be false.
No you didn't. Because I've used it thousands of times and know it is absolutely correct. You are obviously trolling because you have an emotional desire to believe something which is provably false. Up to you what you want to think, but at some point you are going to have to admit the truth.
Of course I didn’t. I don’t need to. You’re belief system has been planted in your brain by our controlling elites. You are a puppet. Wake up and actually do some research. All these know-it-alls refuse to compile all the evidence. Willfully ignorant.
You never consider for a second that your software is built with the curvature in mind? Do you think they would build it with a flat plane in mind? They are probably just as brainwashed as you
Righr!?!?Came to say this. It was making me mad reading it. He's more interested in trying to impress people with big fancy words.
He sure is. Appears to have spent a great deal of time crafting a 5000 word essay that fails in ways he's unable to even grasp!
WHY IS THIS STICKIED? Because, holy shit, THIS is exactly why these topics are outside our scope, as outlined in the sidebar (high effort, high info), and wow, I haven't read anything better that more expertly outlines exactly why these flat earth, moon landing hoax fuckwits are banned around here than this. Well done.
Fuckwits, eh? Nice. See you on the moon! KEK!!
At risk of a temp ban again, while I agree that these topics are outside of scope of Q discussion, these topics are NOT low effort or low info.
Each topic has some high level science based discussions surrounding them. That said, since we are intending to bring on normies who are just starting to shake off their indoctrination, they should be redirected to more appropriate wins, like conspiracies.win, as opposed to being denigrated in that way.
The article represents the lowest level grasp of the counter arguments, and the referring them as "boring" is the same type of response most Q topics get from normies who will just laugh at before launching insults.
I mean, the germ theory vs terrain theory debate is thoroughly misrepresented, the terrain theory isn't saying viruses do not exist, just do not exist as the germ theory claims. The Rockefeller medical industry could not profit if the terrain theory "won" and so it has been indoctrinated out of "acceptable" viewpoints.
See you on the moon!! KEK!! This was just a test. I'll delete. Had to confirm my comments were shadow banned!! Can't believe it but here we are.
Not shadowbanned (we don't have that ability)
This article is trash
Yeah sure. The virus with the exact symptoms as the flu, that uses tests that read false positive if you have the flu, that lead to no increase in death rate? Yeah that absolutely must be real and anyone who says it could just be the flu is an idiot.
This guy sounds like a fucking coincidence theorist.
https://greatawakening.win/p/16ZqKnzYZD/unleashed-special-editionisland-/
Careful before the thought police find out who you are :)
If anyone here believes that this board itself has reached The Great Awakening then you are still half asleep at best. There is SO MUCH MORE. Pray for discernment and you’ll find it. I’ve found just the beginning of my new path, and until this board opens up to being even MORE awakened, you’re only half awake. At the risk of being censored I won’t say anymore- but I’ll say that this board is full of controllers. Pray for discernment. Believe in God- His majesty is all around you.
Agree. We've barely scratched the surface.
...doggy winks
...and...
Amen!
Well said.
Your post caught my eye last night. I can agree with what you're saying. Nothing's changed overnight though. This did not go as planned for some though. I can't find the post on the HOT page anywhere. Looks to have been "disappeared".
LOL.
This guy writes like a bitter Lefty. Condescendingly, with insults, minimal sources and no ability to understand any of the topics presented. They are unfamiliar, like so many retarded people are, about both sides of any debate. A child's mind likes to be right so will often present the worst of the other viewpoint and the best of theirs. Thank you for posting such HILAROUSLY RETARDED content. It is fascinating to see such infantile minds gain a following.
"This guy writes like a bitter Lefty. Condescendingly, with insults,
like so many retarded people
A child's mind
HILAROUSLY RETARDED content
such infantile minds"
...doggy winks...
It's also tough to balance a counter argument (though I DO agree with the general mod opinion on the matter that those topics should be, for lack of a better term, kept on a short leash around here BECAUSE of how it would be used to smear the group) when there's the unspoken threat of pushing it too far and getting a slap on the wrist.
Worries of being smeared are lame because we get smeared for saying an election was stolen.
True enough, but when you consider that people that MIGHT be open might get turned off if issues go some steps "too far" we might as well try to keep that to a minimum.
If they are open the truth will get to.them.
...GAW is a political beast...
...the mods have to keep the material/contributors on task...
Well put!!
Back in 1992, I stopped paying taxes because I believed the government was corrupt. Back then I was researching the meaning of gold-tasseled flags and the illegality of income taxes and the US being incorporated and the fractional banking scam. I'm an open minded individual with over 30 years research into the cabal. I was reading Q drops on day 1. Until I realized he was Mossad, I used to even enjoy Alex Jones.
I've been exposed to every conspiracy theory under the sun.
There's a sure-fire way to know if any particular psyop is likely legitimate or a deep state psyop.
And that is ... to what degree the proponents are the biggest assholes you've ever come across, and also to what degree they are willing to go to get banned violating forum rules as they proselytize their supposed beliefs.
It's not a perfect method of ascertaining whether you're dealing with the truth or a psyop, but it's pretty damn good method.
....compelling observations...
...flesh them out, then message the material to me, and we will Unleash it...
So passion is a symptom of a psy-op?
I think many non-psyop folks are willing to get banned for their beliefs.
Which conspiracy are you speaking of?
As a real world example, people here are passionate about Q.
People here also aren't making thousands of burner accounts to post about Q on reddit.
And even if they were making thousands of burner accounts to post about Q on reddit, they wouldn't be complete assholes, being condescending to others while simultaneously trying to convince them Q is real.
Any conspiracy. Do you think only certain ones merit passion?
Secondly lets look at another real world example, TDW for example. Many feel the same way about Q as they do FE, moon landing or lizard people.
What makes us different from the lizard people believers? Proofs? They say Ron Watson already all but admitted he was Q. They have an out. No need to look at proofs now.
We are nothing but a crazy cult psyop to them and most normies probably. As you said, we are passionate and as I can see from these comments many if us are condescending as well.
Are we feds or psyop brainwashed folks being used to paint MAGA as a bunch conspiratards?
It's no method at all.
In some of the instances there are 'controlled groups' that do that while the more legitimate proponents get silenced or otherwise kept in obscurity.
As for the tax thing, if the tax groups feel you'll be getting refunds, they won't bother you about taxes, but if they view that you would owe, you'll start getting phone calls after about 5 years in...
True. And those control groups warp it into something so ridiculous that the actual focus of the legitimate groups become delegitimized.
The Jew hater cult comes to mind. We want to hold the banking families and media responsible and they warp it into angst against every living Jew.
And the Jew hater cult are probably the biggest bunch of assholes.
And if I don't have a phone that's traceable to me? Keep in mind it's been 30 years since I stirred up that hornet's nest hehe.
Actually that's a strong analog, I'm not strong in the FE camp beyond that they do raise SOME compelling arguments that can't just be handwaved away, and the main ones tend to revolve around evidence that there is a firmament.
Again to the taxes, the longest I went was 7 years and I got a visit, which was funny because I did them all and had about 1000$ worth of refunds.... I went to an accountant because there was 1 of the years I figured I would owe 5-10k, and she told me that same thing, they will spend 10k to get 50$ they think you owe, but if they feel you are getting refunds they won't bother reminding you.
Bible says there's a firmament. So there is. No dumbass is going to get around that with their public education.
Yes, really, even though they haven't made so compelling of arguments that I would say definitively the earth is a topographical map, these issues revolving around atmosphere adjacent to a vacuum and the electrostatic gradient do REQUIRE containment to be consistent with physical laws that are known and well established.
Why it's important to me boils down more to the philosophical questions over the scientific, something that the modern names that we would look to acknowledge that they preferred the heliocentric models because the geocentric models would have the philosophical implications that the earth was special and placed their by a "God". Further, for me, it's about understanding the universe in the greatest capacity that my smooth brain can comprehend (I am an engineer, only to say that I'm not stupid as I often claimed of people who would entertain the concepts, shit, not even really a year ago).
You may not be aware, but the heliocentric and geocentric stellar model works equally well and only represents a change in the center point, the heliocentric model is just a simpler calculation.
(Edited only spacing to fit in one quote block) Now this part is why I agree that GAW is not really an appropriate forum, and generally agree with the mods that this should be kept at conspiracies.win instead, NOT because the topics don't have merits worthy of debate or discussion but because part of our role is in redpilling normies to the primary issues of human trafficking, vaccines, and the elites who ultimately want to kill off the majority of us all. The only reason I'm even raising these is that it's one of the few times where it was context appropriate to the OP.
People who are raising the topics where they would explicitly be out of context, IMO, are assholes, like in a knitting forum as you raised. Again, I agree that in terms of Q related discussion, an argument can be made where the topic does fit, but I agree with the general mod opinion that it doesn't belong, even if for a different reason (my view is that it will make it easier to smear us all as "Qanons and flat earthers"). However, the germ vs terrain theory does fit more closely with Q topics because of the past couple years and the vaxx issue.
Agreed completely, and why I don't bring up the topics unless the OP is relevant, and don't create topics on those lines. However, I've grown far less antagonistic, so when the thread context applies, I will bring up my opinions. If you look through the thread, I even mention to ashlandog that I agree with why they should keep these topics "on a short leash".
This line is where things get tricky... especially in the context of how often we've been told to "trust the science" these past few years when it was clearly not science.... and similarly discussion of the earth and its place in the universe relies heavily on trusting the science. When there are points of scrutiny that are simply dismissed because we've been taught about the globe from kindergarten, and have come to accept it.
The implication of the earth being flat is, essentially, God is real.
But oddly enough, that's an argument I don't see flat earthers trying to make. Like they haven't bothered thinking out the implications of their conspiracy.
Or that, if you could prove God is real by proving the earth is flat, that faith wouldn't be necessary and thus the entire point of all current Christian doctrine would be moot.
I'm no scientist.
But then again, neither are flat earthers.
Einstein says gravity is space and time warped around mass, and that mass is simply following a straight line in the path of least resistance.
If that's the case, then containment of atmosphere is not necessary. It's held in place by gravity, which is the space time warp around the planet mass.
That's the problem with flat earther gobbledygook pseudo science. The mere idea that atmosphere needs to be "contained" is inconsistent with known science. If they're asking how it's contained, they don't understand. They're reducing the problem to what they know and understand, like how a jar might contain high pressure air and how that air escapes when the lid is taken off, without any thought given to how gravity isn't a significant part of that example.
Or better yet, they can come to the realization that some things are unknowable, and picking a side and arguing it to death to the point of obnoxiousness on internet forums is a hill not worth dying on (unless that's their job because they're paid).
IMO at least, flat earthers tend to avoid making biblical arguments because the people looking to scientific arguments lean towards atheistic and so a biblical argument would be refuted as "unscientific."
I'm something in that middle range, the ideal would be something consistent with biblical views but consistent with scientific principles.
In a sense at least.
Don't worry, I'm just an engineer... BUT, as far as astrophysics goes, Special relativity only works as Einstein described for 5% of the observable universe, so, the scientists, in order to maintain Relativity, had to create the concepts of dark matter and dark energy (dark matter adds mass without any EM signature and dark energy to add extra repulsion without EM signature) in order to maintain Einstein's theories to the observation.
What relativity states is that the mass of an object bends the "space-time" around that object, but that concept is at odds with quantum theories where electrostatics (from electrons that is 10^48 times more powerful than gravity claims to be). So, the "flat earther gobbledygook" is actually a more elegant solution where the electrostatic effect, density and buoyancy generates a far more elegant solution, except that it requires that the atmosphere is contained. That all doesn't mean that there aren't other planets or that travelling between planets is impossible, just that it's not something that can be done through chemical propulsion (consider, in a vacuum, chemical propulsion doesn't work because there's nothing to push against, ).
Gravity is described as a weak force that doesn't exist at the quantum level, except for the Higgs boson that is what provides a mass to the particles and even then is a reification of special relativity and not a proven concept that applies at any macro scale. The problem with the globe earth model as that is concerned is that heat and high pressures will move into lower pressure and temperature systems when they interact and the force of that goes beyond the force of gravity (I've been standing at the air intake of an HVAC system where I felt both the heat of the furnace AND the suction of the air flow which was counter-intuitive because the heater was about 10ft away)
This part I can agree with because I understand that as a system increases in scale it also increases in complexity and usually to a greater extent than the increase in scale).
What I should have done was just went off the grid and strictly under-the-table income. But I was angry and a bit naive 30 years ago as an impressionable 21-year-old.
So I filed a bunch of paperwork saying taxes were voluntary and asking for refunds of previous income (which wasn't that much as you can imagine, asking refunds for when I was still a teen). So they hit me with frivolous filing fees of a few thousand and then eventually got a lien.
It was a difficult time, at that time, couldn't hold a job for more than 6 months without getting garnishment papers and quitting, moving on to the next job.
But I persevered and eventually flourished.
I actually left the US just before Obama took office and have been living abroad ever since.
Looking back on it all, I'd do it again. But I'd also caution anyone who would do the same to reflect on the consequences and harsh realities of the situation.
That's effectively what my research had shown, that there IS an argument that can be made to make one immune from income taxes, BUT it's very easy to create a situation where you 'opt in' and from then on you have to do the income taxes that it's really a massive gamble where one would truly have to know what they are doing.
For me, it became a fight that I didn't want to take the gamble and risk potential prison time, or massive fines...
That said, I've known people from construction days who owed ~100k in taxes but then negotiated that they could never pay that much and got it reduced 90%.
Their power to enforce their lie is all they have.
Comments from this non-critically-thinking author:
Not a bad way to grift off 1000x the money that was actually spent on their barely functional toys and instead use it on their underground facilities and black project programs, eh? NASA gets $81 Million dollars a day from the US Taxpayer. What benefit have you ever received from this grift?
Quite an assertion, as if the author lacks the IMAGINATION he so sorely begs for, eh?
No flat-earther thinks this. This is classic braiwashee projection. He's heard somebody on the "Flat earth is idiotic side" make this statement. He has learned all he knows of flat earth from his buddies alone. BIG mistake for anybody trying to ascertain truth.
Without depth? What could he possibly mean by this? I've never heard any flat-earther even make a remark such as this. Where is this guy getting his information? From the deep state perhaps?
Many FE'ers do indeed believe in the impassable dome. But what does he mean by "illusion of a wider universe" makes little sense and once again, surprise surprise, nothing any legitimate flat-earth researcher has ever suggested.
Eternally? Once again, the author's limited imagination and even more limited research skills cause his brainwashed perspective leavinghim caught in his box of globe lies. No flat-earther believes, let alone has suggested anything of the sort. The author initiates his "fear-programming" beautifully, as the cabal would agree, in this assessment. Eternal damnation in the snowglobe!!! ahhhhhH!!!!!
The prevailing opinion of all legitimate flat-earthers is that there are countless continents and cultures beyond the ice wall (Antarctica). We even have ancient maps that depict them. One was even posted in a Honolulu newspaper around 1902! Not only that, nobody knows anything about what's "out there". We just know it sure as heck ain't what we're being told, and that's the simplest thing to demonstrate.
Says a guy who has listened only to people who support the glober deception. And of course they would try to sell this idea to maintain their false model.
And now he quotes one of the biggest lying scheister frauds in the history of mainstream media and economics. A guy who literally gets paid millions of dollars to lie to the American public! Brilliant stuff dude!
Okay, well I WILL RAG ON YOU as this guy once again demonstrates he's never listened to a single legitimate flat-earther as the Eratosthenes story has been clearly addressed for a decade now. Firstly, the only mention of this person is first found in a book in a library in 1952. There isn't a single mention of this person in antiquity. Secondly, and far more important, the Eratosthenes story only holds water if the sun is 93 million miles away and the all the suns rays are coming to earth in parallel lines. You can see for yourself that they're not. You don't need any "experts" to explain it to you. The suns rays are not parallel. They are clearly dispersed at different angles. That's because the sun isn't 93 million miles away, a distance nobody could see no matter how large they make their phake sun. Nobody can see that far. And light doesn't "have a speed". And there's no such thing as "protons". And how did they calculate the sun's distance? Why they ASSUMED that the wandering star, mistakenly called a "PLANEt, Venus, was about the same size as earth. That's one heck of an ASSUMPTION. How did they arrive at this conclusion? Ah, yes, they used "mathematical models" they invented of course. But what if Venus was the size of a basketball? Or maybe a mountain? Who can say for sure? Not these liars and deceivers. What if the sun was say 3300 miles away? And what if it was say 32 miles in diameter? Would the "Eratosthenes" sticks experiment work on a Flat Plane Earth if this were the case and the sun's rays were not parallel? Why by gosh, by golly, it sure would!! Exactly as we see and as experiment shows. What a surprise!!! Your eyeballs don't lie, the cabal does!!
Yeah, he's not ragging on us at all. What a clown. He's literally talking about an invented mathematical model to make his sad, sorry point. A MODEL that the cabal made up. It has no basis in reality. The globers literally cannot provide a single scientific proof that earth is ROTATING. None exist. Surprised? I was too. I thought for sure there must be dozens of proofs 5 years ago. But nope, they can't prove the earth is ROTATING. And as luck would have it, your own God-given senses can't detect such an absurdity either. Because it's a lie! And who would go to such trouble to tell us this lie? Let's see. What is this imaginary "axis tilt" obliquity of the globe earth? Why it's 23.4 degrees. That's an interesting number. What's 90 degrees minus 23.4 degrees? By gosh, we've caught our authors of the deception literally red handed; it's 66.6. Fun, fun, fun, eh? They bury their favorite number all over. Like the alleged speed of the earth orbiting the sun. As crazy cosmic luck would have it, the speed is **66,6*00 MPH. Voila!
This guy has to be kidding. It's so inspiring it's beyond his imagination. That we live upon a special and unique realm that didn't arise by an accidental Jesuit priest's "Big Bang THEORY" is most inspiring. That we're here quite on purpose, not by accident. But I detect his fan faction Star Wars feelings are what really have been hurt. For the record, no flat-earther suggests anything even remotely close to what this author is insinuating - that's there's "nothing else out there". We are simply saying that the stars and planetary bodies are not even close to what the cabal establishment narrative is telling us they are.
Most legitimate flat earthers do indeed embrace this, and then some. Like perhaps there is an entirely unique realm on the flip side of our surface. But hey, it's clear at this point that this guy clearly isn't interested in representing legitimate flat earthers. He represents his glober pals who are upset that they can't prove their globe model to critical thinkers. This is EXACTLY how they operate. It's one strawman argument after another from these guys. Honestly, I feel bad for him and his ilk. This is all they've got. All they can do is invent fake strawmen to argue against. It's quite pathetic in this day and age. That strategy worked in 2012, but is just embarrassing now in 2022.
Is it now? There's $60,000 (3 bitcoin) awaiting to be claimed for such a demonstration and it's been on offer for nearly 3 years now. It used to be worth close to $200K. I wonder why nobody ever claimed this trivially easy to claim prize? Could it be because they can't? (answer, yes, that's the reason). These globers are all talk, zero science, zero proof, zero evidence whiners. That's the truth of the matter.
Ah yes, I've been waiting for the "Appeal to Authority logical fallacy". Only highly trained seismologists can prove these "trivially easy to prove" claim. Is that the story now? At what point do you start laughing at this guy?
And here he takes a legitimate flat-earth argument and attempts to spin it in his sad direction? This is next level deception!!!! The flat-earth community has been saying for years that the deepest anybody has ever drilled into the earth is a little shy of 8 miles. As such, how could MUH SCIENCE know all they claim to know about the crust, mantle, core, etc. as they've never gotten anywhere close to any of it. It almost feels like this guy has only read the Cabal-sponsored, Google-endorsed "Flat Earth Society" website, which of course pops up at the top of Google searches. Is it possible the author did so little research into flat earth that he believes the "Pancake in space" deception they have on offer? I'm beginning to think this is all the farther he's gotten. He's doubly-brainwashed.
These are questions flat-earthers are asking, not establishment globers!!! According to the globe model of scientism, this is all impossible because of muh mantle and muh crust which is unassailable scientism dogma!!
Now he proves he's only ever been to the cabal-run "Flat Earth Society" website with this comment. What a waste of time...
And still further proof the author hasn't even done a modicum of legitimate flat-earth research. This topic is literally discussed weekly on dozens of different researchers videos. Could it be, I wonder, because the illuminati doesn't what you to know where you are, why you are here, how you got here and who you are? Nah, that's not a very "satisfying" answer, is it?
More brilliance to come in the next installment...
Bravo! Nice work, fren.
I would also point to The Bible, specifically Genesis, and how the cabal has been working for hundreds of years now to systematically attack Genesis line by line. They’ve already convinced most people that the first few lines are nonsense (the face of God over the Deep, the creation of light, the timeline of creation, the firmament, and the formation of Earth), and they are now currently attacking the fundamental binary of male and female. How more people who believe in The Bible don’t see what they are doing is kind of amazing, as these believers keep rewriting The Bible in their minds to absorb the cabal’s lies. Look at how they are doing it with homosexuality too. “Well, God didn’t REALLY mean what He said about men lying with men and how it will destroy your civilization”, as we literally watch the culture descend into madness in the wake of gay pride/gay marriage. Another one is “God is Love” - sounds nice on a T-shirt or a coffee cup, and easily fools children, but where in The Bible does it say “God is Love”? What does that even mean?
As for the possibility of infinite continents beyond the ice wall, for the people who NEED space to preserve enjoyment in all their sci-fi movies and TV shows, infinite land gets you pretty much the same thing, and it’s much closer, versus the infinite distances of space. I know people fantasize about one day living on Mars, but the likelihood is that that ain’t happening any time soon, and is more than likely a cabal trick to keep you distracted from the here and now. I’d also like to point out that in a world of infinite land in every direction, the idea of a government charging excessive taxes on everything, or printing the stored value of your money down to zero, becomes absurd. People would just move to somewhere else on the infinite land where that isn’t happening. The entire wage-slave/tax cattle system we are trapped in would fall apart almost immediately.
You're right over the target my friend. Agreed across the board!
The Bible. The actual authority.
...you never fail to amaze...
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I do what I can...thanks ADog!
...I will be here Saturday....
Yessir, I'll hit you with installment 4 tomorrow. Cheers!
...the Antivirus League reporting for duty...
...long weekends lend themselves to reading....
...howls...
Well, you said it, they simply think they think, then they insult.
New and great ideas are difficult for some.
Indeed, well said!
I once devoured a pdf of natural observations from a couple centuries ago that described in detail many natural observations of the heavens. I have since witnessed the truth of eclipses along with many other phenomena that the author was correct about… but I have been unable to find the document again since. Any chance you could point me in the right direction?
I'm confused. You think the author was correct about some heavenly observations? I must have missed that section.
But I do agree that many millennia ago, the people could track all the stars, wandering stars and eclipses with perfect precision. In fact, NASA uses their star time tables to do their predictions to this very day.
I think you are correct and at some point have likely read the same or similar which I stumbled upon but have had trouble finding again. Can you recommend any info from the 19th or early 20th century that uses natural observations to come to many truths about the world we live in?
Eric Dubay would be your guy on this subject. He's read a couple dozen books from that time period and talks about them routinely on his video channel. Let me see if I can find one of his videos where he talks about all these old school books...
Eric isn't the most popular guy in the FE movement as he's congenitally paranoid for some reason. Nonetheless, he's undoubtedly the father of the modern FE movement having gotten the ball rolling again some 12 years ago.
Here's his Odysee channel which is loaded with videos of interest: https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c?view=content
So here are a bunch of his videos covering older books:
https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/TheEarthaPlaneAudiobook:6 https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/ChartandCompassSextantandSundialLongitudeandLatitudeGlobeorPlaneAudiobook:8 https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/TheShapeoftheEarthAudiobook:3 https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/TheShapeoftheWorldVideobook:9 https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/DoestheEarthRotate-NoVideobook:a https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/TheTerrestrialPlaneVideobook:9 https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/IsEarthaGlobeWhirlinginSpaceVideobook:e https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/TheSea-EarthGlobeandItsMonstrousHypotheticalMotionsVideobook:f https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/HeavenandEarthVideobook:d https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/100ProofsEarthisNotaGlobeVideobook:f
That'll keep ya busy for a while! You should be an expert if you get through all of these classics!
The desert dwellers of biblical times could read the stars like no others. They understood that God wrote His word in the stars and followed them right to the child Christ. We can't even get a grip on the fact that the north star is fixed and a rotating earth going around a sun and that entire solar system Helixing around the universe somehow doesn't cause that fixed star to become unfixed.
Indeed, the contradictions and absurdities are endless!
https://decodingsymbols.wordpress.com/2021/05/27/situational-awareness-covid-vaxx-and-grand-juries/
...compelling addendum....
I agree, Hollow Earth sounds a lot more realistic than Flat Earth.
I believe there is something within the planet the Deep State doesn't want us to know about
...I concur completely...
You should check out the tunderbolts project channel
Could be. I've not gotten there yet, but I'm sure we aren't a globe like they claim.
I found the virus discussion interesting, as well as the premise of the article as described in the final paragraphs.
It is interesting when you look through the original debates when Pasteur was first presenting germ theory.
Of course, the terrain theory would have precluded the profitability of Rockefeller funded medical system that we know and love today. (Of course the link dumbs it down to "viruses aren't real" when it's something closer to viruses are created within the body when conditions of the terrain require it to prevent greater damage, and not something that attacks the body)
Each of those topics do have some serious scientifically minded discussion behind them, and while I agree that it would only be used to better smear the group and should be kept to "conspiracies.win" (as mods have recommended), the dismissal and calling it "boring" to denigrate the topics themselves, IMO at least, is a demonstration of how we have been indoctrinated on those beliefs from a young age.
When the masters goal is to ensure everything you believe is a lie....i would say they were thorough.
'Member when queer theory was a theory that was really really weird?
No? Me neither.
I need to understand more about this. It resonates with my experiences but I've never heard of this.
Terrain?
...we work to give all concepts equal time....
And you're good at doing that.
...dogs were the original arbitrators of fairness...
...tinseled doggy winks...
...tinseled doggy winks...
With very sparkling eyes, no doubt.
...dogs were the original arbitrators of fairness...
As a side note, cats are the arbitrators of 'MINE, all MINE!' In fact, I have one on my lap right now insistently declaring that I'm all hers, and never mind that there are two other cats in the house...though sometimes she will share me with others...occasionally I have all three on my lap.
..cats are the arbitrators of 'MINE, all MINE!'
...absolute ironclad truth....
No doubt you have encountered the Paw of Possession? When a cat stretches forth its paw and places it on something, nevermore to be yours?
Of course. What cracks me up is that cats will decide a certain place is their very favorite place to lie, and then days or weeks later they find a new favorite place to lie...and round and round they go.
AND TAILS AWAGGIN'!!!!
...ho ho howls....
Which part did you find interesting?
All of it, but that's more because it was interesting following the author's thinking. However, this particular paragraph is rather intriguing:
Reframing viruses as commensal genetic update vectors offering access to a vast and crucially important genetic repertoire would necessitate a change in how we saw our relationship, not just to viruses, but to the entire biosphere. Rather than something to insulate ourselves from, as something separate and other, it would lead naturally to an understanding of ourselves as an intrinsic, inextricable element of the biosphere. Our very genomes, which we’ve been accustomed to seeing as fixed from birth, become permeable, open to modification, fluidly connected to a genetic ocean. Evolution becomes not the outcome of a bloody war of attrition, but a collective adventure: evolutionary phase changes are something in which, in principle, an entire species can – and in general does – take part in together.
Well on a whole other level he's right, but that level has nothing to do with "viruses".
This is indeed the way the universe works. What he's talking about are microzymas/somatids which are the building blocks of "life". These are effectively "stem cells" in which all life arises from, including bacteria which arise from the microzyma/somatid in their many forms and shapes (17 to be exact... Q-incidence?).
And when spirit withdraws from the matter (body), it all decomposes back into these indestructible units of life which await their next opportunity to be infused with spirit to generate a new life form.
Thus, it is the microzyma/somatid which is the "essence of life", not the "cell". "Cells" are actually multiple cooperating microzyma/somatids, far from being the 'basic unit of life".
Thanks!
Thanks for the clarification!
Anytime. I'm here to help and wish I could help more. Your willingness to listen and open mind always make my day! :)
Look for my comments in this thread on my take on both FE and unicorns for more...
Read them. Though I didn't say so in my original comment, there are a lot of things in article that I found disturbing, not the least of which was the author's superior attitude (often a narcissist's give-away). You articulated my issues much better than I would have.
I appreciate it Taffy. I know I come off that way, many people tell me so. And I'm not trying to in any way. If I had it my way I'd tell everybody that "nothing is really true". But unfortunately, people hate that even more.
I come off as a "know-it-all" only because I have spent that last 20 years digging into the depths of lies we've been told. So when I tell someone this, their knee-jerk reaction is that "I AM" the know-it-all due to what I'm saying flying in the face of establishment knowledge. I try to say, no, it's all the people running around defending these lies that are the "know-it-alls" as they are the one that have made these claims. I'm simply pointing out the falsity of their claims.
If anything, I'm suggesting we hardly know anything. And the world is a much better place if more engendered this line of thinking. Our "experts" are horribly and profoundly brainwashed.
I've dug into so many rabbit holes you almost wouldn't believe it. And when I do, I have some strange gift of seeing the lies now. I didn't always have it, but after a spiritual awakening about 15 years ago, somehow my "BS meter" went into hyperdrive and I can see the lies just glowing today.
I realize what I share takes considerable time and contemplation to assimilate, if ever. I've never "converted" a single person to many of the controversial subjects I discuss in a single discussion, let alone multiple. I'm just happy you're willing to read what I have to say and consider it. That's all I can ask.
WWG1WGA
Give me something to read please. I'm fascinated and this finally adds up to me.
Installment two - on muh unicorn viruses!!
He's bored eh? He enjoys believing in, and FEARING boogeymen that have clearly never been demonstrated to exist. That does lead to a less boring life I suppose. Let's see how LITTLE he understands about the "No Virus people"!
Ah, we're "obnoxious" huh? Us trying to spread the truth is "obnoxious" to him. What a wonderful perspective. Our world was only turned upside down by the big virus lie, no biggie there. Just a minor nuisance is all. Un-effin-real!
Spoken like a true brainwashed materialist whose fully brainwashed by his indoctrination edumcation. Speak for yourself pal. I'm much more than a "simple primate". That's merely a suit I wear for a brief period of time.
Once again, speak for yourself. This collective attitude smells a whole lot like communism/marxism/socialism to me. Could that be why he fails to understand rational discussion?
Another "appeal to authority logical fallacy". Who are these "knowledge authorities" he speaks of? Are we forced to agree with them because he says so?
He doesn't realize what he's saying, but I happen to agree with what he's saying --- that he doesn't REALIZE. Because it is BELIEFS that get us into trouble, like the belief in muh unicorn viruses as one tiny example...
Can you explain why? Have you ever seen a virus? If not, why then is it so absurd?
This is where I make everybody angry as "terrain theory" is also an unproven falsehood. Both germ and terrain theory are incorrect. And that's why they're both still called THEORIES...no facts!!
Correct. But neither can "Germ theory". There's not a single scientific experiment that demonstrates "infectious spread of contagious disease",,,because that's not what's happening in the first place!!
Uh yeah, it's called brute force genocide. Ever consider that as a possibility?
Yet another establishment cabal lie he BELIEVES. Nothing of the sort happened. See the "Island of Misfit Viruses" series from the Anti-Virus-Leauge from AshlandDog posts for the full explanation.
WTF? This guy is now going to tell me and my cohorts why we do what we do, due to our "emotional motiviation"? Who does this guy think he is? Freud the fraud? What ever happened to seeking the truth for truth's sake? Nah, that couldn't be it from these crazy "no virus people". We only operate according to our "emotional motivation" to evangelize. Well ya just can't argue with that! And here I thought I was just interested in getting to the truth of the matter...silly me.
Ah right, the last 3 years have been LARGELY IRRELEVANT to this guy, and he speaks for all of us, right? Lockdowns, closed businesses, forced masks on babies and children, mandated jabs, blocked airline travel, corporate mandates. All irrelevant folks, just move along as the good slaves that you are. SMH...
They already did it? Is this guy perhaps braindead?
The virus is about as good as it's gonna get for them. Something nobody can see, nobody can prove exists but that we all should BELIEVE does according to our "blind trust in authority" edumacation programs we're supposed to be running.
This is another strawman logical fallacy. He's directing the reader to agree that if it's not viruses, it must be terrain theory. Both of which are untrue. Where does that leave the reader?
Whatever do you mean?
Which holes? Which "basic observation" can he make? Reading a paper from establishment pseudoscientific virologists? Words on paper? He doesn't have an argument and this is why he doesn't make one. Because he CAN'T!
Well for the first time he's on the right track. But his arguments fail due to the initial "belief in viruses". First you must demonstrate viruses exist. He of course fails to do this, and just assumes his readers will all go along with him.
Utter poppycock nonsense. We've learned no such thing. What a ludicrous statement.
And more nonsense. You and the virologists have yet to prove muh unicorn viruses exist yet, and now these mythical creatures are "splicing genes"? How does he get from here to there? He doesn't. He just read some words he believes and then says so.
He's now talking about Microzyma/Somatids. He clearly hasn't done anywhere near enough research to know what these are and I don't have the space to explain them in detail. Suffice it to say, these are the building blocks of all life and in a way, do what he's saying. But they're not viruses!!! You can think of them as stem cells for easy comprehension. Check out how the lives of Royal Rife and Gaston Naessans were destroyed by the medical and legal authorities so that their dark field microscopes wouldn't become common-place thus leaving the microbial world ripe for deceptive fairytales.
He's round-aboutly correct in this paragraph. There's no such thing as "harmful" bacteria. Our bodies create bacteria, which morph from the microzyma/somatid to perform valuable tasks within our body.
This is more strawmanning rhetoric. He's now saying we SHOULD believe in viruses because, well, it could be good for us. His failure to understand things is based on this; while the establishment medical cabal is 100% reliant on a "narrative", the "no virus people" aren't selling a "NARRATIVE". We offer only the truth, which is self-evident, requiring no "narrative" to propagate.
The author's fundamental inability to comprehend these topics is that we he christens as "KNOWN" are actually GIGANTIC LIES. What he thinks he "knows" is actually a bunch of lies he **BELIEVES""!!!
I actually can't think of any better TRUTHS to break the spell of a lifetime of indoctrination and humanity's incessant need to have "blind trust in authority". This is the author's blind spot through and through. He's a "BELIEVER OF LIES" but doesn't realize it....yet.
And one last dig at the flat-earthers for good measure eh? H would like you to believe, as he apparently does, that realizing flat earth forces you into a world where "nothing ever happens"...which is the exact POLAR OPPOSITE of what Flat-Earthers believe and are espousing.
Which is PRECISELY what the author is doing by rejecting his own common sense, in favor of his "blind trust in authority".
This is the battle cry of the globe-earth defenders. They are so lost in their mental abstractions and models that they refuse to accept the ACTUAL TRUTH because a bunch of independent researchers haven't yet assembled a brand new mental model abstraction (that took decades and trillions of dollars to invent) they can replace it with.
My advice to the author, it's okay to not know everything. Knowing that you've been lied to on a massive scale is at first angering, then depressing, but eventually it's most liberating when you come back to your own God-given senses and realize this realm we live in is a fantastically beautiful and mysterious place, unexplained by scientism and the ostensible experts.
And for those still unswayed by my remarks. I'd like to make it perfectly clear that it is the ESTABLISHMENT that is MAKING CLAIMS, not me/us. We have evaluated their claims on the globe earth and on viruses. And not a single one of them is true. That's our only "claim". That we know we've been lied to.
Onward and upward!
I love this comment, THIS should be a sticky. I could not bring myself to give him more time writing something like this but you really put it all out there. Brilliant and on Q!
Gracias my friend, gracias!
Lmao, you have great patience my friend. When am ignorant man tries to double down on theor ignorance I try to give them room.
It has to be done at great sacrifice...haha :)
Conical Earth. A cone. You heard me. Word.
Find the tip and sit on it.
Square!
I think hollow / expanding earth makes some good arguments
...ho ho howls...
after spending way too much time arguing against flat earthers, and moon hoaxers, my determination is that they can't think, you can present them with the same facts, and evidence, and they reach the wrong and opposite conclusions every time, often using very elaborate "logic" that's absurdly easy to disprove. something with them is just hardwired wrong,
. Showing them Simple Geometry, and giving them simple experiments That THEY CAN DO THEMSELVES, Doesn't work. they literally don't understand the results of their own experiments. I have found it pointless to argue against them, I also know that a lot of them are just Trolls
There's a 3 bitcoin ($54,000!!!) prize you can win with your simple proofs. Quit arguing online with us "trolls" and go claim it. When you do, I'll flip over to your side. Until you do, you're on the losing side of what now is a non-debatable subject as nobody has been able to claim this money in over 3 years. That's a bad look for globe-defenders. The "flat-earthers" are, first and foremost TRUTHERS. That's all we want. Something the establishment never delivers...
oh here's another one reneging https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOsXkYpIqR0
Never heard of either one of these guys. It was clearly just a personal bet between these dudes. Nothing on offer to the public.
Do you believe in the bible?
there is a much larger prize to prove the earth is flat.. 1.5 million, go claim it.
what part of " I quit arguing" a long time ago did you not understand?. again,, you guys can't Think.
there have been Multiple Trolls offering up money, to people to prove the earth is round, they have all reneged on their offer, despite very obvious , and frankly simple proof.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FJG65nbUO8&t so no, i won't be wasting my time with an idiot that is offering 3 bitcoins,, he won't be honest with himself, let alone me.
. flat earthers reject common sense, they reject geometry, they reject simple math, they reject experiments they can do themselves, I won't be dragged into a flat earth debate, you're all idiots.
I didn't ask for an argument. I told you to go collect your rightfully earned money, and win over every flat-earther on the PLANE at the same time.
Why don't you give me your irrefutable proof then? I could use an extra $54K. I'll split the prize with you if you have too much on your plate. What do you say?
Who's offering the $1.5Million prize? Never heard of it. Do share!
there are SEVERAL. . here is one, I have no idea if these are still valid, and No I am not interested in proving to you the world is round. Nothing I offer, would prove anything to you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWhVWmsDlfQ
LOL, this clown backed down on his offer after the guy offering 3 bitcoin tried to take him up on his offer. Several other flat-earthers also reached out to him to take him up on it. He had to change his phone number and email and never returned calls when his bluff got called.
You're gonna have to do better than that!
You don't need to prove anything to me. I just need your irrefutable proof that I can give to the guy offering the 3 bitcoin. He'll even do a public video on whether or not your proof proves itself out or not. There's nothing to lose!!!
there's nothing to lose, except my time and dignity, grow up, those people are just dangling fake offers, none of them have ever paid out, you think that 3 bitcoin is the only offer? there are offers on both sides, it takes 5 mins to find them, you are wasting my time. the earth isn't flat. you're stupid if you think it is.
Why are you so mean?
I personally know the guy making the offer. I can vouch for him. Calling him a conman is a cop out.
If you've got a legit proof, give it to me and I'll take it to him. I'm only interested in the truth. I'm not married to either side of the argument, despite the fact that the score is like 287 to 0 right now.
I'm willing to change my mind but it appears you don't share the same sentiment. Which is it? Are you more interested in the truth or in defending the globe?
You say you've got the proof that ends the FE movement. Great. I'll keep all the money and you can smile in the background knowing it was your proof that killed it if that's the way you'd like to do it.
I know Dave Weiss and I know he's good for the 3 bitcoin offer. You now have nothing to lose.
Awe, insults are the refuge of the low thinkers
As you argue amd post multiple times. You are begging g to be convinced. You are almost there.
I did exactly the same, that was until I was challenged to look at the ACTUAL discussion and not the repetitions from the Flat Earth Society... and I even had the same tone in my explanations as to how refraction and gravity covers all the experiments they used for demonstration.
There were a few issues that eventually got raised that cored a hole in my brain because they were peer-reviewed, but I had never considered the implications. First, that Einstein and other modern scientists rejected the concept of a stationary earth, NOT for scientific reasons but for the philosophical rationale that it would mean the earth was 'special'. Next, that there's Quantum theories, Newtonian mechanics, and Special Relativity; quantum theory has nothing for gravity (no graviton exists and the Higgs Boson only covers mass), Newtonian gravity is a description of the effect of downward acceleration with no attempt to explain the cause, and special relativity has failed in 95% of the predictions such that they had to create the concepts of dark matter and energy to explain away the rest.
Then third, the electrostatic gradient of the earth measured at 100V per meter up to the ionosphere.... to have that kind of capacitance requires 2 materials, the earth and something above the earth to hold the opposite charge.
None of that makes the "flat earth" definitive, but it does have some serious implications that tend towards the biblical model of the earth as effectively topographical within a container.
You're on the right track. This is all exciting and newly developing research!
It's my opinion that, while science originated from the desire to explain the universe without an appeal to God, that science is getting to the level where it is being reluctantly dragged into accepting that there was a creator (not just of the earth, but a creator of all). The electric universe theory becomes far more elegant in that context.
Agreed. The story is even more amazing than anybody can imagine!
i'm an actual physicist, you have mixed and confused several actual concepts together in a word salad, that to me shows you have a lack of knowledge in these fields, I am not interested in nitpicking through it. The flat earth is concept is blatantly flawed and wrong, if you want to debate it go find someone else
Truly, I believe this is the basis of virtually every "conspiracy theory". We have an abysmal education system, especially in the hard sciences. Instead of teaching children how to think logically and develop reasoning skills, we rely on rote memorization.
We don't teach children to learn or think. We teach them to memorize. And once they're out of an academic setting, and without guidance, we put practically all the information in existence at their fingertips and say "Go get 'em, Tiger!".
And TADAAA,!, it's the reason why we have the saying "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing".
Edited to add stuff I forgot I wanted to say because, bourbon.
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Trust the science? Sure.
I'm good with God's truth on it. He doesnt lie.
Weird, I spent my entire life thinking the same things as you about the earth. The only difference was when I said FEs were nuts I researched and guess what, I found out their thinking had merit and i was the one who previously was not thinking. I dont argue shit because I don't care if you believe it or not.
...howls...
Throwing this out before I read any of the replies, to see how many others mention it. (Especially now that Musk has become such an influential voice)
All of this actually IS a computer simulation run by more advanced beings.
We are not real. This actually IS the Matrix.
Glitches in life (extraordinary "coincidences") are simply processing errors.
I'll update this as I get the time, and I don't see examples I want to use being mentioned already.
...this is beginning to get interesting....
I firmly believe this reality, this 3-D reality, this planet and universe was created by God as a training ground for us to learn things that we can’t learn in our true energy/Soul forms. All you have to do is read a whole bunch of near-death experiences, and it all becomes very clear who we really are, what we’re doing here, and why. https://www.nderf.org/
Ok
Would someone please explain what 'stickied' means? Thank you!
Depends on the context. We talking spiderman, porn mag or internet post?
..."stickied" refers to a link,meme or printed text being elevated to the"Hot" page...
Thank you kindly!!
Yeah any post you see on the front page highlighted in red has been stickied, a mod has selected it for extra visibility.
...doggy winks...
Here are s one that is fun... https://www.bitchute.com/video/T9lvGO3w3W4l/
...ho ho howls...
OMG finally.
Ok...I'll bite- DARPA is modeled after the Kammler Staff (r&d org for next and next after next gen weapons in Nazi Germany late war puttogether by SS General Hans Kammler). In fact I would not be surprised if Kammler himself (he was in US custody when document trail stopped) was instrumental in founding the org. Thoughts?
...that would be a heck of a rabbit hole to jump into...
...doggy winks..
...dig me up some material on that and message it to me for inclusion on Unleashed...
Considering they've spearheaded and directed what tech will be for us, I'm not the least bit surprised it could be.
Just Follow Andrew Tate , PBD Podcast also read your bible. Maybe you can become a influencer trough the gospel
Because we're not stupid dammit.
...speak for yourself....
...howls...
I'm pretty dumb. But I ain't no stupid stuff dagnabbit!!!
...doggy winks....
The Earth is round but we didn't go to the moon in the sixties, it was just another cabal money laundering scheme to finance the Vietnam war. Mountains of evidence for both.
My sentiments exactly.
The only one we have proof of and should be banned is flat earth
Because Q said so and not as disinfo
the rest should be allowed. Rolling Stone will misconstrue us anyways
...doggy winks....
Boring!
That article was boring. And old.
...people tell me that all the time...
...except it is me they are referring too....
...howls...
Let’s call it “mass theft” then. Take back control of the language
...dog turds are a great source of information...
...that is where Kamala Harris gets her speeches from...
howls...
...compelling addendum....