Like most of us here, I have family and friends who are brainwashed and who will not wake up, and some who go so far as to ridicule my "conspiracy crap" .
It's the family that hurts. I have finally given myself permission to let go of the responsibility to save them by awakening them, and leaving that in God's hands. As a human and family member, I feel a little guilt, but I feel more empowered by the freedom to focus my time and energy on finding and bonding with like-minded people rather than wasting it on hopeless cases "because they're family" .
If my family comes to me and asks for help, of course I will help them. But I will not jeopardize my ability to protect and care for those who need me to seek that one lost sheep... that's Jesus' role, and if he works through me then so be it.
I will pray for them.
But I give myself permission to let go of the responsibility, guilt and related stress. And I encourage you to consider that if you have not done so. It's unique for each of us. Just know that it is okay.
Sometimes it takes time. My old neighbor took literally 7 years to come around to 911 and admitted I was the one who originally planted the seed and he wasn’t ready to hear it. It’s a beautiful thing.
I was one asleep about 9/11...said person who told me truth was crazy..when I awakened she was the first person I called to sppoligize
Same!!
Very, very true. Its like planting a seed. We hope it grows fast, but sometimes it takes a lot of time, like 7 years. But once it comes to realization, its a wonderful thing.
Same with my brother. I'm very fortunate to have a based family. My dad, who died 9 years ago was spared this current clown world we live in
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
Luke 12:51-53 https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Luke-Chapter-12/#51
Alternatively ... You can lead a whore to culture but you can't make her think.
Freebie.
Ha! Yes, Thank you for the laugh this morning.
Just gotta plug this dope song based on that verse.
https://youtu.be/zNk-0cgh870
When covid started, and the state government said they are shutting down the churches, I was locking and loading and ready to self-muster the militia.
My friends who didn't see this as the most egregious violation of personal liberty in the history of the world are no longer my friends. I can't trust them. They'd probably turn me in for not masking up and getting vaccinated. Good riddance!
Unfortunately, that means I can only trust a handful of people to cover my back when it is time to cover my back. These are the only people I'd cover the back of, of course.
It's sad to see so many people go by the wayside, but for whatever reason, they would rather have money, power, or whatever than freedom, and so they do not share in my ideals and thus are a danger to me.
Of course, now that it is more popular to be contrary to the government, I see a lot of Johnny-come-lately's. Sorry bud, that ship has sailed. I know who you are. I know what you stand for and what you will sit down for.
That was the great gift of the COVID scam. We all know who in our own personal circle the brown-shirts are. Count it as a blessing from God.
yes, i've been watching the ones that continue getting every jab available. i have a few family/friends that took the first batch, even when i told them to hold off and wait. then when places started demanding more jabs, i seen some of them back away and say no more. i stopped talking about the VAIDS, etc., around them because i think they know they screwed up and i don't want to add to their stress of getting them.
Honestly, you're lucky to have a handful you can trust.
Indeed.
I was naive.
I am no longer.
Yep. Hubby contemplated turning in our neighbors for havinG gatherings at the beginning of covid lockdowns I was so shocked I was speechless. Definitely revealed something to me.
Thank you for sharing these tips. I've been doing the same since July of this year as well. I think that since we have planted the seed in their minds, the rest we should leave to God to move their hearts and minds through the Holy spirit to see and hear the truth.
Its one thing to do this with parents, in laws and brothers and sisters….its another thing when its your wife who was on the same page when you were married and somehow in the wake of 2020 lost her faith and became a leftist…i need your prayers
🙏 Praying for you, fren
Time to cut bait.
I cannot imagine this. Hang in there. I have prayed for you and her, and will continue to.
damn, that's rough pede. def will pray for you. i'm blessed my significant other is totally on board with us. i couldn't imagine the stress you are under. God bless you, and i pray that the Lord will open her eyes and her heart to the truth.
Hold strong and keep the faith. With God's help she can return. We are commanded to try to win our spouses over, but we were never told this responsibility would be easy. As watchman on the walls, our job is to warn of the danger coming - in love. Whether or not the warning is heeded, is upon the head of those hearing the warning. Stay right with your maker and let Him do the rest. This battle is His. Pray for her and yourself - the Father does hear! I pray brother that the Almighty Creator of the Universe give you strength, faith, peace, and endurance.
Thank you so much brother! It really does encourage me to strengthen my own faith and rely on His power not mine.
I gave up on them. They wanna sleep, stay asleep. I dont bring things up anymore
Never give up, never surrender.
Excellent! Wonderful! Full strength of the Lord.
u/#q22
Understand our role as Anons.
Be ready to keep the masses calm and re-assure them.
Exactly.
Our jobs as anons is to:
question everything
dig
think logically
spread truth as digital warriors
support each other
report for duty everyday
if one falls lift them up
help our fellow man recover in the aftermath
Take the oath if you have not already done so.
u/#q1698
u/#q34
I have and thank you for the reminder SS!
Take your Oath
Pray
if we can't talk them out of getting the jabs and wearing masks, how are we going to calm them and reassure them of anything else coming down the line?
Mine got the "updated" booster today. I guess it's time to count the days, before she...
sigh
let's pray that she's only gotten the saline, in Jesus name, we ask this.
I think only the first ones given to the early adopters were, you wouldn't want your advocates falling over dead before the ball got rolling on the rest of the sheep.
They're already dead, the "updated booster" will just hasten the process.
At some point before the great reveal, you have to realize that some people will never see the light. One of my brothers LOVES the Bushes. My husband and I have tried to explain Q, 911, The Patriot Act, etc. to no avail. He and his wife went to Kennebunkport this past summer so that he could sail past the Bush compound. They even went to the Church where the Bush family supposedly worships God. I told my husband, "Please just give it up. He will never see the light until bright LEDs are flashed into his eyeballs.".
You must still pray for them
No, we don't.
Jesus Christ, master of the metaphor, tells us to not cast pearls before swine. Was he referring to people as pigs? No, he was not. He used metaphor, parables, to speak, he had to, even back then, be careful of his teachings, as even then there were what you folks call, "glowies". He was advising his disciples and those who were awakened to him, to choose receptive people for the message of the good news. We are meant to spread the truth, but if it is not heard, we are meant to move on, and to always use discernment. We should never stop speaking the truth, but we must not invest in the outcome, or hold those we love in judgement, if they choose to reject the truth. Most people learn by experience, but in this day and age, there are so many experiences a person can have regarding the information they acquire. For every one person telling folks to not get "the jab", there are 100 more telling them, either through media or work or through society, social media. We are responsible for speaking the truth, we are not responsible for the outcome, unless of course we are speaking falsehood, which results in harm.
Imagine how the prophets of the old testament felt.
Poor Jeremiah. The “weeping” prophet.
I had to let them go as well... I didn't lose any friends over it but after all the truth started coming out loke hiding info from us for 75 years, lying about the jab not helping was created yo harm and kill us. Unlawfully mandating an unapproved experimental drug and having businesses do the demonrats dirty work was too much. Even after all that they would not acknowledge they might have been wrong. That was the last straw. It's in God's hands like everything else I trust in.
I understand. My family repeatedly ignores me and walks away. I can’t help them understand we will get our Republic back. I don’t make anything uncomfortable, but I drop hints now and them. I feel alone. Now I do my research and keep my mouth shut. I focus on the day the revelations are revealed.
i know a lot of us feel alone and why we feel blessed to have each other on this board, it helps me keep my sanity.
i've also quit talking about any of this unless i'm asked what i think about this or that. and if it gets heated, i just stop. this is also a way for evil to divide the family is to keep everyone fighting.
Thank you Anon. Very well received here. There is a point where banging our heads on the wall is self punishing and non-fruitful.
The hard part comes when we will be tempted to say “ToLd yOu sO!”
i would be way more satisficed if they would come to me and say, i am so sorry i didn't listen to you, than for me to say i told you so.
don't get me wrong, i've been so pissed that i have wanted to say i told you so, but i'm just getting tired of all of it, and just want them to wake up fight on the right/good side.
YES. I agree.
It is very similar to saving your soul. You cannot save anyone else's soul, only your own and that is your ultimate responsibility. Your vices and virtues are yours alone. That does not mean you cannot spread the good word and care for others.
Never prior to the advent of Q would I have thought I could lose my brother and best friend but it happened. I always knew being 4 years my junior that he was indoctrinated in school more than I was. I was closer to my grandfather who taught me all about communism having come from an eastern european country in his youth. When confronted with Marxist professors in college I openly argued with them in class and having read all of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's books, understood and fought back against their propaganda. As a result I graduated with the lowest GPA from that school at the absolute bottom of the class not because I was stupid, quite the opposite. It was because I was cast as "one of them". An outsider that wouldn't conform, wouldn't carry signs or march with the others for every cause du jour where warm bodies were needed for news cameras.
My brother drank the Kool-Aid and graduated with highest honors and went on to law school at UPenn where he was surrounded by more leftists. While he wasn't one to protest on the street, he did follow the rules to jettison his religion and substitute the word of God with the words printed in the NYT, WSJ and to faithfully watch CNN and listen to NPR in the car. We were able to peacefully coexist in spite of occasional jabs and barbs said mostly in jest. That is until my early curiosity in Q and the interesting puzzle that it presented.
As I awakened to a reality which was hidden in plain sight to those willing to open their eyes and expand their thinking, I was able to discern things like never before. My mistake was to share what was becoming evident to me with my brother. At first he simply hand waved it away until I made the mistake of being drawn into the date fagging and made some predictions which didn't pan out. At that point he began to comment that I was crazy and needed to see a shrink. His fall back was always the "truth" contained in MSM who he said had too much to lose if it were not so.
The final split came in a poison email he sent to me saying that he felt I had lost it, was a crazy conspiracy nut and he didn't want anything more to do with me and that I needed professional help. Since that time we have been estranged. I have reached out a few times with texts, a couple emails and even a phone call or two but received only short quick replies and nothing more. We used to speak on the phone once a week and now haven't spoken in over a year.
I'll admit I was wrong on the timing of many of Q's predictions but not on the substance. It is yet to be seen how this movie ends but I know that my brother and I will never be close again. I never understood how the Civil War in America could divide brother against brother but now I do. It would break my parents hearts if they were alive to see this happen to their only 2 sons. But it is what it is. I still love him but I am not responsible for him waking up. I don't care if he considers me stupid, backwards, uneducated, etc. At some point the fading numbers of viewers and readers of MSM will become obvious to most of his progressive friends if not to him. The truths that I hope come to light with Trump's trials, future elections and the exposure of the Clintons, Pizzagate, the cabal, etc will be inescapable but only he can connect the dots that I did years before. He can put whatever he chooses into his head. If it confilcts with reality so be it. I did what I could when I could. It would be a blessing if he picked up the phone and called me but I won't hold my breath.
My brother is in my daily prayers and I hope God heals our relationship and those of so many others who have been destroyed by the lies, deceit and injustices of our government and the propaganda of our news media, our schools, and those ever present unelected bureaucrats that try to silence, muzzle and force conformity towards vaccines, trans agendas, political ideologies and replacing God with all their evils.
First, I am so sorry about the conflict with your brother. You have so eloquently described what so many have experienced.
Second... as I said... eloquently described. You are a talented thinker and writer--that is obvious. I hope you consider making your comment its own post, and perhaps maybe even starting a series of posts that will help fellow Anons understand and navigate the complexities of this puzzle and its effect on our various relationships.
Thanks for sharing. And, if anyone can figure out what to say, when and how to say it to bridge the gap with your brother, you can. With God's grace, you will be close again.
I had no problem since they all let me go first. I am officially the weird cousin conspiracy theorist and it doesn't matter how many theories are proven fact, they still are as dumb as Balaam's ass.
The truth sets us free. The Truth of God's Word and also the truth of what is going on in our world. The whole world lieth in wickedness (1 John 5:19) takes on a whole new meaning when you understand this conspiracy stuff. It really is a spiritual thing when people's eyes are open to it. Some might just be too weak to deal and God isn't ready for them to handle it yet. I think to myself, the internet has been up almost 30 years now and I found this stuff without anyone waking me up, just a hunger for the truth of why things are so messed up. Let everyone be persuaded in their own mind writes Apostle Paul of getting people to believe the truth of the Gospel message. I think this advice applies to learning that the whole world lieth in wickedness too.
i dont agree. i feel that is my job. and will not stop. they have not seen the evil shit like anons have. we have. but i understand everyone is different. and i would hope im not alone.
You can't force them to agree with you, fren. You'll only start damaging relationships and become isolated. Even if I agree with you, I don't wanna constantly hear about all this stuff. There has to be a balance.
My sister won’t engage in anything but “happy talk- birds and gardening “ when I try to plant a red pill seed. I’m essentially censored to her - no adult discussion debate allowed! So IMO the relationship is already damaged. She claims family love for me constantly but being censored is NOT LOVE and I’ve told her such. She responds with heart emojis. Frustrating is the non engagement!,,,
You still have dialogue. Embrace the hope.
Keep the conversation light and helpful, on the things she’s into. I did this with gardening family too—ask questions, exchange recipes. Ask if she plans to can/ freeze-dry. Anything you have a shared interest in. Then send her helpful info occasionally, like this new herbicide called Grazon Next Herbicide. I had my whole Fam to convert to more organic gardening and do research once they heard of this. It makes a farmers’ pasture lush with no weeds. But the cows/horses who eat it, pass the chemical on in their manure, and when the farmer fertilizes his garden with it, the chemicals continue to kill EVERYTHING—except grass, in the soil, for up to 10 years. If you mulch your garden with Grazon hay, or Grazon manure—your garden soil becomes barren. (No need to mention conspiracy. This is a gardener’s nightmare—and will emphasize the need to be informed and research)
It doesn’t take long for (them) to see you and your digs as helpful. It encourages them to sniff around themselves. Keep the conversation light. Pray. God will open her heart.
Constantly talking to your sister about subjects she's repeatedly indicated she doesn't want to talk about isn't an indicator of love, either.
It's pushing your opinion on someone. And that's not a good thing.
I can see both sides of these replies. I don’t overwhelm w my views but is my voicing “I’m hoping that you aren’t continuing with Booster shots” too much?? ( there was no response/dialogue induced with this either) I’ve 90% gone her route of happy talk only but sometimes it bubbles out of me in ways I suppose. All thoughtful replies to my original I do appreciate.
i dont force them fren.but i dont stop trying to get them to understand.and its been working
Right?
This is the way a decent human feels. It’s frustrating and emotionally painful to see loved ones duped and harmed by the Covid scam or other BS they propagandize.
It bothers me to have a dirty house. So I clean it. I don’t just “not worry about it”.
And of course there are times when the pain gets too high and we need a break but,yeah, keep after it!
yes sir
I actually didn't say I would stop... I can never turn away from family. But I won't feel responsible anymore. There's a difference.
Wanted to share that I appreciate your sharing this. There’s some “IYKYK” around emotional health and independence on this topic. Thanks for sharing your journey, and obviously each of us is ahead of some people and behind others, and not everyone knows which is which!
its ok to be different from each other fren. i feel that i am responsible. b\c i.m aware more than them.sorry . dont really know how to word it
I don't share the real evil shit w/ family. I just try to give them a sense of hope and peace.
i dont give them all.enough bits that they understand to a point.they can see the pain on my face when im thinking about the evil.even the ones who deny or play off the info i give them. they are starting to pay att. and listen to me.and i have trouble getting my thoughts out to ppl. thats from a brain injury i had awhile back.hard to explain. i just do my best. ohh did i just slide the thread.sorry guys
I understand not being able to communicate effectively all that’s in my brain too Fren.
thanks fren. we just do are best. if i didnt and someone i love ended up being one of the lost forever - i wouldnt forgive myself
Have been doing the same thing. It is tough to do, but necessary. Strength, fren.
All you can do is plant the seed. In time, hopefully, they'll come to you when they need watered.
Yep. I've given up trying to wake up my husband. He did see the light on CV, but everything else seems so hopeless. I cannot talk about anything political or even alot of historical stuff and definitely not vaccines and big Pharma, as he has bought the propaganda entirely. He has called me crazy, he's called me a CT, he's denigrated me to the kids even telling them I am a liar when it comes to political stuff. The kids are more awake than him, but it sure hurts. He makes fun of his Amish coworkers that use natural cures etc and i just listen and have to feel sorry about the blindness. I feel like even if said natural thing doesnt cure them they still have the right to make their own decisions and not be mocked. I just have to be quiet and let God work
pol is a a lot different. I wouldn't say coming here is masochism, more like finding truth, discussing the plan, and hope via Q drops and Q+. Additionally, watching the destruction of the cabal take place.
Same here fren.
I’d recommend a sticky for this one…
I've only been moderately successful at red pilling my family... my wife and my nephew, and even my wife, as hopeful as she is, keeps saying "I'll believe it when I see it." I understand that.
As to the rest of my extended family, yeah, they are so anti-conspiracy-theory that they have become unapproachable. So all I can do now at this point is to just wait until it gets worse, take care of my own household, and be ready to explain to them what is happening and why.
On a different note, my wife and I are fitness centered. We hit the gym 5 days a week, eat right, don't smoke, I don't drink alcohol and my wife only has an occasional glass of wine, we watch our salt and sugar intake, and have boosted our natural immune systems with vitamins and supplements. Mainly we keep our weight in check. Considering our ages, we are exceptionally fit compared to our contemporaries.
But at a family dinner recently I looked around the table and I realized that a lot of support in coming days will be unnecessary, as the obesity and poor health of my family means I will probably outlive every single one of them... and I am the oldest sibling.
In life we make choices. Some make the choice to do nothing, eat junk to fill some need in their emotional makeup, and don't have the discipline to do anything about it.
this week I red pilled someone at work about 9/11 and the real reason behind covid 19.
changeagent...you have hit on one of MY PET PEEVES about family and friends...when I start talking about "WHAT COULD BE HAPPENING" I get the: "THAT'S JUST A CONSPIRACY THEORY" until the incident/news space happens...One has to be VERRRRRRRRY PATIENT....AND some of them have VERY FRAGILE EGOS...that can't stand up to the scrutiny!!!!!!
Thank you for bringing this into the discussion...I for the life of me have tried different approaches and I still hit the wall...ALSO, the "lame stream" media plays a VERY IMPORTANT role in this!!!!!!!
Yes. I do think part of it is very fragile egos! Normal folks can discuss things and agree to disagree and still be friends and have high respect for the other. Those with fragile egos get angry, slam doors, yell, give the silent treatment, etc when challenged and then no dialog happens. It's unnerving honestly.
Why would you feel responsible for their awakening in the first place?
Those of us whose parents have unmet narcissistic needs were very well trained to look out for parents’ needs and desires even ahead of our own.
(((Big hugs))) That is such a hard thing to do. Know you repeatedly tried to give them information, open their eyes, etc. Know you did all you could, until they are ready to accept the information, pray for them. You are not alone. There are many of us in your situation. It does hurt the heart.
I really appreciate your note. Thank you.
We are all in this together. We need each other and that is okay. Hang in there.
Well Said!!!
I have family that are asleep as well. I don’t spend any time trying to convince them of anything.
If they wake up. It can’t be forced. They have to wake up on their time.
Unfortunately most of the people you speak of are jabbed and it's just a matter of time for them. Don't waste your time on them because it will be in vain.
You just don't know that, so why are you speaking with such absolute certainty?
There are plenty of people who are doing fine after the vaxx & despite the high rate of adverse reactions - not everyone has had one. Many jabbers have since awakened and regretted their decision, as well.
On a side note, who tells another person not to waste helping their family members because they'll all die. Wtf dude x)
I've not had a single death among family or friends since 2018, I'm really starting to wonder just when is this vax timebomb supposed to go off. I've had 1 coworker die and we don't know how many he took.
Yeah.. I pray for my family and everyone in the world who has a time bomb inside of them.
Sad but true. My (brainwashed for multiple vax)brother got turbo cancers in 2022. Then got Covid, then hospitalized and got Remdisivir given to him at a Mayo affiliated hosp! Dead in 3 days after that! All this despite being a retired Mayo Clinic pathologist physician!!!! His wife still on the vax train. We don’t communicate since funeral.
So are we, my friend. No one gets out of life alive.
Yes, so you've said.
Uh-huh.