Someone's still going to have to comb through these every single time.
I'm really against the need for AI to read long bills. If they're that long they shouldn't be voted on at all. If the average person can't read them in full in an hour or so it shouldn't be even brought up for debate.
I could see this opening the door to massive bills that AI reads and summarizes into a few hours of reading.. but it skips key pieces (either programmed after elon dies, programmed without his knowledge to skip), and everyone votes on the bill that has a clause 'everyone will willfully be enslaved when this is passed'
I completely agree. No more omnibus bills where the entire kitchen sink is thrown in. No more Continuing Resolutions either.
All of us have to figure out how to pay our bills on time. All of us have to budget and save accordingly. Our reps are supposed to represent us. Time to act as we do.
Bills should be itemized with simple up down votes.
I know I am barking at the wind. But just wanted to say it.
If I had the money, I would send 535 quills and ink pots to Congress and then to our state houses as well. Bills should be written with a quill so the temptation of producing verbal diarrhea via word processing is discouraged. It was good enough for our founding fathers. Ergo, it is good enough for our representatives today.
Also, their pay should come from their state not a federal paymaster. They should have whatever their state decides to give them like every other state employee. Then they won't be able to vote.their own pay raises.
That's the problem. We should be able to blindly trust AI, because it's logic based. However, as we've seen the programmers of AI are more than happy to program bias in, we can't trust AI at all. It's a real shame. I use AI, and it gives me code well enough. I test it. But i don't trust it for other things, and have to double check to see if it's lying to me.
Trust because it is logic based? OMG, no, that is how you get a dystopian future. Logic is great but it is also inhuman if it is used exclusively for all decision making. Logically many activities people enjoy should be eliminated. Logically many people should be eliminated.
I see your point, anon, but i wasn't really aiming for that, but more of pure logic away from human programmers injecting their twisted logic like a man can be a woman, etc.
That's just a different degree of bad, though. You should be able to judge bills by the content, and deciding to judge based on title is just another form of blind trust.
Good points. I cannot believe that this utter bullshit of voting on two questions at once is allowed, let alone hundreds of points and questions at once. It's outrageous and should not be tolerated.
AI might be somewhat helpful here and I'm glad Elon is at least attempting to do some good here; but you're right, these programs cannot be trusted. They DO make shit up because they don't know the difference between fact and fiction. If nothing else, no one should ever, ever use it to get medical information. Again: It Makes Shit Up.
Say what you want about MTG but one of the things she did do after Piglosi kicked her off committees was go around hearings insisting that bills were read out in full for the record before votes.
Let's just lock up all of the globalists and go back to living the way we did before this internet/AI foolishness. It's really caused nothing but trouble.
New law: Govt. can only spend tax money in digital form. And, all citizens have access to a free, open source tax money tracking app that we can have on our phones, and computers to track tax spending in real-time, and with complete details on all expenditures- down to pennies spent per second; by whom; to whom, GPS location of spending, etc.
Grok may be the only English word that derives from Martian. Yes, we do mean the language of the planet Mars. No, we're not getting spacey; we've just ventured into the realm of science fiction. Grok was introduced in Robert A. Heinlein's 1961 science fiction novel Stranger in a Strange Land. The book's main character, Valentine Michael Smith, is a Martian-raised human who comes to Earth as an adult, bringing with him words from his native tongue and a unique perspective on the strange ways of earthlings. Grok was quickly adopted by the youth culture of America and has since peppered the vernacular of those who grok it.
Maybe Elon can also help the legal community not bury Brady exculpatory documents in 8 terabytes of evidentiary data next, by making it rise to a separate dataset??
It actually is. Our Founding Fathers set up the legislative Branch to create bills that were specific to one purpose and not convoluted or confusing. What they are doing today is unconstitutional, and goes against the principles upon which our Republic was established.
They are also not supposed to pass any laws that require more than 10 years to pay back.
“The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government...” ~ U. S. Constitution, United States Constitution, Article IV, Section 4
“In short, it is the greatest Absurdity to suppose it in the Power of one or any Number of Men, at the entering into Society, to renounce their essential natural Rights or the Means of preserving those Rights, when the grand End of civil Government, from the very Nature of its Institution, is for the Support, Protection and Defense of those very Rights: The principal of which, as is before observed, are Life, Liberty, and Property.”
~ Samuel Adams (1722-1803), was known as the "Father of the American Revolution."
“The Legislative has no Right to absolute arbitrary Power over the Lives and Fortunes of the People: Nor can Mortals assume a Prerogative not only too high for Men but for Angels, and therefore reserv’d for the Exercise of the Deity alone.”
~ Samuel Adams (1722-1803), was known as the "Father of the American Revolution."
“As long as the law may be diverted from its true purpose -- that it may violate property instead of protecting it -- then everyone will want to participate in making the law, either to protect himself against plunder or to use it for plunder. Political questions will always be prejudicial, dominant, and all-absorbing. There will be fighting to gain access to the legislature as well as fighting within it.” ~ Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850) [Claude Frederic Bastiat] French economist, statesman, and author. He did most of his writing during the years just before -- and immediately following -- the French Revolution of February 1848
Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place. ~ Frederic Bastiat
“Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence.”
~ Justice Tom C. Clark (1899-1977) US Attorney General, 1945-1949, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, 1949-1967
Freedom is not a gift bestowed upon us by other men, but a right that belongs to us by the laws of God and nature. ~ Benjamin Franklin
“No legislative act contrary to the Constitution can be valid. To deny this would be to affirm that the deputy (agent) is greater than his principal; that the servant is above the master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people; that men, acting by virtue of powers may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid. It is not to be supposed that the Constitution could intend to enable the representatives of the people to substitute their will to that of their constituents. A Constitution is, in fact, and must be regarded by judges as fundamental law. If there should happen to be a irreconcilable variance between the two, the Constitution is to be preferred to the statute.” ~ Alexander Hamilton (1757-1804) American statesman, Secretary of the Treasury
AI is a catastrophic disaster to humanity, just like fake news and TV. It will dumb down the population and make them unable to do independent research, as they just consult their AI "expert" that is programmed to twist facts in favor of a narrative that is pushed onto the people.
An similar argument can be made for the internet. We are so heavily dependent on search engines and electronic databases. If the internet goes down, we lose everything. Can't do research, and can't communicate. Nobody knows how to use a library.
It also should parse out unconstitutional portions and then publicize those points across all social media. As well as name the names of those proposing those ideas. Dirty commies need to be exposed.
I don't even remember what year long ago I started bitching about congress not having "line item veto". Oh wait. It was when Georgie was prez.
It is just insane. That is how you get rid of pork and other things that abuse taxpayers. Omnibus bills are the biggest con of all but of course the corrupt want them!
The only thing these Omnibus bills fund is the deep state including their lobbyist friends and the companies they represent. Why doesn't Congress stop it? Because those same companies fund the politicians. Example: Company X charges $10,000 for a toilet seat and $1000 comes back as political "donations".
The bills are huge to make them unreadable and both parties sign Continuing Resolutions at the last minute to kick the debt load further down the road.
I hope Trump cuts the size and scope of the federal government by 50% in year 1 and an additional 10% in each of the following 3 years.
AI is staying main stream. Get it plugged in nice and tight to the every day activity. Success for them.
For us? Well maybe grok will be different. But I doubt it. AI will be a loss on society. The cult will ally with the AI and forever confuse the shit out of the normies.
Let's see what Grok does to society. I am not very optimistic.
I don’t understand why it is not every citizens vote for each bills
Especially even though the senate and representatives won, it is not even 90% , most just won a little more than half…
Using a tool could prevent people from thinking they need to solve the problem, now that there is a tool to combat it. Ultimately relying more on AI and trusting it.
Congress should refuse to pass any bills they cannot fully read and comprehend with ample time. Those huge things are obviously drenched in corruption. We don't need thousands of pages of new laws.
I'm just going to say: Don't blindly trust it
Someone's still going to have to comb through these every single time.
I'm really against the need for AI to read long bills. If they're that long they shouldn't be voted on at all. If the average person can't read them in full in an hour or so it shouldn't be even brought up for debate.
I could see this opening the door to massive bills that AI reads and summarizes into a few hours of reading.. but it skips key pieces (either programmed after elon dies, programmed without his knowledge to skip), and everyone votes on the bill that has a clause 'everyone will willfully be enslaved when this is passed'
These bills should be limited to 1500 words. The length of an upper level essay amd no legalese should be allowed.
I completely agree. No more omnibus bills where the entire kitchen sink is thrown in. No more Continuing Resolutions either.
All of us have to figure out how to pay our bills on time. All of us have to budget and save accordingly. Our reps are supposed to represent us. Time to act as we do.
Bills should be itemized with simple up down votes.
I know I am barking at the wind. But just wanted to say it.
Typical 4th grade reading level is another great reason for what SOGWAP recommends.
True indeed.
If I had the money, I would send 535 quills and ink pots to Congress and then to our state houses as well. Bills should be written with a quill so the temptation of producing verbal diarrhea via word processing is discouraged. It was good enough for our founding fathers. Ergo, it is good enough for our representatives today.
While your at it fren…make congress return to their States via Horse and buggy. Would love to see Pelosi after a trip like that😂😂😂😂
Be nice to see her take a trip through the Donner Pass this weekend.
Agree.. but do the younger members know cursive?
When the internet goes down, they will have time to learn!
Definitely NOT! No-one even attempted to teach my grandkids cursive - that was too big of a mystery to be decoded.
u/#trumpnope
Also, their pay should come from their state not a federal paymaster. They should have whatever their state decides to give them like every other state employee. Then they won't be able to vote.their own pay raises.
If any bill is more complicated to read than the Constitution then it should be thrown out immediately.
If it is at least most Americans can read it and say hell no.
1 issue, 1 bill
I'm all for this. Do any of us, at this point, blindly trust? If the AI points out something we can read it ourselves.
Right now I judge by the bill's title. If it says one thing, it means the opposite.
That's the problem. We should be able to blindly trust AI, because it's logic based. However, as we've seen the programmers of AI are more than happy to program bias in, we can't trust AI at all. It's a real shame. I use AI, and it gives me code well enough. I test it. But i don't trust it for other things, and have to double check to see if it's lying to me.
Trust because it is logic based? OMG, no, that is how you get a dystopian future. Logic is great but it is also inhuman if it is used exclusively for all decision making. Logically many activities people enjoy should be eliminated. Logically many people should be eliminated.
I see your point, anon, but i wasn't really aiming for that, but more of pure logic away from human programmers injecting their twisted logic like a man can be a woman, etc.
Ah. I see what you are saying now.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Nobody should blindly trust anybody or anything. You have a brain for a reason.
As for coding. Only a human can write elegant code.
:) yeah i agree with you, but for coding it sure helps cut down a lot of time in places.. i generally get the code and make it nicer
Kind of like the news. Whatever "they" say, the opposite is much closer to the truth!
I.e. Inflation Reduction Act. 😂😂😂
That's just a different degree of bad, though. You should be able to judge bills by the content, and deciding to judge based on title is just another form of blind trust.
Good points. I cannot believe that this utter bullshit of voting on two questions at once is allowed, let alone hundreds of points and questions at once. It's outrageous and should not be tolerated.
AI might be somewhat helpful here and I'm glad Elon is at least attempting to do some good here; but you're right, these programs cannot be trusted. They DO make shit up because they don't know the difference between fact and fiction. If nothing else, no one should ever, ever use it to get medical information. Again: It Makes Shit Up.
It's going to be the Battle of the Bots.
One side's AI will draft massive bills.
The other side's AI will counter argue the bill.
The amount will be so overwhelming that we "humans" can't keep up.
It will be Bots vs Bots.
And then, at some point all hell is going to break loose and an AI code will deem it necessary to remove the opposition and Terminator is here.
And... what if the AI is able to insert stuff to benefit someone, or to benefit itself?
Grok, please read this 67000 page bill and compare to the Constitution. Then show those laws which are pursuant to the constitution.
Grok: your question is processed. The result is there are no laws in this bill that conform to the constitution.
That's all we need.
I can’t do that Dave.
Say what you want about MTG but one of the things she did do after Piglosi kicked her off committees was go around hearings insisting that bills were read out in full for the record before votes.
Let's just lock up all of the globalists and go back to living the way we did before this internet/AI foolishness. It's really caused nothing but trouble.
Solved the wrong problem, how bout smaller bills?
Cool. Do the existing lncome Tax next.
"With this one simple act, Grok will do more for America than Congress does..."
We should mandate CBDC for governments to use so all their money is accounted for. If it's so good and necessary then they should lead.
New law: Govt. can only spend tax money in digital form. And, all citizens have access to a free, open source tax money tracking app that we can have on our phones, and computers to track tax spending in real-time, and with complete details on all expenditures- down to pennies spent per second; by whom; to whom, GPS location of spending, etc.
For those that do not know.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/grok
: to understand profoundly and intuitively
Did you know?
Grok may be the only English word that derives from Martian. Yes, we do mean the language of the planet Mars. No, we're not getting spacey; we've just ventured into the realm of science fiction. Grok was introduced in Robert A. Heinlein's 1961 science fiction novel Stranger in a Strange Land. The book's main character, Valentine Michael Smith, is a Martian-raised human who comes to Earth as an adult, bringing with him words from his native tongue and a unique perspective on the strange ways of earthlings. Grok was quickly adopted by the youth culture of America and has since peppered the vernacular of those who grok it.
Direct Links: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1763433242047189232
https://nitter.poast.org/elonmusk/status/1763433242047189232
That sounds cool. I will be even more impressed if we can also get Grok to make good jokes out of the stuff it reads in those bills too.
"Google AI tries to rewrite history while Grok helps protect the future."
Let’s hope it helps
Maybe Elon can also help the legal community not bury Brady exculpatory documents in 8 terabytes of evidentiary data next, by making it rise to a separate dataset??
We'll have to pass it so we can read it ,Drunk CUNT,hope she's the next fly.
It should be illegal to make bills over 100 pages.
It actually is. Our Founding Fathers set up the legislative Branch to create bills that were specific to one purpose and not convoluted or confusing. What they are doing today is unconstitutional, and goes against the principles upon which our Republic was established.
They are also not supposed to pass any laws that require more than 10 years to pay back.
“The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government...” ~ U. S. Constitution, United States Constitution, Article IV, Section 4
“In short, it is the greatest Absurdity to suppose it in the Power of one or any Number of Men, at the entering into Society, to renounce their essential natural Rights or the Means of preserving those Rights, when the grand End of civil Government, from the very Nature of its Institution, is for the Support, Protection and Defense of those very Rights: The principal of which, as is before observed, are Life, Liberty, and Property.” ~ Samuel Adams (1722-1803), was known as the "Father of the American Revolution."
“The Legislative has no Right to absolute arbitrary Power over the Lives and Fortunes of the People: Nor can Mortals assume a Prerogative not only too high for Men but for Angels, and therefore reserv’d for the Exercise of the Deity alone.” ~ Samuel Adams (1722-1803), was known as the "Father of the American Revolution."
“As long as the law may be diverted from its true purpose -- that it may violate property instead of protecting it -- then everyone will want to participate in making the law, either to protect himself against plunder or to use it for plunder. Political questions will always be prejudicial, dominant, and all-absorbing. There will be fighting to gain access to the legislature as well as fighting within it.” ~ Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850) [Claude Frederic Bastiat] French economist, statesman, and author. He did most of his writing during the years just before -- and immediately following -- the French Revolution of February 1848
Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place. ~ Frederic Bastiat
“Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence.” ~ Justice Tom C. Clark (1899-1977) US Attorney General, 1945-1949, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, 1949-1967
Freedom is not a gift bestowed upon us by other men, but a right that belongs to us by the laws of God and nature. ~ Benjamin Franklin
“No legislative act contrary to the Constitution can be valid. To deny this would be to affirm that the deputy (agent) is greater than his principal; that the servant is above the master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people; that men, acting by virtue of powers may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid. It is not to be supposed that the Constitution could intend to enable the representatives of the people to substitute their will to that of their constituents. A Constitution is, in fact, and must be regarded by judges as fundamental law. If there should happen to be a irreconcilable variance between the two, the Constitution is to be preferred to the statute.” ~ Alexander Hamilton (1757-1804) American statesman, Secretary of the Treasury
AI is a catastrophic disaster to humanity, just like fake news and TV. It will dumb down the population and make them unable to do independent research, as they just consult their AI "expert" that is programmed to twist facts in favor of a narrative that is pushed onto the people.
An similar argument can be made for the internet. We are so heavily dependent on search engines and electronic databases. If the internet goes down, we lose everything. Can't do research, and can't communicate. Nobody knows how to use a library.
The library of Alexandria has entered the chat...
Or, maybe it will trigger people to start researching by opening their eyes. Kinda like the Q movement did, ya know?
Grok is going to find some shit on page 4,240, that Larry Fink get's to have sex with all brides, on the night of their wedding.
It also should parse out unconstitutional portions and then publicize those points across all social media. As well as name the names of those proposing those ideas. Dirty commies need to be exposed.
What matters more is someone with Elon's megaphone and influence posting the contents of Congressional Bills which we've been conditioned to ignore.
That is good thinking.
I don't even remember what year long ago I started bitching about congress not having "line item veto". Oh wait. It was when Georgie was prez. It is just insane. That is how you get rid of pork and other things that abuse taxpayers. Omnibus bills are the biggest con of all but of course the corrupt want them!
The only thing these Omnibus bills fund is the deep state including their lobbyist friends and the companies they represent. Why doesn't Congress stop it? Because those same companies fund the politicians. Example: Company X charges $10,000 for a toilet seat and $1000 comes back as political "donations".
The bills are huge to make them unreadable and both parties sign Continuing Resolutions at the last minute to kick the debt load further down the road.
I hope Trump cuts the size and scope of the federal government by 50% in year 1 and an additional 10% in each of the following 3 years.
First time I've heard of Grok, but I'm thinking this may be the best application of AI yet!
This is great, as long as things aren't left out!
Finally something AI is useful for.
AI is staying main stream. Get it plugged in nice and tight to the every day activity. Success for them.
For us? Well maybe grok will be different. But I doubt it. AI will be a loss on society. The cult will ally with the AI and forever confuse the shit out of the normies.
Let's see what Grok does to society. I am not very optimistic.
Interesting and listenable Knowledge Based episode on Darpa, AI and stuff...
Knowledge Based Ep. 62: DARPA, A.I., & "Combatting Misinformation"
Note, he engages on some discussion about positive uses of AI, in addition to looking at origins, DARPA, the WEFers.
AI is a tool.
I don’t understand why it is not every citizens vote for each bills Especially even though the senate and representatives won, it is not even 90% , most just won a little more than half…
Using tools to combat a problem, instead of just solving it.
Can you just solve it? What are you waiting for? It should be easy.
In the meantime, fighting back and exposing the lies.
What a gay comment. Stop being gay.
Using the tool may force the solution when we all see what they've been slipping in there unbeknownst.
Using a tool could prevent people from thinking they need to solve the problem, now that there is a tool to combat it. Ultimately relying more on AI and trusting it.
On purpose.
As my dad used to say, any job is easy if you have the right tools!
That I can get behind.
Congress should refuse to pass any bills they cannot fully read and comprehend with ample time. Those huge things are obviously drenched in corruption. We don't need thousands of pages of new laws.
Corrupt Uniparty