Trump is cheated out of the Republican nomination. RFK Jr is cheated out of the democrat nomination. An independent Trump/JFK Jr ticket is formed and kicks the shit out of the establishment. Just a thought.
Fwiw, my current guess is that 2023/24 will be more like a mature version of 2015/16.
Im guessing that like Bernie, RFK Jr will be successfully cheated out of the nomination. Additionally, like they did in 2015/16, they will try to cheat Trump out of the nomination. Once again, they will fail..
When these things happen, what will RFK Jr do? What will his supporters do?
Hopefully enough will emulate 2016 Bernie bros who revenge voted for Trump to btfo the people they hate more than drumpf.
The PBD podcast a couple of days ago had Col. Douglas MacGregor on and they talked about this (DJT/RFK third party). He also said he thinks the odds are pretty good there won't be a 2024 election.
Long podcast but really worth the listen. It is broken up in parts on YT, but here is the whole thing.
It already did. Bernie beat HRC and she had it rigged against him, or so I’ve read. His supporters didn’t do much of anything after that, except despise Trump. And get another nose ring.
Bernie Bros aren't some fringe group. Both times Bernie was running away with it, Shrillary did not expect a long protracted fight for the nom. A lot of leftists dislike their party as much as we dislike ours. Getting Biden as their nom would be like us getting Jeb or Kasich. Enough Bernie Bros defected, about 15%, to have made the difference. In fact if you look at our margins of victory, it would be about that same number.
We’ll see.
I think the trick is as to let everyone see how quickly things could get better in America. The cabal had to “reset” things so fast it made people wake up. You don’t go from having the best economy in the nations history to one of the worst in the world in just 6 months by accident.
Would be interesting to see RFK picked as Secretary of State under Trump. A position usually held by the slimiest of the slimy, since state and cia are essentially joined at the hip. The biggest fuck you to the deep state possible. Put a descendant of the guy you whacked in charge of the whole damn thing.
Thanks! Don’t even drink anymore. I used to be quite boozy in my military days. I guess I will always self identify as a fuckface who smells like stale whiskey.
either way, I think RFK is serving to awaken those that will listen to him because he's a Kennedy, a Democrat, looks good with his shirt off or whatever drives one to respect his opinion over Trump's or other truth tellers
I understand the narrative of having him cheated out of the primary, but I don’t like raising this guy up. He is everything we despise in liberals. He may have some conservative views on a few things but he is much more left than recent sound bites make him out to be.
Counter point. There is no way in hell that the dem party is gunna let Kennedy win. We need to "raise this guy up" for the very reason that he will be a thorn in the sides of the deep state but the attacks will be coming from their left (Kennedy) while also coming from their right (PDJT). No dems are going to listen to PDJT but many of them WILL question the narrative if the criticism is coming from THEIR side. Plus, Senior Kennedy es muy whoppo sin camisa (Totally not gay).
Fwiw, I often find I have more in common with and more admiration for people who wore/wear political labels like liberal or democrat than I do with those who label themselves as conservatives or republicans.
As Q said repeatedly, the OWO/NWO Death Cult need us to remain DIVIDED, full of hate for each other and fighting amongst ourselves. That's the only way "The Small Club" stays in power.
Rejecting the Death Cults psyops == UNITING and FOCUSING on DEFEATING the Death Cult that threatens us all.
"Lord of the Rings" is a fictional masterpiece. Like all fictional masterpieces, "Lord of the Rings" conveys transcendent, timeless TRUTHs in ways no work of non fiction can.
Bottom line, God bless our Gandalf, Trump, and his allies, like General Flynn, who are willing to set aside legitimate differences in order to join Gandalf Trumps Anti NWO Mordor Alliance because they realize everyones SURVIVAL is on the line.
Any plans to fix america will need to fix both parties. Trump fixed the republicans and RFK will fix the democrats. We will have two guys. One taking out RINOs and one taking out DINOs
Two major things wrong with Kennedy (well three, since he's a Kennedy :) , 1) he's a Democrat, and 2) he is fully on board with "climate crisis". His climate view is the reason he is for nuclear power.
He won't speak against the radicals in the D party.
He was supposed to speak at the same conference (had already accepted the invitation) but backed out of it after being pressured by communist activists.
Search engines hide Croakus Kennedy's anti-gun agenda. Nearly all searches about his position on 2A direct straight away to "recent comments." Anyone can search that for themselves to see first hand how big tech manipulates searches for their radical left agenda, and see how fake and gay their propaganda machine truly is.
I believe Trump and Kennedy are working together. Hasn't the name Kennedy been a large angle of The Great Awakening? The Vincent Fuscha & lady next to him in 2015 rallies that looked like Carolyn Bessette. WWG1WGA on Kennedys boat. RFK Jr rubbing his nose on Zoom call when asked if JFK Jr was alive. I know I'm missing a few, so if Q is real than seems to me that Kennedy and Trump are working togetner
This is misdirection…but in the right direction. As I said in the other thread, they are trying to get rid of Joe. It’s shown as republicans doing this through the house, impeachment. But the Dems want this as well. But they can’t admit that publicly. It’s why they are going Gavin Newsom, their other talking head. So..our great Gen. Flynn here is pointing this out. RFK Jr is a force to be reckon with, no doubt. The fact that the Dems run from him is kinda hilarious. What he’s saying they have been hiding for decades. He’s very similar to Trump, but for the democrats. RFK is there to up root the old guard. He’s loud and the fact the Dems do not want anything to do with him is why this needs pointing out by Flynn.
Imagine a debate stage with RFK Jr and Trump. They would agree on so many things, which would expose the deepstate and cabal relentlessly. Of course they have to have differences because, parties. But the exposure would be un-freaking-believable. To me this is part of the plan. Seems to perfect. But, a much steeper hill because, we’ll it’s the Dems. They don’t care what their voter base thinks. They pick who they want and go.
While an understandable mindset, hopefully enough life long Democrats won't share this mindset and instead will vote for President Trump even though he's running as a Republican.
Hopefully enough people share President Trumps attitude that he doesn't really think of himself in terms of political labels. Instead, he prefers to think of himself as a common sense person who loves American and Our American Family even those who are still sick and hate full.
No. Flynn is (or was) a registered democrat, and he is letting his party feels slip through here. Unity with the left is like a dog wanting unity with fleas. Kennedy is a POS political candidate who knows how to whisper "sweet nothings" into the ears of voters. But, we can count on him to choke when it really matters to American freedom and liberty- just like the uni-party republicans.
Besides, America is sick and tired of political dynasty's. We ain't doing a Kennedy- perhaps with an exception for Louisiana senator Kennedy ;)
The same could be said of Republican voters pre-Trump. Every one of us was asleep at some point or another. The only difference is when and how we wake up.
I don't disagree at all and hope that those in the non-malevolent, wilfully-ignorant category can be reached and removed from the equation in time by waking them up. There seems to be some pushback in even criticizing those who are still behaving poorly and I'm going to hold my ground there. This awakening is, in fact, teaching people the hard way that there are actual, sometimes very bad, sometimes even fatal consequences for bad behavior and wilful ignorance.
Do I want any of these people to suffer? Absolutely not! I want every last one of them to awaken. Even looking at these radical, violent antifa turds I think of what a shame to see such energetic, physically healthy young people with such severe mental and/or moral deficiencies. I think this is why Q states that the [D] party will cease to exist. It's not that we want leftist individuals to "cease to exist" (as living, breathing people), but rather the party be exposed and for current leftists to walk away from it. I voted for Bush Jr - the first time - but could not, would not vote for his second term after seeing him in action. And I called out his bad behavior to friends on both sides of the aisle while he was behaving poorly.
... Furthermore, since they seem to be brainwashed by the FNM, the WH have made great strides in weaning many of them off the DS narrative teat. I'm one of those who wades into the detestable FNM swamp periodically to see what the left is being fed for narrative and it's been interesting to watch the changes.
I'm all for unity and allowing those strong enough to break their programming back into the fold, so to speak, but as long as those remaining on the left continue to reject both sides of an argument in favor of what they want or fear to be "true" I'll continue to consider them wilfully-ignorant.
Sorry, but have you tried to offer these people facts on a topic that they don't want to believe is true? I have, many times over the years (not just the recent jab data) and they refuse to even consider it. That's wilful ignorance. They want to believe in global cooling, global warming, climate change, standing room only or any number of other fear-inducing BS they get fed and no amount of data from actual scientists who aren't in line with the DS narrative will ever be even considered.
from their point of view, its simply unlikely that you're correct, and require more evidence. you're saying that providing evidence (exposure) will make a difference, so you can't also say they won't consider it, or evidence wouldn't work.
also, global cooling is not one of theirs.. isn't that a DJT quote?
Global cooling came before global warming which then morphed into climate change since people with long memories had begun to call them (DS) out on their 180-degree turnaround on fear porn tactics. They even did a movie on it in 2004, The Day After Tomorrow. I know which DJT quote you're speaking of, but this goes back decades. I'll try to dig up the name of that movie. Edit: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319262/
Again, regarding wilful ignorance... No, it's not that it requires more evidence - they won't consider the evidence you have. Whether it's fear or just desire to believe something their FNM tells them to believe they won't even look at it. Case in point (anecdotal) I sent a far left friend info on the dangers of those jabs and this person wouldn't even read it, said "Oh, that's from a partisan source". This person subsequently ended up with shingles and other neurological health problems. They refused to even read what was sent to them.
I've watched FNM talking heads tell their viewers specifically to not listen to any information which contradicts what they're telling them (the narrative) - and the sheep acquiesce! As long as I can remember, if someone told me to not listen to one side of a story, I went to seek that opposing view immediately. You cannot make sound decisions based on half an argument.
I'm not suggesting we give up the fight to get these people to break their programming, but you and I seem to differ on what to think of them while they're still under the throes of their well-funded brainwashing. I think it's destructive to them - and obviously to society/humanity as an entirety - for us to continue to mollycoddle them and pretend that their shitty behavior isn't shitty. And it's obvious to me that the spell of FNM needs to continue to be broken because our sheep are not listening to people who know and love them, but to FNM talking heads and DS "experts".
I love my leftist friends and want them to break free of their emotional chains, but as adults they're responsible for their words and actions. Tolerating bad behavior hasn't worked out well for them or for society as a whole.
you are making my case for me... your friend thinks it unlikely that you are correct, and you are expecting them to change their mind according to your timing, instead of their own. that's not how this works. if you want to effectively redpill, you have to learn how to work with their timing instead of fighting it. you don't pick the fruit on the same day you plant the seed, my guy. that is an unreasonable expectation.
i agree that fukl exposure of the crimes will help. and i agree that they are ruled by fear. but there is a lot of fear on our side as well, and we often make the mistake of trying to scare the left into agreeing with us. its much easier to change minds by looking comfy.
The entirety of the democrat party defends, and even cheers the lawless behavior of the commie-democrats. There isn't even a question about it, just look at how they vote in congress- all for BS impeachments vs. Trump; all in support of the blatantly flawed fraud 2020 election; all in support of HRC and her crime spree; all in support of a zillion govt. coverups; all refuse to challenge the two-tier justice system; etc. And, all in support of Adam Schiff. Watch the clip of McCarthy censuring Schiff, and listen to the democrats yelling over him as if Schiff doesn't deserve the censure- they actually support his crimes too.
They are pathetic hypocrites, every single one of them. The whole party has embraced hypocrisy as its guiding principle. There is no "unity" to be had with people like that. Croakus Kennedy offers nothing for America, except to legitimize the worst of what the democrat party has become, and we cannot afford to give those outlaws even 1 inch of legitimacy.
the left is fueled by ignorance. plenty of their voters haven't even heard of whats going on. ...and there are those on the right who are just as uninformed, but vote red out of habit, maybe for a RINO every time.
it has cost our adversaries trillions to mislead humans to the degree they have been. and frankly it doesn't sound like you interact with anyone outside this echo chamber, and probably don't speak any more accurately about them than they do about us.
Your condescension towards a differing opinion aside, I have to disagree with you that anon u/ToxicLibertyism sounds like he/she doesn't interact with "anyone outside this echo chamber" and isn't speaking accurately about them. I have many friends on the left, some who have been friends for decades, and wilfully-ignorant, virtue-signaling and hypocritical are just a few of the many unflattering, but apt, descriptions of what these people are, particularly in the realm of politics. Furthermore, TL's description of the behavior of the left in Congress is absolutely true. I would also add that the left is fueled by FEAR.
When I say "all democrats..." it is in reference only to political figures. Individual voters are not the same as the party. The topic of the tread is Flynn foolishly thinking that there is any sort of "unity" to be found with elected democrats.
We as a people who care about protecting our nation, our society, and our way of life simply cannot afford to compromise with the deranged [elected party officials] democrats. They have all proven to be wicked hypocrites who consistently vote against the rule of law, and in support of criminal govt. abuses of power. They are controlled by actual communists determined to destroy every shred of this so-called "democracy" idea. There can never be "unity" with that ideology, period.
I agree that the true, current ideology of the left needs to be exposed. The current left is not like it was decades ago. They always wrapped their ineffectual policies in flowery words, but they weren't anything like the malevolent entity they've become today. As some former leftists have proclaimed, they didn't leave their party, their party left them. Why the rank-and-file, current, democrat-supporting, average citizen refuses to acknowledge this is largely due to the FNM, IMHO.
Indeed. The current iterations (in terms of party leadership, and direction) of both the democrat party, and the republican party are both vastly different than what they were decades ago. Both have slid far to the left. The Cold War never ended.
my condescension towards a differing opinion? while you defend dismissing a whole demographic as your stereotype of the worst of them? its just not based in reality. and it runs contrary to the mission of this website. the awakening is far from over. we have far too much waking to do to dismiss the case as hopeless. there are still plenty of moderate democrats that we can point to the right information to help them understand. the migration from the left to the right has increased from a trickle to a flood, as per the overton window.
so yeah, since we're here to wake people up, I think asserting we cannot counts as dooming. its not even true by your own measure, if you're waiting for 'exposure' to finally change some peoples mind. its frustrating to argue with friends or family who remain unconvinced, but its also ignorant to expect them to wake up on your timing instead of their own. so instead of venting about how hopeless it is, maybe just change your target, change your tactic, or pray on it.
I'm not dismissing anyone, nor am I dismissing them as hopeless, but rather calling them out on their current bad behavior. I'm certainly based in reality despite what you may think. (More of that condescension towards your fellow anons when you disagree?) The "mission of this website"? It sure isn't looking at BS wrapped in nice paper and calling it goodness.
Where did I ever assert that we cannot continue to wake people up or that I feel they're hopeless? I never did; that's your projection of my calling out their current bad behavior. I'm not giving up on them, but I'm not going to pretend they aren't behaving very badly. That would be like standing in front of a burning building and calling it mostly peaceful. If your five-year-old throws a tantrum you don't pretend they didn't, but you correct the bad behavior and move on. For some reason you're translating my criticism of the bad behavior of those remaining on the left as my dooming and giving up on them and that's interesting if not curious.
the parent is as responsible for the tantrum as the child is, and doesn't serve anyone by insulting the child. there's a reason they're at where they're at, and those who have failed to teach are just as guilty as those who have failed to learn. direct your ire at those who have gone to great lengths to intentionally keep your friends and family in the dark. whose will is really behind this ignorance
Already greasing the skids I see.... People have talked about this possibility since RFK Jr announced. I expect they will be paired in some way for 2024
Trump is cheated out of the Republican nomination. RFK Jr is cheated out of the democrat nomination. An independent Trump/JFK Jr ticket is formed and kicks the shit out of the establishment. Just a thought.
Write-ins can be very effective. If you think about it, that is how we expose the cheating wholesale, IMVHO.
Exactly. Forget registered voters, they would have to ballot dump past actual population. It would be easier for them to cancel the elections.
An interesting guess.
Fwiw, my current guess is that 2023/24 will be more like a mature version of 2015/16.
Im guessing that like Bernie, RFK Jr will be successfully cheated out of the nomination. Additionally, like they did in 2015/16, they will try to cheat Trump out of the nomination. Once again, they will fail..
When these things happen, what will RFK Jr do? What will his supporters do?
Hopefully enough will emulate 2016 Bernie bros who revenge voted for Trump to btfo the people they hate more than drumpf.
Trump and Kennedy gonna tag team these mentally dead motherfuckers. Let’s fuckin go!!!
Wahoo! I love your thinking!
The PBD podcast a couple of days ago had Col. Douglas MacGregor on and they talked about this (DJT/RFK third party). He also said he thinks the odds are pretty good there won't be a 2024 election.
Long podcast but really worth the listen. It is broken up in parts on YT, but here is the whole thing.
https://www.youtube.com/live/o92oSgU17Lo?feature=share
I think Flynn is likely pushing RFK Jr so the Democraps can watch them cheat him out of the nomination.
That seems to be the running theory among anons.
Flynn already said we can’t win 24 due to the machines. Time for liberals to feel the heat.
Exactly. They won't believe in election fraud until it happens to their guy.
It already did. Bernie beat HRC and she had it rigged against him, or so I’ve read. His supporters didn’t do much of anything after that, except despise Trump. And get another nose ring.
Enough of bernies supporters woke up and joined with us to btfo Hillary. At the time it was called hate voting or revenge voting.
They hated her and the DNC more than they despised Trump. Trump became their murder weapon.
These dynamics are far more in play now than they were in 2016.
#TheGreatAwakeningIsSpreading
"You can't tell people. You must show them". -- Q
In other words most people figure things out based on their own experiences. This used to be called being enrolled at " the school of hard knocks".
Bernie Bros aren't some fringe group. Both times Bernie was running away with it, Shrillary did not expect a long protracted fight for the nom. A lot of leftists dislike their party as much as we dislike ours. Getting Biden as their nom would be like us getting Jeb or Kasich. Enough Bernie Bros defected, about 15%, to have made the difference. In fact if you look at our margins of victory, it would be about that same number.
Seth Rich agrees with this comment.
"get another nose ring" LOL I love the statements made here on GAW! I wish we could have a big GAW alumni party somewhere!
I love that idea, actually. Probably it would lead to some great new relationships of all kinds.
I agree! Time spent with GAW frens is time well spent! ❤️
Maybe machines will have algorithms undone like McInernney has indicated something was done in 2016 to give Trump a level playing field.
We’ll see.
I think the trick is as to let everyone see how quickly things could get better in America. The cabal had to “reset” things so fast it made people wake up. You don’t go from having the best economy in the nations history to one of the worst in the world in just 6 months by accident.
I think he's part of the Q plan & knows RFK will be Trump\s VP
Sounds like he’s setting the stage for a dual party ticket
STILL VOTING TRUMP!
Would be interesting to see RFK picked as Secretary of State under Trump. A position usually held by the slimiest of the slimy, since state and cia are essentially joined at the hip. The biggest fuck you to the deep state possible. Put a descendant of the guy you whacked in charge of the whole damn thing.
Your screen name deserves a pulitzer prize.
Thanks! Don’t even drink anymore. I used to be quite boozy in my military days. I guess I will always self identify as a fuckface who smells like stale whiskey.
That would be epic
And so... "It Begins"
Let it be said on this day of this year of our Lord... Amen.
NCSWIC, nothing.
I assume he meant that "are atypical politicians"
either way, I think RFK is serving to awaken those that will listen to him because he's a Kennedy, a Democrat, looks good with his shirt off or whatever drives one to respect his opinion over Trump's or other truth tellers
I understand the narrative of having him cheated out of the primary, but I don’t like raising this guy up. He is everything we despise in liberals. He may have some conservative views on a few things but he is much more left than recent sound bites make him out to be.
Counter point. There is no way in hell that the dem party is gunna let Kennedy win. We need to "raise this guy up" for the very reason that he will be a thorn in the sides of the deep state but the attacks will be coming from their left (Kennedy) while also coming from their right (PDJT). No dems are going to listen to PDJT but many of them WILL question the narrative if the criticism is coming from THEIR side. Plus, Senior Kennedy es muy whoppo sin camisa (Totally not gay).
Fwiw, I often find I have more in common with and more admiration for people who wore/wear political labels like liberal or democrat than I do with those who label themselves as conservatives or republicans.
As Q said repeatedly, the OWO/NWO Death Cult need us to remain DIVIDED, full of hate for each other and fighting amongst ourselves. That's the only way "The Small Club" stays in power.
Rejecting the Death Cults psyops == UNITING and FOCUSING on DEFEATING the Death Cult that threatens us all.
"Lord of the Rings" is a fictional masterpiece. Like all fictional masterpieces, "Lord of the Rings" conveys transcendent, timeless TRUTHs in ways no work of non fiction can.
Bottom line, God bless our Gandalf, Trump, and his allies, like General Flynn, who are willing to set aside legitimate differences in order to join Gandalf Trumps Anti NWO Mordor Alliance because they realize everyones SURVIVAL is on the line.
#TheFinalBattle. #WinOrPerish #OurTime2Choose
Any plans to fix america will need to fix both parties. Trump fixed the republicans and RFK will fix the democrats. We will have two guys. One taking out RINOs and one taking out DINOs
Two major things wrong with Kennedy (well three, since he's a Kennedy :) , 1) he's a Democrat, and 2) he is fully on board with "climate crisis". His climate view is the reason he is for nuclear power.
5: 2A.
And no, don't try to tell me how "his recent statement" shows he's pro-gun.
Search engines hide Croakus Kennedy's anti-gun agenda. Nearly all searches about his position on 2A direct straight away to "recent comments." Anyone can search that for themselves to see first hand how big tech manipulates searches for their radical left agenda, and see how fake and gay their propaganda machine truly is.
STILL VOTING FOR TRUMP
This guy runs as third party, ala Perot in 92, splits the demoncrat vote, and DJT wins it.
Maybe he is the foil in the DeSantis 3rd party bullshit.
I believe Trump and Kennedy are working together. Hasn't the name Kennedy been a large angle of The Great Awakening? The Vincent Fuscha & lady next to him in 2015 rallies that looked like Carolyn Bessette. WWG1WGA on Kennedys boat. RFK Jr rubbing his nose on Zoom call when asked if JFK Jr was alive. I know I'm missing a few, so if Q is real than seems to me that Kennedy and Trump are working togetner
Right there with ya, fren.
This is misdirection…but in the right direction. As I said in the other thread, they are trying to get rid of Joe. It’s shown as republicans doing this through the house, impeachment. But the Dems want this as well. But they can’t admit that publicly. It’s why they are going Gavin Newsom, their other talking head. So..our great Gen. Flynn here is pointing this out. RFK Jr is a force to be reckon with, no doubt. The fact that the Dems run from him is kinda hilarious. What he’s saying they have been hiding for decades. He’s very similar to Trump, but for the democrats. RFK is there to up root the old guard. He’s loud and the fact the Dems do not want anything to do with him is why this needs pointing out by Flynn.
Imagine a debate stage with RFK Jr and Trump. They would agree on so many things, which would expose the deepstate and cabal relentlessly. Of course they have to have differences because, parties. But the exposure would be un-freaking-believable. To me this is part of the plan. Seems to perfect. But, a much steeper hill because, we’ll it’s the Dems. They don’t care what their voter base thinks. They pick who they want and go.
I just can’t find it in my heart to trust anyone from the Kennedy clan. The three honest ones got killed off decades ago.
Couple that with the fact the I have never and won’t ever vote for any democrat, he goes right on by me.
He says some nice things but his history says it all, he’s a tax and spend, abrogate our rights communist.
While an understandable mindset, hopefully enough life long Democrats won't share this mindset and instead will vote for President Trump even though he's running as a Republican.
Hopefully enough people share President Trumps attitude that he doesn't really think of himself in terms of political labels. Instead, he prefers to think of himself as a common sense person who loves American and Our American Family even those who are still sick and hate full.
What if he's Trump\s VP?
Nope! He’s a Kennedy and a democrat.
So if it's Trump & RFK vs Biden & Kamala, who would you vote for?
Only Trump. Even if I have to write him in and leave the VP blank.
I doubt that RFK Jr. would get the nod from the convention.
I think the General would be an ideal VP.
Sec of state
Flynn forgot the word "bad", RFK is a real "bad" deal.
No. Flynn is (or was) a registered democrat, and he is letting his party feels slip through here. Unity with the left is like a dog wanting unity with fleas. Kennedy is a POS political candidate who knows how to whisper "sweet nothings" into the ears of voters. But, we can count on him to choke when it really matters to American freedom and liberty- just like the uni-party republicans.
Besides, America is sick and tired of political dynasty's. We ain't doing a Kennedy- perhaps with an exception for Louisiana senator Kennedy ;)
unity with democrat voters is not the same as unity with the deep state.
"democrat voters" = wilfully-ignorant voters + malevolent commies.
I like the Q take on this -- that "... The [D] party will cease to exist once it's all exposed. ..."
https://qalerts.app/?q=%232635
The same could be said of Republican voters pre-Trump. Every one of us was asleep at some point or another. The only difference is when and how we wake up.
I don't disagree at all and hope that those in the non-malevolent, wilfully-ignorant category can be reached and removed from the equation in time by waking them up. There seems to be some pushback in even criticizing those who are still behaving poorly and I'm going to hold my ground there. This awakening is, in fact, teaching people the hard way that there are actual, sometimes very bad, sometimes even fatal consequences for bad behavior and wilful ignorance.
Do I want any of these people to suffer? Absolutely not! I want every last one of them to awaken. Even looking at these radical, violent antifa turds I think of what a shame to see such energetic, physically healthy young people with such severe mental and/or moral deficiencies. I think this is why Q states that the [D] party will cease to exist. It's not that we want leftist individuals to "cease to exist" (as living, breathing people), but rather the party be exposed and for current leftists to walk away from it. I voted for Bush Jr - the first time - but could not, would not vote for his second term after seeing him in action. And I called out his bad behavior to friends on both sides of the aisle while he was behaving poorly.
how is it willful ignorance when there is a concerted and expensive effort to keep them ignorant?
if it were willfull ignorance, exposure wouldn't make any difference at all. luckily that, for the most part, isn't the case.
... Furthermore, since they seem to be brainwashed by the FNM, the WH have made great strides in weaning many of them off the DS narrative teat. I'm one of those who wades into the detestable FNM swamp periodically to see what the left is being fed for narrative and it's been interesting to watch the changes.
I'm all for unity and allowing those strong enough to break their programming back into the fold, so to speak, but as long as those remaining on the left continue to reject both sides of an argument in favor of what they want or fear to be "true" I'll continue to consider them wilfully-ignorant.
Sorry, but have you tried to offer these people facts on a topic that they don't want to believe is true? I have, many times over the years (not just the recent jab data) and they refuse to even consider it. That's wilful ignorance. They want to believe in global cooling, global warming, climate change, standing room only or any number of other fear-inducing BS they get fed and no amount of data from actual scientists who aren't in line with the DS narrative will ever be even considered.
from their point of view, its simply unlikely that you're correct, and require more evidence. you're saying that providing evidence (exposure) will make a difference, so you can't also say they won't consider it, or evidence wouldn't work.
also, global cooling is not one of theirs.. isn't that a DJT quote?
Global cooling came before global warming which then morphed into climate change since people with long memories had begun to call them (DS) out on their 180-degree turnaround on fear porn tactics. They even did a movie on it in 2004, The Day After Tomorrow. I know which DJT quote you're speaking of, but this goes back decades. I'll try to dig up the name of that movie. Edit: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319262/
Again, regarding wilful ignorance... No, it's not that it requires more evidence - they won't consider the evidence you have. Whether it's fear or just desire to believe something their FNM tells them to believe they won't even look at it. Case in point (anecdotal) I sent a far left friend info on the dangers of those jabs and this person wouldn't even read it, said "Oh, that's from a partisan source". This person subsequently ended up with shingles and other neurological health problems. They refused to even read what was sent to them.
I've watched FNM talking heads tell their viewers specifically to not listen to any information which contradicts what they're telling them (the narrative) - and the sheep acquiesce! As long as I can remember, if someone told me to not listen to one side of a story, I went to seek that opposing view immediately. You cannot make sound decisions based on half an argument.
I'm not suggesting we give up the fight to get these people to break their programming, but you and I seem to differ on what to think of them while they're still under the throes of their well-funded brainwashing. I think it's destructive to them - and obviously to society/humanity as an entirety - for us to continue to mollycoddle them and pretend that their shitty behavior isn't shitty. And it's obvious to me that the spell of FNM needs to continue to be broken because our sheep are not listening to people who know and love them, but to FNM talking heads and DS "experts".
I love my leftist friends and want them to break free of their emotional chains, but as adults they're responsible for their words and actions. Tolerating bad behavior hasn't worked out well for them or for society as a whole.
you are making my case for me... your friend thinks it unlikely that you are correct, and you are expecting them to change their mind according to your timing, instead of their own. that's not how this works. if you want to effectively redpill, you have to learn how to work with their timing instead of fighting it. you don't pick the fruit on the same day you plant the seed, my guy. that is an unreasonable expectation.
i agree that fukl exposure of the crimes will help. and i agree that they are ruled by fear. but there is a lot of fear on our side as well, and we often make the mistake of trying to scare the left into agreeing with us. its much easier to change minds by looking comfy.
The entirety of the democrat party defends, and even cheers the lawless behavior of the commie-democrats. There isn't even a question about it, just look at how they vote in congress- all for BS impeachments vs. Trump; all in support of the blatantly flawed fraud 2020 election; all in support of HRC and her crime spree; all in support of a zillion govt. coverups; all refuse to challenge the two-tier justice system; etc. And, all in support of Adam Schiff. Watch the clip of McCarthy censuring Schiff, and listen to the democrats yelling over him as if Schiff doesn't deserve the censure- they actually support his crimes too.
They are pathetic hypocrites, every single one of them. The whole party has embraced hypocrisy as its guiding principle. There is no "unity" to be had with people like that. Croakus Kennedy offers nothing for America, except to legitimize the worst of what the democrat party has become, and we cannot afford to give those outlaws even 1 inch of legitimacy.
the left is fueled by ignorance. plenty of their voters haven't even heard of whats going on. ...and there are those on the right who are just as uninformed, but vote red out of habit, maybe for a RINO every time.
it has cost our adversaries trillions to mislead humans to the degree they have been. and frankly it doesn't sound like you interact with anyone outside this echo chamber, and probably don't speak any more accurately about them than they do about us.
Your condescension towards a differing opinion aside, I have to disagree with you that anon u/ToxicLibertyism sounds like he/she doesn't interact with "anyone outside this echo chamber" and isn't speaking accurately about them. I have many friends on the left, some who have been friends for decades, and wilfully-ignorant, virtue-signaling and hypocritical are just a few of the many unflattering, but apt, descriptions of what these people are, particularly in the realm of politics. Furthermore, TL's description of the behavior of the left in Congress is absolutely true. I would also add that the left is fueled by FEAR.
When I say "all democrats..." it is in reference only to political figures. Individual voters are not the same as the party. The topic of the tread is Flynn foolishly thinking that there is any sort of "unity" to be found with elected democrats.
We as a people who care about protecting our nation, our society, and our way of life simply cannot afford to compromise with the deranged [elected party officials] democrats. They have all proven to be wicked hypocrites who consistently vote against the rule of law, and in support of criminal govt. abuses of power. They are controlled by actual communists determined to destroy every shred of this so-called "democracy" idea. There can never be "unity" with that ideology, period.
I agree that the true, current ideology of the left needs to be exposed. The current left is not like it was decades ago. They always wrapped their ineffectual policies in flowery words, but they weren't anything like the malevolent entity they've become today. As some former leftists have proclaimed, they didn't leave their party, their party left them. Why the rank-and-file, current, democrat-supporting, average citizen refuses to acknowledge this is largely due to the FNM, IMHO.
Indeed. The current iterations (in terms of party leadership, and direction) of both the democrat party, and the republican party are both vastly different than what they were decades ago. Both have slid far to the left. The Cold War never ended.
FNM? What is that? Thanks.
my condescension towards a differing opinion? while you defend dismissing a whole demographic as your stereotype of the worst of them? its just not based in reality. and it runs contrary to the mission of this website. the awakening is far from over. we have far too much waking to do to dismiss the case as hopeless. there are still plenty of moderate democrats that we can point to the right information to help them understand. the migration from the left to the right has increased from a trickle to a flood, as per the overton window.
so yeah, since we're here to wake people up, I think asserting we cannot counts as dooming. its not even true by your own measure, if you're waiting for 'exposure' to finally change some peoples mind. its frustrating to argue with friends or family who remain unconvinced, but its also ignorant to expect them to wake up on your timing instead of their own. so instead of venting about how hopeless it is, maybe just change your target, change your tactic, or pray on it.
I'm not dismissing anyone, nor am I dismissing them as hopeless, but rather calling them out on their current bad behavior. I'm certainly based in reality despite what you may think. (More of that condescension towards your fellow anons when you disagree?) The "mission of this website"? It sure isn't looking at BS wrapped in nice paper and calling it goodness.
Where did I ever assert that we cannot continue to wake people up or that I feel they're hopeless? I never did; that's your projection of my calling out their current bad behavior. I'm not giving up on them, but I'm not going to pretend they aren't behaving very badly. That would be like standing in front of a burning building and calling it mostly peaceful. If your five-year-old throws a tantrum you don't pretend they didn't, but you correct the bad behavior and move on. For some reason you're translating my criticism of the bad behavior of those remaining on the left as my dooming and giving up on them and that's interesting if not curious.
the parent is as responsible for the tantrum as the child is, and doesn't serve anyone by insulting the child. there's a reason they're at where they're at, and those who have failed to teach are just as guilty as those who have failed to learn. direct your ire at those who have gone to great lengths to intentionally keep your friends and family in the dark. whose will is really behind this ignorance
Ya , I'd like to see that first. Then we'll talk about that POTUS seat... But right now , Trump maga
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Already greasing the skids I see.... People have talked about this possibility since RFK Jr announced. I expect they will be paired in some way for 2024