Medical doctors going through drug-pushing indoctrination camps are also told over and over throughout their entire "education" that natural healing is actual witch doctoring.
They're told that anything outside of the pharmaceutical industry is ineffective and will most likely harm or kill their patients.
Let's also not forget that our "pharmaceutical" industry is 100% petroleum-based. Again, thanks to (((Rockefeller))) and his Standard Oil. Asshole pushed crude oil as the solution for literally everything.
Which you would think if you’re smart enough to make it into medical school you’d wonder how humans were able to live for thousands of years before the big pharma
Bingo. Most cancers can be cured with (gasp) diet! No doctor would ever tell you that. Gotta pay $120k to get poison injected into your body that might kill your cancer for a little bit while severely diminishing your quality of whatever life you may have left. Oh well!
They take a portion of society and make them a cancer on the rest of society by making them believe that have been wronged somehow by society. They did it a few times with women and they're doing it now with black people.
Yes, because sometimes it's TRUE. Even the Rockefeller used snippets of truth to push their lies, and every time they used it to attack white Christian's.
It's like the left that always accuses the opposition of what they themselves are doing.
So if the LEFT says whites are trying to destroy everyone else, what then is the OPPOSITE of that?
I wouldn't be surprised if the Rockefellers had a hand in development of birth control. Ever since 1965, marriage rates have been declining, divorce rates are climbing, promiscuity is a given these days, and the most unhappy demographic of people is childless women over 40 that have chosen to submit to their employers instead of a good man of their choosing to be a husband.
College educated woman here raised with traditional family values.
I am all for the great awakening. I will not go back to being expected to simply be a housewife. My mother didn’t raise a a strong, free-thinking woman for her to be shoved back into a kitchen.
Q has stated that patriots are men and women. To divide us is yet another tactic for the systems we are fighting.
Its good to have the ability to earn as a resource-- the ? is, "how does my personal choice effect society?"
To be "just a housewife" expresses a qualitative view on what the profession of housewifing entails.
What if the job of housewife included lean management, teaching, medicine, junior (or senior) level handyman, researcher, community liason, executive coach (for spouse and grown chldren), therapist, nutritionist, chef, herbalist...... you get my point.
Further, I wish the guys on the thread would abstain from the word "submit". A more accurate word would be to defer on matters that he owns. Listen, let him lead and keep him out of the laundry room!
Dude here. I think after the great awakening it should be a choice whether a woman stays at home or works. I mean this is America. Isn't everyone entitled to the same freedoms to do as they please as long as it doesn't take away freedoms from others? Idk I'm a smooth brain but that's how my dumb brain sees it.
You’re free to make your choices, and I’m free to make mine. Also not trying to make a point that only a college education matters because that’s definitely not true. Trades are far more beneficial and I wish I’d had the option to learn that in high school.
Not all women will do well as mothers. A family friend—may she Rest In Peace—wound up taking in her nephew because he was going to the foster system otherwise. His mother was addicted to multiple substances, as was his father. His father/the foster mom’s brother was coddled and spoiled by their mom. Their dad was incredibly distant. The “smothered” kid wound up terrible—swindling even his own dementia-suffering mom for money in her last months of life. The “black sheep” fought for her nephew while keeping a steady job and raising her own daughters. She left this earth with multiple wonderful mom who are also nurses and teachers.
My grandfather shouldn’t have had children. He was an alcoholic after getting rejected from the priesthood. His family continues to suffer from that fallout. However, the traditional view deems him a solid “man” just because he put food on the table with the money he had left over after booze and taxes. Is that also the woman’s fault for the family’s breakdown?
I may never be able to have children. I may adopt one day, but will only do so if I know I can be financially and emotionally supportive to that child.
If simply being a mother makes you happy? Solid, go for it.
If you can handle both being a mother and being a working woman and that’s what you want? Cool, your choice.
Can’t afford children or have something else going on that you don’t want to subject them to your struggles? Seems responsible not to have them.
This isn’t an argument for abortion, btw, as I’m sure someone will take it that way
The question is, can the children really handle both parents missing from their lives? Can we afford to allow our young to be misled instead by predatory cults running our governments?
I don't disagree with you one bit -- I was simply asking the ? From a moral stance.
See my first sentence: agree with you.
Next sentence explores the effects of exercising one's rights.
I never suggested all women should be domestic engineers (my preferred term). Simply the statement "just a housewife" degrades a vocation that can be both challenging & rewarding
There have always been women working outside the home. The problem is now so many slave away at 2 jobs, few are available to provide the emotional and physical support that kept the family unit strong.
Men and women have their roles in society. Men's to lead, provide, and sacrifice. Woman's is to nurture children, support their men, and run the household. Either gender shying away from these responsibilities will lead to the collapse of society, you can already see it happening.
Men need to go into self-protection mode for a while. Stop with relationships, marriage, and children. Let the world around them crumble, then rise from the ashes to rebuild the world without so much bullshit.
If my father led our household, we would’ve been bankrupt long before now. He’s terrible at making decisions and avoids confrontation at all costs. I love the man, and he’s great at leading at work, but not so much at home.
Like I said, there are always exceptions. In general, men are far better leaders than women. I'm talking about all of society, not some random individuals.
I said I didn't want rules. The community itself should be providing peer pressure.
If a few oddballs have to "suffer" by not doing exactly as they please so that we can have a society, so be it. They would suffer a heck of a lot more if society fell apart. Then these "strong independent women" would then be at the mercy of the strongest man around and they would be begging for their evil patriarchy to come save them and restore order.
In a free country, individuals should be free to use their own talents and pursue their own dreams and ambitions, both in and out of the home.
The left, as always, takes things way too far, as they're attempting to destroy society, not uplift anyone. But society allows for a lot of flexibility and most doors should be open to both genders, so that individuals and couples can create a life that works for them and their families, which will ultimately benefit society.
Society is breaking down because we have Luciferian pedophiles in positions of power and influence doing all they can to break it down. Left to their own devices, most people will generally make more wholesome choices.
Everyone should be free legally to do as they please, but the community needs to provide pressure to follow the proper path. Those that feel the need to break out of the mold will go through the struggle to do so, but those that aren't wave makers will be shuttled down a path that's healthier for society. I feel the same thing is necessary for fat acceptance and homosexuality. I don't want tyrannical laws about this stuff, but communities should be providing the pressure to live a healthy lifestyle.
There are mothers out there with alcoholic, abusive husbands that are pulling the weight of both roles because it’s necessary for their children.
There are fathers out there working and taking their kids to school, camp, etc., because their mothers passed away.
There are women who are doctors that care for others during the day and take care of their families at night.
If I’m ever able to have children, you sure as hell better believe I’ll teach my daughters to care for others but be independent. No way I’m letting them get stuck being dependent on a deadbeat husband like my grandfather or on societal handouts.
Nothing you just said is relevant to the fact that society is built on gender roles and as more and more people abandoned them, we continue to degenerate.
There are always exceptions to the rules, but that doesn't negate the rule. If enough men or women shirk their duty, there will be no society left for your children to be "strong independent women" in. This partnership is the foundation of the family and the family is the foundation of civilization.
Families are built with strong mothers and fathers. Families where parents share responsibilities are stronger and more resilient.
Placing all of the responsibility on the mother alone leads to more familial destruction in the future.
I’m watching it happen with my own family as my mother feels incredibly disconnected from community and the world as her children grow up. She doesn’t know what to do with herself now that her role—child rearing—no longer exists. She resents my father and my family for leaving her without a place and support system because she spends so much of her life only taking care of us while my dad didn’t do much of anything except earn the money and show up for the big events.
You can be a mother and a breadwinner without being an idiot.
Well said, fren. I'm not college educated, but I've been to the school of hard knocks for sure, been working since I was 15 and have a very good career. Hard work and experience have paid off for me. Our son (11) is enrolled in a wonderful Christian school. As much as I would love the time with him to home school him, I'm not a teacher. Some people have that knack, I just don't. I would never deprive him of the wonderful Christian and patriotic education he's receiving where he is - I could never do what they're doing. We thank God every day for the fact that we found him a school full of conservatives who feel the same way we do about the current state of the world. We know he's not being indoctrinated; quite the opposite - he's never had such a great education before. He's writing in cursive! Every family is different, and I think people need to remember that. This works for us. I still cook for my family and take care of the laundry, cleaning, etc. We can do both. It's possible to bring home some bacon, fry it up in a pan, and never let my husband forget he's a man.
Thank you, fren! You’re living my dream life it seems. College is by no means a necessity and is often a mistake in today’s world—I’m sorry if it made it seem like I was trying to gloat about that. I wish I’d gone to trade school instead.
I made it out of public school with my morals intact somehow, mostly because of my parents and a few stellar teachers throughout the years. So glad your family found a solid Christian school for your son, and that you’re making things work the way you want them to work!
I’m sorry if it made it seem like I was trying to gloat about that.
Not at all!! Regardless of whether or not it was worth the money, I know college can be very hard work and if you earned a degree, you should be proud of that!
I think you're absolutely right that teaching and nurturing are two different things. When I say teaching, I mean the math, science, history, etc. that is taught to my son in school, which I'm really not qualified to do. Nurturing is a different story, and I have no worries as to my abilities there.
As to your mode comparison, I'm not so sure how beautiful or sexy it is on a woman (I wouldn't have described it that way, anyway), but I do believe that sometimes it's necessary for a woman to work outside the home and help to provide. There are those of us who can do both, and the cost of living is only going up, even if you don't have lots of luxuries like cable/satellite, streaming services, expensive vacations, pricey cars. Good food costs more vs. junk food. I work full time, but I also cook for my family and support my husband in every way possible. I'm up at 4:30 a.m. to make his coffee, pack his breakfast and make sure he has everything he needs on his way to work. He doesn't do the dishes, or the laundry, or the cooking, ever. And I don't expect him to.
And, unfortunately, there are also some women who are put in a position of having to provide; i.e. - widows, and women whose husbands took off and abandoned their families. If a woman marries a man whom she believes loves her, and will take care of her and their children, and then he decides to run off with a young blonde, never to be seen again, wouldn't that woman have to get into Mode B whether she wanted to or not? It happens. Certainly not all men are that way, but some are, and I don't think any woman knowingly signs up for something like that.
Yes, and she hated it. She had multiple jobs here and there that gave her autonomy and some space from the challenges of raising children.
She wouldn’t trade raising two kids for the world, but illness if multiple family members made her give that up, and she misses having something to call her own. Work is good and honorable, it gave her something else to accomplish and call her own.
There are. And that's wonderful; they're truly blessed if they're able to stay at home, have a good husband who makes enough for them to do so, and it's what they want to do. Everyone's different, and it's not in the cards for all women.
Women who don't work can make a big difference. My minister (a female) said, "If you ladies think men are bastards, ask yourselves who raised them." Also, the Women's Christian Temperance Union reduced the alcoholism rate in the US from 25% to 10%, which made a huge difference. Now it's time to go on the war path about drugs.
I respect that it’s not - I am not judging anyone for their decision to work either. I would just venture to note that society’s view that women can “have it all” is a lie. Somewhere there will be sacrifices made - either at home or at work. It’s a question of values and principles. One must choose - both spouses working or one staying at home.
I would agree that the "having it all" view is a misnomer. Do I "have it all"? No. Most people's definition of having it all includes a lot of material crap that I couldn't care less about. I'm not driving a new car, I'm not being taken on vacation every year, I don't have a room for all my shoes, etc. The things that matter to me are taken care of, and that's what's important. Could we get along with just my husband's income? Probably. We'd be shitting thin, though, and neither my husband nor I want to cut it that close. Then, when something happens (water heater breaks, furnace craps out in winter, etc.), you don't have the money to fix it. We live modestly but comfortably. We have no car payments, not a lot of debt (nothing I couldn't pay off at the drop of a hat), and we live within our means. So I don't really think that fits the definition of "having it all" that most would hold in this society.
I’m not trying to drag them in the mud. What they do is incredible. If it fulfills them, that’s what matters.
My brain goes haywire if it doesn’t have something cognitively challenging to do. I wouldn’t be happy just staying at home.
That’s all I’m saying—that lumping all women into one category and saying that’s their only option and what they SHOULD do is just as ludicrous as mandating everyone get vaccinated.
Nothing in life is one size fits all—aside from accepting Jesus as your savior if you’re Christian. Even then, your relationship with God is yours and yours alone.
Everyone makes the choices that they think are best for their individual families. I don’t see women being “lumped” back into being stay-at-home moms anytime soon, so if I were you I wouldn’t worry about that at all. This world is going downhill fast and the NWO wants moms (and dads) away from their kids so that they can work more than anyone else. In the 80’s women/moms were pushed into the workforce in record numbers and they were lied to about formula being better for one’s baby than breastmilk. Nowadays, many women are beginning to wake up. But many women are also coming to the sad realization that they couldn’t afford their lifestyles, homes, food on the table if they don’t contribute to the household income either. We “little” people do the best we can with what we’ve got. But I think it’s safe to say that the world controllers do not want the best for us “feeders.”
lumping all women into one category and saying that’s their only option and what they SHOULD do is just as ludicrous as mandating everyone get vaccinated
BRAVO!!!! I could not have said that better myself!
No sarcasm. (Real) Men think with logic and reason. Women do otherwise. (Most) Men fight to resolve differences. (Most) Women manipulate to control weaker males. Western society has been feminized and will fall to those societies (china, muslim, etc) which value the masculine. It is 'inevitable' as someone once said.
Women are perfectly capable of thinking with logic and reason. And I get that this is not the case with every woman, just as it's not the case with every man. Consider in your calculations all the soyboys that are running around acting like a bunch of fucking pansies these days. That's not logical or reasonable.
I'm not going to cite any exceptions or examples of anything. Your mind is obviously made up. I'll just say this: whatever woman hurt you the way she did to make you feel this way about all women, I hope for your sake you're done with her. You obviously don't have any good women in your life if that's how you really think.
Wow. For a counselor, you sure are an angry person. The way you were talking certainly seemed like you were not only a man, but a cave man. So make of that what you will.
I'm not a millennial. My daughter is a millennial. I'm Gen X, check my handle. I also carry no affiliation with any kind of liberal thinktank, so that's just a lot of assuming on your part. Get over yourself, you don't know everything (despite your evident beliefs otherwise).
And your statements are anything but facts. Generalizations would be a more accurate term. And the funny thing about women who need counseling is that they usually are the overly emotional ones. That's why they need counseling.
So then you haven't been hurt, and you're not a man. You're a counselor of overly emotional women, and so you make your judgments about women overall based on the cross section that you encounter daily. Not exactly scientific.
If you were a criminal defense attorney, then you would assume everyone was a criminal I suppose. Whatever.
Regarding your point about soyboys: You are absolutely correct. The reason we have a western world full of soi's is directly because of the feminization of the man + the destruction of the family unit, started decades ago.
There was a Sci-Fi book that I read a long time ago (might have been by Philip K Dick), about how everyone was fighting each other all the time. Black v White, men v women etc.,. One of the character asks who they're fighting today. Wish I could remember more of it. Like the title, that would be nice...
Aaron Russo exposed this in his video "America Freedom to Fascism". Nelson Rockefeller tried to recruit him into the anti-human cult, and told him that feminism was a ploy.
bankers are in control of culture, medicine, they're behind all wars, famine, and choose what is put in our history books and what is spewed out of our media. Bankers basically have control of every aspect of our lives, this small group of elites that own all of the worlds wealth are the root of all problems the world currently faces.
There is a 20/20 interview with one of the sons and they say it plainly, " we invented it, half of the population was not in the workforce" If someone knows where this clip is please post it.
Educations goal is to give people egos and take away their common sense and logic. A woman’s role is to be a mother and wife, not a career driven individual. The biggest mistake in the western world was giving the women the right to vote.
Actually, it was created much earlier, but probably by the same people, but before the Rockefeller Foundation was created. If you go back and look at art, movies, books, there was a deliberate move since back in the end of the 19th century to convince women that there was no fate on earth worse than being JUST a housewife and mother. A wife was just an extension of her husband. She had no identity of her own. I think it's very telling that one of the big pushes in the 70s and 80s, just as we were moving into the new all-fiat currency world once Nixon took us completely off the gold standard, was for women (who were now establishing their own careers) to develop a credit history. We were encouraged to go out and get a credit card so we could develop our own credit history. It was like you didn't exist if you didn't have a credit history. At the time, none of us dreamed that we would one day be carrying the enormous debt loads that most of us do these days. We didn't realize at the time that we were being encouraged to voluntarily report ourselves to the financial tracking database. But if you look back over the 20th century, you can see that there was a deliberate program carried out to convince women that they wanted anything other than a traditional woman's role.
"Torches of Freedom" was a phrase used to encourage women's smoking by exploiting women's aspirations for a better life during the early twentieth century first-wave feminism in the United States. Cigarettes were described as symbols of emancipation and equality with men. The term was first used by psychoanalyst A. A. Brill when describing the natural desire for women to smoke and was used by Edward Bernays to encourage women to smoke in public despite social taboos. Bernays hired women to march while smoking their "torches of freedom" in the Easter Sunday Parade of 31 March 1929,[1] which was a significant moment for fighting social barriers for women smokers.
I have heard it was created by others besides the wokafellas, it surfaced in Europe at the same time it did in the USA.
Responsibility for this was placed onto the Fabian Society, the abomination that was/is French philosophy and various schools of psychology/psychiatry such as the murderous Tavistock Institute.
Just because something was part of the Luciferians plan to enslave the planet doesn't mean every decision they made was bad. You can't get to equity without going through equality first. Every tool that has been used for evil purposes was designed to be a tool first, and applied to evil after.
It's our world. We get to decide what is good and bad. We mustn't discard our entire history just because of the taint of evil. We must learn to embrace it, decide for ourselves what is good and what is bad.
I think equal opportunity is one of the greatest ideas ever. I'll fight tooth and nail not to lose that. Every opportunity should be afforded to everyone, all through their lives. That is imo an ideal society, something to strive for. In a world with our technology, such a world should be easy to achieve.
Succeed or fail at an opportunity should be up to the individual. Failure and success need to mean what they mean, but there should always be more opportunity.
We should strive to become a true "land of opportunity". Not a contrivance, or controlled opportunity, but a free market of ideas , with enough opportunity and difficulties (i.e. true competition, with a cost to failure) that every person can figure out their own strengths.
This is absolutely correct. Allow me to elaborate. Women voting was a bad idea. They overwhelmingly vote Democrat. Why? Women are creatures of emotion, just think of all the tactics they use that play off of motion. Obviously not all women but still the majority.
When women were brought into the workforce it drove down wages and made it extremely difficult over time to support a family on a single income. It also took women away from their children and into public indoctrination centers they went. Colleges are an extension of this. They encourage feminism and sexual liberation. All of this during the most fertile years of her life when her value as a mate is the highest. During this time many young women are partying and sleeping around as much as they can.
Now, there are very few good women left. Even most Christian women self identify as feminists. Feminism along with Instagram and other dating apps especially, have made the vast majority of young women hypergamous. They are no longer worthy of marriage.
In a time when courts unanimously side with women even when it is the woman's fault the man pays. The horror stories are endless. Divorce is so commonplace and despite what the courts say hypergamous women are to blame.
Women are the selectors of our species. They now have so many options and their attention spans have gotten so short they will jump from one guy to the next. Wracking up absurd body counts. Sleeping with over a hundred men is way more common than any woman will admit. They lose the ability to bond to their mate. Then when they eventually decide they want the security and stability of a family. It's too late.
Men are dropping out of the dating pool in droves. It just isn't worth it. The ones that do date don't commit. So you end up with all these crazy feminists chasing after a few guys that won't give them the time of day. It makes everyone worse off.
They have nearly completed the destruction of the nuclear family.
I never saw this as a divide and conquer. I do think that women should have equal rights, equal pay, and treated equally in society. I don't think both people in a household should have to work. Women are equally placed in work slavery while children are often raised by the cheapest option.
Agreed. And we all played a part as we moved away from God, ignored those women who were truly wronged, allowed hedonism to become normal....it spread like cancer.
Anyone remember the "enjoli" commercials from the 70s? "I can bring home the bacon, fry it up in a pan, & never ....."
I've mentioned this story before. When I was in (a very liberal) college, I mentioned as one of my life goals wanting to have a husband and family and I wanted to stay home with my children. You'd think I announced I wanted to torture puppies and run over sweet little old ladies for sport.
When I pointed out that feminism was supposed to be about ladies having the power to choose, and my choice would be to have and care for my family, their brains exploded. That was (just one) of my very big 'aha moments' concerning the liberal hypocrisy while at school.
Yes, and they made wages equal by raising womens while cutting mens. So now women have to work. Women are too easily led astray with feelings. Not all the women saying (not me), then I am not talking to you but I bet you know someone like this, right? Personally I would pick a smart woman any day over a sheeple dumb ass.
It takes a tough woman to approach the bullshit straight on. Some can do it but not enough in my opinion. Too many just join the side they think has them most people. Women feel more empowered with numbers, but they need to be more selective on who they follow.
Accomplished many things: destroy nuclear family by requiring both partners to have jobs to sustain comfortable livingn, double the workforce thus stagnating wages, emasculate men with female bosses, take away male “on the hunt” camaraderie in the office and fire men who do not submit to female bosses and coworkers, get kids into government schools earlier, trap women in a “you can’t have it all mindset” where they have to choose between financial independence or having a family, encouraged sexual promiscuity because being married was no longer the best way to have sex because you could just sleep with the career woman. I have to tip my cap to them. Their plan was brilliant.
Producer Aaron Russo (Trading Places) became friends with Nick Rockefeller and he told him that. This is a 10 minute clip from Alex Jones interview with him for Freedom To Fascism. It's well worth watching in full, but this clip will tell you what you want to know (poor quality though).
(Gloria Steinham often boasted that the CIA helped fund her feminist magazine as well (Cosmopolitan I think?) - lol she thought they supported women's struggle.)
Medical doctors going through drug-pushing indoctrination camps are also told over and over throughout their entire "education" that natural healing is actual witch doctoring.
They're told that anything outside of the pharmaceutical industry is ineffective and will most likely harm or kill their patients.
Let's not forget our "education" system that is all thanks to the same Rockefeller Foundation.
Let's also not forget that our "pharmaceutical" industry is 100% petroleum-based. Again, thanks to (((Rockefeller))) and his Standard Oil. Asshole pushed crude oil as the solution for literally everything.
Which you would think if you’re smart enough to make it into medical school you’d wonder how humans were able to live for thousands of years before the big pharma
With all of the "Diversity requirements" I'm not sure you have to be very smart.
Bingo. Most cancers can be cured with (gasp) diet! No doctor would ever tell you that. Gotta pay $120k to get poison injected into your body that might kill your cancer for a little bit while severely diminishing your quality of whatever life you may have left. Oh well!
Law is bullshit. Our justice system is non-existent. Judges are tyrants in black robes.
Came here to say this.
They take a portion of society and make them a cancer on the rest of society by making them believe that have been wronged somehow by society. They did it a few times with women and they're doing it now with black people.
Guess who created the NAACP and the Anti Defamation League?
(((tiny hat tribe)))
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ADL is an absolute joke, they call any pepe variant a "white nationalist" symbol LOL
Oh my aunt, a product of the 60s college indoctrination in California believes that while-heartedly.
Except women in the west were happier before feminism came into the picture.
Yes, because sometimes it's TRUE. Even the Rockefeller used snippets of truth to push their lies, and every time they used it to attack white Christian's.
It's like the left that always accuses the opposition of what they themselves are doing.
So if the LEFT says whites are trying to destroy everyone else, what then is the OPPOSITE of that?
I wouldn't be surprised if the Rockefellers had a hand in development of birth control. Ever since 1965, marriage rates have been declining, divorce rates are climbing, promiscuity is a given these days, and the most unhappy demographic of people is childless women over 40 that have chosen to submit to their employers instead of a good man of their choosing to be a husband.
One of the harder redpills for people to swallow.
College educated woman here raised with traditional family values.
I am all for the great awakening. I will not go back to being expected to simply be a housewife. My mother didn’t raise a a strong, free-thinking woman for her to be shoved back into a kitchen.
Q has stated that patriots are men and women. To divide us is yet another tactic for the systems we are fighting.
College educated here too. Masters and PhD.
Its good to have the ability to earn as a resource-- the ? is, "how does my personal choice effect society?"
To be "just a housewife" expresses a qualitative view on what the profession of housewifing entails.
What if the job of housewife included lean management, teaching, medicine, junior (or senior) level handyman, researcher, community liason, executive coach (for spouse and grown chldren), therapist, nutritionist, chef, herbalist...... you get my point.
Further, I wish the guys on the thread would abstain from the word "submit". A more accurate word would be to defer on matters that he owns. Listen, let him lead and keep him out of the laundry room!
Dude here. I think after the great awakening it should be a choice whether a woman stays at home or works. I mean this is America. Isn't everyone entitled to the same freedoms to do as they please as long as it doesn't take away freedoms from others? Idk I'm a smooth brain but that's how my dumb brain sees it.
No argument here! Each person chooses on this issue.
If I couldn't work i would have been stuck in an abusive relationship.
The ? Is: why do you work? For stuff? To serve the family? To serve God? What are the consequences of those choices?
When you are clear on the Why, the decision about whether it is selfish, selfless, or a reasonable middle ground becomes clear.
And stop with the accommodations at work for being a Mom or being female! That really drives me nuts :)
You’re free to make your choices, and I’m free to make mine. Also not trying to make a point that only a college education matters because that’s definitely not true. Trades are far more beneficial and I wish I’d had the option to learn that in high school.
Not all women will do well as mothers. A family friend—may she Rest In Peace—wound up taking in her nephew because he was going to the foster system otherwise. His mother was addicted to multiple substances, as was his father. His father/the foster mom’s brother was coddled and spoiled by their mom. Their dad was incredibly distant. The “smothered” kid wound up terrible—swindling even his own dementia-suffering mom for money in her last months of life. The “black sheep” fought for her nephew while keeping a steady job and raising her own daughters. She left this earth with multiple wonderful mom who are also nurses and teachers.
My grandfather shouldn’t have had children. He was an alcoholic after getting rejected from the priesthood. His family continues to suffer from that fallout. However, the traditional view deems him a solid “man” just because he put food on the table with the money he had left over after booze and taxes. Is that also the woman’s fault for the family’s breakdown?
I may never be able to have children. I may adopt one day, but will only do so if I know I can be financially and emotionally supportive to that child.
If simply being a mother makes you happy? Solid, go for it.
If you can handle both being a mother and being a working woman and that’s what you want? Cool, your choice.
Can’t afford children or have something else going on that you don’t want to subject them to your struggles? Seems responsible not to have them.
This isn’t an argument for abortion, btw, as I’m sure someone will take it that way
The question is, can the children really handle both parents missing from their lives? Can we afford to allow our young to be misled instead by predatory cults running our governments?
I don't disagree with you one bit -- I was simply asking the ? From a moral stance.
See my first sentence: agree with you. Next sentence explores the effects of exercising one's rights.
I never suggested all women should be domestic engineers (my preferred term). Simply the statement "just a housewife" degrades a vocation that can be both challenging & rewarding
There have always been women working outside the home. The problem is now so many slave away at 2 jobs, few are available to provide the emotional and physical support that kept the family unit strong.
Blessings to you.
If humanity had waited until economic conditions were right to have children we wouldn't be here, we would have died out a very long time ago.
Then what is the truth
Portuguese woman, that explains how great this post it.
Men and women have their roles in society. Men's to lead, provide, and sacrifice. Woman's is to nurture children, support their men, and run the household. Either gender shying away from these responsibilities will lead to the collapse of society, you can already see it happening.
Men need to go into self-protection mode for a while. Stop with relationships, marriage, and children. Let the world around them crumble, then rise from the ashes to rebuild the world without so much bullshit.
If my father led our household, we would’ve been bankrupt long before now. He’s terrible at making decisions and avoids confrontation at all costs. I love the man, and he’s great at leading at work, but not so much at home.
Like I said, there are always exceptions. In general, men are far better leaders than women. I'm talking about all of society, not some random individuals.
And I’m arguing that those exceptions shouldn’t suffer because of the rule you want to impose.
I said I didn't want rules. The community itself should be providing peer pressure.
If a few oddballs have to "suffer" by not doing exactly as they please so that we can have a society, so be it. They would suffer a heck of a lot more if society fell apart. Then these "strong independent women" would then be at the mercy of the strongest man around and they would be begging for their evil patriarchy to come save them and restore order.
You can kindly fuck right off with promoting peer pressure.
In a free country, individuals should be free to use their own talents and pursue their own dreams and ambitions, both in and out of the home.
The left, as always, takes things way too far, as they're attempting to destroy society, not uplift anyone. But society allows for a lot of flexibility and most doors should be open to both genders, so that individuals and couples can create a life that works for them and their families, which will ultimately benefit society.
Society is breaking down because we have Luciferian pedophiles in positions of power and influence doing all they can to break it down. Left to their own devices, most people will generally make more wholesome choices.
Everyone should be free legally to do as they please, but the community needs to provide pressure to follow the proper path. Those that feel the need to break out of the mold will go through the struggle to do so, but those that aren't wave makers will be shuttled down a path that's healthier for society. I feel the same thing is necessary for fat acceptance and homosexuality. I don't want tyrannical laws about this stuff, but communities should be providing the pressure to live a healthy lifestyle.
Do as you will is a luciferian concept.
There are mothers out there with alcoholic, abusive husbands that are pulling the weight of both roles because it’s necessary for their children.
There are fathers out there working and taking their kids to school, camp, etc., because their mothers passed away.
There are women who are doctors that care for others during the day and take care of their families at night.
If I’m ever able to have children, you sure as hell better believe I’ll teach my daughters to care for others but be independent. No way I’m letting them get stuck being dependent on a deadbeat husband like my grandfather or on societal handouts.
Nothing you just said is relevant to the fact that society is built on gender roles and as more and more people abandoned them, we continue to degenerate.
There are always exceptions to the rules, but that doesn't negate the rule. If enough men or women shirk their duty, there will be no society left for your children to be "strong independent women" in. This partnership is the foundation of the family and the family is the foundation of civilization.
Families are built with strong mothers and fathers. Families where parents share responsibilities are stronger and more resilient.
Placing all of the responsibility on the mother alone leads to more familial destruction in the future.
I’m watching it happen with my own family as my mother feels incredibly disconnected from community and the world as her children grow up. She doesn’t know what to do with herself now that her role—child rearing—no longer exists. She resents my father and my family for leaving her without a place and support system because she spends so much of her life only taking care of us while my dad didn’t do much of anything except earn the money and show up for the big events.
You can be a mother and a breadwinner without being an idiot.
Well said, fren. I'm not college educated, but I've been to the school of hard knocks for sure, been working since I was 15 and have a very good career. Hard work and experience have paid off for me. Our son (11) is enrolled in a wonderful Christian school. As much as I would love the time with him to home school him, I'm not a teacher. Some people have that knack, I just don't. I would never deprive him of the wonderful Christian and patriotic education he's receiving where he is - I could never do what they're doing. We thank God every day for the fact that we found him a school full of conservatives who feel the same way we do about the current state of the world. We know he's not being indoctrinated; quite the opposite - he's never had such a great education before. He's writing in cursive! Every family is different, and I think people need to remember that. This works for us. I still cook for my family and take care of the laundry, cleaning, etc. We can do both. It's possible to bring home some bacon, fry it up in a pan, and never let my husband forget he's a man.
Thank you, fren! You’re living my dream life it seems. College is by no means a necessity and is often a mistake in today’s world—I’m sorry if it made it seem like I was trying to gloat about that. I wish I’d gone to trade school instead.
I made it out of public school with my morals intact somehow, mostly because of my parents and a few stellar teachers throughout the years. So glad your family found a solid Christian school for your son, and that you’re making things work the way you want them to work!
Not at all!! Regardless of whether or not it was worth the money, I know college can be very hard work and if you earned a degree, you should be proud of that!
I think you're absolutely right that teaching and nurturing are two different things. When I say teaching, I mean the math, science, history, etc. that is taught to my son in school, which I'm really not qualified to do. Nurturing is a different story, and I have no worries as to my abilities there.
As to your mode comparison, I'm not so sure how beautiful or sexy it is on a woman (I wouldn't have described it that way, anyway), but I do believe that sometimes it's necessary for a woman to work outside the home and help to provide. There are those of us who can do both, and the cost of living is only going up, even if you don't have lots of luxuries like cable/satellite, streaming services, expensive vacations, pricey cars. Good food costs more vs. junk food. I work full time, but I also cook for my family and support my husband in every way possible. I'm up at 4:30 a.m. to make his coffee, pack his breakfast and make sure he has everything he needs on his way to work. He doesn't do the dishes, or the laundry, or the cooking, ever. And I don't expect him to.
And, unfortunately, there are also some women who are put in a position of having to provide; i.e. - widows, and women whose husbands took off and abandoned their families. If a woman marries a man whom she believes loves her, and will take care of her and their children, and then he decides to run off with a young blonde, never to be seen again, wouldn't that woman have to get into Mode B whether she wanted to or not? It happens. Certainly not all men are that way, but some are, and I don't think any woman knowingly signs up for something like that.
:) thanks, I do my best! God bless you & your family too!
Was your mum “simply a housewife”?
Yes, and she hated it. She had multiple jobs here and there that gave her autonomy and some space from the challenges of raising children.
She wouldn’t trade raising two kids for the world, but illness if multiple family members made her give that up, and she misses having something to call her own. Work is good and honorable, it gave her something else to accomplish and call her own.
There’s a lot of highly educated, strong, free-thinking stay-at-home moms that like to cook too, FYI!
There are. And that's wonderful; they're truly blessed if they're able to stay at home, have a good husband who makes enough for them to do so, and it's what they want to do. Everyone's different, and it's not in the cards for all women.
Women who don't work can make a big difference. My minister (a female) said, "If you ladies think men are bastards, ask yourselves who raised them." Also, the Women's Christian Temperance Union reduced the alcoholism rate in the US from 25% to 10%, which made a huge difference. Now it's time to go on the war path about drugs.
Where did the decades-long "war on drugs" get us?
I respect that it’s not - I am not judging anyone for their decision to work either. I would just venture to note that society’s view that women can “have it all” is a lie. Somewhere there will be sacrifices made - either at home or at work. It’s a question of values and principles. One must choose - both spouses working or one staying at home.
I would agree that the "having it all" view is a misnomer. Do I "have it all"? No. Most people's definition of having it all includes a lot of material crap that I couldn't care less about. I'm not driving a new car, I'm not being taken on vacation every year, I don't have a room for all my shoes, etc. The things that matter to me are taken care of, and that's what's important. Could we get along with just my husband's income? Probably. We'd be shitting thin, though, and neither my husband nor I want to cut it that close. Then, when something happens (water heater breaks, furnace craps out in winter, etc.), you don't have the money to fix it. We live modestly but comfortably. We have no car payments, not a lot of debt (nothing I couldn't pay off at the drop of a hat), and we live within our means. So I don't really think that fits the definition of "having it all" that most would hold in this society.
Good for you guys. I think it’s all by design that it’s nearly impossible for a family to live on a father’s income alone anymore.
Mortar
Pestle
Olive oil
Garlic
Basil
Pine nuts
Grana Padano
Pecorino Romano
Salt & Pepper
…It is I who have it all frens!
I’m not trying to drag them in the mud. What they do is incredible. If it fulfills them, that’s what matters.
My brain goes haywire if it doesn’t have something cognitively challenging to do. I wouldn’t be happy just staying at home.
That’s all I’m saying—that lumping all women into one category and saying that’s their only option and what they SHOULD do is just as ludicrous as mandating everyone get vaccinated.
Nothing in life is one size fits all—aside from accepting Jesus as your savior if you’re Christian. Even then, your relationship with God is yours and yours alone.
Everyone makes the choices that they think are best for their individual families. I don’t see women being “lumped” back into being stay-at-home moms anytime soon, so if I were you I wouldn’t worry about that at all. This world is going downhill fast and the NWO wants moms (and dads) away from their kids so that they can work more than anyone else. In the 80’s women/moms were pushed into the workforce in record numbers and they were lied to about formula being better for one’s baby than breastmilk. Nowadays, many women are beginning to wake up. But many women are also coming to the sad realization that they couldn’t afford their lifestyles, homes, food on the table if they don’t contribute to the household income either. We “little” people do the best we can with what we’ve got. But I think it’s safe to say that the world controllers do not want the best for us “feeders.”
BRAVO!!!! I could not have said that better myself!
Yep. All our societal issues can be traced back to women.
Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but there is plenty of blame to go around for both sexes.
No sarcasm. (Real) Men think with logic and reason. Women do otherwise. (Most) Men fight to resolve differences. (Most) Women manipulate to control weaker males. Western society has been feminized and will fall to those societies (china, muslim, etc) which value the masculine. It is 'inevitable' as someone once said.
Women are perfectly capable of thinking with logic and reason. And I get that this is not the case with every woman, just as it's not the case with every man. Consider in your calculations all the soyboys that are running around acting like a bunch of fucking pansies these days. That's not logical or reasonable.
I'm not going to cite any exceptions or examples of anything. Your mind is obviously made up. I'll just say this: whatever woman hurt you the way she did to make you feel this way about all women, I hope for your sake you're done with her. You obviously don't have any good women in your life if that's how you really think.
Wow. For a counselor, you sure are an angry person. The way you were talking certainly seemed like you were not only a man, but a cave man. So make of that what you will.
I'm not a millennial. My daughter is a millennial. I'm Gen X, check my handle. I also carry no affiliation with any kind of liberal thinktank, so that's just a lot of assuming on your part. Get over yourself, you don't know everything (despite your evident beliefs otherwise).
And your statements are anything but facts. Generalizations would be a more accurate term. And the funny thing about women who need counseling is that they usually are the overly emotional ones. That's why they need counseling.
So then you haven't been hurt, and you're not a man. You're a counselor of overly emotional women, and so you make your judgments about women overall based on the cross section that you encounter daily. Not exactly scientific.
If you were a criminal defense attorney, then you would assume everyone was a criminal I suppose. Whatever.
Regarding your point about soyboys: You are absolutely correct. The reason we have a western world full of soi's is directly because of the feminization of the man + the destruction of the family unit, started decades ago.
The blame lies with Adam for listening to his wife.
Well Eve tempted Adam with an apple,
But im not going for that!
Im going for your Pink Cadillac!
Yet another "Divide and Rule" tactic, pitting men against women.
There was a Sci-Fi book that I read a long time ago (might have been by Philip K Dick), about how everyone was fighting each other all the time. Black v White, men v women etc.,. One of the character asks who they're fighting today. Wish I could remember more of it. Like the title, that would be nice...
This was explained in Aaron Russo's documentary, America: Freedom to Fascism
Aaron Russo exposed this in his video "America Freedom to Fascism". Nelson Rockefeller tried to recruit him into the anti-human cult, and told him that feminism was a ploy.
This is just the surface...
https://www.bitchute.com/video/QtLvxZ9d0yEY/
bankers are in control of culture, medicine, they're behind all wars, famine, and choose what is put in our history books and what is spewed out of our media. Bankers basically have control of every aspect of our lives, this small group of elites that own all of the worlds wealth are the root of all problems the world currently faces.
Notable and Proud Feminist:
Bella Abzug (1920–1998)[1] Kathy Acker Chantal Akerman Gloria Allred (Born 1941) Shulamit Aloni Eleanor Antin Franciszka Arnsztajnowa Oreet Ashery Adina Bar-Shalom Pauline Bebe Louisa Bertman Hanne Blank Lisa Bloom Judy Blume Susan Bordo Kate Bornstein Daniel Boyarin Susan Brownmiller (Born 1935) Judith Butler Claude Cahun Aviva Cantor Nina Beth Cardin Naomi Chazan Phyllis Chesler Judy Chicago Hélène Cixous Hedwig Dohm Andrea Dworkin Amy Eilberg Sandy Eisenberg Sasso Eve Ensler Jane Evans Susan Faludi Rachel Kohl Finegold Shulamith Firestone Marcia Freedman Betty Friedan (1921–2006) Debbie Friedman Zehava Gal-On Sarah Michelle Gellar Tavi Gevinson Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1933–2020) Ilana Gliechbloom Emma Goldman Elyse Goldstein Lynn Gottlieb Blu Greenberg Tina Grimberg Daphna Hacker Ruth Halperin-Kaddari Jack Halberstam Charlotte Haldane Nina Hartley Tova Hartman Judith Hauptman Dorothy Ray Healey Diana Mara Henry Judith Lewis Herman Susannah Heschel Eva Hesse Anat Hoffman Brenda Howard Sara Hurwitz Paula Hyman Beba Idelson Tal Ilan Elfriede Jelinek Erica Jong Elana Kagan Roberta Kalechofsky Belda Kaufman Lindenbaum Michael Kimmel Melanie Klein Naomi Klein Gilah Kletenik Edith Konecky Anna Kuliscioff Michele Landsberg Paulina Lebl-Albala Lori Hope Lefkovitz Gerda Lerner Aurora Levins Morales Amy-Jill Levine Ariel Levy Fanny Lewald Rosa Luxemburg Frederica Sagor Maas Ruchama Marton Henriette May Hana Meisel Annie Nathan Meyer Selma Meyer Merav Michaeli Robin Morgan Cheryl Moch Haviva Ner-David Martha Nussbaum Margit Oelsner-Baumatz Rose Pastor Stokes Judith Plaskow Letty Cottin Pogrebin Rachel Pollack Griselda Pollock Katha Pollitt Virginia Postrel Sally Priesand Lydia Rabinowitsch-Kempner Yvonne Rainer Ruth Rasnic Avital Ronell Rachel Rosenthal Tamar Ross Muriel Rukeyser Danya Ruttenberg Nina Salaman Zalman Schachter-Shalomi Miriam Schapiro Rosika Schwimmer Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick Alice Shalvi Mendel Shapiro Ella Shohat Sheila Shulman Kaja Silverman Joan Snyder Susan Sontag Daniel Sperber Annie Sprinkle Gertrude Stein Gloria Steinem (Born 1934) Sandra Steingraber Estelle Sternberger (1886–1971) Elana Maryles Sztokman Meredith Tax Yona Wallach Rebecca Walker Wendy Wasserstein Trude Weiss-Rosmarin Naomi Weisstein Hannah Wilke Naomi Wolf Tamar Zandberg Laurie Penny
There is another common denominator.
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Feminism also pushed HARD the idea that murdering your unborn child is among your God-given rights.
There is a 20/20 interview with one of the sons and they say it plainly, " we invented it, half of the population was not in the workforce" If someone knows where this clip is please post it.
Exactly, it is very difficult to raise a very strong family unit with BOTH parents working, this is all by design.
Educations goal is to give people egos and take away their common sense and logic. A woman’s role is to be a mother and wife, not a career driven individual. The biggest mistake in the western world was giving the women the right to vote.
Women never should have been allowed to vote.
Gloria Steinem was CIA “before” feminist. Does anyone ever leave the CIA? Thoughts unrelated.
Actually, it was created much earlier, but probably by the same people, but before the Rockefeller Foundation was created. If you go back and look at art, movies, books, there was a deliberate move since back in the end of the 19th century to convince women that there was no fate on earth worse than being JUST a housewife and mother. A wife was just an extension of her husband. She had no identity of her own. I think it's very telling that one of the big pushes in the 70s and 80s, just as we were moving into the new all-fiat currency world once Nixon took us completely off the gold standard, was for women (who were now establishing their own careers) to develop a credit history. We were encouraged to go out and get a credit card so we could develop our own credit history. It was like you didn't exist if you didn't have a credit history. At the time, none of us dreamed that we would one day be carrying the enormous debt loads that most of us do these days. We didn't realize at the time that we were being encouraged to voluntarily report ourselves to the financial tracking database. But if you look back over the 20th century, you can see that there was a deliberate program carried out to convince women that they wanted anything other than a traditional woman's role.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torches_of_Freedom
"Torches of Freedom" was a phrase used to encourage women's smoking by exploiting women's aspirations for a better life during the early twentieth century first-wave feminism in the United States. Cigarettes were described as symbols of emancipation and equality with men. The term was first used by psychoanalyst A. A. Brill when describing the natural desire for women to smoke and was used by Edward Bernays to encourage women to smoke in public despite social taboos. Bernays hired women to march while smoking their "torches of freedom" in the Easter Sunday Parade of 31 March 1929,[1] which was a significant moment for fighting social barriers for women smokers.
Now do the 19th amendment
I have heard it was created by others besides the wokafellas, it surfaced in Europe at the same time it did in the USA.
Responsibility for this was placed onto the Fabian Society, the abomination that was/is French philosophy and various schools of psychology/psychiatry such as the murderous Tavistock Institute.
Just because something was part of the Luciferians plan to enslave the planet doesn't mean every decision they made was bad. You can't get to equity without going through equality first. Every tool that has been used for evil purposes was designed to be a tool first, and applied to evil after.
It's our world. We get to decide what is good and bad. We mustn't discard our entire history just because of the taint of evil. We must learn to embrace it, decide for ourselves what is good and what is bad.
I think equal opportunity is one of the greatest ideas ever. I'll fight tooth and nail not to lose that. Every opportunity should be afforded to everyone, all through their lives. That is imo an ideal society, something to strive for. In a world with our technology, such a world should be easy to achieve.
Succeed or fail at an opportunity should be up to the individual. Failure and success need to mean what they mean, but there should always be more opportunity.
We should strive to become a true "land of opportunity". Not a contrivance, or controlled opportunity, but a free market of ideas , with enough opportunity and difficulties (i.e. true competition, with a cost to failure) that every person can figure out their own strengths.
This is absolutely correct. Allow me to elaborate. Women voting was a bad idea. They overwhelmingly vote Democrat. Why? Women are creatures of emotion, just think of all the tactics they use that play off of motion. Obviously not all women but still the majority.
When women were brought into the workforce it drove down wages and made it extremely difficult over time to support a family on a single income. It also took women away from their children and into public indoctrination centers they went. Colleges are an extension of this. They encourage feminism and sexual liberation. All of this during the most fertile years of her life when her value as a mate is the highest. During this time many young women are partying and sleeping around as much as they can.
Now, there are very few good women left. Even most Christian women self identify as feminists. Feminism along with Instagram and other dating apps especially, have made the vast majority of young women hypergamous. They are no longer worthy of marriage.
In a time when courts unanimously side with women even when it is the woman's fault the man pays. The horror stories are endless. Divorce is so commonplace and despite what the courts say hypergamous women are to blame.
Women are the selectors of our species. They now have so many options and their attention spans have gotten so short they will jump from one guy to the next. Wracking up absurd body counts. Sleeping with over a hundred men is way more common than any woman will admit. They lose the ability to bond to their mate. Then when they eventually decide they want the security and stability of a family. It's too late.
Men are dropping out of the dating pool in droves. It just isn't worth it. The ones that do date don't commit. So you end up with all these crazy feminists chasing after a few guys that won't give them the time of day. It makes everyone worse off.
They have nearly completed the destruction of the nuclear family.
I never saw this as a divide and conquer. I do think that women should have equal rights, equal pay, and treated equally in society. I don't think both people in a household should have to work. Women are equally placed in work slavery while children are often raised by the cheapest option.
Women are the most importan people in society, a household with a loving mother makes a strong family, it shows real values and make real men.
Make her fend for herself and you destroy society at the root and they know it.
Not just fend for themselves it made them competitors against men instead of helpers and partners.
If the dad could earn an honest living with just one income, the mom wouldn’t have to work outside the home
Agreed. And we all played a part as we moved away from God, ignored those women who were truly wronged, allowed hedonism to become normal....it spread like cancer.
Anyone remember the "enjoli" commercials from the 70s? "I can bring home the bacon, fry it up in a pan, & never ....."
This is absolutely correct.
I've mentioned this story before. When I was in (a very liberal) college, I mentioned as one of my life goals wanting to have a husband and family and I wanted to stay home with my children. You'd think I announced I wanted to torture puppies and run over sweet little old ladies for sport.
When I pointed out that feminism was supposed to be about ladies having the power to choose, and my choice would be to have and care for my family, their brains exploded. That was (just one) of my very big 'aha moments' concerning the liberal hypocrisy while at school.
CIA played a role as well.
Yes, and they made wages equal by raising womens while cutting mens. So now women have to work. Women are too easily led astray with feelings. Not all the women saying (not me), then I am not talking to you but I bet you know someone like this, right? Personally I would pick a smart woman any day over a sheeple dumb ass.
It takes a tough woman to approach the bullshit straight on. Some can do it but not enough in my opinion. Too many just join the side they think has them most people. Women feel more empowered with numbers, but they need to be more selective on who they follow.
Accomplished many things: destroy nuclear family by requiring both partners to have jobs to sustain comfortable livingn, double the workforce thus stagnating wages, emasculate men with female bosses, take away male “on the hunt” camaraderie in the office and fire men who do not submit to female bosses and coworkers, get kids into government schools earlier, trap women in a “you can’t have it all mindset” where they have to choose between financial independence or having a family, encouraged sexual promiscuity because being married was no longer the best way to have sex because you could just sleep with the career woman. I have to tip my cap to them. Their plan was brilliant.
YES! I’ve been saying this for years !
It's all been about the breakdown of western culture.
That's why the communists believe the communism doesn't work, because of western culture.
They've been working for a long time to break down that culture and get people infighting on stupid gender/race politics.
There's no going back
Sauce? Until then, it’s an assertion. (Twitter doesn’t count as a source, and that’s what I replied in the post.)
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Producer Aaron Russo (Trading Places) became friends with Nick Rockefeller and he told him that. This is a 10 minute clip from Alex Jones interview with him for Freedom To Fascism. It's well worth watching in full, but this clip will tell you what you want to know (poor quality though).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvVfDK3gH_k
He didn't live long after that, died of cancer.
(Gloria Steinham often boasted that the CIA helped fund her feminist magazine as well (Cosmopolitan I think?) - lol she thought they supported women's struggle.)
Good to know. I’ll check it out. Thanks!
All true.
Feminism has allowed them to be both the victim and the victimizer.
https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/this-former-cosmo-writer-dishes-on-how-the-magazine-lied-to-sell-feminism