Let’s see, be subjected to having whatever you lease taken away, be subjected to annual increases in the lease payment, oh and instead of one day actually owning something and not paying on it, be forever in debt. Sounds wonderful.
No matter how many times my father tries to explain how leases work well for businesses, & sometimes individuals, I just don't get it.
I can see some quick term gains in some instances, & if you own the property being leased it can be a cash cow for you.
I personally would rather own everything instead of the issues that can come up with leases. That said, if the location is right & you cannot own the property yourself, then it could make sense from a cash flow perspective to lease that property if it is the only option.
An overlooked aspect of this is that it will end generational wealth building. You won't be able to pass anything down to your children because you won't own anything. For any money you might accumulate the inheritance tax will be 100%
Doubt it will end generational wealth building. The wealth will just be concentrated in the cabal families. Don't think for a minute, that these scumbags will make sacrifices for the greater good...
I am not entirely sure about that. I know it looks that way but I believe that the most wealthy put everything into trust. "Trust" is a UK term, I am not sure how it translates. It is a kind of non-profit organisation. There are trustees who run and control the trust and they can award themselves any benefits.
One of the advantages, in the UK at least, is that you do not get hit by inheritance taxes because you do not own anything. You just need to ensure that you pass control on to the next generation before you die.
My guess is that the super-rich will try to get us to let go of everything and then they will use trusts to keep it in their families for posterity. Maybe we should preempt them and make our own arrangements first?
Yes, that's right but does it actually matter? If you still have total control over everything and it can pay you a salary for looking after it etc, why do you actually need to own it? Is it actually a real issue or is it just a mindset thing?
I know people with company cars. They do not fret over not owning the vehicle and they get to do pretty much whatever they want with it. How would ownership make things better for them?
Hardest hit here will be the working poor. They can't live rent free in the old house on family property because they won't inherit it. Won't be able to move in to help out the old folks before they die without having the rent raised.
I've noticed a change in the way people under 40 think in terms of private property; there is a growing attitude of "nobody has a right to own more than me". I think the trend of more people renting and more people dependent on the government fuels this attitude. Home ownership is probably the most important economic factor associated with a capitalistic mindset. If you create a society where only the "wealthy" own homes, then the system is ripe for outright fascism or worse.
Here i am with my morning coffee reading this and as soon as i read "Why don't you lease your cell phone?" All i could think of is "Because i don't want to pay a rediculous payment plan and i like having things that i know are mine.". Along with "Stupid Eurotrash bitch." But that was one if the nicer things i said about her.
Exactly. Why don't you want to keep paying all the time and having to scrounge up another item when your lease is up? Besides, the predators at the top of the creepy pyramid will own everything, be totally secure and hidden, and we won't. There is no such thing as an egalitarian society. She's an idiot if she expects us to be such idiots.
Oh so we make crappy shit that breaks down all the time to convince you not to buy it, then when we have you on the forever payment plan, we make good shit that doesn’t break.
Yes, and in the forever payment scenario they will pass on the savings (from longer-lasting products) to the customer. If we fall for this sales pitch we deserve to get hosed.
Bingo. She uses cell phones as an example of a product that many people lease instead of owning. Are cell phones built to last? And how do people treat items they lease instead of own?
And the biggest use of the cell phone is a GPS tracking, thought following, blackmail harvesting, individual ID marking, spy device for the Intelligence Communities to know everything they need to know to arrest and lock up dissenters. They use them to blackmail politicians, business leaders, church leaders, community leaders, and everyone else with influence or not.
And we pay for this tracking and data harvesting. We give away our rights when we sign their terms of service.
Most people, not most people here, have no idea what they've given away by signing up for a cell phone and downloading all the "free apps" they use everyday.
If we are ruled by man, this is a terrible idea. If we are ruled by God, it's the only option in my eyes. I've been feeling for a while now that it isn't right for us to charge for goods when the materials to produce them come from God's creation. Charging for the labor required to produce them is another thing entirely!
The reason companies are forced to make cheap shit in overseas factories that breaks and needs to be replaced is because of fiat currency and the resulting inflation. That’s it . That’s all there is. Get rid of fiat currency and replace it with something stable and people will be incentivized to make quality goods again.
So who is the owner of these things that will be leased?
Remember: To LEASE something is to be a BORROWER.
and we all know this truth...
The borrower is the slave to the lender.
Destroys incentive to work hard to get ahead, in Communism, there is no incentive to work hard to achieve anything. Want a new car? Want a house? Want a boat? Want a swimming pool? No pay raises, no promotions, all ya gotta do is show up for work and you get exactly what the next guy gets…
If you just follow the logic (and ignore the evil in the elite ranks) she makes some sense. It is only when you apply reality that the skepticism takes hold.
Who would design a vaccine that is more deadly than the disease it is meant to suppress?
Who would send hundreds of billions of dollars to a corrupt country to protect its borders while opening the sending country's borders to millions of military age men of unknown origin, and then pay to resettle them in all fifty states?
Any other examples of upside down policies? (Just think Democrat platform)
I don't get they part where the company is in charge of fixing it. I've used protection plans and insurance, it seems like repairs are faster when there isn't a company involved. I would rather if some companies schedule wasn't in charge of when I get to wash my clothes again.
Leasing any material property means that you do not own it. This opens up a large array of tools to circumvent personal Rights. Need to unlock a cell phone? Just contact the owners. Need to search a property? Just ask the owners. Need to deny someone access to something? Just ask the owners. The prices can be raised or lowered as needed to provide access to some and deny access to others. The problem is accentuated when you start the conversation with durable goods. Housing is one of the most dramatic of these. You can buy a house today and know how much you will be paying a year from now, five years from now, 20 years from now. The payment does not change (unless you fall for an ARM). You can pay off a home and have only maintenance and tax costs for a fraction of what all these things cost when you have all three. Having a paid off mortgage is one of the most liberating and joyous of milestones. This allows you to build up greater wealth and provide tremendous security and freedom. When you rent or lease, none of this is possible. Don't fall for the interest deduction tax farce. Sit down and do the math. Pay off your home and you have a sense of accomplishment and satisfaction that you have never experienced before. Do it while you have plenty of work life ahead of you and you will not believe how much money you generate without this millstone around your neck.
Why would a Corporation bother developing a better new model when the old one has a guaranteed income stream? Apple can keep manufacturing the current iPhone model forever, just enough to replace the ones that break.
No ownership thing is a fancy way of saying neo-feudalism. When you boil it down, that is what the “elites” want. They believe that this freedom/democracy thing is a flash in the pan of history fad that will go away and they will control the winners when it does.
Yep, and people like in video games are opting for that digital access due to "ease." Which eventually becomes cloud based gaming and selective allowed games.
This is already happening to movies and music, and they sure as hell could do it to you with an electric car.
Well, Hmmmm I always tell my friends that I rent life, cost me and my family $150 per day or $6.25 per hour. Note to self average male eats 2lbs of food per day. Retail price on food is $8.00 per lb. Cook, drive thru or process.
They see multiple generations before them with houses, cars, weekend boats/ jet skis/ whatever and they’re struggling to pay rent.
They not only want somewhere to live, for close to nothing, they want anyone who has more to be punished.
We are dealing with an entire generation of kids and young adults who have been indoctrinated from birth to hate their elders, and to put it more bluntly the human race.
Having been close to a renown USA university & having rented to a number of these types, yes, there is a certain "morality" that some of these kids exude, that goes along these lines. Especially among the types that think themselves as leader types.
There are notable exception though. Back when you could still post slightly controversial stuff on Fakebook. One of them thanked me for things I posted about the shot. I know he never took it, even though his University (here in the US) threatened him. They eventually did nothing to him about it, etc There was a time when he couldn't fly back home once because of it all & I offered him whatever I could if he needed help but he never needed anything. I should probably write him again, sometime
That's conflicting with American values.
Aka that's simply communism
Unfortunately so many people bought into the whole "sure it's great but it's outdated and needs to be updated" when referring to our constitution
Let’s see, be subjected to having whatever you lease taken away, be subjected to annual increases in the lease payment, oh and instead of one day actually owning something and not paying on it, be forever in debt. Sounds wonderful.
No matter how many times my father tries to explain how leases work well for businesses, & sometimes individuals, I just don't get it.
I can see some quick term gains in some instances, & if you own the property being leased it can be a cash cow for you.
I personally would rather own everything instead of the issues that can come up with leases. That said, if the location is right & you cannot own the property yourself, then it could make sense from a cash flow perspective to lease that property if it is the only option.
Mostly it works on paper in theory.
If the car dealer is pushing you to lease instead of buy, which one do you think benefits THEM more?
If it's the lease, then which one would benefit YOU more? Buying.
Do that one.
Not that complicated.
u/#correct
An overlooked aspect of this is that it will end generational wealth building. You won't be able to pass anything down to your children because you won't own anything. For any money you might accumulate the inheritance tax will be 100%
Doubt it will end generational wealth building. The wealth will just be concentrated in the cabal families. Don't think for a minute, that these scumbags will make sacrifices for the greater good...
"Overlooked" > Deliberately disguised
There, I've edited it for you!
(excellent comment, btw)
I am not entirely sure about that. I know it looks that way but I believe that the most wealthy put everything into trust. "Trust" is a UK term, I am not sure how it translates. It is a kind of non-profit organisation. There are trustees who run and control the trust and they can award themselves any benefits.
One of the advantages, in the UK at least, is that you do not get hit by inheritance taxes because you do not own anything. You just need to ensure that you pass control on to the next generation before you die.
My guess is that the super-rich will try to get us to let go of everything and then they will use trusts to keep it in their families for posterity. Maybe we should preempt them and make our own arrangements first?
Caveat: I am not a lawyer or financial advisor.
You won't own anything to put into a trust. That's the point.
Yes, that's right but does it actually matter? If you still have total control over everything and it can pay you a salary for looking after it etc, why do you actually need to own it? Is it actually a real issue or is it just a mindset thing?
I know people with company cars. They do not fret over not owning the vehicle and they get to do pretty much whatever they want with it. How would ownership make things better for them?
Hardest hit here will be the working poor. They can't live rent free in the old house on family property because they won't inherit it. Won't be able to move in to help out the old folks before they die without having the rent raised.
I've noticed a change in the way people under 40 think in terms of private property; there is a growing attitude of "nobody has a right to own more than me". I think the trend of more people renting and more people dependent on the government fuels this attitude. Home ownership is probably the most important economic factor associated with a capitalistic mindset. If you create a society where only the "wealthy" own homes, then the system is ripe for outright fascism or worse.
It's feudalism. Exactly what the cabal wants.
Slavery by another name.
Yes that & it has gotten harder & harder for young people to buy homes in some areas
I'm older and I remember kids thinking this way back in the seventies.
Lease = subscription service, never paid off
Purchase = paid off or eventually paid off
Here i am with my morning coffee reading this and as soon as i read "Why don't you lease your cell phone?" All i could think of is "Because i don't want to pay a rediculous payment plan and i like having things that i know are mine.". Along with "Stupid Eurotrash bitch." But that was one if the nicer things i said about her.
Exactly. Why don't you want to keep paying all the time and having to scrounge up another item when your lease is up? Besides, the predators at the top of the creepy pyramid will own everything, be totally secure and hidden, and we won't. There is no such thing as an egalitarian society. She's an idiot if she expects us to be such idiots.
They sell it as convenience. But they ignore the fact you have no right to repair how you want or sell the product second hand.
Oh so we make crappy shit that breaks down all the time to convince you not to buy it, then when we have you on the forever payment plan, we make good shit that doesn’t break.
These assholes are so manipulative.
Yes, and in the forever payment scenario they will pass on the savings (from longer-lasting products) to the customer. If we fall for this sales pitch we deserve to get hosed.
Bingo. She uses cell phones as an example of a product that many people lease instead of owning. Are cell phones built to last? And how do people treat items they lease instead of own?
And the biggest use of the cell phone is a GPS tracking, thought following, blackmail harvesting, individual ID marking, spy device for the Intelligence Communities to know everything they need to know to arrest and lock up dissenters. They use them to blackmail politicians, business leaders, church leaders, community leaders, and everyone else with influence or not.
And we pay for this tracking and data harvesting. We give away our rights when we sign their terms of service.
Most people, not most people here, have no idea what they've given away by signing up for a cell phone and downloading all the "free apps" they use everyday.
As they say...
Can I lease my ammo at a cheaper price if I return it in good, used condition?
Wow this is like being in credit card debt you're entire life.
You will be a slave to keep working to afford all these leases.
What idiots would buy into this?
If we are ruled by man, this is a terrible idea. If we are ruled by God, it's the only option in my eyes. I've been feeling for a while now that it isn't right for us to charge for goods when the materials to produce them come from God's creation. Charging for the labor required to produce them is another thing entirely!
Amen.
The reason companies are forced to make cheap shit in overseas factories that breaks and needs to be replaced is because of fiat currency and the resulting inflation. That’s it . That’s all there is. Get rid of fiat currency and replace it with something stable and people will be incentivized to make quality goods again.
So who is the owner of these things that will be leased? Remember: To LEASE something is to be a BORROWER. and we all know this truth... The borrower is the slave to the lender.
If you lease something, then you're paying for it each month...forever. 💲💲💲
Destroys incentive to work hard to get ahead, in Communism, there is no incentive to work hard to achieve anything. Want a new car? Want a house? Want a boat? Want a swimming pool? No pay raises, no promotions, all ya gotta do is show up for work and you get exactly what the next guy gets…
Do you own your own underwear? Or lease it
I see this as a creepy person's fantasy....
"So Clarise, who used your underwear last week?" 😨
There’s good money in selling used underwear. See PantyDeal.
I think I will take your word for that & am not suprised.
If they had their way, the used panty market would be another ecosystem they could use to launder secrets. They probably already do 🤔
If you just follow the logic (and ignore the evil in the elite ranks) she makes some sense. It is only when you apply reality that the skepticism takes hold.
Who would design a vaccine that is more deadly than the disease it is meant to suppress?
Who would send hundreds of billions of dollars to a corrupt country to protect its borders while opening the sending country's borders to millions of military age men of unknown origin, and then pay to resettle them in all fifty states?
Any other examples of upside down policies? (Just think Democrat platform)
I don't get they part where the company is in charge of fixing it. I've used protection plans and insurance, it seems like repairs are faster when there isn't a company involved. I would rather if some companies schedule wasn't in charge of when I get to wash my clothes again.
Hard no. Who do these people think they are?!
Children of the Beast
Leasing any material property means that you do not own it. This opens up a large array of tools to circumvent personal Rights. Need to unlock a cell phone? Just contact the owners. Need to search a property? Just ask the owners. Need to deny someone access to something? Just ask the owners. The prices can be raised or lowered as needed to provide access to some and deny access to others. The problem is accentuated when you start the conversation with durable goods. Housing is one of the most dramatic of these. You can buy a house today and know how much you will be paying a year from now, five years from now, 20 years from now. The payment does not change (unless you fall for an ARM). You can pay off a home and have only maintenance and tax costs for a fraction of what all these things cost when you have all three. Having a paid off mortgage is one of the most liberating and joyous of milestones. This allows you to build up greater wealth and provide tremendous security and freedom. When you rent or lease, none of this is possible. Don't fall for the interest deduction tax farce. Sit down and do the math. Pay off your home and you have a sense of accomplishment and satisfaction that you have never experienced before. Do it while you have plenty of work life ahead of you and you will not believe how much money you generate without this millstone around your neck.
I wonder what company she'll rent her refrigerator from ? nah, just kidding. She thinks she get's a pass.
Why would a Corporation bother developing a better new model when the old one has a guaranteed income stream? Apple can keep manufacturing the current iPhone model forever, just enough to replace the ones that break.
Germans.
They just can't control themselves, can they?
Always with the totalitarianism.
FTFY
Leader my ass, He's a communist zombie.
Dude wants a future where we own nothing. His ilk will own everything if they have their way. Which they won't.
These people are really stupid.
No ownership thing is a fancy way of saying neo-feudalism. When you boil it down, that is what the “elites” want. They believe that this freedom/democracy thing is a flash in the pan of history fad that will go away and they will control the winners when it does.
Yep, and people like in video games are opting for that digital access due to "ease." Which eventually becomes cloud based gaming and selective allowed games.
This is already happening to movies and music, and they sure as hell could do it to you with an electric car.
future without ownership is just practical application of communism. kids that love communism will eat this kind of shit up np.
Well, Hmmmm I always tell my friends that I rent life, cost me and my family $150 per day or $6.25 per hour. Note to self average male eats 2lbs of food per day. Retail price on food is $8.00 per lb. Cook, drive thru or process.
Ah, there it is, “you’ll own nothing and be happy.”
“You’ll get nothing and like it”
With the very near future being cashless with CBDC’s, I’m not to worried about that part yet
This is comical if not so sad. For them. Don’t worry friends these whoevers will all fall silent very very soon
Of course they’re buying into it.
They see multiple generations before them with houses, cars, weekend boats/ jet skis/ whatever and they’re struggling to pay rent.
They not only want somewhere to live, for close to nothing, they want anyone who has more to be punished.
We are dealing with an entire generation of kids and young adults who have been indoctrinated from birth to hate their elders, and to put it more bluntly the human race.
Having been close to a renown USA university & having rented to a number of these types, yes, there is a certain "morality" that some of these kids exude, that goes along these lines. Especially among the types that think themselves as leader types.
There are notable exception though. Back when you could still post slightly controversial stuff on Fakebook. One of them thanked me for things I posted about the shot. I know he never took it, even though his University (here in the US) threatened him. They eventually did nothing to him about it, etc There was a time when he couldn't fly back home once because of it all & I offered him whatever I could if he needed help but he never needed anything. I should probably write him again, sometime