posted ago by 2016is1776 ago by 2016is1776 +318 / -10

I am 99.9% Pro Trump. I believe Q knows what's going on. But there is something I can't understand.

If Patriots are in control. And Trump take credit for the COVID shots. How the hell do we make sense of all these terrible side effects that the rushed vaccine does?

How do we make that make sense?

Trump is aware that they were going to give side effects? If so? was it necessary? Or are Patriots really not that in control? Was Trump lied to about the safety of the shots?

It's a huge torn on my side that doesn't add up.

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PolishBaldEagle 74 points ago +75 / -1 stickied

Sticky for an hour for exposure and provide answers which you may be looking for

Trump didn’t personally make the shot, he pushed the companies to make the shot because the circumstances needed it. How the companies made it doesn’t necessarily reflect on the fact that Trump ordered and directed it to happen.

Slyver 95 points ago +95 / -0

This is the War to end all Wars. It is a disinformation war. We are being taught to think for ourselves, and to take back our world. We are being empowered. Thinking for ourselves is the most difficult lesson to learn because we have been taught (brainwashed) to not think for ourselves since birth. Standing up for ourselves is also difficult because we have been taught to rely on "experts" and "heroes". We have been taught that we mere individuals are powerless.

In this war, people will die. It is the way of war. If no one died, then no one would learn to think for themselves or stand up for themselves. It had to be this way.

aquasmurf 38 points ago +39 / -1

In this war, people will die. It is the way of war. If no one died, then no one would learn to think for themselves or stand up for themselves. It had to be this way.

Some seem to think the ending won't be for everyone.

PompeiusMagnus 18 points ago +18 / -0

Q is one of them who think the ending won't be for everyone.

aquasmurf 8 points ago +8 / -0

What a coincidence. So am I.

spanglevision 1 point ago +1 / -0

how many coincidences before it's mathematically impossible?

aquasmurf 4 points ago +4 / -0
spanglevision 4 points ago +4 / -0

Thanks for all the fish!

Mixchi 8 points ago +8 / -0

In reality, the ending will never be for everyone. It happens in every war, every major piece of history has casualties.

aquasmurf 12 points ago +12 / -0

I've spent 15 years on 4chan.

My body is ready.

335K 2 points ago +2 / -0


BeKind 21 points ago +21 / -0

You're very right, and I also think Trump may be distancing himself from the so-called "anti-vax" movement so that they can't claim he's leading it.

Trump people are doing it all on their own. And the media fucking hates it. They WANT to blame it all on Trump, but they can't.

VetforTrump 5 points ago +5 / -0

That's it. When we booed the man we love for bringing up the Vax, the left realized shit. Nobody has control of those people.

FishinGuns 3 points ago +3 / -0

Solid thought^

BurtMcGirt 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's been my guess

hope111111 9 points ago +9 / -0

I think this is the answer.

Pharma has been killing untold numbers of americans and never feared anything. Now they have been caught.

aquasmurf 59 points ago +62 / -3

1.) Trump didn't make the vaccine. He facilitated fast-tracking pathways for vaccine manufacturers to get vaccines out faster than usual. The swamp took the bait and did the rest.

2.) Trump is neutral on how folks should feel about the vaccine. To summarize his sentiment : "Take it if you want. I respect your freedoms if you don't want to take it."

That's about it.

GreatFunana 46 points ago +46 / -0

This. One of the cloak and dagger theories is that they wanted the lock downs to continue for 5 years or so... as that is how long it takes to make a legit vaccine. To facilitate the great reset; aka the new world order.

Having a vaccine means they can't keep the country shutdown, even though they are trying.

The bait, as put above, was to force a vaccine mandate, another way to keep the country shutdown, and watch the opposition to see who goes full tyrant. We are getting a good view on how fucked and terrible the Dems in power are.

inutterable 14 points ago +14 / -0

Exactly this. If the vaccines didn't exist at all, the People of the US and the World would still be locked in our homes by the Cabal under the guise of "public safety". Suicides skyrocketing, distribution chains failing, manufacturing destroyed, trade collapsed, debt spending unmitigated, and fully reliant on government handouts. They intended to destroy it all, while any of us who stepped outside would be torn apart by gashing teeth and our own neighbors.

Instead, Trump and Team used the greatest motivator of all to usurp the Cabal's plans: greed. First, they offered a ton of money and ludicrous contracts for the fast production of vaccines that would hijack the time-frame of lockdowns. Second, they gave the top and most corrupt people the opening to kill/poison the populace with the jab. War is Hell. Pray for wisdom and mercy for us all.

Lots of theories have flown about whether all vaccines are tainted, intercepted, poison, etc. Worse, Trump has been painted as being a "vax pusher" for making the decisions and statements he had to in order to get the People free from lockdown. People are sheep. They don't understand that the MSM is feeding them brainwashing BS because the MSM is feeding them brainwashing BS.

The reality about Trump can only be found by comparing the state of the US to his actual statements at the time. When lockdowns were happening across the US, he was in fact telling people to get vaccinated. When lockdowns eased, he changed up to say the vaccines were working. Now lockdowns are relatively gone except under the real tyrant governors, and Trump is stating clearly No Mandates, that he's not getting a booster, and that Pfizer and the FDA are corrupt. Good, redpilling messaging.

Imagine where we'll be by the end of the 21 days of prayer? November 2, if anyone is keeping track. Interesting day. The day before the anniversary of...

kayak 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yes. Not to mention he promoted HCQ and other treatments early on. Took so much heat, why? Which got many of us into treatment research mode following closely re: treatments, comorbidities, following the money and getting fitter, healthier 8 MONTHS before Vaccines emerged. We had many places to share treatments, judge the vaccine from a risk-benefit frame of mind and had viable alternatives to make our own informed personal choices last December. I'm forever grateful for Trump and the many who also were digging, questioning, sharing from early on to now.

Whirlybot 1 point ago +1 / -0

October 2?

Choctaw 5 points ago +5 / -0

There is a reason I believe that Trump pushed for a faster release. In pushing for the vaxx to be released quicker, it came out under the classification of experimental and all the accompanying legalese that goes with. If they waited say two years, they could have accelerated the approval process during that time, and made it 100% FDA approved. Once the vaxx was FDA approved, you can bet your ass they would have forced it on EVERYONE whether you wanted it or not, and that would have happened world wide. A lot countries have policy based on what happens here, if the FDA approves then a lot of countries will use that as their basis of use.

Ktredhot 4 points ago +4 / -0

Not only that, but there would have been a tracking system put in place. Someone mentioned to me early on that what should have been done, instead of vaccine cards, was a way to tie your vaccination status to a drivers license or personal ID card (like they do with organ donors). Because it was all rolled out so quickly and ahead of schedule, no system was in place to track who got jabbed and who didn’t .

This is where I think the Red October reference is relevant. Instead of trying to block the vaccine, Trump pushed it through before they had time to get their ducks in a row. He turned around and drove the sub straight at them before they could arm the missile. So now they really have no clue who is actually vaccinated and who is not.

Choctaw 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree completely with that last part. I was leaning towards that as well, just hadn't coalesced the idea together as well as you.

MyTeenageBody 4 points ago +4 / -0

Well one problem with that is the vaccine is killing people and causing all kinds of health problems so I don’t see how you could be for someone taking that. It would be morally wrong to tell someone the vaccine is good and safe

FishinGuns 2 points ago +2 / -0

@GreatFunana: I believe this to be the biggest catalyst.

CarrieDodson17 2 points ago +2 / -0

He has said take it if you want but he has also said "everyone should take it" and he NEVER talks about or acknowledges the fact that there are documented side effects and deaths on a scale we have never seen with a medical product that continue to keep its eua.

aquasmurf 1 point ago +1 / -0

he has also said "everyone should take it"

You may have accidentally forgotten your source to that. Would you mind sharing, please?

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solarsavior 41 points ago +42 / -1

The Hunt for Red October


Capt. Bart Mancuso : Combat tactics, Mr. Ryan. By turning into the torpedo, the Captain closed the distance before it could arm itself.

The Cabal wants to depopulate the planet. Well let's get to it at Warp Speed (Operation Warp Speed), being careful how we message and what we do as to awaken people as we go. Not much we can do about the droids, but we can message to Patriots that there are other options. Optics are more important than deaths.

Rather than let the Cabal keep us on lock down and drip, drip, drip until we're all dead, Trump forged ahead. The Cabal had little choice. Demonrats were saying the vaccine couldn't be done over and over again. Vaccine only released days after Trump "left office".

NineInchez 10 points ago +10 / -0

👆👆👆👆👆Wish I could upvote this more. Very good answer.

7Nick9 4 points ago +4 / -0

Me to !!👆👆👆

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ObviousStatementMan 7 points ago +7 / -0

"Capt. Bart Mancuso : Combat tactics, Mr. Ryan. By turning into the torpedo, the Captain closed the distance before it could arm itself."

This is the way.

solarsavior 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is the way.

arse_garblin 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is the way.

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solarsavior 3 points ago +3 / -0

Standing on the shoulders of giants.

NeverStopBelieving 3 points ago +3 / -0

I agree with you about it was this or lockdown and there are casualties in war and I’m actually 100 percent Trump , but I do wish he’d back off a little now that the world knows they are bad ..he’s a brilliant man and for him to not make a statement soon that the statistics are showing that this jab is dangerous is confusing some of his supporters and some liberals that want to jump buydones ship ..most of us aren’t confused but I do wish he would make an announcement soon that something is not good with the jabs ! However I’m not in control and if he doesn’t make an announcement condemning the jab , than there are reasons, and he’s in charge , I’m not moving from my hill !

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MAGAsoyboyslayer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yep. I know a ton of CNN drones that took this vaccine. Most under control from project bluebeam.

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ProphetBoi 20 points ago +20 / -0

I saw a video stating that until approved, under the EUA these companies can alter their formulas without saying anything

TheJake 9 points ago +9 / -0

This is true

inquimous 5 points ago +5 / -0

That would certainly explain a lot.

Joshheretohelp 6 points ago +6 / -0

and what if they are being swapped on site?

inutterable 13 points ago +13 / -0

There are certain Lot Numbers that have higher death rates. You can look at VAERS and see that a few stand out considerably.

EK5730 is exceptionally bad. Almost 20% of all adverse effects had it the last time I looked (of records that had an LN listed). EH9899 isn't far behind.

There are dozens of Lot Numbers. For any particular Lot to stand out like that is insane. Also take note that Japan has found lots in particular that have strange magnetic particles, pink particles, and black particles in certain lots when they quality check their imported stock.

NeverStopBelieving 3 points ago +3 / -0

Omg EH 9899 is San Diego ..my family . Well , I stand with God , my daughter, 28 bragged her whole life to friends that her mom , me, was smart enough not to get her vaxxed ,my other 29 yr old daughter has autism , I woke up after that , anyway 28 yr old has been brainwashed , controlled by msm and hollyweird , she now tells me I’m ridiculous and the jab is fine , she refuses to admit to me that she got it , but, I saw the bandaid the same time she was sick for days ..very sad! There is nothing we can do accept believe God for mercy !

inutterable 3 points ago +3 / -0

I have family who took it as well. They went to the same place at different times (different age groups, some health workers). While there's too much cognitive dissonance to have a real conversation about it with them, I have confirmed that they have different lot numbers for their different jabs.

It's weird. I also know that legally any "experiment" group must have at least 20% placebo. I don't know if these fall into that, but I could imagine those lot numbers would make logistics possible.

aquasmurf 2 points ago +2 / -0

I hadn't even considered this. That's extra scary.

Lapstrake 23 points ago +23 / -0

Instead of concentrating on why Trump supported the vaccine, instead try following what would happen if he did the opposite.

What happened to Hydroxychloroquine?

If you think the media was unfair when they successfully characterized one remark as the President suggesting to the country that everyone drink bleach, can you imagine the firestorm and outrage if he had dissed their precious vaccine?

To win this war the normies have to find out for themselves that the vaccine is more harmful than good. The normies have to figure out that our voting system is utterly broken and not working at all. I think they have gamed it out and realize that we cannot win if the anti-vax sentiment can be hung on Donald J. Trump.

I would also point out that Trump has said that he doesn't believe that anybody should have to take the vaccine if they don't want it. And he has said that he doesn't think children should get it.


Trump claimed during an interview with Sean Hannity on Wednesday that school-age children should not be inoculated against the deadly virus. “Now we have to get back and the schools have to get open—and frankly, we’re lucky we have the vaccine. But the vaccine on very young people is something that you gotta really stop,” Trump inexplicably said. “You have to get back to running your country—I mean, I don’t see reasons—and I am a big believer in what we did with the vaccine. It’s incredible what we did. You see the results. But to have every school child, where it’s 99.99%, they just don’t—you know, they’re just not affected or affected badly. Having to receive a vaccine I think is something that you should start thinking about, because I think it’s unnecessary.”

AlecLeamas 9 points ago +9 / -0

It's quite a tightrope to walk for public figures like DJT. On the one hand anybody who has made the effort to research and educate themselves knows that there are doctors, scientists and virology experts worldwide who are suggesting that the sociopathic elite are trying to commit genocide on the human race. And on the other hand you have the mesmerized, MSM-watching segment of the population who think this is just about getting a shot to protect you from a disease, as if this were a measles outbreak. And so DJT and everybody else has to speak in what is basically baby talk so as not to alarm the normies. When our very survival as sovereign, free human beings is at stake.

Red_Pill_Pusher_Man 12 points ago +12 / -0

Do a search of which vaccine Trump took. Go ahead, use whichever search engine you want. The results will all be the same - only that he got a vaccine, but nobody knows which one he took and nobody in the press seems interested in asking which one.

Now look up the NEW definition for vaccine as it relates to Covid-19 (I'll save you the search)

from the CDC:

Vaccine: A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but some can be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

By their new definition - HCQ can be considered a vaccine. So can IVM. SO can Monoclonal antibodies. So can Regeneron. So can Zinc. So can any of the other treatment protocols that Dr.s can use to "Stimulate the body's immune response against diseases."

How do we know what Trump took as a vaccine when nobody has dared to ask the question?

greeneggsnham 5 points ago +5 / -0

I remember in one of the more recent interviews (the past week?), Trump was asked if he got vaccine and he said he did... and quickly followed that with saying something like getting covid is like getting the vaccine.

Red_Pill_Pusher_Man 4 points ago +4 / -0

Exactly my point. We don't know what Trump means when he said he was vaccinated because nobody asks him. He would probably dodge the question which would also lead me to think h wants us to do our own research on if we should be taking the vax and which one we should take. If Trump really wanted to encourage his followers to go get vaxxed, he would endorse one of them by stating which one he took. The media never asks him which leads me to believe the media does not want us to hear the answer.

What did Trump take when he had Covid? From this article:


As far as we know, that brings the total count of medications and supplements President Trump is currently taking or has taken to treat COVID-19 to eight: Regeneron's antibody cocktail, famotidine, remdesivir, dexamethasone, zinc, vitamin D, melatonin, and a daily aspirin.

mainmostman 2 points ago +2 / -0

Since they changed the definition of A vaccine, can the IVM protocol be considered one? Now those that took IVM should be considered fully vacced for work!

Red_Pill_Pusher_Man 2 points ago +2 / -0

If it cannot be - make them explain why not? It fits the definition provided by the CDC - you'd just be using their definition. Better get a prescription and doctors orders.

nineohseven 9 points ago +9 / -0

1: Freedom of choice.

2: He has called it 'The Jab'.

3: People were fooled into thinking the jab was good for them. Maybe they need to be fooled that it was far worse for them than it is. Do you run the VAERS site? Neither do I. Misinformation warfare works both ways. PANIC

I might be wrong about what I think but I trust my intuition a lot more these days.

kentrails 7 points ago +7 / -0

Without a vaccine the world would remain locked down and held at ransom. The NWO would have control. I think pushing the vaccine was to stop THEIR plans. Lesser of two evils.

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trump2020voter 7 points ago +7 / -0

As many have said, we're in a war right now. The greatest war of them all.

We have more digital warriors joining our side every single day.

As for Trump's vaccine, he always stands by a person's choice. Listen to him watch time when he talks about it. He says that they are available, but it's your choice. When you're awake, you can think for yourself. If you aren't, you will want to repeat the MSM lies to sound educated. Think about the people around you. So MANY repeat those lies to sound knowledgeable.

It shattered my perception of reality when I realized how many sheep are around. And they are fiercely defending their position that the MSM will support. They would rather die than live knowing that Trump was right.

A remember this other GA post about Trump and vaccines: https://greatawakening.win/p/12jwVfsaht/regn10987--regn10933what-is-this/

This video covers the war that we're in: https://gab.com/qalerts/posts/105831838092056200

We're all in this with you. We will fight in our own way every single day. In the darkest of times, remember that God is with you and billions of Anons who might not feel confident of their own voice. Each day that we wake up another person, it is speaking up for those who have lost their voice in this war.

SharpCookie 7 points ago +7 / -0

I'm more concerned that no one is even tackling the obvious genocide starting around the world.

Flowerpotz 3 points ago +3 / -0

Dr. Zev Zelenko and Dr. Stella Immanuel have both addressed this.

nineohseven 3 points ago +3 / -0

Like the obvious 'pandemic' everyone bought into? Misinformation warfare goes both ways.

SharpCookie 6 points ago +6 / -0

I guess I just don't get the warm fuzzies that after 1.5 years of this no one in any position of power is discussing 1) the insanely high survival rate, 2) the insanely dangerous whackcines, 3) concentration camps being put up globally, 4) the whackcine passport system being implemented.

We get smatterings here and there but not with the urgency you'd expect a global genocide attempt would deserve?

nineohseven 1 point ago +1 / -0

I feel you but you aren't supposed to get any warm fuzzies. PAIN -> Precipice -> fundamental change.

FishinGuns 1 point ago +1 / -0

Seems as though we have our own wrinkles to iron out, first?

AngelCole 7 points ago +7 / -0

Here is what I think. When Q told us you can't tell people you have to show them, well, would they have believed it if PDJT told them the deep state had planned to lock us down for 10 years or some long ass time? Look what they did when PDJT said HCQ was a therapeutic. This is about long term survival of humanity and history not repeating itself. PDJT had a couple of choices, do nothing and allow them to shut us down for 5-10 years, then force a mandate on everyone at the same time or make them speed up their plans, operation warpspeed, and make obvious for everyone who is watching who these people really are. He made the frog boil quickly instead of over 5-10. I believe he had a choice on collateral damage, billions or hundreds of millions. This choice is what he chose and it ends up being hundreds of millions and not billions, hopefully. These are my opinions. Trump didn't have a lot of options, there are also anons who believe there were missiles(nuclear) being used by the deep state as a threat to the world if he did anything to take them down. Some anons think that may have been on the evergiven.

Vapourface 3 points ago +3 / -0

He did once allude to a very very difficult decision, asked for prayer... this dilemma could be it.

americanjerky 6 points ago +6 / -0

Trump never forced or mandated anyone to take the vax. Trump gave people a choice, the leftists on the other hand want to restrict people’s freedom who refuse it.

Acala 6 points ago +6 / -0

Trump did it to thwart the great reset. Remember from the very beginning he preached about therapeutics being all you would need... And the globalist media called him a murderer for it. Then they threatened to keep the entire world locked down for years while they develop a vaccine. The plan all along: Destroy the global economy with crippling shut downs and force everyone into the great reset. Trump completely destroyed this critical step with Operation Warp Speed. Effectively saving the world from a dark age. The downside to this however was entrusting these experimental vaccines to compromised companies that likely are still trying to carry on remnant reset operations with the vaccine side of the equation. An unavoidable circumstance of this war but one we had to go through with. It also gave the globalist the vaccine they need to continue their consolidation of power but with so much of the reset dead in the water, it will ultimately fail and lead to their destruction. We had to take this path in order to put ourselves in a position to destroy them. It's war and we will lose more. Better to lose thousands and defeat our enemy than lose billions and have humanity take its last steps into a dark age.

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morum 6 points ago +6 / -0

its a chess game, sometimes you have to let pieces fall. pieces aren't just people, they are also subjects like the vaccines. Trump speeding them up forced them to go faster because they would have had us locked down without vaccine for years before introducing this garbage deathshot on everyone.. they would have been far more desperate to get it by then.

gigabump 5 points ago +5 / -0

Remember this, "Don't make the cure worse than the disease." ? He said it many times. They had a choice. They didn't make the right decision.

Misschelle 5 points ago +5 / -0

If there was not a vaccine available, we would still be in lockdown… He had to do it strategically

stray502 5 points ago +7 / -2

Trump may have been lied to about the safety of the shots because he got one himself. He got the J&J that is why the other side tried to pull it off the market. I do not believe Trump realizes the shot is killing and hurting people. He does not read the same stuff we do. I understand why he pushed for it to be made though because if he hadnt 2 things would have happened. 1 is that the deep state would have it mandatory and forced on everyone so he beat them to it by making it only available through emergency authorization and not mandatory. 2 they did not have time to add the gel delivery system which would have taken the poison straight to the brain and literally make zombies out of everyone. Why he continues to tell people the vaccine is great is because those closest to him are either hiding the fact they are dangerous or are purposely telling him the vaccines are great. I really hope some of his good friends will let him know.

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AtomicBlonde 9 points ago +10 / -1

I can assure you Trump did not get the shot.

NineInchez 6 points ago +6 / -0

I read (can't find it now) that he got the HCQ, Azithromycin, vitamins, etc shot. And that's what he is calling the vaccine.

FishinGuns 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is what I read/heard when it all went down. Recently I’ve heard that’s basically the vaccine he wanted brought to market +Ivermectin.

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CorpseLivesMatter 1 point ago +3 / -2

Even if he said he did?

Smokratez 0 points ago +1 / -1

He was shilling the vax at the end of his first term. Who do you feel confident he didn't take it?

arse_garblin 3 points ago +3 / -0

Sauce that he got the J&J? No news source has reported on which one he got.

Whirlybot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Don Jr is on this board - Bannon, etc.. You know that Trump is definitely in the loop.

Trump1234KAG 1 point ago +1 / -0

What is the gel delivery system, and do you have any research to share?

I have seen that, eventually, 3M-esque masks would have been provided. Those masks would have had cartridges, which would have been loaded with gels containing nano-bots. The gel & bots would have been inhaled, continuously, and provided a bioaccumulative toxin.

Is that the gel to which you are referring?

Greatheart 5 points ago +5 / -0

What is there to understand? All we know is there is a plan. We do not know the details. Our job is to help people wake up and get involved. You are questioning things we have no information about. Or at least we are not making the logical connections with the information we already have.

I will tell you right now there is a lot I do not understand. But I do understand this one thing. Our country and our world is lost unless this plan comes together.

You have a choice to make. Trust the plan or don't trust the plan. There is nothing else. Just like a solider we don't have all the information we just have a little bit. We are told to go forward even though we do not see what is up ahead.

If we need more information we will get that information. So for right now we don't need it. We just want it.

It could be very possible that this direction involved the least loss of life. We just don't know.

PaintingTruth17 5 points ago +5 / -0

" We can't let the cure be worse than the disease " - POTUS.

THEIR cure was " no cure at all " because covid = control. Once they get control they never want to give it up. Trump knew that. Maybe he just chose the lesser of 2 evils. Triage.

Were forced scheduled shots for all part of the NWO agenda ? Yes. However that was supposed to be a lil further down the road I believe, after a bit more conditioning and hypnosis.

This would give them more time to false flag people into turning onto T2A dividing us even further. Once we accepted the " new normal " shots would have went from those who want them to arresting those that do not in short time.

Trump just forced them to accelerate their plan. He knew the people so brainwashed that only the word vaccine would make them feel safe from the boogeyman. It was that or either let them lock down the planet and force us all into isolation to die mentally, spiritually, financially, etc.

More than anything I still believe in the show tho. It's not good enough to just arrest this sub race of demons. The sheep need to be shown just how evil they are and what they had in store for them. What better delivery system is there than the very people that were committing it ? They won't listen to us or Trump, so we all have to walk thru darkness just to wake up the masses.

How many sheep have now lost faith in the FDA, CDC, WHO, Health Depts, Hospitals, Doctors, etc. ?

Deaf_MAGA_Pede 4 points ago +4 / -0

Don't forget, President Trump was upset when the news broke out that J&J vaccine had to be suspended after 6 cases of blood clots or something I forgot. Someone correct me here if they know what I'm talking about, but he didn't get upset when Moderna was also rumored to be suspended. He seems to be focused on J&J.

My in-laws are Trump supporters, but they also got the J&J vaccine, unfortunately. So far they're doing fine but we did notice some things with them that's seemingly off but not sure if that's the vaccine or their health being on the decline. But not as severe as what many others were having with their side effects from Pfizer, Moderna and Astra Zeneca.

What my wife and I are hoping for is that the J&J vaccine is the saline shot and every other vaccines are the actual shots.

You also need to remember that if it wasn't for the vaccine, we would have 4-5 years of lockdowns and masks. President Trump pushed for the vaccine because some people, Dr. Fauci included, said the lockdowns and the mask mandate will never end until we have a vaccine for the "virus".

There's the possibility that the vaccine was supposed to come out as saline shots but then President Trump "lost" and the cabal replaced the saline shots with the actual shots in Trump's absence.

I remember someone mentioned that President Trump said he made one of the toughest decisions in his life and we believe this is the vaccine he's referring to. I know it's a horrible thing to have people suffer adverse reactions and/or die from it, but don't forget, he said we're fighting an invisible enemy and it may not be the virus, but the cabal that many people are clueless about.

He also knows that his supporters know the vaccine is BS and he probably was hoping the people who opposed him, would not get it if he "sponsored" it because people who hate him, usually do the opposite of what he say or do. He probably went all in, thinking both sides will not get the vaccine (Trump supporters won't as it's BS and the "Trump haters" won't because they won't take something he's supportive of). Unfortunately for the "Trump haters", they listened to way too many fake news and fake articles, to the point where they have forgotten what President Trump said about the vaccine.

There may be more to this but I'm just providing what I learned based on reading the info here on GA.W. If I'm mistaken on anything I said, please correct me. Downvote me if you want but it will not help anything if it isn't followed with a correction. This is not Retarddit -- we are here to help each other understand everything.

TheJake 4 points ago +4 / -0

To learn how to think for yourself

ThetruthSpreadsinNY 4 points ago +4 / -0

Mmm I Dono maybe the wartime is internal & external. It’s a EUA. So everyone has to actually decide to take it. The warning signs are there, you just have to search for it.

HunnyB 4 points ago +4 / -0

I don't think it's about the vaccine at all, it's about getting the bad guys to flip that's what went on early in 2020 and it's still about that.

I also think there are a lot of clowns/shills on both sides. Q never said not to get the vaccine, how do we even know how much we're being lied to, how much of this is a giant psy op. I think the white hats are using whole vaccine thing to redpill more people.

I'm not saying to get the vaccine. I got the J and J because my daughter wouldn't let up and she dealing with horrible anxiety attacks that I would die from covid. So I did it, I might die in two years, but I'm going to make it the best two years of my life I guess. Remember there's a lot of people that got it for the same reason I did, not because they're better than anyone else, but because of their families

I did my research and it's the closest to an actual vaccine. I was sick as a dog for two days I also have been taking my front line doctors vitamin regimen. I wouldn't recommend anyone getting the shot but don't think about what Trump's talking about as pushing the vaccine as it is getting the bad guys to flip and cooperate.


I have to believe the white hats are in control, and that the vaccine isn't as bad as they're saying it is. If it is I sttand to lose my entire family, so I might as well join them. I will have nothing left if I'm wrong.

WillowMinxy 4 points ago +4 / -0

If you are who you say you are in the first few sentences then you should keep thinking about it until your gut gives you the answer. Why should you care what invisible people on the internet think about what is going on? Why do you want their influence to help make up your mind “Bring understanding” on something so important? I am just reading everything and filtering it through my gut brain. So far it’s saying no vaccine not now not ever. I practiced resisting with the masks. I’m going to continue non-compliance until everybody else does it too. I don’t GAF what My beloved Trump or anyone else thinks.

Sew up the “torn” in your side and take personal responsibility for your thoughts.

Said with tough love.

cuckerberg2020 3 points ago +3 / -0

Unfortunately we are at war, internally. Trump fast tracked this vaxx to get us to wake up to the danger and forced the hand of the Deep State.

He claimed the vaxx was produced under his administration, he can't back track on it now. There will be collateral damage in war, nothing we can do about that.

Those of us that know should resist. fight, and spread our knowledge.


FiercePatriot 3 points ago +3 / -0

Trump had to put the vaccinations into warp speed because without them, we wouldn’t be able to get out of lock down. Remember what that was like for our families, our economy, our nation? BUT, and this is a big BUT... just because the vax was available to those who wanted it, doesn’t mean we had to get it. We still had FREE CHOICE under Trump. Not so with Biden.

7Nick9 3 points ago +3 / -0

The outpouring of replies on this thread is phenomenal ! 👍🇺🇸

RobotReturns 2 points ago +2 / -0

Time to learn to stop blindly taking medical advice from Trump

2016is1776 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Never did... that's why I am asking this question

ThebigLMAOski17 2 points ago +2 / -0

The consensus is that by rushing the vax with no FDA they couldn't force it on you.

Now they've pushed FDA on something that isn't even the same thing they've been injecting people with.

Lets look at this on the other side of the coin... had the "vaccines" been available and Trump didn't promote them, they would attack him for "witholding life saving medicine" or some nonsense.

either way, none of us are taking this shit... weather trump endorses it or not.

by doing so he removes a ton of ammo they would have used against him and us.

not much of a "cult" when we won't take "the trump vaccine" now is it?

every single move he makes paints them deeper and deeper into a corner...

it's been fun to watch, kinda, but this shit show is starting to do serious damage and i'm not so sure we'll be able to recover from it unless things get so bad we go full on myanmar.

moves and countermoves...

i'm just waiting for a Q drop to come in outta left field and really shake things up. lol.

SirSaturday 2 points ago +2 / -0

Since Trump said he took the vaccine, he'll be mad as hell when it blows up in people's faces.

CMAnon 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't think Trump knew the shots were unsafe. He relied of Fauci and I expect Trump will state what is now obvious...the vaccine is not safe or effective and blame Fauci and Gates for fudging the numbers and colluding with the Chinese.

Whirlybot 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think he may have relied on the FDA head, Scott something, who has since moved over to Pfizer, I think. He (Scott) seemed pretty reasonable in his TV appearances but the move to one of the jab companies is very concerning. And the fact that the CDC nor the WH are mandating the jab to their employees is equally suspicious.

Quantachyon 2 points ago +2 / -0

What if THE REAL VACCINE was not lethal nor had side effects?

( Q1010 - VACCINES [NOT ALL]. )

What if they added to the shot? What if this will expose the Deep state plots to reduce population and make us dependant on the shot and boosters?

Questionable 2 points ago +2 / -0

Really simple. They were never going to improve the vaccine, only delay it for several years. The initial approval didn't come from Trump, but from a European organization, one Trump has no authority over.

Now ask yourself. Why are leftists so insistent on taking these vaccines, that they so venomously blamed on Trump? Shouldn't that have caused them to NOT wish to take it?

Shouldn't it be causing them doubt now?

PeaceAndLovePatriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

Patriots are in control, and the choice has always been yours.

The end won't be for everyone.

GodzillaTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

The answer is not everything Trump does or did is correct. The vaccine project had good intentions but the result has been lack luster to say the least. He couldnt have known but since the mainstream supports vaccines hes going to take credit for it. Who wouldnt?

OXRanger 2 points ago +2 / -0

Trump focus is winning the war; not battle(s). Enemy is evil and desperate; casualties should not be a surprise, unfortunately. On January 20, 2021 vaccine has just been announced. Trump did not know side effects now evident. Trump also touted alternatives; bringing more tyranny to light. To fight the Vax battle is premature. . . Need to fight and win battles of Stolen Election, Pedophiles, Save the Children, Massive, Multi Agency, Government Corruption, Treason in Military and Covid Crime Against Humanity simultaneously to win the war.

MAGA_Patriot_1776 2 points ago +2 / -0

In Trump's own words from 9-12-21. This is one of his more recent statements on the vaccine issue.

@8:52 Trump discusses vaccines. https://rumble.com/vmf6kp-full-measure-one-on-one-with-donald-j.-trump.html

67Vert 2 points ago +2 / -0

Trump doesn’t think the vax is bad is and is appealing to his larger base taking credit for Operation Warp Speed. GAW is not representative of the MAGA base. Most MAGA peeps are probably vaxxed,

Censorddit 2 points ago +2 / -0

Trump put it on the table. He's not a doctor. Trump was played. But in reality he wasn't. IT was mostly a oh? You think so? That just won't play out well for the left.

Sodium_miner 2 points ago +2 / -0

They were going to lock us down forever. So the shots have side effects which I’ve heard people say can be help with ivermectin which Trump also mentions. This is war and he had no choice. They were trying to break us by keeping us locked down. With a vaccine in place there was no reason to force us all to be locked down. It got us going back to work. At least in red states.

Moose_Antlers 2 points ago +2 / -0

My thoughts:

  1. The initial plan was to release the disease, gin up the fear, and use it to lock down the economies of western industrialized nations. This would destroy their economies. In the process of the massive fire sale, the elites would buy up all the valuable land and infrastructure at fire sale prices, effectively seizing control for themselves. This would be part of the Great Reset we've heard about from Klaus Schwab.
  2. Trump countered by getting treatments and the vaccines out in record time. He literally dragged the FDA and CDC kicking and screaming through the process, and bribed the pharma companies to get the work done in record time with Operation Warp Speed. By getting all of this done, he created viable medical treatment for the disease, so COVID could not be used to lock down the world. In Aussie and NZ we're seeing Plan A. They're using even a single case as an excuse to turn their countries into prisons. This is what was supposed to happen here. Canada's building quarantine camps right along with the Aussies, and I think we all know how that's going to work out.
  3. Of course, evil is as evil is as evil does so we're seeing Plan B. The Deep State simply ignored any valid treatments and decided to use vaccines as a tool to implement social control, so now we're seeing mask and vaccine mandates and contact tracing (police state surveillance) all over the Western world being rolled out. Anyone who refuses (ie, awake political enemies of the Deep State) is to be locked in a prison of their own homes and cut out of society, so they achieve their same control.
  4. On the side effects, the S-protein was a mystery when they designed the vaccines. In fact, still to this day, people don't know exactly how the S-protein causes clots and why some people don't seem to have any issue and some people drop dead 3 days after getting the shot. I've got my theories, but that's an academic discussion. Politically, no one really knew this would be a problem. When Trump rushed this thing through, this didn't get caught or properly investigated during phase 3, and now that the Deep State has the vax, they don't give a damn what the side effects are. All they care about is having an excuse to seize control.
  5. Trump is probably following the available data from FDA and ACIP/CDC which say it's safe - and the data show that. The catch is all the data comes from 2 sources. First is VAERS run by CDC. The database itself is a horror show to work with and and second CDC's busy deleting reports of deaths. Oops. The second source is the post-marketing databases the FDA's EUAs required each vax manufacturer to create. The catch with these is that they're proprietary and not open to the public to look at, and more importantly it's the damn pharma company curating it and they've got a huge incentive to say their shit is safe. Negative data would make their shareholders very upset at a LOT of lost profit from bulk sales to the government. We end up having to trust the untrustworthy because there simply is no other data.
Greengumby3 2 points ago +2 / -0

Trump's operation warp speed was a better option than any deep state pre planned alternative.

RandolphX 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think Trump got the J&J vax. J&J was the only vax made from a live attenuated virus, as all real vaccines are made. That's why they fought to get rid of it.

Dessert4TWO69 2 points ago +2 / -0

I dunno if he got that one, it was the last approved wasn't it? Then again, maybe so, since we only heard about it one time, and if he got the second dose of another...

Whirlybot 1 point ago +1 / -0

J&J is only a one-shot jab.

DarQ2light 2 points ago +2 / -0

If Trump knew that they were going to murder people with the shot, do you think he could have made the announcement without the media spinning the story that he's trying to murder people by scaring them from getting the shot? It's a sincere question, and the precursor to a possible answer to your question.

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ItsOkayToBeWight 1 point ago +1 / -0

The jab may have been made in earnest, but greedy companies pushed it out the door before it was ready and won't dare admit they fucked up now.

DWWink 1 point ago +1 / -0

They changed the formula.

McCoffeeWarrior 1 point ago +1 / -0

Because it’s MOSTLY safe, and would’ve happened regardless if he did it now or if it were in 5 years (like he has mentioned that’s how long they predicted a vaccine would take) IMO he rushed the process knowing that it would eventually be mandated by the NWO regardless of timing. He rushed them into it, forced their hand to MANDATE it because that is what they intended to do all along. He strategically set Joe Biden up for failure in many ways and this is just one. The vaccine mandates unite us and in many ways exposes the dictatorship for what it is