I posted here last November about bloodwork I had done that showed elevated Thyroid Stimulating Hormone, indicating hypothyroidism. Of course the medical professional (RN) I was seeing at the time wanted to put me on Levothyroxine. I resisted, started taking a kelp supplement thanks to the recommendation of the good people on this board, and this year my TSH is well within the normal range. However, unfortunately, now my cholesterol numbers are high, particularly triglycerides, so if anyone has ideas how to get that under control I would appreciate the help. In any case, thanks Great Awakening! Edit to add: The doctor wants me to try diet and exercise for 3 months and then retest cholesterol. So no prescriptions for now. Again, you people are wonderful!
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Don't worry about the cholesterol
I came prepared with two paragraphs to say this, but this is pretty succinct.
I will just add to OP - if you are worried about cholesterol there are tons of great medical professionals on YouTube who will explain it to you clearly how much of a scam this is
Yes...your brain needs fat! Go low carb!
I think there was a post in the last few months about Lysine and vitamin C and clogged arteries. I think that also helped bring down cholesterol as that means your body is repairing itself when cholesterol is high.
The post you are referring to is linked below fren🐸
https://greatawakening.win/p/17t1yJNoJV/my-personal-story-on-how-i-100-c/
I'm trying this now!
Me too. Noticeable health results within a week. Definitely less shortness of breath and higher energy.
Johntitor7 is a legend. Big thank you to that anon.
^correct
Male here. We have been supplementing iodine and cofactors (likely what the kelp is providing you). For triglycerides I’ve been taking berberine. About to switch to inositol (DCI) to help control blood sugar. My brother has had great success with it, shedding pounds, albeit with exercise.
Lugols brand iodine is what you need. Add a few drops to your coffee every morning and watch as your fat melts off
That’s what we have.
what %?
2%
Just ordered a 2pk
Check out potassium ------ weight, diabetes ----- 98% of people don't get enough thanks to junk food
https://communities.win/c/Potassium
Since I've had my thyroid removed, would iodine or a combination of herbs help? I am not concerned about cholesterol as my numbers are decent.
Do not take statins. It is a fallacy re. cholesterol levels. The brain needs cholesterol. Statins can cause muscle weakness among other side effects.
☝️☝️☝️☝️ truth. Cholesterol horseshit is a racket.
Want oldtimers? Keep eating that margarine bullshit...Cuntry Crock
Speaking of margarine… My cousin was recently in a world renowned cardiac hospital in Cleveland. She had just had a Watchman installed, has a history of a cardiac valve replacement. Guess what they gave her. The first day she got butter, after that whipped margarine or something resembling margarine! Guess they don’t follow the science!
I haven't had any sort of margarine since the 1990s Began the low carb lifestyle in `99 and learned a lot about cholesterol. All my blood work is good, high-ish LDLs (They keep changing the low number) Ratio is excellent.
Put a lump of butter and similarly sized lump of margarine outside. Watch what happens. Margarine will still be there weeks later...The innate wisdom of creatures great and small know it's poison...why don't people?
Yep, and why does a world renowned heart center serve it and Diet Coke. Diet anything promotes illness including obesity and diabetes. They want you sick. There is no incentive to cure.
My doc told me at my last check up that it has been proven that taking a larger dose of a good fish oil supplement is as effective as their liver damaging statins at controlling cholesterol.
I take 4800 mg per day now. I don't know that the brand is that great. It is NatureMade, because that was what I had on hand.
I have also been taking Nascent Iodine. It is proven that since they took the iodine out of bread about 80 to 90 percent of Americans are iodine deficient.
Yeah - I've also heard statins are now being linked very strongly with alzheimer's. Some medical people are now starting to assert maybe cholesterol isn't a problem after all. For heart trouble though, I strongly recommend Hawthorne and motherwort for heart issues more related to anxiety.
Our doctor recommended Costco brand fish oil. Reason: it's microdistilled.
Ketogenic diet will take care of that. No sugar, no carbs, very few vegetables, if any. My triglycerides are 34 last two blood tests. My tsh is heading to normal but takes a while.
Which kelp supplement worked for you?
What I'm taking is Nature's Way Whole Thallus kelp, it's 600 mg per serving (1 capsule) which contains 270 mcg iodine and 35 mg sodium. I take it once a day. I got it off Amazon.
Thx!
ITS AMINO ACIDS. First, LDL is not a marker for heart disease. Please know cholesterol is good and you need more than current "normal" levels. Its a scam. What is the fattiest organ in your body? Where is one quarter of all your cholesterol located? That's right, YOUR BRAIN. Statins = dementia. Cholesterol normally increases in menopause, in case that applies. Also, not that many years ago, 300 was an acceptable level. You need Lysine and arginine. These amino also reduce anxiety and cortisol levels too. "Bad" cholesterol is an amino acid deficiency.
But if you must, look into SYTRINOL, a natural supplement for cholesterol and triglycerides.
Having too low of cholesterol to be within recommended range is worse by far than having too high cholesterol. I saw something posted here about it.
A really good resource is Dr Berg on YouTube
Dr. Ken Berry is a great wealth of information. He's also on YT. His main direction to help one's body is a carnivore diet. Get meat with high fat content and munch on as much as you can tolerate...morning, noon and night. Your body will begin to heal.
I think Berg like keto ---- same ballpark.
My (super-based) Dr. told me high cholesterol is ok for some and the higher fat in your brain even lowers your chances of neurological disorders like Parkinson’s & dementia. I’d go to a based, functional medicine Dr & ask if your high cholesterol is ok not to treat.
Cholesterol is not an issue.
My parents had allegedly high cholesterol for decades and were put on statins. Which caused my dad to get bad Alzheimer’s and died.
The article below is excellent but will take those who’ve been brainwashed by big pharma all their lives a bit to digest.
Apologies for the formatting. It disappeared when I pasted. Side effects of statins (if no presenting problem why take?) https://www.verywellhealth.com/side-effects-of-statins-8633448 This following research shows “high cholesterol” is a marker for better immune system: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0090122997943828 This following research shows that Cholesterol is a required component in Myelin formation https://www.researchgate.net/publication/49857008_Cholesterol_A_Novel_Regulatory_Role_in_M yelin_Formation This research shows that alzheimers disease IS disruption of myelin formation: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7069444/ Therefore, lowering cholesterol would be expected to increase Alzheimer risk. This is observed: as Statins use has increased, also Alzheimer incidence has increased. The following research review shows that “high cholesterol” is not a marker for early death, and in many cases those with so-called “high levels” live LONGER. https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/6/6/e010401.full Here is an article talking about research where there is no/little positive outcome in lowering cholesterol intake (it's required for brain health, the brain consumes 25% of cholesterol and is “made of” cholesterol) Most of your cholesterol is MADE BY YOU in the liver. It is VITAL for the production of vitamin D, which is itself a critical nutrient for health. Statins can cripple your ability to self-produce vitamin D (in the sun). Dietary changes are positive due to trigliceride lowering not cholesterol. https://www.peoplespharmacy.com/articles/do-statins-save-lives-doctors-dont-agree The following is an review of current literature “LDL-C does not cause cardiovascular disease” https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17512433.2018.1519391 The following research shows that it is not cholesterol per-se that is bad, but the RATIO of cholesterol to Triglycerides in the blood. They do not check this ratio, they only check cholesterol levels against an arbitrary standard. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mitra-Darbandi/publication/351048982_TriglycerideHigh- Density_Lipoprotein_Cholesterol_Ratio_A_Clue_to_Metabolic_Syndrome_Insulin_Resistance_and _Severe_Atherosclerosis/links/60811e29881fa114b41b8a5b/Triglyceride-High-Density- Lipoprotein-Cholesterol-Ratio-A-Clue-to-Metabolic-Syndrome-Insulin-Resistance-and-Severe- Atherosclerosis.pdf Commentary: Statins are a money making drug, they do lower cholesterol. However cholesterol is a vital nutrient for the brain and required in hormone production (testosterone/vitD). Most of it is produced by the body, what you eat has little effect (but does on triglycerides) the body does not produce toxins. There are no one-size fits all levels you should have. Everyone is different. As use of statins has increased so has the known side effects of low cholesterol (altzheimers/dementia).
So the key was low iodine...
Yes iodine helps with HYPOthyroidism
IIRC Potassium iodide helps with HYPERthyroidism
I've always been Hypo, but no real "symptoms" that I'm aware of -- except troubles losing weight. I'm on a low-ish dose of Lyvothyroxine and had my gland removed 12 years ago. I'd love to find a natural way to keep my "numbers" in line. It's the only medication I take. I refuse statins.
https://communities.win/c/Potassium
Sure looks like it. I was under the assumption that all salt was iodized, but when I checked what I was using it didn't have iodine. So I switched that out, not that I use a lot of salt anyway. Someone on the board said that elements like bromine (in bread) and fluorine (in water) can displace iodine in your system. Fortunately I have well water so no fluoridation, and I switched to a non-fluoridated toothpaste (Tom's of Maine, bonus: cruelty-free) and I don't eat a lot of bread anyway. So I think I'm good on that front.
Easy to look up what foods are high iodine, my go to is Smoked salmon.
Iodine added to salt sublimates into the air very quickly —so even iodized salt is insufficient soon after it’s opened…
Good to know. I plan to keep taking the kelp (iodine) supplement anyway.
My research showed bromine and fluorine actually locked onto the thyroid receptors faster than the iodine, so even if consuming iodized salt, it’s not getting picked up by the thyroid. Food is one of the least understood DS tactics to destroy us.
Try berberine.... https://www.healthydirections.com/articles/blood-sugar/what-is-berberine-research-and-benefits This will get you going. There are many articles out there on it.
Hi, first, great job managing your health. I am wondering if you've got your vit d levels checked recently? If your vit d levels are low (ideally they would be close to 100 for optimal health, thought the med industry says 30 is ok, and natural med docs recommend around 50), I would suggest bumping them up. This alone can help to decrease your cholesterol levels. You have to take your D3 with the correct ratio of vit k2, otherwise the d3 will pull calcium into your bloodstream instead of into your bones. Try researching high dose vit d3 for more info on cholesterol management. I suggest taking at a minimum 2,000 iu d3, and a tablet of vitk2. Personally, I take 20,000 iu vit d3 with 5,000mcg of vit k2 daily (been on this dose for about three weeks now, and all sorts of things, such as joint pain and inflammation, are healing in my body, along with weight loss and muscle gain). Another suggestion is to mind the fats and oils you eat; that is, eat healthy fats, such as beef tallow, grass-fed butter, and real olive oil (glass bottled, pure olive oil--most are contaminated intentionally with other oils). Don't eat deep fried foods. Increase your B vitamins, especially B3 (niacin). Be sure to take good probiotics and digestive enzymes with your meals. Finally, a nicotine patch regimen (get the 21mg patch and cut it into quarters, use one quarter daily) will help you to detox any toxins you're exposed to, and you'll lose weight from this as well.
Thanks! Please tell me more about the D3/K2 ratio. My Vitamin D tested at 61 this year, it was 69 last year. I take 50,000 IU D3 once a week, and then I get 800 IU D3 with a calcium supplement I take. I take 100 mcg K2 daily. I have osteopenia so I am concerned about getting calcium to my bones. I also drink milk so get about 500 mg per day and my calcium supplement is 1000 mg.
Remember that Big Pharma lowered acceptable cholesterol level guidance on purpose to get us sick! The brain is made up of mostly 70+ cholesterol! That is why we are seeing a high level of dementia! Eat up on soluble fats, don't let them trick you!
Get yourself a good B complex.
Please tell me more! I'm on Levothyroxine too. The stuff makes my knees hurt.
Without it, my TSH is not too far out of range at 4.90.
What I'm taking is Nature's Way Whole Thallus kelp, it's 600 mg per serving (1 capsule) which contains 270 mcg iodine and 35 mg sodium. I take it once a day. I got it off Amazon.
I've recommended many to carnivore and ketovore diets and some have ultimately dropped their meds altogether after a month or 2 of weaning.
Stop all pasta, sugar, bread, carbs best as possible to start. Eat meat and seafood. If u must, snack on meat products, beef jerky, pork rinds, etc. Some carnivores even do dairy and occasional veggies.
Once u commit you will find because your eating correct and real food, you will be satiated more, and you won't even need to snack. It's crazy how it works. Every single person I've ever seen on carnie eventually loses weight too, many significant actually.
Go read all of the social media comments from real people on carnie. People dropping big pharma drugs, losing weight, disappearing aches n pains, no more digestion issues, skin issues, etc. Try it for a 30 days and see if you don't think it's worth it.
Levo is basically just trying to replace your thyroid when most people just want it to start working again. Definitely supplement with boosters of your choosing when weaning off levo. Red light therapy also helps some ppl.
I wouldn't put too much worry into " the numbers " unless you truly trust your lab and doctor. Many don't do 5 panel testing and do not even know how to interpret them. They just do what the algo tells them, and who do you think designed that software ?
They often use numbers as fear porn to get victims to take their drugs. Just be aware of that. I'd go by how you feel, the variables in play slightly before and during that time. Be your own doctor. No one cares about you more than you. Use baby steps the whole way and research it all first till you're confident.
Good luck.
Thank you for your reply. Very informative.
Good info, thanks!
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK279600/ Article on effect of levothyroxine on subclinical hypothyroidism.
One other question if you don't mind :
If I've been living on a liquid diet and the liquid contains no vitamins, should I go buy a multivitamin supplement?
The reason why I ask is because I've been feeling extremely lethargic while being on the liquid diet.
I'm sorry, I have no medical background whatsoever to advise you on your diet. However, I don't have my peperwork with me right now but I could swear TSH 4.9 was just at the high end of the normal range. Were you having low thyroid symptoms (weight gain, fatigue, sensitivity to cold, thinning hair, etc.) before you went on the Levothyroxine?
I've been keeping a record of when I start and stop Levothyroxine. My last stretch was July 25 through August 13, yesterday. Today I skipped the dose so it would be considered a stop day. It's mainly fatigue that I suspect Levothyroxine is causing me. I simply do not trust the drug. I also experience an increase in joint pain while taking Levothyroxine. They first started me on Levothyroxine on July 25, 2003. I have NEVER felt any benefits of the drug. People are supposed to lose massive amounts of weight and feel wonderful; that was never the case for me. The only thing that ever changes while taking the drug is a number on a lab report; that's it.
My TSH was at 5.4 last November. I found a NIH (I know) article that concluded there was really no benefit to treating subclinical hypothyroidism. I had no symptoms as far as I could tell. I'll see if I can find the article and link it for you.
Get your doctor to switch you to a natural desiccated thyroid like NP or Armour.
stopthethyroidmadness.com and the book of the same name. A hypothroid patient discusses what worked for her. Suggest looking for a doc who will give both T4 and T3.
https://www.wilsonssyndrome.com/ Also the book "Wilson's Temperature Syndrome: A Reversible Low Temperature Problem"
Dr Wilson protocol includes T4 and T3, but most important to my way of thinking is that he doesn't think you are cured if the tests change but only if your symptoms improve.
One symptom of low thryoid is low body temp, another is high cholesterol. Fix the thyroid, and then still don't worry about cholesterol.
There is no problem with high cholesterol. You WANT high cholesterol - that is a nutrient for your brain. They are 100% wrong about cholesterol, of course, what would you expect. The medical people are morons. For complete details outlining the entire fraud, read Dr. Catherine Shanahan's new book "Dark Calories". Thumbs up!
What about triglycerides?
Carnivore 30 days. See how great you'll feel.
Please please watch these videos I’m linking about cholesterol
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C80VI7NyX4W/?igsh=OTMzemNmNzY2Z3V6
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-Qjzg0OJ_E/?igsh=MXVtbDh1N3o3NG9uNg%3D%3D
If docs get your cholesterol too low, guess what? You get depressed and they can put you on psych meds. It's a vicious cycle. You need cholesterol. It's a hormone that help build and maintain cell walls. You need it to produce hormones and Vitamin D. What vitamin are many in the US lacking? Oh yeah, Vitamin D
Search YouTube or Rumble Dr Anthony Chaffee cholesterol. There are other doctors talking about this also. I like Chafee’s video because he shares the history when high cholesterol was the norm and when pharma started pushing statins. You need high cholesterol for the brain. Also Alzheimer’s and dementia wasn’t a big thing until the statins were pushed.
Ty for the info frens! Ive also heard high cholesterol is not damaging your body like they want you to believe. Your body needs it for the brain. Very good info here.
Good job! What is the kelp supplement? My better half complained to Dr. for prescribing statins for Triglycerides and got switched to Gemfibrozil.
What I'm taking is Nature's Way Whole Thallus kelp, it's 600 mg per serving (1 capsule) which contains 270 mcg iodine and 35 mg sodium. I take it once a day. I got it off Amazon.
Flaxseed oil is a good supplement for cholesterol if you don’t want to take fish oil. I have thyroid issues also and the carnivore diet has been the best for me (when I stick with it which I struggle with). I do take a natural desiccated thyroid from a compounding pharmacy also.
Take bergamot. 2 capsules a day. It works better than statins. I dropped my cholesterol 100 points in 3 weeks. I also ate salads, chicken, and fish. Had red meat once a week. No extra exercising.
https://greatawakening.win/p/17tKeEGmZN/the-clinical-impact-of-vitamin-c/
Re: cholesterol
Try intermittent fasting. I try to do 19/5. I end up going past some days. But overall I’m eating a lot less.
I do 16/8--5 p.m. to 9 a.m. It eliminated my prime snacking time which was in the evening.
Congratulations! Good work.
Thanks!
https://www.youtube.com/@PrevMedHealth/videos
I'm on levothroxine sadly.
I was diagnosed in the military when going through bouts of depression they did tests and found my levels were off, new to me.
Synthroid seems to affect my dental health.
I plan to use iodine supplements.
Find a doctor to prescribe natural desiccated thyroid like NP or Armour. Synthroid is slow death
https://greatawakening.win/p/17txRCAEyc/people-with-high-cholesterol-lev/c/
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but do you take any vitamins? Particularly multi vitamin? My thyroid levels were off but I have no symptoms of hypo or hyperthyroidism. I found this article..
THYROID FUNCTION TESTS Biotin supplement use is common and can lead to the false measurement of thyroid hormone in commonly used assays
https://www.thyroid.org/patient-thyroid-information/ct-for-patients/december-2018/vol-11-issue-12-p-3-4/
I was taking prenatal vitamins and it had max biotin in it..
I take calcium, vitamin D, vitamin K and the kelp, all as separate pills. I do wonder though, one of my cats (I'm one of those childless cat ladies JD Vance talks about, lol, except I'm for Trump all the way) anyway, one of my cats takes a transdermal gel for HYPERthyroidism, and I was kind of lackadaisical about washing my hands after I gave it to him, although I wore finger protectors and it comes out of a pen so getting it on my finger was highly unlikely. But after last November, when I had the high TSH score, I started being diligent about washing my hands with soap and water after I gave it to him. But I really think it's the kelp (iodine) that helped.
Interesting. My doctor did recommend the kelp pills but I just stopped taking my multi and I'm getting bloodwork in Sept and I'll see how thr levels are again.
Interesting on calcium pills.. I read those were actually worse for your body than getting calcium. I'll have to find that paper.
I take magnesium glycinate (my god this is amazing for sleep as hormones are starting to wake me at night...), vit d, zinc, c and I want to start taking beef organ pills again. I stopped to stay consistent on the separate vitamins..and make sure I wasn't feeling too weird or tired.
So you are a lady... Have you researched Superwoman blend essential oil mix? Absolutely stopped any heart palps from stress and balanced my hormones. I have recommended it to like 15 of my acquaintances and they all love it. They are less irritable... Stressed... Sleeping better. Just in case you need help in that area. 😉
I'm taking the calcium and vitamin D because I have osteopenia and I'm trying to reverse it. Vitamin K is also supposed to help with absorption of those two. That's interesting about the magnesium glycinate--I do have trouble sleeping because of night sweats. I'll research the Superwoman blend too.
Ah yes.. Osteopenia. Just learned about that on a Huberman podcast. Understood! Yes... Very good things on magnesium. Dr. Berg had a video about it.
Clary sage in superwoman is excellent for hormones. I'm over 40 and my doc was impressed with my hormone levels. I use a progesterone oil too (wild yam extract)
I was messed up being on the pill for so long and didn't want to continue... And superwoman has really helped...been on it 3 years. I don't sell oils... Didn't believe in them until a few years ago.. Superwoman saved my sanity and energy. Good luck! Keep me posted if you do try all that.
Please look into nascent iodine (comes in a eyedropper) for thyroid level control, whether you have an overactive or under active thyroid gland. Very cheap, highly effective, and safe!